Now I think this subject is taking a totally different turn. Where is your sense of
Posted By: Irritated Friend on 2007-02-02
In Reply to: You said if you really WANT to, well heard the - Janet
personal responsibility? You can change things about yourself if you truly want to. Trust me. This is coming from a formerly abused, abandoned woman who was left in foster care and turned her life around for the better. My children are my main motivation.
You sound like you have a real problem with someone taking personal responsibility for themselves and blaming the "just because that is the way I am" approach, which I obviously do not believe in because if I did, then I would be a has been, still on the streets, where I was left 20 years ago. Give me a break.
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i totally agree! common sense says he was with both when they suddenly sm
died of "over dose" and he was the one who gave the pills to daniel. something fishy to the obvious eye, but guess like OJ, you got money, you escape justice.
Oh my gosh...I totally understand about the no common sense part...
like his brain stopped working when he hit 9 or something...I am constantly telling him "use your brain." But honestly, it is nice to hear other parents going through the same thing, because my husband and I thought maybe it was just our son---LOL...
dont you guys think she should have just not even brought the subject up? its a touchy subject at
that age. i think she knew she would be openning up a can of worms. the children who dont believe made fun of the ones who do...right in the classroom...during this very scary time of bullying in schools....she just really changed things for us 2 weeks before christmas...very upset.
I like that song turn turn tun
I think the lyrics come from the book of Ecclestiastes.
Amen Sister! She is totally unrealistic! Totally. Loved your post! sm
My grandparents (from VT), will tell you that my grandfather began farming at 6-7 under the supervision of his 10 year old brother. haha No major incidents - his mother tended the home and ran a nursery and she did have the siblings watch over each other. I didn't even think about all of this until you mentioned the farming post. I loved it!
I, for one, need plenty of sleep - so I must work during the day while they are here...Oops, I gottah go! My 2 year old just fell off the kitchen table.
just kidding
No subject
I grew up in CT. Would give anything to live in New England, but husband won't. Then again I would not put him close to my family (its bad enough they drive me insane HA HA). Now that I think of it, not sure I'd want to live that close either. HA HA I've gotten use to our privacy. (we won't even live close to his family so at least its fair) :-) We've lived in Germany, CO, CA, AZ, CA (again), VA, CA (again) WA, CA (again), NV, WA (again), and now OR. We've lived enough placed to know what we like and what we don't (and made some mistakes of moving back to places that once we got there said...why in the world did we move to this state again). Sounds like we would love AK, but after some more serious discussions doubt we will get to move there. Hubby still trying to find a job so going to look locally. I just saw different job opportunities in AK and wondered what it would be like to live there. I will always be a New Englander at heart, but you just gotta live where there is work. Thanks.
Because that it just the subject line..sm
you are supposed to use the message space for the entire message, not the subject line. duh.
I don't mean to change the subject but
this statement "raised in all female household" - I am curious. My daughter's husband was raised by women and he's just the nicest devoted husband, really unique, and I wonder if there is something to this - Anybody else have a similar experience?
I definitely agree with you on this subject.
Everyone should worry about themselves. I am agnostic myself, not atheist, but I am not militant about it and don't try to push my beliefs on others. But knocking this person's parenting is really unfair and not very *Christian-like* according to Christian beliefs.
It is my opinion that *nonbelievers* are just scientific minded and want/need proof, that's all. They are usually people who don't blindly follow or conform but want to know why. I also believe that an atheist can be a terrific parent.
I can talk on this subject because
I can almost guarantee that if your child asks you this, when they are out on their own they would never return the same. I know, have an older daughter who asked me about my earlier life. She is now in her 30s and if I kiddingly ask I get the reply none of your business and it is not really and have told her as long as she is safe, no problem here. Your past is yours, no one elses.
