Not trying fo get points and people think what they want.....
Posted By: Missie on 2007-01-05
In Reply to: I get your point, but you lost points due to perception of slamming - fellow MT's.
I told how I work, what I do. I told what I see on these posts. How can that be anything but truth?? If it is perceived to be something other than that, well so be it. Only telling the truth. I think lots of MTs probably see themselves in what I have said and I have stepped on toes.
Complete Discussion Below:  marks the location of current message within thread
The messages you are viewing
are archived/old.
To view latest messages and participate in discussions, select
the boards given in left menu
Other related messages found in our database
points are - it's all about.........sm
 in this country it is all about which politician is sleeping with which drug company, how much $$ transpires (greased palms), and in the end, what with all the drug recalls after extensive studying of all the drugs, recalled or not recalled, our family members being used as guinea pigs.
You like this system of doing things? You like the FDA?
*pppffffftttttttttttt*
As to your points
By the time of "the incident", drinking 12 beers was going real easy, 18 was average, and 24-30 meant it was the weekend. It was always one of my fears that I would wake up in the morning to find him dead beside me because I'm sure BAL had to be well in excess of .4. I always wondered if that tolerance of alcoholics (he can drink a 6-pack without visible effect to the untrained eye; I can't drink 2) always increased the level necessary to induce coma/respiratory failure.
As to pitying him, when I fell in love him he wasn't as bad as he is now. He drank 1 day a week, and then it was 2, and then it was 4, and then it was 7. Even now, I still love the part of him that's drowned there in the bottom of the Budweiser bottle. And I do pity him; I don't think he's happy. I think he drinks because he's miserable and then he's miserable because he drinks. The 2 months he was sober after the arrest was the longest his 14-year-old son has seen him sober, and the son is starting to show signs of the narcissistic danger-seeking behavior of his father, and I know that is tearing the ex up, although, ironically, he blames it on everything but himself.
As to the subpoena, the DA, at least the last time I talked to him, made it sound like there were no hard feelings if I didn't show up, although apparently without me there is only the report of the arresting officers.
In the state where it happened, punishment is a maximum of 1 year in jail. The ex tried to make me feel guilty about testifying and potentially making him miss a year at this critical phase in his boy's life, but there's a part of me that thinks getting the kid away from his dad and his father's cronies for a year would probably be a gift. I don't know why CPS hasn't stepped in by now anyway, although this is a bit "backwards" of a community.
I think it just said "low points", but
when I baked them yesterday, I ended up with 18 muffins and they were about 2 points each. I also saw on the same post where you can add unsweetened applesauce and FF egg substitute. That poster said this adds 0 points, so I guess you just figure out the points for the mix.
Finally, someone said they baked cookies with just the spice cake mix and the pumpkin. No water. 350 degrees at 10 minutes. I'm guessing you would be more cookies than muffns this way and lower points, but haven't tried them yet.
What points you are racking up!!
Give from your heart like you are doing. You will have Karma unbelievably so. I have gave over the years and continue to do so, first a friend whose husband died, having a tough time and I gave her $100- went up to my father's home and he turned around and gave me $10,000, bought a coat for a child in my neighborhood who needed 1 on a freezing day, paid $30.00 for that and the next day had unexpected check in mail for $300.00. I give money to animal shelter each and every month for their upkeep and even take my daily papers to the pound because the animals need those. I love being able to give, have done since I was a young child so my mother told me. You are really making points with the good that you do, give from your heart, no matter what you seem to think the response is, your rewards will be there for you in the long run. I never give to get back, never ever, just from my heart. I read stories in the papers or hear on television and will send money to different people I think deserve with never an expected return. Your heart is good!!
I see your points and agree that there
is definitely more going on here. It's very hard to give just 1 answer. There are so many other factors involved. As you said, is he just a deadbeat? Or is he out of work for the first time and is having a hard time dealing with it. Maybe he kept the $10 because he didn't want to have to ask (or beg) his wife for money later in the week. Does the wife handle the finances and does she "dole out" the money as she sees fit? If so, then I don't blame him for keeping the $10. Or is he constantly out of work, can't hold a job, wants the money for drinking or cards, etc?
