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Or they want to raise them so they can be killed in a senseless war!!

Posted By: Rose on 2009-03-05
In Reply to: You're totally right-on with that, especially the part - I AGREE

Not that I think it is good to kill fetuses either ... but why don't these people see their lack of logic!

And as far as the stem cells and embryos ... why don't they fight to stop allowing people to fertilize and freeze them to begin with (or more than they will surely use)?!!


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What a horrible senseless tragedy.
How awful for the families involved.  My 2 oldest are away at college, and you worry enough as it is but when something like this happens, OMG!  There just is no understanding how someone could be so evil.  My heart is breaking. 
Senseless tragedy. Feel so sad for
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it just about killed me ;)
actually I just ran out of $. Keep it up - it is a fantastic way to exercise. Be careful not to let the instructor/yoursel push you too hard.
She did NOT raise that boy the first 6 to 7
years of his life. That is a lie.
How much does she need to raise?

Did you raise them on your own

or is there someone else to share the blame?  Kids don't spoil themselves.


I do not think it is appropriate for any man to raise

If the child is that bad, send her to counseling.  Writing a report brings out all of the reasons the child has done the wrong.  Unless she's breaking the law, man-handling is not on the top of my list of punishments!  I disagree with your statements, and I disagree with blank rooms.  I think talking things out and finding out the root of the problem is the answer, not spanking or punishments that require imprisonment.  Obviously, the OP didn't feel the child had done that much wrong or the friend wouldn't have been allowed to spend the night.  That's all I have to say on this issue, which is ridiculous in this day and age of molesters.  Oh, and I was paddled on my bare bottom at age 10....  No, I wasn't too fond of men.  This issue is no different than a wife beater or child molester.....


asking for raise
I would just make contact with the person in charge of raises, and present your case (not from a 'need' perspective, but from a deserve perspective). Just form it as a request and touch on your high points!!
raise
It justs seems like with the cost of everything going up.  Also we get the best with working at home, but they do not pay vacation, benefits or anything else.  Why woudl it kill them to give a raise.
I almost killed my cat with tunafish!

Go figure that one out!  He was a Maine Coon cat...just HUGE with a huge appetite and I ran out of food, so I grabbed a can of tuna until I could get to the store.  That night I woke up to SCREAMING like I have never heard an animal scream before and his whole body was spasming.  Oh it was the most horrible thing I had ever witnessed!  I called an emergency vet clinic who took him in right away.  He had a complete blockage of his urethra and couldn't pee...he was a heartbeat away from blowing his bladder and dying.  They had to catheterize him and the bag was full of bloody urine and he spent 3 days in the hospital.  I was a wreck but he was ultimately fine.  Holy crap did that vet bill nearly cripple me!  ICU for a cat...why oh why do I keep on with these friggin' animals?! 


You never know what will cause something to go wrong with these things.  Never blame yourself...ever.  We are all doing the best we can with what we have.



I once had a dream that my dog got killed - sm
and a week later to the day, she did. And it happened exactly like in my dream.
not the ones who end up being killed or prostitutes - sm
no, they don't always come back, there would be no missing persons if that was the case.
Yes, she most definitely killed her...I have no doubts...
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would rather raise 5 girls than 1 boy..sm

When boys grow up and become men, their *toys* become MUCH more expensive than girls (think boats, cars, motorcycles, ATVs, planes, trains, etc.).


I had such success with my girl that I want more girls *lol*


 


Looking for best place to raise a kid

I like where I live...but after a week from H E double toothpicks last week, I really feel that a bit of distance between myself and any family members would be better.  Long story short, you think your family will be there to help when you need it, but instead all you get is beaten down and end up feeling bad and having to deal with your crises by yourself anyway (it's the ONLY reason I moved back to this area a couple of years ago).


Currently, I live in the deep south and my city has an excellent !!! school system, but I know there are other good school systems out there.  So, here are some of what I would like in addition to a good school system.


Near water and mountains (could be lake or ocean, or state park), easy access to public transportation (in case my car breaks down), a good YMCA or city recreation center.