This is a sensitive subject, but is anyone else SM
Tired of the commercials advertising products for feminine odor? I just heard this again several times yesterday and it is degrading. If anyone has an odor bad enough that you are offending others there is a simple remedy . . it's called soap and water. Is it me, or is that disrespectful to women? Why don't we discuss some of the more delicate matters regarding men on TV? I could name a few. 
But we need to subject our children
Is it fair for me (with no education in teaching) to try to teach my child, die, and then expect my child to do well as an adult in this society? No way. Let them live and learn as I did. Homeschooling, in my opinion (again my opinion) is like the MA and PA days where there wasn't enough room at the schools or there weren't enough educated teachers coming in on a wagon to teach the children on the prairie.
I'm glad my kids go to public school. The high school I attended had a lot of kids that came from private school because the high school was vo-tech, so the parents felt the kids were getting better than public school. Those kids that came from the private schools knew more about sex and drugs than I did growing up in the public school system. I guess their parents had the money, and I guess the kids felt penned up, I don't really know the cause.
Never would I expect my children to go out and get a job or even survive one minute in college without an education from a school system. I don't care to hear about home school curriculums either because I'm focused more on the socialization. I don't want my children to be introverts or homebodies! Let them see the world for themselves and for what it truly is, a melting pot, something to be experienced, a beautiful thing, and to avoid negativity at all costs, but to experience some just to learn from it. JMO. P.S.: Thanks for listening.....
since this is such a delicate subject...
have you seen or talked to a counselor or had your son in any? I haven't kept up on your posts so maybe I missed something, but I'm not sure anyone's opinion is qualified to handle something so important as this...
Good luck to you
what is the subject matter?
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That's such a touchy subject...
I have a 10-year-old son who is overweight, and for me personally, I would want to know if he is eating 4-6 donuts such as this girl is doing. I just think your approach would make or break it all. If someone were to approach me, I wouldn't mind at all, but I don't get really too offended easily especially if I know it is the truth. Chances are, this girl's mom knows she has an eating problem. I'm sure she's not just overeating on Sunday's. But then again, maybe it runs in the family and if you did say something, it may not go well. In my family, only my son is overweight, not my other kids nor my husband or I. The doctors have told me it is just genetic. But for me personally, I would want to know because it is not healthy and we try and work with our son about being healthy and making right choices for himself.
Here's a though, how about letting the person in charge on Sunday be aware and then he/she can remind the kids to only take 1 donut each, that way everyone can get enjoy them.
On the panhandling subject...
I used to live in SLC. Apparently you have to buy a license to panhandle up there. Funny thing is, some of those guys make more money doing that than I do.
Well, DH and I debated with her on this subject
I told her I wished she had not even brought it up, but we told her we appreciated the fact that she felt comfortable enough to tell us. We also figured that she could go do it without telling us and I would rather her feel like she could tell us than lie to us and do it anyway.
Then we realized in a few months she will be gone to college and we will not know what she is doing.
This was just one thing I didn't want to have to say yes to, so I made DH make the decision! LOL! I told him it would be on him if anything happened. (I've always been the "yes" or "no" parent all these years, so I figured it was only fair he have to do it at least once while she was still living at home!)
She is spending the night and it is only 3 people going to be there and we told her under no circumstances is she to leave in her car or with anyone else that is driving. (Her big thing about people drinking is that she thinks they should never drive). If things get out of hand, she is to call us and we will come pick her up.
Now, I am torn between hoping she gets sick so she will never want to do it again (although that never stopped me back in the day) or hoping she is sensible enough to only have a drink or 2 and stop.
It just isn't fun being a parent. I still don't like that she is doing this. I don't like it at all!
on subject of divorce reasons
Mine:
1. He cheated on me with EVERYBODY he could.
2. He was a control freak, didnt work, took all my money and hit me.
His:
1. she cheated on him.
2. She was a control freak and all she wanted him for was his money. When he changed from a high paying, high stress job to a lower pay but much lower stress job, she left.
Is it any wonder that either one of us wants anything to do with anybody else?
