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Posted By: Get the point people! on 2006-11-07
In Reply to: I can't believe some of you!!! - Previou food stamps user

about their under the table income, assets, shiny new car/S, high def tvs, etc., etc. et cetera..... 


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You are wrong. They don't resent "anybody on aid." Only the people who abuse the system, li
lady driving the Cadillac Escalade. You are still missing the point!
They think anybody who is on aid is abusing the system. They resent the system and the people sm
who receive any aid at all.  that is very clear.
similar situation
I had a similar situation not too long ago with my mother in law. Everyone thought because I worked at home I could take my mother in law to her doctor appointments and grocery shopping and anything else she needed to do. I informed everyone that I started a job with a new transcription company and I could no longer come and go as I please during the day. I told them I am logged on to the new company's computer starting at 8 AM until 4 PM every day, and I have to be there when work comes through or the company would know I was gone and I would lose my job. It really has worked. No one bugs me during the day anymore. They finally think I have a "real job".
A similar situation (sm)
I also read your post from below and now I feel compelled to respond. My sister went through a very similar situation. She has always been overweight and her ex-husband married her that way. He gave her grief in the entire relationship about her weight, threatened divorce, the whole bit. He, too, was very picky about how the house was kept, how his meals were prepared, etc. Like you, she did what she could to make him happy, but it never seemed to be enough. It seemed the more he ragged her about losing weight, the heavier she got. He just couldn't understand that (he never had a weight issue). They separated at one point, she moved out, only to move back in several months later to try to make things work. Guess what...it didn't work. She finally made the decision to leave for good, now she is remarried and very happy. And she is still overweight but her current husband doesn't mind (he's heavy too!). I saw my sister spend many years unhappy and it is so good to see her happy now. She and her first husband didn't have children together, but her current husband has two sons that she absolutely loves.

I know the thought of divorce must be extremely scary, and I know there are children involved. But you need to be happy, and your children need you to be happy and healthy. It doesn't sound like things are going to change in your situation. I think you know you have been there long enough to figure that out. You need to do what is best for you and your kids, and if your husband can't accept and love you for who you are, then he doesn't deserve to be with you. Just my opinion!

Best of luck to you. Keep us posted on what you decide to do!
I am going through a similar situation...
My husband said the same things about me. He left 2 years ago, then cried and came back saying he made a huge mistake. He tried to be happy for the last 2 years and a month ago, left me and our 3 kids again. He was never happy. He said he did not feel anything for me except contempt basically that I have kept him from doing the things he wants to do, fish, hunt, etc. He says he will always feel a fondness for me and the time that we were happy and the fact that we have 3 wonderful kids, but he cannot be happy with me. If he does not like who you are, then let him go. Or you go, whatever you need to do. Especially since he hit you. That is one thing you should not let go. My husband never hit me, but he was getting to the point that he hated me. I still love him, but I think the best thing for us is to not be together anymore. He is being selfish (my hubby and yours). Go, and find someone someday that will love you the way you are, flaws and perfection. That is the hope that is keeping me going, that there is still someone out there who will treat us like the goddesses we are. Hang in there!! You can do it. It will not be easy or happy, but in the long run, you will probably be better off.
my situation is very similar...
i was about 40 lb overweight, didn't want to go on a 'diet' or give up my food types. I started walking 30-45 min x5 days a week which helps tremendously. I joined CalorieKing.com ($55.) a year, and did not change my food types (hardly). but i log my foods eaten/exercise on line and it calculates my calories consumed/spent. (also gives nutrient breakdown). Its been less tedious and i've lost 13 lb (3 months incl holidays!) and not trying real hard. The website has lots of helpful information and is very educational. It has helped me. I've lost inches and have fit into a smaller size jeans already. I forget for sure, but believe there is a 30-day money back guarantee (or ?less days). Might check into it. p.s. i saw results in 2 weeks as i recall.
Similar situation
Fights/arguments are coming more and more often. Split our checking account/bills up several months ago. When others ask me why I stay, I always say because of our son (7 years old). Funny thing is, husband travels a lot and my son told me just yesterday how much he enjoys it when it is just him and I. So, maybe I'm just too chicken!
My situation was very similar (SM)
except that I had such low self esteem I did stay and periodically it would happen again. I was scared to leave him because I had no family or support system to go to and had children with him. Looking back I wish I had left after the very first event but it took a long time for me to get the courage and the self respect. We are now divorced.

