Oh, I beg to disagree. I know plenty of "older"
Posted By: over 30 myself on 2009-02-18
In Reply to: Those under 30 are the gimme now, I want it now generation.... - sm
people who are in bad shape financially. They're getting squeezed out of jobs because young college grads with good technical skills can be hired for much less money. They've got a "want it now" mentality after living it up in the ྌs. They owe money on houses, cars and credit cards. Sweeping generalizations won't work on either age group. Some do, some don't. Age has nothing to do with it.
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"The parents", the "older man". The welfare of child
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I am an "older" person with younger children. We only do what we find sm
interesting to us. However, I am proud to say that I have 10-yo daughter that can sew (and is getting better than me) and can cook. She can do these things because she really loves it! Together this year, we sewed her Halloween costume and she as Rapunzel. Yep we made the hair and everything. We spent time together doing it and she loved it. At Christmas, we baked more batches of fudge, candies, etc than we really needed but again we enjoyed the time together. And admittedly her recipe for choc. covered cherries was much better than mine as she made the white stuff in the middle :) She has more patience than I do.
Now, I can turn around and say my mother, who is in her 60s, cannot sew anything and does not even own a sewing machine and has not in years. BUT, her mother was a fantastic seamstress and made a lot of my clothes when I was young.
It is all in what we enjoy doing. Does not matter the age. If you find a little niche for yourself that you enjoy, then by all means continue bringing pleasure to yourself. If you prefer to pay someone to do these things, more power to you. Everybody has a reason to be here, no matter how small or big that reason may be.
Have a wonderful week everyone!
You are SO RIGHT. But obviously there are plenty
It is a shame. Let's just sit on our butts and blame the system.
I have lost jobs and I have found jobs, when I picked my sorry butt up and moved on.
It is easier though to suck one's thumb, whine, and blame everybody else for your situation.
Plenty of ice and elevation will help a lot!
At least it did when I fell off a ladder in my house last winter and onto my right (pedal) foot onto a hard tile floor. Speedy recovery to you!
I think you're right...but they have plenty....sm
plenty of USA MTs working for them........
Oh, I have plenty of my furkids if any would be
interested. That is all I have pictures of right now but taking them right and left. Ran out of batteries in 2 days and invested in battery charger Saturday and back to the snap, snap, snapping.
Plenty of victims ...
Kids falter in school and education due to it. Adults perform poorly at work and lose jobs because of it.
We have had deaths due to drivers being under the influence of it.
YES, it has victims.
Drink plenty of water...
I try to start my day with a pitcher of ice water on desk, like a 2-liter bottle and try to drink that during my shift, which really helps. Hubby and I went on program with Dr. and took Adipex and B12/B complex and followed the attached diet. We were on 1500 cal/day and he lost 65 and I lost 35. We quit taking the adipex but stayed with the diet. I lost 30 on this same diet several years ago too. It is well rounded. Somewhere I have an 1800 cal if you are interested. You don't count calories, it is already figured out for you. Daily meal plan gives you a break down of what to eat in a day (1 bread, 1 fruit, etc)and then the individual breakdown (breads, meat, etc.) lets you know what these include. (i.e. 1 bread - 1 slice of bread, 1 fruit 1 small apple or 1/2 cup canned fruit). No expense of buying diet products and you can eat regular food with your family. Funny. We used to eat 2 center cut chops a piece and with this we would split 1! There are free foods too so you could pile up a big salad for lunch and save other stuff for dinner. We did not quit drinking sodas, just switched to diet cokes 0 calories as opposed to 140 or so per drink. Good luck.
http://www.gatepharma.com/Adipex-P/Diet_Index.html
I (humbly) have plenty to be thankful for!!
I am a preacher's kid. I got spankings, plenty of them.
