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Needing A Mental/Emotional Jump Start

Posted By: LONGLONG POST Feeling The Pressure on 2009-06-18
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You good people are probably as good to ask as anybody although if we had a philosophy board, it might be better. My question is Why? Why are we killing ourselves? And I mean this in the broader sense than just the MT industry. I have an ex (46 years old) who is an alcoholic. He lives waaaaaaay out in a very rural area. He owns his own house, land, and a lot of horses, something he acquired 20 years ago when he had a really really good job. He has a regular income now of about $1000/month from CDs, primarily funded from an industrial accident about 10 years ago.

Anyway, neither he nor any of his friends work. They sit around, start drinking at noon and light their first joint, and just drink steadily until passing out around 2 AM. They play horseshoes, cribbage, shoot pool, shoot the breeze, joy ride, poach deer, etc. His house is kind of a dump (jiggle the toilet handle, turn on the tub water with pliers, no windows that open) and lots of projects undertaken while drunk, some done, many half finished. As they say, the Lord provides for fools and drunks, and that seems to be the case here, as he never goes hungry, has never had to do without his vices because of money, etc. Somehow, something always falls into his lap when he needs it, and I'm not talking $20...he'll rent a chunk of land to a farmer for several K and gets all caught up, or he sells some old fencing and gets a grand. He bought a couple of timeshares years and years ago so he takes these great vacations a couple of times a year where the lodging is only $150/week.

I had to leave because I just couldn't stand the lifestyle (I don't drink, smoke pot, or shoot pool), but I'm wondering why. I'm killing myself working 2 jobs to keep the roof over my head and maintain even a meager quality of life, and while I don't have the drunken projects he does, my house is no palace. If it weren't for my kids chipping in and helping, my car would have been reclaimed by the finance company a couple months ago.

So I'm having a hard time hanging on to my motivation lately. There's probably some jealousy involved, but it's also making me wonder why I bother. If I really wanted to, he would probably take me back and there are moments that I wonder 'Why not?'. What is wrong with the way he is living? Footloose and fancy free without a care in the world?

How do you find the strength/will to go on plugging away when it would be so easy to fall into the idiot/drunk category and just the Lord take care of everyday existence like he does for the ex?


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For those people with school aged children when do vacations start to dwindle and you start getting
ready for school.  I usually take a vacation when things slow down at the end of Summer and I am just wondering when in August most people start getting into school things and less vacations are taken. 
i need some emotional support

Not sure how much of DH yelling I can take.  I work 2 jobs.  Yesterday I had to put in 5 hours for one.  DH is supposed to help with the kids.  Well, his level of helping yesterday was just sitting in his chair and yelling at them to stop doing this or that.  He said about 5 times that my 15-mo had a dirty diaper.  I had the attitude like “well go change it, I am working.”  He never changed it and I don’t know how long she stayed in that dirty diaper but by the time I got to changing her, she was red.  Then I went to help my 5 year old with her Valentines.  She did 20 Valentines and she insisted on doing them herself. It took her 2 hours but she did it all.   I was proud of her and amazed.  Dh kept hollering for us to get through because he wanted some Ice cream.  I told him since he can drive he can go get it himself.  He got mad and started yelling.  My 15 MO kept bothering us.  I got some toys to try to help distract her and it would work for a little bit but then she would pester us some more.  I told dh to keep her distracted and he shouted “WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO.”  WHY ARE YOU ACTING THIS WAY?  WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU?   I told dh that she acts like she is hungry, has she had anything to eat.  “she has been eating popcorn all after noon”  I knew better than to ask him anymore so I got up and started to go find her something to eat and he yelled “SIT DOWN”  and gave me a look that could kill. 


