Oh, then I am sure you saw the wrong trial
Posted By: Sue on 2007-04-11
In Reply to: yes, i sure did andyou can't tell me he wasn't guilty. nm - LMT
because if you watched from start to finish as I did, I could never have convicted from what I saw. The papers and the trial were so far apart I could not believe it. One case in point - just about the glove- There was a piece of paper, receipt, that showed SOMETHING bought at the store in the accessory department, had no mention of a glove, a scarf, wallet- no numbers to match up and YET, it had his wife as buying a pair of gloves there- that put enough doubt in my mind but I am sure you did not see the same thing or you might have had doubts.
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...and after the trial?
What's your plan for moving upward and onward?
I wonder if you'd allow me to presume on some years of experience by asking you to really examine the core issue here, namely "I still love him".
I'm not saying you don't, but I wonder whether this is actually "partner-for-life" love which absolutely depends on a foundation of mutual respect, which I believe he has thoroughly destroyed.
There seem to be all kinds of feelings that women can have for men that they call "love", but they're not the kind of love that forms the basis for the intimacy on every level that life-partners need.
A woman can have motherly love for a misbehaving partner. A woman can love a false image of a partner. A woman can love what the partner used to be. A woman can love what she believes the partner could be. The list goes on.
When it comes to partner love, all of these others are really counterfeits and/or substitutes, and none of them provide a reason to stay together.
Over the years that I dealt with domestic disputes - and especially those that had a component of substance abuse - I never saw one of them that got better, and they usually deteriorated. That's why I hope you have a plan for moving onward and upward.
No - I did not watch the trial
start to finish, as I had to work. I lived in LA at that time. I think the timing of this was crucial - just after the Rodney King debacle. I think Johnnie Cochran was very charming and had that jury in the palm of his hands. I think the investigation was botched. I'm not an expert on the trial and it's true, I don't know everything about it, but just my opinion. Even if he didn't do it, who in the heck would write this kind of book - it's just distgustingly insensitive to the victim's family, who think he did do it and who were there from start to finish.
WHAT????? Not talking about the trial
some what now 13 years ago?? and so did I watch it. I am talking about what is happening today or what happened yesterday in Las Vegas. ME AND OTHERS CANNOT SEEM TO GET OVER WHAT A JURY DECIDES AND THEIR WORD IS FINAL??? NEVERMIND.
But why not a trial separation?
DH says he'll take me back if I don't like being separated. I didn't ask him that - he volunteered that. A sister got divorced and she's glad she did it. She remarried. I just want to date, not get married or live with a man at this point.
Believe me,. if you stiill love him, go to the trial
what will send him to jail.
Do you never ask yourself 'Does he love me?'
The situation is so deteriorated that it is not anymore in your hand to solve it all alone, you need help.
He blames you for everything that went and is going wrong.
You need to wake up and so does he.
If you want to rescue the son and show and guide him what 'justice' is, testify. Only this can and will make you strong.
I am not sure but I have the feeling that you are afraid what he might do to you when he is released from prison? Get immediatley a restraining order.
OJ book and trial, innocent or guilty?
I saw the message about OJ and the book about whether or not he actually did the crime. What I would like to know from the MTers discussing this, did any of you watch the trial from start to finish? The newspapers, television shows, etc. most all the time fabricated parts leaning towards his part in this crime. I saw it all from start to finish, every single day and after that made my own decision regarding the guilt or innocence, not by what I read in the papers or heard on the news. The most important piece of "evidence" supposedly was the glove issue. The trial showed a receipt from a store from accessories. Never ever did they match a scanned number, price, date bought or whatever with the glove buying, but then again I guess most of you watched all the trial?
Phil Spector murder trial. Anyone
been watching that on Court TV? Don't you think Phil Spector, with his "new hair do", looks like Pee Wee Herman???? LOL.
They have been off for the past 2 days due to one of the defense lawyers having to go to the hospital. Kind of interesting to watch trials on T.V.
Perfume samples/trial sizes
I'd like to be able to buy some trial/samples of various perfumes. I've found a few random ones, even free ones, but I'd like to be able to try some of the expensive brands by just purchasing those small samples or trial sizes. So far I haven't found a very large selection of these websites and the ones I have found only had a few fragrances from which to choose. Anyone know where I can go to buy these for a decent price?
Thanks.