I saw all the posts on this subject yesterday too, --sm
and usually if the moderator moves a thread, there is an arrow showing that, or sometimes an explanation as to why something was eliminated. Sometimes if someone mentions a specific name or area, a thread might be removed, but she usually explains that. Maybe something went wrong with the system. Perhaps she will explain later when she sees this. I don't think it was placed on the *wrong board*. But congrats to the new parents!!!
Slightly off the subject but this reminds me
of the headlines about the poor woman laying on the ER floor in California vomiting blood and dying and not having anyone pay any attention to her! How disgusting is that!!!!
On the subject of hair color... (sm)
Not to hijack your post, but does anyone know what will easily remove hair color from the skin? My hairstyle is very short and I always end up with color stains on my neck, ears and forehead. The remover they use in the salon doesn't do a good job. I've tried alcohol, shampoo, and even a Shout wipe! Any other suggestions?
Since we are posted on a subject I dearly luv!!!
Sex/cooking. I just made the most delicious Rachel Ray Recipe.. Chorizo-Hominy & etal...Stoup plus a few of my own concoctions. Served it hot & piping with cheese and chicken quesadillas...(CAT, this chicken from those last 3 recipes I boasted about...Have used it all) Excuse pleez, this was well received by the entire family, teenager, preteenager, dieting daughter, hungry husband, sweet son-in-law and handsome G-Q house guest from Brazil....
This is a personal subject between him and his wife.
First, I hardly think affairs are only a NY thing. Do you know all of NY office holders? If you believe stats, most American adults have had an affair. I don't think that necessarily makes a person not decent, it just means they're human and had a failing. Personally, I'm tired of God complexes in Government.
This is a personal subject between him and his wife. I wonder how many of us could live up to the scrutiny heaped upon politicians. I KNOW I couldn't. I've made mistakes too.
regarding the subject of deers being kept as pets - sm
I just talked with several people at the wildlife offices and game law enforcement. There is nothing they can do if the owners are allowing the deer to roam around as a wild deer would and are taking care of it, which they are. They said there is not enough money in their budget to relocate this deer to another area. This deer was again standing in my pansies eating away yesterday with deer repellent on there. They also told me I was one of many who have called as of late. Really, really annoyed and frustrated that this is the best the state of AL can do (no, I am not FROM here, just ended up here). 
A gross subject, but I gotta ask --
My son is 11 and the last few days has had a few "wet farts" -- there's no color to it, but enough to soak through his jeans. He didn't even notice it, said he didn't feel wet, but we noticed it and so did another child at school. At first, I thought he just sat in something wet, but when he came home from school with it, I took a second look at his jeans and noticed the position of it was more in line with "an accident." He says he doesn't remember passing gas. There's a slight discoloration to it and a slight odor.
I've never had this happen to me personally except when I was getting over diarrhea. Has anyone else had this happen without being sick? Any ideas on what could be causing it? I'm hoping it's not a rectocele or IBS.
found this on google, there's a lot there about this subject...
Yes, closing a credit card will hurt your credit, since you will no longer have the benefit of that available established credit history.
However, since it is "a must" that you are going to close it, it doesn't really matter what the effect will be, so don't second guess yourself to death. BTW, it will be minimal, especially over the long run.
It is better to leave it open so that will give you a longer credit history, rather than closing one and opening another. The new one is not going to establish credit.
i read that over in the subject & I thought..
everyone is going to think I was 46 when I started having kids.. lol.. I was young when I started having kids.. if I was told I was pregnant now, OMGosh.. I WOULD lose my mind..
Your turn
Can anyone's life possibly be as boring as yours obviously is?
NOPE!
:) :)
Okay, go ahead and post - Your turn!
Maybe you could turn it around
for yourself. Look at it with a different perspective. Do something to help someone else to make yourself feel better. God bless you!!  Something I did was donated money to WorldVision they have a wonderful gift catalog that helps people around the world with things like seeds for plants, wheelchairs, etc. It is okay to have the blues at times, I love this time of the year but have difficult days during this time of the year as well. It is okay! Take a day at a time and enjoy. 