It's a tough decision particularly if you have children. How is he if you argue with him? Does he respect you? Lots of factors to take into consideration before you decide what to do, but I'd agree with trusting your gut.
Similar situation here
My aunt is 86, so vibrant, did all her housework, cooking, etc. Fell and broke her hip about 2 1/2 years ago and really threw her for a loop. After rehab she continued to do her own shopping although on a walker, cane occasionally. I talked to her about someone close by her to assist her and she would not listen to me. When she told me she had fell 3 times (once getting groceries in) I made appt with her doctor's office. They told me unable to talk with me- I said they did not have to - just listen and makes notes of what I had to say. I traveled out of town, met with the office manager, told them all I wanted them to know, told them this was her favorite doctor and named why she came there and lo and behold, the next visit that month with the physician he told her it was time for her to get help, maybe assisted living or with a relative, she should not be living alone anymore. She almost worships this doctor. That was last month. This month she is moving to be with her son and his wife who will provide the care she needs. There are ways to take care of things like this. I know.
I had a similar situation
5 years ago on Christmas eve I got online to find that $5K was missing from my checking acount. (oh yeah, nice christmas gift) I then got on to check my credit cards and noticed an amount for under $30 had been charged at some restaurant in a different state, and someone made an online purchase to Sears for a purchase of about 1400. Luckily bank refunded my money in 24 hours (I had proof I was never in the state - luckily the bank where the withdrawal was made had cameras, and the teller who let the woman withdraw $5000 without putting a cash hold for 48 or 72 hours or whatever she was supposed to do was fired. Credit card was cancelled and new one issues and of course investigation started.

It's getting more and more frustrating how many criminals are out there. Don't get discouraged though, it's not your fault. As they say sh!t happens. I've got some more criminal stories to tell, but got to run for now. Will post more later about some scams going on.
I am in a very similar situation (sm)
if you want to talk please email me - pmic9999@yahoo.com
My daughter going through a similar situation
and her attorney told her not to allow the child to take anything from home to his place and not to allow the child in the door with anything from his place.  This all began quite innnocently when my daughter - Mom-  kept sending favorite doll with her daughter and 9 times out of 10 the father would forget to bring back with her causing huge bedtime problems, etc., and lots of stress on the family as he did not drive - and  the burden fell to his mother to bring the favorite doll back over and you can imagine the stress.  So - the attorney decided nothing leaves the house with her and nothing comes back in - it put a stop to the slurpees and garbage Dad was sending home with her right away!!  Best of luck. 
I had a similar situation but not exact...sm
when we bought our house 2 years ago. I had to have my office sign something of that nature, but not saying I would still be working there after so much time like yours. I faxed the form letter to them and they faxed it back for my broker's records to give to underwriter. I also had to provide my 1099s from the previous 2 years. On the day of the closing, we had to sit there and wait for them to call my office one more time just to make sure I still worked there, which they didn't do with my husband. It seemed to be a pretty strict procedure but can understand why they would. We also refinanced about 8 months after moving to get a better rate, but didn't have any problems because we used the same broker. Good luck!
Well, have a granddaughter, similar situation
never hear from her, in same town, no calls, no visits. She graduated high school this year- I got invite - did not go, my gift nada. Why should I put myself out if others don’t seem to care about me??
similar situation a while back....sm
I blew a fit years ago and just told my husband that I'd rather be consulted about any plans than to be informed after the fact considering we're in this relationship until death do us part....(a cleaver unto thy husband came to mind, but that was cancelled by the thou shalt not kill clause).  Yeah, I was hot, but he got the message and we've lived happily ever after.    Cat      
My neice had a similar situation....
My vet and hers said feed her what she will eat and that there was nothing wrong with boiled chicken, veggies, etc., and add a vitamin to her diet. Many animals are fed "people" food as their daily diet and are perfectly healthy. In this case, you are trying to sustain her health until her mom gets home. My vet believes most dry foods on the shelves aren't healthy. I try to buy Royal Canin or Pet Promise foods but they do cost more.
I just recently got out of a similar situation
Although it had many other fatal flaws in it, one of them was the fact that the majority of the shoulders he cried on were either women he had once had relationships with or women who wanted to have relationships with him. These were the women that when we had a fight, he would call the second I was out the door. I hate to say that single men and single women can't be friends, this was always just something that made me uncomfortable. Maybe it was intuition, maybe it was just my own insecurity. He denied there was anything to it...just friends he said...in the past he said...until he ended up inviting one of them to a BBQ he and some friends were having (he needed someone to pick up some beer because it started before I could get there). Her chin hit the floor when I showed up and he swooped me up and planted one on me. After she attempted several well-aimed barbs my direction for a few hours in the afternoon, she finally could hold back no longer and unleashed her venom on him....telling him that she had assumed she was his date for the BBQ and wondering what I was doing there.