You ead my response wrong, terribly wrong
I am trying to ask what does she think it will help, not being nasty- tell me and I will try this. I would stand on my head and gargle peanut butter if I thought it would help - I wanted to know why a letter? They are thumbing their noses at the courts - commanded to appear- I was there and they werent.
By trial and error. Lots and LOTS of error!!! -nm
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Please don't take this the wrong way
but after reading your note and the way he is "flirting" - sounds like he's thinking below the belt. Unless that's what your're interested in also he could be trouble.
Um, wrong!!!
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what is wrong with you (OP)???
How in the WORLD is playing peek-a-boo with your child ICKY?? Wow, hope you aint a mom..........................
it is very sad, but you are wrong about these
horses being exploited. I have horses. I have been part of the horseracing business and my husband's life was spent riding racehorses. These are very well-taken care of animals, and by nature love to run. They generally work for minutes a day (except on race day) and then are pampered the rest of the time. There are exceptions, but these horses are very much loved by those that work with them. There was absolutely no monetary benefit to keeping Barbaro alive. They could have collected huge amounts of money through their insurance had they put him down right away. They could not breed this horse; Tb's cannot be AI'd. They tried to save this horse because they loved him and he had poured his heart out to run his best. Just yesterday after watching the Sunshine Millions races, i told my husband that they've tried long enough to save him, that it is time to put him down. I agree with that decision.
wrong -- MOST don't end up this way.
Many of these horses go to working ranches, competition of other kinds, like barrel racing, etc. There are also numerous organizations set up by the racing assocation and others to find them homes in the general population. If you really want to know where much of your packing plant horses come from, look at the BLM, wild mustangs. They sell here for $25. yup, even bred mares. So these people that have no heart, buy em and turn them around for a profit at the packing plants. BTW, a feed lot is generally a term for steers in a concentrated lot being fed-up for slaughter, and horses are used there to work the cows.
VERY wrong! What would
you think if you caught your husband in the same situation. It seems to have become an addiction. Stop now cold turkey. Read the 5 love languages book and see if you cannot reconnect with your hubbie or go get some marriage counseling.
Is this right or wrong?
I am a female in my early 40's and I have never been married and do not have children.
With every job I've had, some people feel the need to interrogate me about why I've never been married.
I never bring up the topic myself.
I usually answer, I've never found any one, maybe I will meet someone, etc.
I recently started a new job and have told co-workers when they ask if I've ever been married, I tell them I am divorced.
Now, I barely hear a peep about being single, whether these folks tell me they wish they were single or complain about their kids.
I just think it is rude to ask someone why they have never married. I would never ask someone why they married their spouse.
Is this right or wrong?
It's definitely wrong.
That you're so good in bed that limiting yourself to just one man would be a crime against humanity.
Then ask them, "Which one is YOUR husband, by the way?"
So everyone else was wrong, U only one to get it right? nm
nm
You are so wrong
As a former teacher, I'm appalled at your ignorance. Teachers start at salaries lower than truck drivers. Of course it varies from region to region, but generally it is about $28k to $29k. Some of these positions require a master's degree or a specialist degree, which is above the Bachelor's degree.
As far as the hours teachers work - they are really never off duty. They have papers to grade, meetings to attend, clubs to sponsors, committees to serve on, parents to phone, write, email, and and websites to update daily. Then, there are the workshops and/or college courses they have to attend to keep their credentials current.
Summer vacation? Who teaches summer school? Who works 1 or 2 jobs to supplement the lack of income for the 2 summer months, to keep up the student loan payments, take a college course or a workshop mandated by the school district or the state dept of education?
Then, there is the fact they aren't allowed to be human. If a teacher is seen drinking in public, smoking in public, or smacking their own child's bottom, they are bound to be pilloried by some self-righteous citizen.
You need to shadow a teacher for a week and then coime back and tell me how easy the job is and how well paid they are.
If it were easy, everyone would be doing it and we wouldn't have the teacher shortage we have.
Did I mention the number of teachers who are assaulted and permanently injured by their students every year? I'm waiting for 60 Minutes to do a story about that instead of the extremely rare but so publicized cases of teachers having sex with their students. Anyone else notice that it's the female teachers who get the publicity? I know a lot more male teachers having sex with their students - of both sex - than female teachers.