I've been looking at a borough just north of Philly, a couple of small cities in Virginia, a city north of Denver, some areas in North Carolina.  I would like to avoid the west coast unless it's somewhere in Washington State or Oregon.  I've considered the Reno area, but I've never been there and I don't know what the schools are like.


Any ideas?  Thanks!  


Anyone who never has to raise their voice to get (sm)
I have an 8 year old an almost 11 year old and my husband is gone a lot.  They are basically good children, never get in trouble at school except occasionally for talking, don't really do anything malicious or mean.  But sometimes the bicker incessantly with each other and many times I feel as if I have to tell them repeatedly to do something and finally have to get a mad voice before they listen -then their feelings are hurt because I raised my voice.  Right now my son is crying because I told him he has to help clean the house before he can have friends over this morning (he is almost 11).  On school days they don't want to help because they have been at school all day. On weekends they don't want to help because those are their only days off. I am making them help even though they don't want to, but why the tears? It makes me feel like a mean mom, but I can't do it all myself and don't feel I should have to. 
Did you see the part about how she was going to raise them?
She was bragging that she does not receive welfare, but then they have admitted that she receives food stamps and two of the older children get SSI for disabilities. But, she said her source of income to raise them would be her student loans!
I would raise some caine, she is not - sm
abiding by the rules. I would either (1) give her a warning and inform her that you will revoke car privileges for two weeks if she comes home late again (3x and you are out basically), and if she wants to go anywhere she needs to get herself there and back by the appointed time, or she won't be allowed to go anywhere, or (2) revoke them now since she has already broken the rules 2 x.

If I knew I was going to be late I had to call to let my parents know, they did not care that it was 12:30 a.m. and I was to be home by 1, I was to call no matter what. I think I only had to do that once, roads were icy, and was not about to speed home to be on time. They were fine with it. Considering I was 16/17 when I was a senior my parents were pretty lenient, as long as I told then were I was, who I was with, and be home by the appointed time, 10 on school nights, 12 or 1 on weekends depending on what I was doing, dates were midnight generally, special dances 1 a.m. except for the Prom, got to okay to be out all night for that one. I was close to being late a few times due to haveing too good a time on dates, so makes you wonder what your daughter is up to. Just because she is 18 it is not a magic number of being allowed to do whatever she wants. She is still in school and you are still her parent no matter how "responsible" she seems to be for her age. You cannot be her friend, you are her mother.
If her dogs killed my cats
I would probably just tar and feather her, that seems like a good remedy for me.
Yesterday's headlines killed me.
"Dr. Melfi quits treating Tony Soprano to start treating Paris Hilton!"

Too funny.

She said on The View that "Paris called and needed me so I had to make all my time available for Paris and her family!"

How not to get killed?!?!?! How about leave the idi0t!!!
I am very independent and I don't care if I have to go get a one bedroom apartment so my two small kids and I can have a place to go. I would not live in fear of my life over anything! I would figure it all out once I got a restraining order and filed a divorce! Wow, I could say a lot, but I am going to keep my comments to myself. That is what I would do. You asked for advice, there you have it!
My youngest step son was killed ........ sm
in a motorcycle accident and was almost decapitated. The mortician did a very good job with him, but there was still some evidence of the trauma he suffered. His mother chose to have an open casket because I doubt she could have dealt with it any other way. It was a very hard funeral, and hard for me as I had not seen him in quite some time and it was hard seeing him lying in a casket, but I think, hard as it was, it did help bring closure for me and for his family. I think it is a very personal decision that only the family can make at a time like this.
Kinda like asking if OJ killed Nicole or not NM
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I read about a 6yo that killed his classmate
I know this doesn't pertain to you because some kid killed his father after he saw his father committing violence, but I just thought this was interesting article. It's called Why little kids kill. I just cannot fatham anyone at 6 years old doing that. What happened to young innocense....

If I were you and the family seems non-challant I would definitely talk to a police officer and state your concerns. Especially in today's day and age - nothing surprises me.

http://life.familyeducation.com/early-learning/violence/36442.html


nah -- we killed too many brain cells

snorting the crack OUR parents didn't teach us about!


Geesh -- why always so quick to blame the parents?  This kid is 14 years old and knew better than to do this.  She chose to do it anyway, just like so many others before her time chose to get up knocked up, strung out on drugs, become an alcoholic, etc. 