To a degree, I do believe him that he had no romantic interest in these women- they were ego strokers for when we were fighting to reaffirm his manhood. However, he also drank to excess, so I always worried just how much stroking his ego (and other things) might accept with active enticement. Of course, the BBQ wench was just one of many, and between his femmes and the unholy alliance/reliance he has with his drunk-azz cousin, after a year and a half I could take no more, grabbed up my dogs, and headed home to Normalville.

So congrads to your DD. While she may hurt now, believe me when I say that it would have gotten no better and ended up totally messing with her own self-esteem.
Similar situation....(long and babbling, lol)
My sister's neighbor got into a heated argument with his wife, which caused her to leave the house with their small children. She called 911 from her cell phone and asked if they could dispatch an officer to do a well-check on her husband. I should point out my sister lives in a rural area with everyone on 5-acre parcels of land, so she neither heard the argument nor saw the responding PO show up to talk to Jerry.

She did, however, hear a huge shotgun blast in the early evening but, being in a rural area with rattlesnakes, etc., didn't think much about it.

The wife came home the next day and fortunately was ahead of her children when she entered her house and the first thing she saw was what was left of her husband. He had apparently used a deer rifle to take himself out shortly after the PO had left the night before.

When the area was released by the authorities after their investigation, she had some family members go in and pack up her things. I don't believe she ever went back into the house herself. She immediately listed it for sale.

A few months later, a new owner was in the home, having relocated to the area after a 'personal tragedy' in another town. During the course of doing yard work one day, one of the neighbors stopped by to chat. In the course of conversation, this neighbor brought up Jerry and how he had suicided in the house.

The new owner was horrified. As it turns out, the 'personal tragedy' they had moved away from was that their own son, who was about the same age as Jerry, had also committed suicide via gunshot in their home. They had no idea about the history of their new home or that just a few months before the previous owner had taken his own life in their new abode.

There was talk of suing the real estate company/agent for lack of disclosure (this happened in CA), but I don't know whatever became of it. The new owners immediately relisted the home when they found out its history and apparently left the area.

Since there was talk of a lawsuit and settlements, I'm assuming CA must have that disclosure law as well.

While I'm not sure knowing a suicide had occurred in a home I was interested in purchasing would dissuade me, I'd still like all of the information above board and out in the open so I could make an informed decision. I think we should all be entitled to that.
Similar situation, my hubby drives 1 hr 45 mins to work from house and sm
he suggested 2 nights a week staying at a hotel that his company would pay for if the company apartment was full. I say company apartment "lightly" as it is a room above the office and just has bed, AC window unit. At first I was hesitant but then I drove it one way in the morning and again in 5 o'clock traffic and said you must be nuts! He gets up at 4:30 am to be at work by 6:30.
Many people do this in this situation and I cannot blame them.............nm
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Wii system sm

I am so happy. Live in NE. My DIL inquired of a small local game store in a small mall when they would be in, they told her Tues. and to be there when they opened. She appeared and no one else was there, called me and said she was leaving as the shipment had not arrived and she waited alone for an hour. I told her to shop around in the little mall and keep looking for the brown UPS truck. She did and when the truck appeared at the small game store, she went over and acquired 1 of only 3 shipped. Another lady showed up, called her sister and they got the only 3 that the company shipped. This is how they are getting people, they' re limiting the shipments. At least this little store told her what day they come in, although only 3 arrived.


I asked at a Target down the street when Wii's would be in and they were very rude, "We get them, when we get them, don't know, Maa'm, you just have to keep coming in."


Motto of my story: Smaller is better. So happy, perhaps you can try the smaller game shops who will tell you when they're coming in. Since so many are looking, thought I would share our success story. The kids will have the Wii as well as the guitar that goes with it, thanks to the little guy store. I know Christmas is not only about the gifts, but I'm happy we got something the kids really wanted this year as they both take guitar lessons. Happy MIL


the system
In my opinion, I would not bother talking to any doctors or the school. The very, very last thing your son needs is for you to think something is wrong with him enough to drug him, maybe even for life.

There is one other resource:
Goertzel, V., Goertzel, M.G., Goertzel, T.G. & Hansen, A.M.W. (2004). Cradles of eminence: Childhoods of more than seven hundred famous men and women, 2nd edition. Scottsdale: Great Potential Press.

Based on this book of extraordinary and brilliant people, a happy childhood and a good mom don't make you successful. It is just the opposite. Look at any president, including the current one...not a happy childhood, but there they are busting their butts. We want our kids to bust their butts too, but it does not seem to work that way.