Certainly you CAN turn them in but not a law to do
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If he did, it would probably turn out like
Taylor Hicks, don't hear much about him.
Don't you think if his dad was willing I would turn to him first? (sm)
Do you really think you are the only person who knows right from wrong and has values? You have no idea how hard I try to do the best for my children in every aspect. I went to four marriage counsellors, talked pastors, read books, prayed and begged my husband to make our marriage work. His mother had cancer and I waited two years for her to get better so that I would not add to everyone's strife. Now his mother is sick again with cancer, found out after I left, and she has called me and expressed that she understands why I left. I let my childrenspend the whole Easter weekend with her and their dad even though I missed them terribly. I am really a good person. I'm also very offended.
would you turn this other mom/son in?
The case where the 13-year old boy has cancer and his parents don't want him to take the chemo/radiation treatments, so she took off with him. They want Native American holistic help instead. If you saw them, or knew where they were, would you turn them in?
Gas - when you turn it off - it goes off...
A story similar to the subject line
I work with a woman whose husband makes a fraction of what she makes - but that is only because she has no choice but to work as much OT as possible to keep up with his spending. He is constantly buying on whims, laptops, toys that men like, one day he came home with a brand new 25,000 truck that he didn't even talk to her about. She is now 68 years old and has no savings whatsoever. She had to buy their land and the mobile home on it as his credit was shot (bankruptcy) and so, since it is in her name, he doesn't do a thing around the property. It is in desperate need of repair. The repairs come when things come crashing down at outrageously high expense.
And when she confronts him, he goes ballistic on her, throwing things, screaming at her until she turns into a diminutive little girl again, only wanting him to be happy and so, she stays quiet.
This is so sad. She couldn't retire if she wanted to.
She has put up with this for over 20 years so it will never change.
I'd suggest getting a grip on this now with some counseling before you end up in her shoes. Please try to make him realize he has a personality flaw and that having you in his life is keeping him from ending up with nothing and that, in fact, you are a Godsend.
that person did not post on your last subject (ice cream)....
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Did I miss a previous post on this subject somewhere
or is this just kinda bizarre?
Oops - got my name and subject line mixed up above
Guess its time to call it quits. :-) The two are backwards.
Off subject - Many insurance companie won't insure - sm
your home for certain breeds, Pitbulls and Rotweilers are two of them, also Siberian Huskies and German shepards in others. I have had huskys for years and they are the friendliest dogs in the world though they look fierce since they closely resemble wolves and are probably the closest domesticated dog to a wolf. It is unfair to the breed to mark it as dangerous because of its looks. My dog does get aggressive around other dogs but he is the Alpha male here, but with people he is just fine. I have the only husky in the world that does not bark or howl, he "talks" on rare occasion. The breed doesn't usually don't bark much as it is, but they love to howl. We have another dog but a female lab and the two of them are fine together. While I like pitbulls and I have known a few to be very good dogs, I will always be on my guard around them as you never know what might trigger it to become aggressive. Dogs can feel threatened over the such little things and cause such heartbreak in the process.
I am the original poster on this subject. See message.
When this stuff first happened I was much younger and I did not find out anything about it until after the birth of my second daughter. That is when my sisters first tried to say something. At the time I had two little girls and not much reason to trust my sisters back then for reasons that I won't go into. I did what I thought was best for my little girls at that time, but throughout all these years there has always been an uneasy feeling about the whole situation. I just chose to bury it and I take full responsibility for that.
Now, I have finally gotten to a point in my life where I am confident enough to be able to handle the truth and because of some other problems, this subject resurfaced and I chose to ask my sisters to tell me the truth of what happened. They told me and now I am left with a big decision to make.
I have no reason to believe he has done anything like that since, but I don't know that for sure. He has been a controlling force in this marriage, but at the same time a hard worker who has taken care of our family with me.