 


I told dh that I just don’t know how to deal with him anymore.  I feel he is angry with me or resentful.  When we first got married, his Mommy was practically sleeping in between us. She balanced our check book, she went through or mail to see what bills had to be paid, still does, she has to know everything about what we are doing.  She and dh are best friends.  MIL went on all the vacations with us and it was always where dh wanted to go and MIL always loved where dh wanted to go.   When I had the kids, it had to be all about her.  I told dh thiat if this sick business did not stop, I was leaving.  It stopped.  Poor MIL don’t get to see her DGK anymore.  Boo hoo hoo, (coming from dh and MIL).  I am so mean.   This is all another story. 


 


One minute dh says he loves me, then next he treats me like this.  My family, unfortunately, loves dh.  He doesn’t act like this around them.  He is no niceeee and MIL is so niceeee.


 


I have to go.  I got to get my kids up and ready for school.


Emotional support
Sounds like you are carrying the load yourself. It's amazing how men are so insensitive and wrapped up in themselves. You basically have to hit them over the head with a baseball bat to get any sense into them. Obviously, if you were working and you have little ones running around and needing care, how hard can it be for him to jump in there and do what needs to be done? Hang in there. Maybe you can try talking to him and spelling out for him what you expect from him when you are working, especially with the kids. Good luck!
I was so emotional did not notice and SM
made mistakes in mine as well.  No problem. I think we got our point across. I wish you and me could team up and wipe some of the needless suffering and abuse out. 
Emotional Blackmail

Emotional Blackmail is all this is.  People use it to control and manipulate and they get away with it because it has worked in the past.  We have a similar situation in our family (not husband) and it is emotionally and physically draining.  I really feel for you because I know how these types of people can consume your life.  You know the answer to your question, it's just how to make it happen.  That's the hard part.  It's almost like we let it happen because we are just exhausted and we know something should have been done years ago.  Sometimes we feel it's our fault too because we allowed it.  Boot him out!  He will cry fake tears, cut himself with a toothpick, swallow some Tums, but eventually, if you hold your ground, he will catch on!  


You seem to be a very emotional, overimpulsive
person. I counted over 20 exclamation marks at the end of your 1-word post. Is this neceassary?

Still, I believe as a parent or friend or whatever you can use whatever expression you want to use, but for a teacher it is NOT o.k.
It is imposing and intruding.
When teacher say that they sometimes address the pupils with terms of endearment, because they do hot remember their names (?), there is a question for this: 'What is your name?'
It seems to me that teachers who call the pupils by 'endearing' expressions, need some endearing themselves!
Men just are not the emotional creatures that women are--sm
like another poster stated, if he was not like this before marriage, he never will be. However, you should still talk to him. He cannot do on his own what he does not know you want from him. He will never do it *on his own* because he does not know that is what you expect. He is not a mind reader. If you don't talk to him about this, you are going to end up resentful of him and your relationship will not last. You sound like you want him to treat you like a baby instead of a wife. Maybe you should reevaluate what your expectations are from a marriage.
blatant emotional abuse
You say he is out and about all the time with work or just doing fun stuff.

Talk to an attorney then, when he leaves the next time, have the separation papers filed and put his rear end out. He has probably already talked to an attorney if he is trying to talk YOU into taking the kids and leaving.

A judge is going to be more favorable toward keeping the kids in their home.

His abusive behavior toward you touches on the kids emotional health too.