Read the book anyway and at least you will know that it is not your fault.

Our school system already has a
dress code in place, no belly shirts, shorts and jeans have to be a certain length, no huge baggy jeans on boys, etc. I know for a fact this is being in enforced in most of the schools becuase not only do I transcribe, I also substitute. My niece's parents were called over shorts that were to short. My son also had to change into his gym shirt because he was wearing a (green) T-shirt from Octoberfest with a beer mug (in all white) on it. That was my fault, I stupidly did not think anything of it but would not have let him wear it had I realized what it was advertising. My kids and so many other do follow the rules. I don't think they should be penalized for the few that don't. We live in a small town so we don't have many of the same problems that bigger cities have. At the first of 3 forums the other night, the auditorium was packed and not a single person spoke in favor of this. I would like to know how this will improve our education system.
I have a point system...

My kids love to come to Wal-Mart with me on the weekend and so if they get X amount of points for the week they get to come to Wal-Mart and get a little goodie.  If they get X amount of points above that, they get two little goodies.  For letting me work in peace I give two points, versus the one they get for everything else, so that acts as an incentive to keep out of my office.  If they come in while I'm working they lose two points.  This has worked pretty well thus far.  For your kids the incentive might be a different kind of treat, but try it and see how it works for you!


 


Mainly because I am fed up with the school system here. sm
He is in the 1st grade for his second time now and still very far behind in my opinion. Teachers last year felt he needed held back and I agreed, but it is just no better this year so I just pulled him out. At this point, I hope I can get him caught up! I have priced cirriculums, but really need to wait until after the first of the year to purchase with the holidays right now so I wanted something to get him going in the meantime. He has dyslexia and ADHD and the public school setting is just not a great learning environment for him. He needs more one on one attention and help than he is getting at school with 30+ kids per teacher.

I also found this site. Any opinions on if you think it is worth joining? I think it is $19.95/mo.

http://www.time4learning.com/aboutUs.htm
Yes, that's what's wrong with the system

That's exactly my point.  It's wrong on any level.  It was obviously an unfortunate accident that no one should benefit from.  If you daughter needs counseling to overcome this, then by all means take her and ask the dog owner to pay your copay.  I think it was very reasonable that the dog owner offered to pay your copay from the hospital bill.  You want revenge, not compensation. 


Something about this story doesn't make sense.  Your daughter comes running home dripping with blood and they had to pull the dog off her hand, but yet nothing was done with the dog.  The dog's owners are so unreasonable and yet they're offering to pay your out-of-pocket expense.  Your daughter is completely traumatized by all of this, and all you can think about is getting an attorney to sue for her pain and suffering.  Again, call what it is.


Probably because our judicial system keeps
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I do believe it is the same storm system s/m

Not sure when it turns to ice though.  If I remember from the radar last night, looked like southwest to northwest Ohio is going to get hit with this too.  Not sure about Sunday's storm yet.  I tried to pull up the radar, but it isn't showing for tomorrow yet. 


My daughter is supposed to be driving up from Dayton tomorrow and going back on Sunday, but I warned her not to.  She just might have to stay!


Have you used a tooth whitening system?
Like Crest Whitestrips or something else? Anything other than having the dentist do it? (That's so expensive!)
Yes - Rembrandt Whitening System. sm
It works beautifully. I am a smoker, unfortunately, and my teeth are actually white, no stains, and you could never tell I smoke. At least, that's what many people have said.

It is a gel system with a mouth piece. I love it. Cheaper than Zoom in the dentist office.
As a product of the USA school system, yes I have.

Nothing more than daycare in my opinion.  We should be looking at how other countries run things as far as the education system.  Why is there no school in summer anyway?  Wasn't the original reason so that kids could be with their families to work the harvest?  School should be year 'round and the kids should come out of it SMART.


Product of USA school system.....
Both my children are a product of the USA school system and they both graduated with top honors, high SAT scores, got scholarships for college. It's what you put into it. If students don't make the effort, or parents, what do they expect the results will be?
You definitely need a strong support system sm
right now. If being closer to your family will help you trough this then that is what you should do. You will be a better mother to your children if you are able to handle this better. About the money, since your child will be in first grade that should cut down on the cost of preschool. I am sure there are wonderful other speech therapists out there. Listen to your heart and "Go Home" and be surrounded by people that love and care for you.
Your state has a kickin' cam system!

I just spent about 15 minutes at this site: http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/traffic/default.aspx


lookin' at all the cameras and the different weather situations!  Wow--that's incredible the HUGE differences in weather!  "The man" has cameras EVERYWHERE--and that's just the ones we can see on the internet!  