I guess I'm trying to justify what I am feeling now and trying to make myself feel better about wanting to end the marriage.
Thank you everyone for all the good advice. I do appreciate it.
Do you want us to turn off the T.V. when there is coverage?
The infamous and famous make the news. It is difficult not to form an opinion after such controversial information is revealed.
This stuff would not turn me on, would it you??
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Turn on some music (sm)
go to a tanning bed if you do that sort of thing...maybe after work? Sounds like Seasonal Affective Disorder?
Has our country taken a turn for the ...
Our once great country, I afraid, has just turned a corner for the worse. I have watched as the mentality of our country has gone from setting your mind to something, working hard, and you can accomplish it to giving up, sitting back, and letting somebody else take care of them.
I was brought up, as many were, with a good work ethic that was instilled in us by our parents. With the idea that if you want something you had to work for it, and by working for something you learned quickly the difference between wants and needs.
There were always incentives for a person to strive to better themselves. Whether it were financial incentives, or just the pride you gained in knowing that you did something yourself, it didn’t matter.
I wasn’t long ago that people had that “small town” mentality, and everybody knew their neighbors. And those neighbors helped each other out, in any situation, it was just what you did. And people were so proud that some times help would have to be disguised, you remember the lines like..”Mom made more stew than we could eat, could you help us out by taking it so that it doesn’t go to waste?”
But, somewhere along the line those thoughts of some (I guess now the majority) have changed. Some how, if somebody works hard to gain something others feel entitled to have the same things, even if they didn’t have to go through the struggle to earn it. Some how, things like big screen TVs, cell phones, and shiny new cars have wrongly slipped from the “wants” list to the “needs” list.
Somewhere the incentives to strive for betterment have been replaced by incentives to be lazy. The easy way out and hand outs are now the norm. The feeling of pride about being self sufficient is supposed to be replaced by guilt for having more than others.
The “small town” mentality is gone and our neighbors have turned into strangers. People no longer help out their neighbors or even themselves, instead they sit and wait for the government to come solve things for them. And when help does come they complain that the help wasn’t good enough or didn’t come fast enough, the pride is gone.
Well, I refuse to think that way, my small town roots and work ethic runs to deep. I refuse to let somebody take care of me while I am willing and able to take care of myself. I will continue to meet and know my neighbors and help them out when they need it. I will continue to work hard to take care of my needs and by doing so, my wants will take care of themselves. I will continue to volunteer for things and give to charities of my choice regardless of what the government wants to take away from me and give to the undeserving.
My hope is to change the thinking back to the way it was. The sun will rise again tomorrow, I’ll keep doing what I do, and this country can be great again….at least in my little corner of it…
How did it turn out, what did you bring???
Love to know!
it was about 3 years ago and if I can turn him in I want to (sm)
I have been upset with him for years for keeping me from turning my husband in. I thought I had to wait for another major incident before I could report anything. Can I actually go back now, 3 years later and report him? Because I would like to.
You said when you turn gas off- it goes off, welllllllll
not all the time. I had left the home, hubby came home and heard the clicking sound. Now I know why he tells me just to stay out of the kitchen. Clicking, what clicking. I don't hear any clicking......
She didn't say "who" in the subject line, only "he"...sm
with Sanjaya being not the only guy left the "he" could have been any of the guys.
Only my mother. Great books about subject out there thankfully.
// it helped for me to realize she had a personality type and she was not just selfish and uncaring - the combination of things described really helped me to understand her - and avoid her at all costs!
That's kind of intrusive. The subject is Design Star
Start your own thread.
On the subject of fault. Dont read if easily
If my opinion upsets someone, I think it is their "fault" (for lack of a better word) if they get upset. Everyone owns their own feelings and should not let someone else's opinion have so much power over how they feel. As far as lemmings and masses, those are generalities, a comment on society as a whole, not aimed at any one person.
I am sorry if my opinions have so much influence over others. I will try to keep my thoughts in check.
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