Give him the boot girl!
11-year-old boys - always this emotional? sm
My son is 11 and he seems to cry lately about little things...he has to take a shower, he gets teary-eyed.  He can't find the shirt he wants to wear because it is in the laundry....tears up.  He argues about not wanting to take a shower, and is extremely picky about which clothes he will wear. He wants to let his hair grow longish, which is fine with me, but he then wants to brush it all into his face and almost hide behind it.  The last time I had him get his hair just trimmed a little he cried beforehand and said "I'm already fat, I at least want my hair to be cool."  He is barely chubby, not fat at all, and brushing his hair in his face doesn't look cool.  I am all for kids having "cool" hairstyles and I buy him the type of clothing he wants, but he decides a week later that he no longer likes the shirt or shoes I just bought a week before when he really liked it.  Is this normal?
Needing a hug
Lost a family pet yesterday.  Found my 9-year-old cat lying dead on the floor.  Don't know what happened to him.  He was mostly an outdoor cat, and he outlasted the usual lifespan of most outdoor cats, so I'm thankful for all the years we did have with him.  We'd found him abandoned along the roadside when he was probably only about 8 weeks old.  How do they manage to wrap themselves around your heart and inflict such pain when it's their time to go? 
Also needing a car soon
Also interested in others' thoughts on cars; have a ྜྷ that is now burning oil, converter (2nd) is going, etc.  Trying to hang in there till a couple of debts are paid off before taking on a payment. Keep hearing how the auto industry is in trouble but can't tell that from the prices, including certified used.
Emotional upset and stress. Such as reading MT
x
In MHO when they start asking its time to start explaining.
My daughter and I started discussing the basics in like second or third grade.

Good luck it was much harder for me with my son.
Needing meds
I think just the opposite - it's the rest of you who could use the meds - or at least not be so judgemental - but I have found that this board - regardless of the subject has quite a few very rude, mean and just downright B***tchy women - sorry if you were offended, but it was my right to BF as long as I chose - and until you work hard enough to get a law passed against it - it's something you must deal with - I think that most of you are jealous of the fact that this is not something that you could do - or wanted to do - maybe you are feeling jealous because my kids are great - we have great relationships and maybe your kids don't even speak to you unless they need money - Most of you would give anything to have a family as close and functional as mine.  However, it is something that you will never know.  God has been very good to us - and thankfully I followed his Word and not yours.
Needing help with things?

Going back to the housekeeper subject, I found this neat site www.domystuff.com


It lets you post what you need done and people place bids for getting the work and then you can rate them and see their ratings.


I'm going to give this a try and thought I would share!


Needing help with this dry skin...
I have used Vaseline on my face, lips and am using bathing soaps like Dove but when I change my jeans have flakes of dried skin all over the place. What can I use as an all over body lotion that can get help me with this extremely dry skin? Thanks.
275 isn't that huge either - Now 475, I could see needing sm
a non-human MRI machine but 275? There are football players who fit that description.
needing money
Interpretation:

You would like to tap the child support unpaid, but riding in the car is a big watch your wallet warning, and the $2 is about what you will be getting out of ex.

You will have to find something else to hock besides your kid.
I personally think the funeral is what makes you an emotional wreck.
Funerals compound the grief for me. The dark lighting, the sad music, the morbid displaying of a dead body in the casket! No way for me. I hope to God my parents don't want funerals.
Memorial service, no problem.
I think the traditional funeral service is antiquated and just makes things worse.

Sounds really young and needing
attention as maybe not getting it from hubby or the wrong kind. Anybody paying attention would probably make her feel better but definitely wrong in her case, married and should take with a grain of salt, in other words don't take a flirt seriously.
Migraines, anyone? Needing information
Have friend with migraines. She was told by her physician since she takes birth control pills she cannot be prescribed something for the headaches. Anyone know anything about this? TIA
Have an older furkid needing to fatten her up
I have an older girl (cat) who takes medicine for her thyroid and also something to stimulate her appetite. She is eating like a pig but she is skin and bones. In our years she would probably be in her early 90s. She stays more at the feeding station than my other 2 younger boys and yet she is some thin and bony. I do not want to have anyone say, well take her to the vet because she has been there when she had a stroke, doing fine from that, and I would not want him to say end of life, put her to sleep because she, I feel is truly in no pain, no crying out, no wimpering, only unsteady a little on her feet and so thin. Does anyone who have furkids have any suggestions to foods or whatever I could give her to fatten her up some? She is so tiny, bony and pitiful but she is still my little baby. Thanks a lot!
you might be interested in this. I have a feeling we'll all be needing it.
99 Cent Store Cookbook
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Artichoke Spinach Bake on Homemade Pizza Bread
Green Beans Au Gratin
Chicken Tetrazinni
Pinot Noir Poached Pear Tart
This handy guide is filled with sample menus, a glossary of cooking terms, and space for creating recipes of your very own. Each recipe includes an estimated cost and helpful kitchen hints, such as uses for recycled milk cartons and how to freeze egg whites. Never again will finances be an excuse for not entertaining with pizzazz. With The 99¢ Only Stores Cookbook, feeding a family, playing host to five or six, or even simply cooking for one at home needn't cost a small fortune ever again!