Either way, the amount seems very trivial to end a marriage over. I, too, think there is more going on here and maybe this is just the straw that broke the camel's back.
I have to disagree with some of these points
I do know that my natural gas bill, which is what I would be heating with, was WAY more than my electric bill. So I totally disagree with the statement that gas central heat is cheaper. My last heating bill 3 years ago (which only included gas) was $450 for one month.
What you posted says it uses .12 cph, which would equal approx $90 for 30 days, I could put 5 of them in my home before I reached my last gas bill!
Is this for everyone, no. Should it be used as a constant source of heat, probably not for most households (some single people might get away with it).
Really the only thing I saw in the article you posted against this heater was the cost of the heater. I am willing to pay that because I happen to want something that looks nice. This has a 30-day money back guarantee and a one year warranty.
Where I live anything that you can do to turn the thermostat down, if you use gas, will save you money. I need to heat my house 24/7 for about 7 months out of the year, if I had to pay for natural gas I don't know what I would do.
The others do have valid points, but...sm
things like this happen to me and I am most annoyed about the lack of consideration. It bothers me to spend time looking for an item to use only to find out it was lent out. My brother once let his friend use my lawnmower, without telling me. I ended up borrowing my neighbor's mower because the lawn was getting overgrown. It took 3 weeks to get mine back. I think it is reasonable to be asked first, especially if it is something of sentimental value, something that needs extra careful handling, or something that is actually used frequently like kitchen implements/pots/pans...and lawnmowers, of course. : )
Wow....good points actually nm
x
All good points!
I am in the state of Louisiana and not sure what the laws are regarding this. Ironicially, the neighbor who committed suicide informed ME a few years earlier that a previous owner of my home did the same thing and the first thing I asked him was if it occurred in the house! He told me it did not, it was at another location and I have to admit I was relieved to hear that.
In any event, they were good neighbors and I feel so bad for his wife who is left picking up all the pieces.
I agree with you on some points
Yes- I do believe that person was dead before EMS got there. However, they said that MJ was having trouble breathing right after that injection -- why wait so long to get help? Why not call the EMS asap? I'm not sure that the body is that of MJ or that it is not. He hid from the world so much -- always covering his face. Again -- how would someone know to get that shot of him -- if the identy of the man was kept secret? I'm not saying he is not dead, but on the other hand I'm not 100% sure that he isn't. Wonder if the family is having DNA on the body? There are things that just don't add up, but the he always was "different." Many have said he used body doubles and had an army of wax replicas of himself. Really . . . how hard would it be to fake his own death if he wanted to. If he is really gone, may he rest in peace. He will be missed by his fans.
Good points, and that is the thing. It is not
a fix-all. Without making lifestyle changes, everyone will regain their weight back. My step-mom had the surgery and is over the 100-pound mark for the weight she has lost. She has cut out all breads from her diet, desserts, etc. She has made huge diet changes since, and that is why she is losing the weight and keeping it off. She also consumes a lot of protein. She has done fantastic with it though. My friend's sister had it and is having a lot of complications, but she has not followed the recommendations for after surgery either. Her son had it and has done great and is keeping the weight off.
He does bring up some good points, but -
He fails to say how all these countries offer the *free* healthcare. That is because it is not truly a free ride. Every time they pay $6 or more for a gallon of their heavily taxed gasoline they are paying for it. I know for a fact the property taxes in both Germany and England are outrageous because I have lived both places. The British also pay outrageous prices for telephone service, must register each TV they have in their home every year and pay to use it, the list goes on and on. So, while they walk out of the hospital without handing over any money, they have in fact paid for it in various other ways. Not quite sure Americans would go for some of this since we are already screaming about $3 for a gallon of gas. 
haha, I agree with you on those points! sm
I can fall asleep with my music in my ears. Only issue I would have is if they talk loud enough to be over the music, or if a movie is playing during the long flights and you can't hear the movie because they are talking so loud, otherwise I don't see it being a big deal. What I don't get, though, is they always made it sound like it interferes with the radio controls or something to have wireless laptops on or cell phones. Guess that was just another story they tell to get you to do what they want, lol.
If you do WW, go to www.dwlz.com - all the points are there for food and restaurants.
.