Yes, the kid screwed up, but that's what kids do.  Didn't you ever have a friend who stole a car in high school or got caught cheating and ended up expelled?  It's not the end of the world, but spreading it all over the media could very well push this kid over the edge and cause her to hurt herself.  She obviously is looking for attention or affection.  This is certainly not going to help her.


I would raise 5 boys to 1 girl!
Girls cost too much.
I did not raise a debate, criticize the OP, or anything
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Love Raise the Red Lantern
So few people enjoy foreign films - and I just love them. I want the Chinese, Indian, Japanese, European, Latin American - all of them. Hardly ever find a dud. I've seen every foreign film at Blockbuster at least once.

Have you watched the Red, White, and Blue triology by the French director? Can't think of his name right now, but all 3 films are simply superb and although each is separate, there is a common thread that he brings together at the end of the third movie.
Her name was Meredith Emerson, and it was just last January that she was killed.
I know the story very well, and even hiked in memory of her a few weeks after she was killed. Her murder caused great grief along the entire 2100+ miles of the trail, and all of us who love the trail know full well what can happen out there.

The trail community is very difficult to explain to people who haven't experienced it. Yes, people have been killed on the Appalachian Trail, probably about a dozen or so in the over 70 years that the trail has been open. Given the thousands who walk all or part of the trail each year, it is statistically safer on the trail than in "civilization". You are correct, however, that hikers are more in danger than the people who pick them up. The most dangerous places on the trail are at the trailheads and near roads where people pretend to help hikers and then do harm. That is why I pick up hikers, because they are more afraid of me than I am of them. Also, there's quite a bit of communication that goes up and down the trail, and we do keep track of people as they travel. It's very likely that when I pick someone up near the trail, I've heard about their trip. In hiker slang, people who help hikers are called trail angels. It's a different situation. It's not 100% safe, but I choose not to cower at home. I hike the A.T. and other trails, usually with friends, sometimes alone. I tell my family, that if harm should come to me, either through accident or evil, they should remember that I go into the woods because I love it, and should I die there, they should remember that I loved it too much to stay away.

The Appalachian Trail is not the lawless, dangerous passageway that so many people think it is. More times than I can count, I've been asked about the dangers of the trail. Usually I just shrug and smile. It's not worth the argument, because I can't change the minds of people who don't know. On the other hand, I don't want to change minds. If I did, there'd be traffic jams on the trail, and it wouldn't be fun anymore.
If the mom was so bad, why did ANS let her raise Daniel for the first 6-7 years of his life?
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Which are easier to raise -- boys or girls?
I was always told boys.  I had 2 girls and uff-dah what a hormonal nightmare.  Now I have a teenage boy and those hormones are at least as bad.  Prolly worse.
let's raise the flag *ROFL*.....lucky you....

It figures! I just found out they're going to raise my
29% next month! (And I always pay on time and far more than the minimum.) Well forget all that! I'm going to take the money out of what's left in my bank account (SAME bank, only savings only earns a measly .03% interest!) pay off the Mastercard, and just close the d@mned thing. I've had it with Wall Street, I've had it with negligent banks, and I've had it with greedy credit card companies. They can all go under for all I care, I'm going to pay cash from now on, and just keep a checking account for the debit/ATM card. The economy, banking system, and stock market never have, and never WILL, work for the 'little guy'. We were fools to fall for all that hooey. Sure hope the IRS doesnt mind the IOU they're gonna get from me this year, cause what goes around, comes around.
Women with restraining orders are killed by their abuser
Don't get a false sense of security. There have been good advances in the past 20 years but it's still a man's world.