Needing some gift ideas for seniors....
Using the ole brain and trying to come up with either male or female gift items. Having dinner at my home and playing some simple games like White Elephant so I need to get about 3 gifts for the prizes. No toiletries (spelling?), thought about gift card for restaurant already, any ideas? Thanks.
I'm sure there must be a mental problem - (SM)
She may have been just fine last summer when she made her last NASA space flight. But things can take a turn suddenly. She may already have a problem like OCD or depression that she was on meds for, and suddenly gone off them, or else the "love triangle" thing might have been stronger than the meds. So many different possibilities. Look at her "before" and "after" pictures. She almost looks like she's on crack or heroin in that mug shot. Could be hooked on painkillers, uppers, or ? I'm trying not to rush to judgement, but I also wonder why someone would throw away such a seemingly charmed life. But when a person is having a mental problem, they often can't see through all the "noise" in their head, and can't weigh consequences. Anyway, it's a shame, but how lucky for the woman she was after, that she wasn't thinking clearly enough to actually get the job done.
mental aspect also
figure out who is a pain in your butt! Sometimes it is referred pain!
…Had nothing to do with mental incompetence
Fraud yes but how do we not know the above is not verging on the same?
I really think there is a mental issue going on
She is actually quite a bit older than us. I am in my late 20s and my husband is in his mid-30s and this woman is 50. We met her years ago when we used to work together.

She wouldn't tell us exactly why she lost her job and was very, very vague in the details. I have a feeling that there is more going on than she would reveal to us, but I really don't even care at this point.

I honestly do believe that her husband is caught right in the middle of all of this, esepcially since we haven't heard a single word from him in weeks. She was very, very nasty in her email that she sent, which included several personal attacks, all of which were completely untrue accusations.

This is a direct quote from her email that she sent today:
"i should not be surprised because u dont take care of ur own financial commitments either and often get in over your head. If you had gotten urself into a mess financially i would have helped you out because we were friends, i now expect that you can deliver the money you owe us over here at the soonest possible time."

The woman can't even spell! Also, she doesn't know anything about our finances. We own a house, 2 cars, always work LOTS of extra hours, and always pay our bills. For her to say that is absolutely insane. She is just in such a desperate state and is beyond frustrated because we refuse to pay her anything.

Oh, and she even said in her email that we owed him $456!!! Where did that amount come from?!?! Yesterday it was $300, which was still outragenous!

Sorry for the long vent...again! LOL
Don't jump...
Please don't jump to a hasty decision.  Like has been said before, think everything through before making a rash decision you might soon regret.  Dr. Phil says, *if you think the marriage is hard, just wait til the divorce.*  I've been on both sides of this fence, without going into detail, and it can work out.  And honestly, I had the same sort of relationship your husband says he did; we did see each other for a while, but did not have sex, didn't even come close.  Please, email me if you need to talk, because truly, I have been there...it can work out and make you and your marriage even stronger...cross my heart!
get up and jump up and down
Go take a walk for 10 minutes or so. Good luck!
Ok, needing answers about furkids - baths to be exact
I have 2 boys- 1 has been bathed here recently and knows the ropes- he has a brother who is wild and hairy and has not had a bath in quite some time. Can anyone tell me- (and don’t tell me carefully!! ) how do you restrain a cat for a bath?
I think I really am going mental w/isolation thing.