You can google weight watcher points
and get them over internet at sites other than weight watchers. If you have the other material, just do it that way. That is what I am doing.
I really see and feel strongly about both points of view here. sm
I will say I am a Catholic, and a divorced one. I am not practicing at this point, but I am not an unbeliever...exactly. I consider myself a gnostic Catholic, and that is a story for another day.
The so-called Christian morals we have in this country are SELF-IMPOSED. They are with all religions. I consider myself a Christian, so I don't believe in sin because well, Christ died on the cross for the forgiveness of sin...even BEFORE we think about sinning. So, some of this I don't buy into.
If anyone thinks they have the slightest idea of what God wants them to do, they need therapy! WHY would any of us think we know the mind of the Divine??? I don't care how religious you are, YOU DO NOT KNOW THE MIND OF GOD.
I was in an extremely abusive marriage. He abused me, the kids, our minds, our bodies, our hearts, our souls. I was married in the Catholic church and I am still married in the church, having a divorce without an annulment. I made the commitment to keep only to this one man and that I have done. I live celibate for a number of reasons and my spoken commitment in the Catholic church is one of them.
Their respective marriages are over and not because of each other. They are free to be together if they choose to do so. Being arrogant enough to think he knows what God would want, yes he needs therapy! I think he is a bad bet for her because he will always come right back to what God would want, has no ability to exercise the Free Will God gave him, can't think for himself and would be pretty useless as a husband. This may, in fact, be what drove his wife to kick him out! Milquetoast!
I get your point, but you lost points due to perception of slamming
aa
How About Those BEAUTIFUL CARDINALS, up by 3 points, I adore Kurt Warner!!!! happy! ,,,,,nm
nm
you can give the people the facts, but the decision making process should be left to the people
This is what our country is founded on FREEDOM OF CHOICE! I'm laughing already; you are just as mortal as the rest of us, and don' even attempt to that you've never done anything in your lifetime that was unsafe or unhealthy. NOT gonna buy it.
it is wonderful to see how many people have such strong opinions about people in debt.
I thought that the purpose of this board was to be able to post without being judged unfairly or have somebody tell you how wonderful their personal life is, and therefore you are causing their life to be less wonderful with your irresponsibility. Well, the saying "walk a mile in my shoes" is a good one in this case. Since you have no personal information about the person you are lambasting because they are looking for information on their debt, you can feel superior. Had you had personal information about them, you might act in a more human manner. Consider fighting cancer for 4 years, working and being debilitated while you do, suffering the effects of chemo, going into debt to maintain your home for your children and looking for a way out of debt SHOULD YOU EVEN LIVE THROUGH THIS!! Thank you for the kind comments. To the judgmental people I say please take a step back before you judge. You do not know who you are talking to and if you knew the personal information maybe your comments would be kinder.
I get frustrated by the double standard they use when judging people. They let certain people go sa
What do you think about the voting process?
People who go around calling other people "low class"
have their own issues in life. Ignore them. Nothing like a misplaced superiority complex to make a person feel good about themselves. Like they've never done anything gauche or made a faux pas. It must be nice for them to be so perfect and live in a glass house.
For that matter, you probably saved your piggy's life by popping that mondo zit! It could have gotten infected or something.... (yes, I have a zit popping fixation myself, but you were really descriptive on that pig zit. gag LOL)
Man, you would have appreciated the time one of my relative's popped a HUGE cyst on her face. I was standing right next to her at the time and leaned back because I knew it was going to blow. It did! Big time! All over the wall, mirror and light fixture. I'm still disgusted by the thought of it 10 years later. LOL In a revering kind of way...
All good points, good post. (nm)
xx
some people did, some people didn't. It's their choice.
x
If this helps...I know people who know people (sm)
who can make people disappear. 
Not really--I'd be lyin' if I said I never thought such things though! ;-)
IME, people don't feel sorry for fat people either
They actually have less sympathy than they do for people who have substance abuse, IME.
At any rate, I do feel sorry for Britney but the safety of her children should be everyone's first priority, then her safety. It would seem to me that all these hangers-on she has are jeopardizing that safety. It's all just very sad.