It did NOT make me sneaky behind my parent's backs. It made me realize that there were consequences for what I did and I knew exactly what those consequences would be. I, in turn, spanked my children. They were never beaten. They were never abused. They also behaved well in church, in school and social situations. Teachers and others told me how well behaved they were when I WASN'T around. They are now healthy, happy adults with whom I have great relationships. They do not resent having been spanked as children, just as I don't resent it with my parents either. 
What sounds wrong about it. There are plenty
on this board who are exactly the same. I am no different. As I type this he and I have been together most of the day in my work room just being together. No work for either today and we are going out in a short while as I am treating him for his b'day dinner. There is more love here that the law allows.
Already put in long hours and have plenty - sm
of work, so that is not a problem....would love more per line of course...only get .07 and .08 now. DH could play chauffer that is for sure but one activity one daughter does ends in 2 2 weeks (and is free) and won't start up again until October, but would cut out one of their other activities at $120 a month...though will keep them in dance at only $60 a month...don't want them to lose all they do...Between the two of them they do 4 things, only pay for 2 and they will lose 1 of those. They are 8 and 10 so don't want to burden them with this though I do want them to be aware. When I am driving them to their activities I do take my laptop with me and usually work in the car when I have to wait an hour, though not going at all would be a bigger help. He already does the cooking, though I do everything else though I am not what you call a regular house cleaner, once a month or so for everything, and touch-up vacuuming in-between. I suspect if it happens he will sit in the LR all day watching TV, saying he is done with working as he is almost 50 and wanted to retire at 55 as it is and that it is my problem to fix (because of the cc issues). He inferred this last night when he dropped it on me and ran. So it will not be pretty, even w/o the debt it would be tough though less to worry about and more doable. ---I do have a plan of actiion thought out and if I have to beg my dad or his parents for the money to pay the house off I will--I will pay back every penny too, just may take a while. They don't know of our (my) past issues, etc. but will confess all in order to get help, don't want to but more than willing to do it if it means keeping this roof over my head.
Link to NY Times article - there are plenty of others
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/03/us/03texas.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
I have a fairly new HP printer and I have plenty of paper in it but it always think it is out.
I adjust the paper but it keeps saying this. Seems to be an ongoing problems. I can hear it drop on to the paper but it doesnt pull it.
it's different, but I use an old hair claw. Holds plenty. NM
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False. I'm sure there are plenty of skinny dim bulbs living in poverty
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Rainy, cool, dark. Home working with plenty of work. Hubby and kids are sm
picking up toys, taking them to Goodwill. LOVE days like this.
Disagree with you on this
Happened to my father and it falls under the category of elderly abuse, same as if you beat old folks up. My father had no dementia but after his spouse passing, the younger married women moved in on him. He had lots of money. A person likes attention from someone they think finds them attractive. He had plenty of friends and associates, did not spend lonely times at home, nothing like that- just thought the wonen were interested in him sexually. He gave away over $100,000.00 to 1 woman I found out after he was killed in accident - get this, going to see her!
I disagree!!!!
Frenchie willingly posed completely topless for money for a website that reportedly was also using underage girls and apparently did not have a good reputation. Antonella posed with her friends and I believe a boyfriend and they betrayed her and put her pictures on the internet behind her back. They were really not even *nude* photos. I'm not saying they're not bad but then again in today's world is there anything left that would be really shocking? I definitely disagree that this was even similar to Frenchie's situation and her playing the race card is oh so typical and sickening to me. Some things never change. The only thing Antonella is guilty of is being a lousy singer.
I disagree and here's why - sm
While I may disagree with the idea of abortion, I am also completely against someone taking away a choice that is MINE, whatever the reason may be.
I don't understand why so many people don't try to look at the bigger picture. There are many reasons why a woman might choose abortion, not just as a form of birth control.
Can you honestly say if you knew a woman or girl was raped or became pregnant by incestuous means that you would prefer to traumatize her further by forcing her to carry a baby to term? I know the baby is an innocent that didn't ask for what happens. I struggle with that thought too but... I also believe that is one less baby who would probably be neglected, abused, or worse because that same woman or girl feels pressure to keep this baby.