I guess it's an occupational hazard, isn't it?  I have these bouts where I just withdraw and don't want nuttin' to do with no one--sometimes for weeks a a time, then I get almost manic and freeze up physically and mentally, which can last for days, and then one day I'm happy as a clam and glad to be alive...then the cycle repeats.


I'm geographically isolated anyway but this 'career' is just mentally crippling when you are a person who needs to be forced to get up and out anyway or else they might sink into a depression, ya know?


I'm actually starting to get mild panic attacks if I have to drive anywhere--how f'd up is that?!  This not where I had planned to be at this time of my life--or ever for that matter!  Serious midlife cris going on here in my head, so, yeah you're not alone. 


If there were more opportunities in my neck of the woods, I would so be out of this business.  But, alas, if I leave it's a MAJOR step backwards and I won't do that. You know what though, now that I'm thinking about it....I am a halfway decent cook, and did okay in chemistry class, and there sure are a lot of folks strung out on meth 'round these parts.  I'm thinkin' maybe I should open up a meth lab and go into business for myself!  It sure would get me back in touch 'with the people!'



I had a guy jump right in front of me
As if he didn't see me.  I didn't want to make a scene, but I thought it was very rude.  I absolutely hate cell phone usage in public.  It is very annoying.  I will purposefully make noise to interrupt.  I think cell phone usage while driving should be banned as well.  Most people are not paying the least bit of attention when they are driving and talking on a cell phone.  It is worse than driving drunk in my opinion. 
I'm not going to jump on your case about this sm

But I wonder why you think these kids need to be told now? Has something happened that makes you think that someone besides their parents might let it slip? If that is the case, then maybe you need to talk to the parents about it and tell them that so-and-so found out and isn't good at keeping secrets, or whatever the case may be.


In any case, if you talk to anyone about this, talk to the parents.


Sorry to jump in late, but something else to try...
Massage therapy! I go every week, but during my PMS days (and I get it BAD!!) I make sure I tell my therapist (been going to her for over 4 years now and she really knows me) I am having PMS. She does some extra focus on my head and neck area for that session and I promise you it helps relax me more and does take some of it away. One time I went to her with severe cramps in tears and shaking with pain and they went away completely before I got off her table. She also tells me to focus on my breathing when I find myself getting bent out of shape. Easier said than done, I know. Best of luck to you. :-)
I'm gonna have to jump out on a ...
limb here and say that you don't deserve the two kids that you have since you aren't talking to one because of money and you get mad at your other child for calling you and asking if you are upset.  OMG......seriously.  Get your head checked!
Jump off a bridge already.
I find myself wishing that toward all the pedophiles I've been typing about lately.  My heart just aches for their victims.  I'm so disgusted by what they do, have done, that I just about puke by the end of the notes.   As soon as this shift is over, I'm taking a hot shower to help wash away my disgust. 
Jump rope.
nm
Well just jump in there with your concerns..
All men are created equal. It is understood that the "women" are included.

I just want to jump in here and perhaps clarify.
I think it's a common belief that the Catholic Church believes marriage outside the Church is sinful. Actually, the Church labels it as non-sacramental. The Catholic Church makes no ruling on the legality of marriages. In other words, if you've followed the laws where you live, and you have a marriage license, you're married civilly. Divorce, also, is a civil matter that is dealt with in the courts.

Catholic annulments, for instance, do not determine whether or not a couple was actually married, but whether or not the couple entered into a sacramental marriage.

A sacramental marriage must take place in a Catholic church, is witnessed by a priest or deacon, etc. Couples married outside of the Church can receive what is commonly called a "blessing", but it is actually their entering into the sacramental state of marriage according to the Church. If their married according to the law where they live, then they are civilly married, and the Church recognizes it as a legal marriage.

Some people consider it a lot of hoop-de-doo, I suppose. But it's part of the faith and tradition of the Catholic Church, and so it should be respected in the same way that people respect the Amish living apart from the modern world.