Some people just look at me
like I am crazy. You should see the looks I get when she rides on my shoulder in the car. Most people associate rats with dirty animals, etc. They are just like a hamster, only very smart animals. Plus they don't bite like hamsters or try and get away from you. They want to be around you. They are very loyal and love attention. She's my baby.
Unfortunately, she has a cyst growing under her arm now though. She is getting old, and I know her time is coming. :(
OMG! You people are bad, bad, bad!!! I'm going to
!
For me, over 25 people to buy for......
including mine and my husband's immediate families we see separately Christmas eve and Christmas day. We also visit grandparents, aunts, cousins, etc. a week later. We don't have kids yet so still spend a few hundred on each other. It is probably closer to 1500 combined for us.
What about NJ? People here act like
they're the best beaches in the world and I can assure you they are NOT. LBI is the cute nickname now given to Long Beach Island which is a dump as are most NJ beaches and everyone acts like it's the Hamptons or something. Been to NC outer banks and loved it. No comparison.
I think there need to be more people...
in the world like you! You are doing a wonderful thing and are a shining example to your children!
Pet (Dog in particular) people -
I have a Lab/Pit mix, probably 8 or 9 years old, who has a terrible problem with itching and scratching all over. I am hoping someone on this site has a solution for us.
I will tell you what we have tried that has not worked.
Benadryl has not worked. Seemed to help initially but stopped it and she shows no change.
Changing her food has not worked. Have tried all kinds of food, wheat free, have not helped.
Adding oil to her food, 1-2 tablespoons of olive oil twice a day, has not helped. Seemed to help initially but she went back to scratching.
Getting her groomed with dry skin shampoo/conditioner has not helped.
What DID help was steroid injection and prednisone pills on a tapering dose. But once the dose was tapered down, she started scratching some. I dont want her on steroids indefinitely. PLUS, the steroids made her very very aggressive and being part pitbull, that was not a good thing.
When it gets to the point that she and I are both waking up multiple times during the night, I have to go back to steroids. Before I do that, I wonder if anyone reading this has another remedy we could try before going to steroid route.
We also have a cat and I am beginning to think she may be allergic to the cat. Do you think this is possible? My vet technician told me it is possible but it would involve costly allergy testing and injections if it proves positive. Would like opinions from others before I take her for allergy testing.
Any info anyone could provide would sure be appreciated, not only by me but by my best friend who is suffering with this.
Thank you!
um, a lot of people don't go to the, uh, gym.
nm
I know 5 people who have had this...sm
1 has kept the weight they lost off.
2 had major complications after the surgery and 1 almost died - he was healthy before surgery.
4 lost weight but have regained most if not all of it. You can restretch the stomach back out by eating too much.
I like those too - I know a lot of people don't :-)
x
Yes, but LL should have people to look out for her
be watched 24/7, but LL could be and should be. She should be protected and anyone with any interest in this girl, either for financial or other, such as her mother, should be helping her better than this.
IMO there is no excuse for this. Maybe I am being harsh, but give me a break already with these celebs.
Just like with people
Recovering from surgery (procedures done with anesthesia) when they're older is harder for them, and you have to be super careful that they don't have any conditions that could be worsened by the medications. Please try everything you can before getting them declawed. I'm lucky, my cats love their scratch posts, but they also love picking at the carpet. I just buy rugs and stick them all over the place!
Those people should have given you (sm)
thank you notes BUT, when you give you have to give with a free and willing heart and not expect anything in return - even a thank you - because you will only get bitter waiting. Only give when you really want to and feel the need to and you will feel better about it I think.
re: people
Just me,
The Bible says in Jeremiah 17:9:
"The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked; Who can know it?"
It is our sin nature to commit sin and we're all born with it. I don't know what the percentage of sexual sin is, but I do know that it is getting more and more prevalent and has been around since bible days because we are all born sinners and we all need Jesus to save us. That doesn't mean that after we accept Jesus we stop sinning, but are more likely to be faithful when we know the Lord.
God bless!
Jan
Pod people.
It's the only explanation. How can you not talk to people in an environment like that?!