If you are lucky enough to have never suffered a brutal rape, you could not possibly understand. If you have and you still feel this way, you are stronger than many many many women.
Disagree with you sm
I'm not going to get into a religious war but a TRUE Christian would never dress like that!
I disagree
I was both in the military and legally drinking when I was 18. Husband, whom I met and married in the military when I was still a teen, entered when he graduated high school at 17. We did not have a problem with drinking responsibly and neither did most of our fellow soldiers at that age. In fact, most of the young soldiers just out of high school are way more responsible than the average college student years older because that responsibility and accountability is demanded of them by the military and is generally not demanded in civilian life.
People trying to take away even more responsibility/accountability by excusing bad behavior because of the "youth" of people that are legally adults are creating the problem by refusing to put the accountability for said bad behavior exactly where it belongs--on the people behaving irresponsibly, and likely on the parents for not instilling the knowledge that there are consequences for bad actions. Budweiser is not responsible for their idiocy. Jack Daniels is not responsible for their stupidity. They are.
Oh I so disagree with you
I tried and tried, did things my g'children loved but I did NOT want them playing on my company computer and my company machines, not mine but if I asked them to come out of the room then the DIL thought I was wrong because at the other g'parents home they could do everything they wanted? As a PARENT you have to instill the fact there is not just 1 set of parents, usually 2 - maternal as well as paternal and both should be able to spend time with the kids. It is terribly unfair otherwise just to be 1 sided and this is exactly what happened in my case. I had no say in my being bypassed. My DIL so entangled in her family, my side didn’t and still doesn’t count. I eventually gave up- I did not want to compete for attention.
I disagree...I think you are looking too far into this...
her children obviously don't want to go for a reason because they are crying not to go...sounds to me like something the grandmother is doing and not the mother...rememeber she asked for opinions not judgement...
I disagree
Spanking doesn't have to be abusive. It doesn't have to be done with a belt buckle, or something that will inflict undue harm.
The power of spanking is humiliation. Using your hand or a folded magazine to sting the kid's buttocks or upper back thighs is not going to scar them, physically or emotionally. What it does do is let them know their behavior is unacceptable and has consequences.
Throughout human history, the majority of people have used spanking as discipline - notice I said discipline not punishment - and I would say the human race has managed to make progress. So, spanking can't be that awful.
I was spanked 3 times in my childhood and I have never laid a hand on anyone in my life. So, the theory about spanking making the recipient into an abuser is just bunk. Tens of thousands of us were spanked as kids, and we turned out fine.
I am not advocating out of control parents beating kids within an inch of their life - but I do think a swat on the bottom isn't the end of the world for any kid.
I do wish people weren't so afraid of kids today - kids have way too much power and adults need to take it back. We're aren't doing these kids any favors by giving them the run of the place.
I could not disagree more
I see no reason whatsoever to have a girl on hormones to "manage" her for her entire life in one way or another, to me that is repression. I also disagree that being a woman causes "needless suffering." Seems like men have simply perverted the normal for monetary gain and insist on managing every miniscule aspect of our bodies. It does not take much to convince a woman that if she is okay she is an exception to the rule.
I disagree...
my husband and I each have an e-mail account with our own passwords and I am sure that if I asked, he would give me the password, but I really have no reason to read his e-mail. Don't you think that he should be able to have something of his own? I have nothing to hide in my e-mail, but have never even thought to offer up my password. Frankly, I would be offended should he ever ask for it.
Sorry, but I disagree...
That is great that you are happy and not having orgasm, but not everyone feels that way. It does not mean that is the only 'glue' in the marriage, but it is an important component to many marriages, and that's okay.
I disagree...