Nothing wrong with that-
it sounds like my friend who comes over to my house and hangs out with me and cleans my house for me. Sometimes I give her money when she needs it and I can afford it; Also she drives my other car and I pay the registration and insurance on it. She is unable to work and the amount of disability she gets is impossible to live on.
There's something wrong with her, all right! nm
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Nothing wrong at all with it sm
The Clydesdales live at Grants Farm in St. Louis, a wonderful place to take children. The Budweiser story is rich with American history between President Grant and one of the founders of Budweiser's daughters - we took our 12 and 7 year old on a tour of both Grant's Farm and the Budweiser factory. The horses are beautiful a part of American history dating back into the 1800s. I would guess this box is worth far more than the $20 you paid for it.
My 2 cents.
So what's wrong with that?
How about what everybody uses wrong - me and I.
And it is always her and I or my husband and I or my daughter and I, no matter what the context.
Are you going with Mary and I to the show? WRONG!
She gave a nice gift to my husband and I and the kids?
WRONG!
And everybody does it and it drives me crazy. The RULE is so simple, just drop the first person or reverse it in your head, and there's your answer.
Are you going with.....ME?
Are you going with....me and Mary?
You wouldn't say, Are you going with I? Nor, are you going with I and Mary?
Please, people!
Thank you :)
lol
No you were not wrong, and if it were me (sm)
you better believe I'd be touching his stuff, moving it around, whatever would tick him off the most. Childish? Sure is, but so was what he did.
I think you are 100% wrong on this
The stories we are hearing now are so out there. I was born in the 40s and never, ever heard such crap when I was growing up, young teenage, young adult and so forth and I have always stayed up with the news, etc.I was just complaining of the same this morning about what people are doing now, school teachers having sex with 10 year old, people throwing their lives away for ?? I can honestly say these things NEVER happened in the 50s, 60s, 70s like they are happening now. I have lived these years and remember well. I have been aorund the block and so glad I don’t have young children now. Asking or telling them to move would make no difference with the kind she is talking about. A lot of kids killing now just for you saying anything to them. I, myself, would have called the police and got them to intervene. Saying something only sets you up for something worse.
So what's wrong with being gay? - nm
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Yes, I'm wrong - UR right sm
I overheard a conversation at the butcher's about a weight loss product which was totally mispronounced and the conversation was truly disgusting about the person's side effects. My appetite was ruined. I didn't quite get the name. You are right, it is another product which name escapes me right now. I hear so many that I do get confused. I just wanted to check on these disgusting symptoms. Never mind, thanks!
only way to go wrong with B&B is if (sm)
the girl has perfume sensitivies. Achoo.
I must be doing something wrong...sm
The link seems to work fine in my e-mail, but cutting and pasting ya can't click on and get the recipes...Sorry  Cat
Wrong
My 16-year old son decided that he wanted to go and live with his older sister (who is 29) and she went along with it.....no one ever discussed this with me....just told me what THEY were going to do.....I'm thinking OK if that's what you want to do....fine with me.....So, when he was getting ready to leave....I told him to leave my house key....when I told my mom, she said that I was wrong in asking for my house key....she said that is "your child".....what my feeling is....if you don't leave here...you don't need a key to MY HOUSE......and I guess I have burned bridges somewhere because I just told her what I felt.....and also told her that "I am YOUR child...too, but I don't have a key to your house......DID I DO ANYTHING WRONG FOR ASKING FOR MY HOUSE KEY?????
Nothing wrong with it. You can
always re=issure it later if you deem the maturity and responsibility and/or need is there.
wrong
I did not kick him out.....
wrong
Nothing was ever discussed with me....I guess they did not feel the need to....but the point is....I am his MOTHER....and I have say so....but if this is the way they want to POP IT....they go for it....and she can afford for him to live with her and I don't have to pay anything.....she has a BS degree and Master's.....
wrong
I never said that he is not welcome into my home....what I'm trying to say is if he's not living here and he does not need a key....he is always to come home.....but home is not DO DROP IN......
wrong
Thank you sm.....I made this post to get feedback and I thank you for that......
wrong
And by the way....they were born on the same day March 5, 13 years apart.... does that mean BAD LUCK: 
Wrong
I guess a lot of people are misunderstanding my post....I am not UPSET....with my son or my daughter.....there was no arguing, cussing or fussing. My son a VERY, VERY GOOD, child. He makes A's and B's in school.....He participates in sports, basketball and football and plays in the band...percussion.....my daughter is in a position where she can provide more for him than I can.....UPSET because my mom made the comment that I was wrong in telling him to leave my house key....if you are not living here fulltime....I don't see any reason for you to have a KEY to MY HOUSE.....
wrong
I'm not trying to defend myself....I just asked one simple question.....if someone does not live in your house...whether it is daughter, son, mother, father, cousins whatever....I'm not saying that my son is a problem....Please read earlier posts.....now because I posted it seems like everyone is bashing me.....that is why I made another post saying I'm sorry....I respect the responses and everybody opinion....just trying to see what somebody on the outside thinks.....