So, yes, if a couple is married outside of the Catholic Church, the church recognizes their marriage as legal. It doesn't recognize it as sacramental.

It's a topic that others explain better than I. So I apologize if I've actually made the issue more confusing.
how do I access the mental health page?
I just came across it a few seconds ago.  Thanks!
Check out the mental health board
:)
obviously you don't have a personal experience with mental illness
she is very sick and she needs help, which I am hoping she is getting. Mental illness is like any other disease, cancer, diabetes, etc., but there is a horrid stigma attatched to it. She can't help being sick just like anyone else can't help having cancer. It's called a chemical imbalance...when will people realize this is just as real and the affected can't help it or just "get over it"???
Ways to maintain mental health...

Hope these make someone laugh...  Makes me wish I worked in an office away from home sometimes...


Ways To Maintain Mental Health

1.  At lunch time, sit in your parked car with sunglasses on and point a hair dryer at passing cars.  see if they slow down. 

2.  Page yourself over the intercom.  Don't disguise your voice.

3.  Every time someone asks you to do something, ask if they want fries with that.

4.  Put your garbage can on your desk and label it "In."

5.  Put decaf in the coffee maker for 3 weeks.  Once everyone has gotten over their caffeine addictions, switch to espresso.


6.  In the memo field of all your checks, write "For sexual favors." (I actually do this one!)
 
7.  Finish all your sentences with "In accordance with The Prophecy."

8.  Don't use any punctuation

9.  As often as possible, skip rather than walk.

10.  Ask people what sex they are.  Laugh hysterically after they answer. 

11.  Specify that your drive-through order is "To Go."

12.  Sing along at the opera.

13.  Go to a poetry recital and ask why the poems don't rhyme.
 
14.  Put mosquito netting around your work area and play tropical sounds all day.

15.  Five days in advance, tell your friends you can't attend their party
because you're not in the mood.

16.  Have your co-workers address you by your wrestling name, "Rock Hard."

17. When the money comes out of the ATM, scream "I Won!, I Won!" 

18.  When leaving the zoo, start running towards the parking lot, yelling "Run for your lives, they're loose!!"

19.  Tell your children over dinner. "Due to the economy,   we are going to have to let one of you go."

20.  Share this with someone else... its called therapy.


Question regarding mental retardation and other issues

My sister adopted a boy back in 1989 when he was just about a year old (from Paraguay).  He's now 19 years old and she said he is awful and getting worse and worse.  She said he's horrible to be around and it's getting to a point where she doesn't want to be around him anymore.  He was diagnosed before he ever went into grade school with mental retardation.  Through the years my mom and sister were always defensive about it telling people that's he's not retarded, he's "special".  Anyway....here it is 19 years later and he is getting worse and worse.  Sis just called me from Maine on her last day of vacation and said he's the worst he's ever been.  She said he has mood swings, happy one second miserable another.  He won't let anyone touch the remote control and all week they had to watch what he wanted otherwise they were in screaming matches in the room.  Whenever there is a thunder or lightening storm (which on the east coast is a monthly occurrence) he goes absolutely nuts...meaning, he runs around their house screaming at the top of his lungs "make it stop, make it stop" "tell God I'll day anything he wants, just make it stop", then he runs around banging his head against the wall (btw - it rained every day they were on vacation).  I went back 2 years ago and one night it started raining.  Actually it hadn't even started raining, there were some dark clouds in the distance.  I was woken up early early that morning (bout 4 am) to the sound of screaming.  My bedroom was on the first floor and they all were upstairs (they live in a 2 story colonial home).  Anyway...I kept hearing screaming and screaming and I thought something happened to one of them so I yelled up to make sure they were all okay.  Sis yells down that there are some dark clouds in the distance and she's yelling at my nephew to knock it off, it's not raining or anything.  He's running around yelling "make it stop, I can't take it".  I fell back asleep only to be woken by my nephew standing at the side of my bed saying "I can't help it, I can't help it.  It's not my fault" and his hands were clenched in fists.  Then he started hitting punching himself in the head.  