Stay in contact with your friends and family and make sure to give a few of them a code word. Something like the sky is blue or I really want chinese food and they will know to call the police if you are in trouble. Do what you need to do to protect yourself. Do not count on the police. I was attacked in my home 2 hours after leaving the courthouse. I even called 911 when I got home because I was scared. They were on their way but he got there faster.
I was young and nieve and had a newborn I was thinking about. I wish someone would have told me not to go home. Please don't be nieve like I was and trust the system and that piece of paper. It's hard to imagine your home isn't safe or that someone is going to be 100x more aggressive then you have ever seen them be.
I would move and change your numbers and make sure if you work outside your home you alert EVERYONE including the receptionist and your boss/manager and security.
If she doesn't care about the fact that her dog killed your 2 cats
I don't understand why you are so afraid of offending her??!!! I don't know how much time has passed, but I would have been rip roaring FURIOUS at her, SIL or not, that she allowed her dog to do that not once but twice. She sounds pretty self-centered and uncaring to me.
UNC Student Killed, now WBC protestors plan to picket
I live in NC and the news of the murdered student body president (out of respect will not list her name here) has upset all of us in this area, of all religions and non-religious as well.  The WBC is a radical group calling themselves "Christians" who plan to protest at UNC during the memorial service for this beloved young woman.  The group is listed as a "hate group" but call themselves Christians and wear shirts and bear signs saying "God hates you" and God hates colleges, etc.  Their website proclaims "thank God another college student is dead."  This is so horrible and unspeakable.  For those who are not Christian, please do not believe for one moment that this represents common Christian viewpoints.  It definitely does not. The vast majority of Christians are horrified at what these people believe and proclaim. 
its better to raise kids in a happy divorced home

No where either. My mother didn't raise any foolish kids. LOL nm
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you got mighty lucky because boric acid is poisonous and could have killed them
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Just read where a 42-year-old woman was mauled and killed by her own 2 pit bulls sm

in FL near Jacksonville. Then the dogs turned on her son  who was also bit in the throat but luckily will survive.  Then the dogs turned on the sherrif's dept before they were both shot and killed. THANK GOD. I hate these dogs. I'm sorry. When my brother was walking home from fishing years ago pits attacked him and he's never been the same. Thankfully he survived.  When you go to the FL news website you see tons of pit bull owners sticking up for this breed and saying how they are great dogs. if they are so great why are they banned in multiple counties across the nation? No other type of dog is banned? Neighbors, cousins all say that she was a very loving owner who even slept with the dogs. No neglect, nothing. There were people saying that they leave their pits alone with their young children, as young as 3 years old! How ignorant can you be?


Tons of FL residents are calling of the extinction of this breed and I think that's a great idea.  You cannot trust a pit bull PERIOD.  There is something in their brains that can TICK at any time - this was quoted by a vet who specializes in dog care.  So tell me, why do people take chances with this kind of dog? I'm so angry right now!!!!!!


Obviously you've never had a family member killed by a drunk driver.
Long ago? Time has nothing to do with it. The man has an alcohol problem and left the scene of a homicide. Sounds like you're ok with that. I'm not. It speaks volumes about his character.
Is it just me or does the fuel surcharge for speeders sound like another way to raise taxes? nm
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I see by your birthdate that you weren't trying to raise a family during the Regan years -sm

We were lucky, my DH never lost his job, but the town we lived in had about a 75% foreclosure rate with vacant houses and most of the businesses closed down.


We ate a lot of Hamburger Helper, mac & cheese, Rice A Roni, and Top Ramen.  My 3 kids got their clothes and shoes at thrift stores, I went without.  DH went without. We would have qualified for food stamps, but the state couldn't afford to have a program.  Oh, and after Regan failed to get the school lunch program dumped completely he wanted ketchup declared a vegetable.   


There was no question of me working - first there were no jobs, and second anything I earned plus some would have gone to daycare.  Doctor and dentist visits were just about nonexistent because we couldn't afford insurance. 


After that hellish 8 years things slowly got better until W, and wow, it's like Deja Vu all over again!  Ain't it great?


I disagree. Women have gotten killed by not moving or changing their phone numbers.
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Young lady killed here in Georgia, Appalachian trail hiker
and she was enjoying going out about 2 years ago, killed on a mountain here by man posing as hiker. She was a young, vibrant lady in her 20s, he was in his 60s. I think I am getting this right when I say he used her police baton she carried for protection, wrestled it away from her and killed her with it. Is not the trail you hike on known for lot of crimes? This murder happened on that same trail where you give rides to strangers. This man was well known to other hikers there as he hung out on the trail lots of times.