 


Sounds like the legal system
is trying to leave the discipline to the boy's parent. Is that so bad?
I did the "point" system several months
ago that I had done a long time ago and it does work. I lost 18 pounds in 3 weeks. Just stick with it.
I have a filtered water system on

my fridge.  It tastes better than any bottled water I have bought, it is free, and I don't have to worry about the plastic bottles to throw away or recycle. 


I once saw a thing on TV that said that bottled water is no healthier for you than tap water.  You might look into a Brita pitcher or something.  I think it would be cheaper than constantly buying bottled water.


I tried a system restore too, but wouldn't work.
I've had a lot of problems, even problems just getting used to the new set up. My Quick Look constantly freezes up on me too. It's very frustrating.
She needs to find out more about the system, and just how lucky she is. She is a misgruntled sm
middle classed woman, resenting any hands up those below her get.  She needs to count her blessings.  If she is not eligible for food stamps, then she is way ahead of the game. 
Aquasana shower filter system

Does anyone have this?  It sounds great and I'm thinking about getting it. Curious if anyone uses this or something similar.  tia


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they have some system now that they can sign up for to track who views sm
their myspace. not sure how it works because i didn't sign up for it, but i see it posted all the time. i view my daughter's friends sites all the time. noone has said anything to me yet about it, but i do communicate with a lot of them on there as they are friends and any friends of my children are friends with me as well. they know i wouldn't going ratting off on them unless it was something majorly in the wrong.
You can't force someone to learn so that they leave the system
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,,,use your support system, and find a lawyer who
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The court system is a rotational door
There was enough evidence. Even the mother who got the children back had her own father testifying she did drugs, lousy mother, on and on. I am so glad I don’t have to put up with that crap anymore. This is where the welfare $$$ went, to a person who did not have enough get up and go to see the kids off to school in the morning. What a waste but lawdy, lawdy, make sure these mothers get those kids back. Glad I am not involved in the court system anymore.
Our school has an excellent system in place - sm
Every year we fill out a million forms that have to be turned in on the first and second days of schools or they get grades knocked down----they then call and email you when they have anything going on. When they first implimented it last year I got 5 phone calls (have 2 kids in school). They worked out the bugs and now I get one call and one email. It is all automated and works quite well. I also work PT for the school so they they know my face and name so that helps too. The school policy is not to let any elementary or primary school child off the bus unless a parent is there. If the driver does not see anyone the kid goes back to the school. Parents get upset with it too, if they are too lazy to come out to the bus stop, then they have to get in their car and drive to the school (not a short jaunt) and pick up their kid. Very safety conscious here. (or lawsuit fearful!)
Sadly they would probably be better off in the foster care system.
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I wouldn't want to. I'm angry that our system is set up so that this innocent man could not b
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Could be issues with 9-1-1 service and if you have a security system (sm)
I think most home security systems require a land line to work. There are some possible issues with being able to call 9-1-1 without a land line - in case you can't talk and tell them where you are.
sad we have to battle the school system that we pay for, but has she been tested for dyslexia? sm
sounds like a repeat of my daughter who is now in 5th grade and it has been a battle every since. in fact, i posted message on here few months ago regarding her. she also has dyslexia, which is quite common and sounds like your daughter may have too. we had it in our family so i knew she had it given her symptoms. school says they can't test til 3rd grade. hello, who can catch up when they are that far behind? i fought it enough i finally got someone to say, we can test earlier if the parents' request it. so they did and it has helped her tremendously til we moved this year and now she gets a "video" dyslexia class that sux and doesn't help. i am not sure how to continue battling it from this point. at her prior school though she went from failing to A's and B's with dyslexia help and extra time on assignments, verbal reading, etc. with her IEP.
I'd say yes they really did abuse
the 'emergency' but rather than contacting an attorney I would just try to recall where you might have given her contact information - call them and change ASAP and I would not even fill in that spot in the future citing your experience in these two situations and the problems it caused and if they fuss - give them a phoney name and addy and let it go.  I think it is there for your safety really, secondly for them to collect should you not pay a bill - I have only been called once in my 55 years as my son got behind on his credit union car payment and they traced me down through 3 counties - so think you definitely had an unusual experience.
Abuse

Call your local shelter and they will advise you on ways to leave safely. NEVER take abuse - physically, verbally, or mentally from anyone. Forget the church kid, learn to love yourself, and lead by example for your children. If you act like a doormat, do not be suprised when you get stepped on!


You need a long time on your own before you are ready to think about entering another relationship. You are not out of your present relationship yet, but you can be if that is your decision. Best wishes to you.


Lilly