I think that if you lose your honor, it is a bad example for your children. I am not saying that she should not make sure that she gets some money, but it is dishonorable and bad for the children to take it all. I watched it happen and I don't think it is good for the children. Also, kids know more than you think. If you feel you are resorting to something, you are doing the wrong thing. I watched my mother act in a way that she taught me to be better than. I will never regain that respect. And it was never about us. It was about revenge. My point was that women should be careful of stooping to those levels, it happens a lot. I was not defending the husband. He might be a horrible person or he might be okay; I have no idea. The OP cannot control his actions, but she can control her own.
You can disagree all you want but if you
don’t notice either a rapid weight gain or weight loss, then you don’t really know your body. I have a scale at home, maybe you should invest in another or just do what you want with the deal about weighing. I am not going to, don’t have to but whatever floats your boat.
Disagree with you
There are many reasons why a child flies alone but that aside, what is the big deal? They are supposed to be assigned a flight attendant at that age to chaperone them. Obviously there were a bunch of incompetent people at every step of the way. I have flown alone many times as a young kid - no biggie if people are doing their jobs the way they are supposed to. The airline is absolutely at fault here.
well...I both agree and disagree...
I agree that your feelings of being attacked are valid. As a preacher, he should know better than to judge you or your family.
On the other hand though, I would not do such a display, and that is just me! I don't decorate much for Halloween, maybe a few Jack-o-lanterns, but that's about it. And only cause the kids like making them. Sounds as though your decorations are pretty elaborate, though. To each her own...have fun!!!
I am sure people with disagree with me but...sm
I think the school has told you what they can and cannot do...it is now up to YOU as her parents to make up the difference. You stated that your daughter has ADD, which in itself requires more attentional than a student without it. With 27 children in a classroom, which unfortunately is what almost all of us face with public school, the teachers just do not have the time to focus on children with special needs. If she were my child, I would put however many hours it would take at home to work with you. And if you can, go to the school and work in her classroom. Most teachers beg parents to become helpers in the classroom.
I have a 17-year-old nephew who cannot read at all but has been passed from grade to grade. His parents basically blamed the school system instead of working outside of school with him. I do not agree that he should be passed on from one grade to another, but unfortunately that is what happens to most of these kids....the schools won't flunk kids anymore because of no child left behind.
Bottom line...try every avenue open to you at home...Sylvan or private tutor or whatever is available.
I have to respectfully disagree with you on this. If it
costs him his job and his reputation, that is entirely his own fault. This may not be the first time something like this happened and if he gets away with it, it probably will not be the last time either. Who knows what it could escalate to with someone else. I would not appreciate that kind of comment made to my 24-year-old daughter and would not hesitate for one minute to report it to management. That is absolutely and completely unacceptable from anyone for any reason. He admitted he thought she was pretty and was maybe overly friendly, so, obviously he knows he's wrong and should suffer the repercussions from his inappropriate behavior.
Disagree on aspirin
We used to prescribe Ascripton all the time to dogs with arthritis. My dog has been on one to two a day for several years now. Also my neighbors dog has been on aspirin for his arthritis. Just like people you have to watch for bleeding or hemorrhage but when she had a benign growth removed last August her blood work was better than that of an 8 year old dog. Again you have to watch for the signs of GI bleeding but it is not as potentially dangerous as the NSAID's are to the liver. Read about those side effects. I have been given hand outs on the use of aspirin by several vet's. So again -- I disagree with you.
yes..we can agree to disagree...sm
I will always take an animal's side over a humans. They cannot defend themselves. I was not judging YOU personally and you did not need to explain yourself to me. I never asked that you do. I was addressing *craters* to those that choose that over spending the time to properly train. I will argue this point no more, and I am sure you will be happy with that. you are just wrong too. have a good evening.
Others may disagree with me, but since it is cooked
I think it would be fine.
Agree or disagree
An Associates Degree isn't worth the paper its printed on. Agree or disagree?
There was lunchtime conversation about this today. One person said an Associates degree is useless because it won't help you get a better job than just having a GED or Diploma. Not worth the paper its printed on.