This really is about the right age when most people do this (sm)
I was 18 and that was 20 years ago. You cannot make her not do it. I would strongly focus right now on teaching her all the possible STDs - I mean seriously teaching her - because I got herpes from oral sex when I was 21 and did not even know you could get it that way. Just sit down with her and say, "well you have decided to do this and I don't agree with it, BUT since you are, let's look up every possible bad thing that can happen" and make sure she is extremely well informed. Even find scary pictures of HPV and look up hep B and hep C and herpes and every STD you can think of. At least then she probably will not be promiscuous and will be choosy and careful about who she is with.
and once again, people come in here and can....n/m
Why do people have to
make reference to a person other than "did that nice woman smile at you?"??? If she had been obese instead, would they have said..."Did that fat lady smile at you?" Just annoys me how insensitive people can be and how they can be quick to label a person without even knowing anything about them.
I would have been offended myself in this situation. HOW RUDE!
i know this will ^&*()$% people off
I personally would never have an abortion, but think of all the people who were aborted instead of being born. Maybe there is another reason that they were aborted and that society is better off as a whole because of it.
Yep. People just don't think - nm
nm
I know some people that took their son's
room away. He was about 13 and they had only been living in their new house a few months. His bedroom was in the basement with the rest of the family on the second floor. He loved his room soooo much. This was not really a bad kid, just wouldn't do homework, chores, picked on his sister, really just immature. They made him move into his little brother's room. His LB was 4 so he obviously loved having big bro for a roommate. Straightened him out rather quickly.
IMO, most people won't say anything
so i would suggest you definitely keep your eyes and ears open. chances are, being it was brought to your attention, there may be something to it.
Depending upon the gravity of it all, you may want to do some snooping, and/or check financial records and such. Whatever you do, 'protect yourself at all times',ie, cover your bases. Trust is so important with a spouse, but not a blind trust.
Depending upon other factors, you may or may not confront your spouse, but likely not. There, you lose the element of surprise, and if something is up, the coverup will be more elaborate and harder to penetrate.
two people
if at all possible, but I don't have any help and rarely do I need to bathe them, only time has been when they had a brief flea outbreak. But if you have no help, just hold by the ruff of the back of the neck and since mine are adults, I let there back feet touch the ground so as not to hold them there by their full weight and do the best I can with washing them with one hand. I do it in the bathtub with a sprayer I have attached to my shower head.
For people our age I think
hair should not as long as Meredith's, just turned to see her because I really do not want her show that often. No matter how nice the color, the shine, etc. I think keeping any longer only ages a person. I try to keep mine ear length, any longer only bothers me.
I think too many people....
automatically think spanking is abuse because they have become brainwashed by society, government, etc. Adults CAN draw the line and I don't think there are too many that "beat" their kids. I was also spanked as a child, never beat, and raised my kids spanking them ONLY if needed. I NEVER smacked them across the face as that is humuliating to the child and my point was never to humuliate my kids but to instill what is accepted and not accepted.
My sister-in-law raised her kids on timeout and the never ending "talks". Five minutes later they were doing the exact same thing they were timed out for. Her kids are now teenagers. They are smart mouthed, have no respect for people, she is unable to control them which in turn she lets them do what they want, bribes them to "behave", etc. They come from a loving, good home but I see nothing but trouble in the future for them as they have no boundries of what and what is not accepted.
My kids were raised getting a spank or two on the behind with a firm no (never a beating or screaming at them). They have turned into respectful, caring, responsible adults with no side affects from the spanking. I ask them to do something and they do it without back talk. They call their elders Mr or Mrs. They turned out to be well adjusted, happy kids with many friends as it was instilled into them to respect people as they would like to be respected.
Unfortunately, society and the government, etc., has gotten involved with raising OUR kids. They need to step back and worry about their own kids. I for one do not worry when my kids are out at night, they are not driving and drinking, they are not stealing, not doing drugs, etc. They are not perfect and can be a pain in the a** at times, but I know I raised them right and I raised them as I see fit - not how society would want me to raise them.
I do not spank them anymore as there is no need to. That stopped at 8 or 9 years old - they knew what was right and wrong by that time. If they do something I do not like, I now talk with them. There are times that does not work and then I take away privileges such as driving, etc.
Too many people confuse beating and spanking - spanking is not beating!!
People have to eat, so it
is easy to get addicted to food. Smoking, on the other hand, is a ridiculous act of a person who wanted to rebel when they were young and got caught by addiction.
|