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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DH is wrong, you are right! (sm)
There’s no better storage than that carton
Fresh eggs can be stored in the refrigerator for as long as five weeks. And yes, that egg carton that they’re packaged with is the best storage container for them. Avoid putting them on the egg holder on the fridge door. Not only would they get rattled whenever the door opens and closes, they also get exposed to temperature drops. They spoil quickly if they do. Just use them before that “Best before” date on the carton.
Eggshells are porous
Still, one of the reasons why you should keep them stored in the carton is because eggshells are porous. This means that the shells allow odors to penetrate the egg. Now you wouldn’t want the eggs to taste or smell like anything but good ol’ egg.
Store eggs in their original carton. The carton protects the eggs from absorbing flavors and odors
of other foods nearby like onions or cabbage.
Store eggs in their original carton. The carton protects the eggs from absorbing flavors and odors
of other foods nearby like onions or cabbage.
I might be wrong but
are not the hounds known for whining and sounding off?
No, you are wrong on this -
A lot of us made more 15 years ago than now. The pay goes down, not up in this profession.
I see nothing wrong with what you did.....
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you are mostly wrong.
Sure, any animal is prone to animal behavior. but SOME are much more so, and unpredictably so. The stats prove it. not to mention, that too often the people that want these kind of animals are irresponsible kinds of people (not all, but SOME), ie, drug users, gangsters, etc. You can learn a lot of things in an animal class or book, some are good, but reality does not bear out all that you say.
don't take this the wrong way, but...
What makes you think that just because they are fighting for our freedom that they are any less stupid than the average Joe 18-year-old? I was an army wife for quite a few years and believe me, 18-year-olds military personel are defninitely not smarter or more mature than any other 18-year-old civilian. And whether or not they lower the legal drinking age to 18 ot keep it at 21, a good majority of 18-year-olds will be drinking anyway, military or civilian. Personally I think the only alcohol should be used for cooking only, not drinking. JMO
Please do not take this the wrong way
I also suffer from horrible perimenopasual and now menopausal symptoms. I understand that posters are trying to help BUT you should check with your physician before taking anything. The suggestions for black cohosh, soy products/estroven, etc are okay for some but not all. I had a pulmonary embolism years ago and cannot take anything. Some of the natural/health care products still contain a certain amount of hormone replacements that can be fatal to some.
Don't get me wrong...
I love my hubs with all my heart. I would never re-marry and I know we would stay close friends and probably be neighbors if possible. He's been married before so I know how nasty divorces can get and hateful people who once loved can be towards each other BUT I can understand what you mean by truely love and cannot imagine your life without them. At the same token I look at cheating as a deliberate lie and never a mistake...yeah, in many aspects of life I am a plain and simple harda$$. There are just some things that are unexcusable in my book and this is one. I feel like morally the decision would be made for me. Despite love and feelings, he put my life in danger (STDs, a freak that goes psycho, etc. - you never know) and I won't put up with it for a second. JMO. I respect yours and would of any friends of ours who made the same.
Anyone ever do you wrong and you got
so angry you can't get over it? I am stewing and no doubt making it much worse on myself, but it is hard to let it go. I went out of my way to be kind to this person on so many occasions only to be treated badly. Any advice?
I don't know whether it is right or wrong
I said what you thought and that might temporarily make you feel better. I don't know if it will change the situation or not or make FIL come to his senses, probably won't.
I think they are just added stressors right now. You don't need that. I think you should detatch, never expect anything from them. If H asks "where is my dad" just say I wrote, called, e-mailed what ever and he hasn't gotten back to me yet then change the subject. You need a support group, I think there is one for families of alcoholics like Alanon??? Whatever it is, I hope you find help even if it isn't from FIL or whatever he is supposed to be.
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