Another said a 2 year degree is a total waste of money. You save a lot of money by choosing a 4 year college and totally bypassing a 2 year program altogether.
Another said a batchelors degree is losing its value now & unless you have a Master's you can't get too far in any field.
Of course a masters degree would be better to have than an associates & a PHD would be even better, but doesn't an associates degree still have meaning? What do you think?
I agree and disagree....I think and would
love to see women 40 and over on VS. To see these children in ads is disheartening. Friends and I have taken polls - young people in VS with older women or just the young ones. Everyone said older women too. Older women are more sexier, confident, funny, secure, sexual and know what they want. The young ones are insecure, money hungry, have no idea what a relatinship is, and lastly, do not know about life and that life is not fun. It is hard and you have to give in order to receive. It is not all about good looks and a good body!!!
I disagree with the other poster
While forgiveness is divine, forgetting is just plain dumb. I would not let this incident go by without discussing it with the mother of the daughter as well as the teacher and the school principal. Personal space or not, that girl had no right to put her hands on your son. She was not defending herself. She was not in harms' way. If she gets away with this now, it will only continue. In public school, this kind of thing would be handled by suspension of the girl. Boy or girl, big or small, every child has the right to feel safe in school. That's one of the fundamental rights of all children. See to it that this private school enforces it. Only you can make them accountable.
I realize how angry you must be right now, but hopefully by posting this and sleeping on it tonight, you'll be able to compose yourself enough to handle this maturely.
I disagree with that old adage...
My mother remarried when I was 7 and my brother 12. My stepfather brought four kids into the family ages 5, 7, 9 and 12. Back in those days (1967) we respected people and had manners. We had problems at first but quickly became a blended family of 8. Perhaps because my parents sat us down before they married and explained that neither parent was taking the place of the biological parent.
We are all now in our late 40's to 50's and see each other on a daily basis. My brother remarried and adopted his stepdaughter. I do not think of my brothers and sisters as "step" and I call my stepfather dad and he always referred to me as his daughter - not his stepdaughter.
Bottom line, blood is not thicker than water unless you want it to be.
I have to disagree with some of these points
I do know that my natural gas bill, which is what I would be heating with, was WAY more than my electric bill. So I totally disagree with the statement that gas central heat is cheaper. My last heating bill 3 years ago (which only included gas) was $450 for one month.
What you posted says it uses .12 cph, which would equal approx $90 for 30 days, I could put 5 of them in my home before I reached my last gas bill!
Is this for everyone, no. Should it be used as a constant source of heat, probably not for most households (some single people might get away with it).
Really the only thing I saw in the article you posted against this heater was the cost of the heater. I am willing to pay that because I happen to want something that looks nice. This has a 30-day money back guarantee and a one year warranty.
Where I live anything that you can do to turn the thermostat down, if you use gas, will save you money. I need to heat my house 24/7 for about 7 months out of the year, if I had to pay for natural gas I don't know what I would do.
Heartily disagree with some of those...
I love the post office. For 42 cents, they will take my card or letter all the way across the US, to Alaska or Hawaii! I think it's the greatest bargain going. (And, no, I don't know anyone who works for the post office.)
Secondly, I would NEVER give up my land line on my telephone. Try dealing with a few conversations getting choppy and incomprehensible on a cell. Cell phones have their place, but their quality is pretty poor compared to that line stretched on the poles.
While I disagree with you... I am curious
What "chemical change" do you think it causes in their bodies? I have a bachelor's degree in Animal Science, which is mostly production, and I know that withdrawal periods on growth hormones are very long. Most cattle would get their last ear implant at 3 months of age. We generally butcher at 2 years of age. They are moved from grass to grain slowly and the change that it produces is in the microbial content of their stomachs, which is something that we do not eat. Since ruminants digest with the aid of microbes, you cannot just move them straight to grain because they cannot process it. The muscle stays the same chemically. The reason for grain finished beef is that consumers pay more money for a higher intramuscular fat content. This is what makes your steak juicy. All beef (grass fed or otherwise) has extramuscular fat trimmed to 1/4" thickness. It is only the marbling that changes from grade to grade. Personally, I am convinced that most foods are good for you, if not taken to excess. Ruminants are the only natural source of B-complex vitamins, as their bodies produce them and ours do not. You can take a vitamin, but it is usually made from beef. Corn finished beef. The only reason for corn finishing versus raising them on corn to start with is that corn is very expensive. Fat is the most expensive part of any animal's diet, so finishing is cost effective.
There are a few ways to disagree. You can
respectfully diagree, and you can be nasty and bash. The latter would be the troll.
Because I disagree, that makes me
miserable. You have no idea what kind of life I have, which by the way seems almost A letter perfect compared to most I read on this board. If I should need help, I certainly do not try to find on a forum with people who are total strangers to me and could not give me a helping hand if need be. You speak as though you are on a first name basis with these other people when in actuality you would not even know them if they walked up to your door. I would think the original poster grown; however to ask did she miss a bullet when turning down giving a ride to 2 strangers and she has to ask??? I say again, she should not be out by herself, the next time she might make a different decision and it end her life. Oh, I'm not perfect but I sure have common sense and use it and never have to ask you or others on this board for answers anyone over the age of 8 or 9 should already know.
I strongly disagree!.
I think everybody remembers the 'first time'.
It is said that no woman forgets her first lover and even if they might part, she will always have a special place in her heart for him. (Well, not everyone, it depends on him, too)
Not that I disagree well to a degree
I am sorry, but you are comparing an animal rescue to human babies; no, no, no. Animals can fend for themselves if left alone, but babies cannot.
No, she should not have gone out and did it again, but it goes along the same lines as people who do not believe in abortion. JMHO.
I'm sure the faith board would have a field day with your temperament here.
What is the difference between what this girl did and what other families that have multiple children do? Not a thing. There's a show on called Jon and Kate plus eight or something like that; check it out sometime. That mother works hard.
Another thing is, some people just want to be famous, so this is her style. I'm just not sure I agree with the "what are you thinking?" She wanted children, and now she's got them and if people feel compelled to help her, then so be it.
By the way, I believe in choice as far as abortion goes, so I'm not welcome on the fath board either, I'm sure, since most believe that abortion should be banned.
Believe me, I see where you are coming from to a degree regarding having babies on purpose, but comparing babies to animals just doesn't settle too well with me. 
I disagree with most on this issue...
I do NOT think that the counselor should have said anything to the girl's parents at all. If she were pregnant, it would be evident soon enough. It is irresponsible for an adult to lend any credibility to this sort of gossip at all, not to mention embarassing to the girl to whom it happened. I had a similar situation in Junior High, only involving smoking and not pregnancy (which I understand is a big difference), but I was a straight A student who was horrified that I was accused of something that I never would have done. I can't imagine if it had been a pregnant rumor. Adults should not get in the middle of mean adolescent gossip, it only lends it validation.
I must disagree with that. My husband
would ask that 'we' buy her groceries or necessities since she's a mother because he has a kind heart, but he wouldn't do it to feel like a hero, and he wouldn't go to that extreme of $500, ESPECIALLY without consulting me, and I would venture to say if it came to that, he would want me to handle it so that it wouldn't look improper. This is FLIRTING at the very least, if not more, and I think she should confront the situation. I'm sure her husband would not like it if the roles were reversed & it was his wife & another man. The feelings of your spouse come first, and if the woman is in need, it's something they should address as a couple if THEY decide to help her out.
I disagree about the swearing
It doesn't matter when your son swore at the other child, it still happened. If he isn't punished for it, then he'll learn he can get away with it, he just has be careful who he does it around so he doesn't get caught right then. He knows he said the swear word and I'm sure he knew it was wrong, so he should take the consequences.
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