I could hear my sis and her husband talking upstairs so knew they were okay, but all I could picture was him standing over them with a knife after he's slashed them then stand there like that saying I couldn't help it, it wasn't my fault, I couldn't control myself.  He's a very huge kid (340 pounds) - and he keeps telling them he is not overweight, he is muscular.  Anyway...to make a long story short years ago they brought someone to the house to try and find out what's going on with the storm thing and nobody helped them.  I kept telling her he may need to be on medication, but they had no health insurance so never did anything about it.  This morning she called me and said she is going to have some counselers from her church (she's mormon and said they have professional counselors there) evaluate him when they get back from vacation.  She said they charge but not as much as regular ones (outside their church - they charge according to what you can afford).  Anyway...she said he is horrible horrible horrible, and she called him a little pri*k.  She said even her husband said to her "you and Dan don't get along".  She said he won't listen to her, said he's 19 and he can do whatever he wants and he won't listen to them.  They were giving him $50 a day allowance while on vacation this past week and he would demand it every morning before they had a chance to get out of bed.  She said they would hide their wallets after he fell asleep because he just goes in and steels money from them.  I asked her if I heard that right.  I said $50 a day?  I said if she held back his allowance for 3 days that would have paid for an hour of counseling.  She said to me I don't know what I'm going to do it they tell me he's bipolar or ADHD or whatever and needs medication.  I said would you rather have him diagnosed and on medication or know that he has something he needs medication for and he's deprived of it.  I said it's going to just get worse and worse if they don't treat it (whatever the illness is) and for her and her husbands sanity she's got to do something.  Sis turned 50 this year and her husband is 64.  I said this is not what they need at this time of their lives.  Also, last October they adopted a little girl from China (she's just two years old and she's okay and is not handicapped), but she said this week it was like Dan was competing with her.  She would get a happy meal at McD's and he would have to have one too, amongst other things he did.  At one time this week they asked him if he was upset because they adopted the girl and he said no.  They asked what the problem was and he said nothing, leave me alone.  My BIL seems to think that maybe Dan realizes that he's not going to go anywhere in life and is depressed.  I just told her either way, she has got to get some help for him because he could get worse and worse.  Once I told her that I was worried about the safety of she and her husband if they didn't get their son the treatment he needs, but she blew it off and said no, that her son is deathly afraid of her (he may be 340 pounds, but sis is 260 pounds - not as big but he backs down if she comes after him). 


Anyway...I don't know how much stronger I can emphasize to them that they need to get help.  Sis has talked about some day comeing out for a visit and hanging out at our place, but there is no way in you know where my DH would allow that.  I am very intolerable of my nephew.  When I go back to visit her he gets on my nerves something really bad.  The thing is he does things on purpose to urk them and then he'll look at me and laugh about it, so I know he knows what he is doing wrong.  But I get him back because I tattle on him to his parents.  HA HA - Okay, I'm bad.  But after being around him for about 15 minutes is enough for me.  There is nothing that is nice about that kid.  I've been around a lot of other retarded kids, kids with down syndrome and they are nothing like Dan.  I love them dearly and they are the nicest kids (sometimes better well behaved than kids without disabilities).  Anyway...because I know I can't take more than 15 minutes or so with him my DH is way less tolerant than I am and he has no interest in seeing him at all, let alone having him come to our place.  Nephew also has a bowel problem and goes to the bathroom in his pants often, so that woudn't work either. 


Anyway...don't know if anyone has anything to add to my post on what I can tell my sis.  Always afraid of saying the wrong thing to her.  Anyway...just had to vent about that.  I do hope they get him some help but not sure if they will (it's been 16 years since they should have first gotten him help.


Wow, sounds like you want to jump right into the fire.
I wouldn't do it.  Way too expensive.  Y'all are probably young.  I would sleep on it for several, several nights.
True Christians do not do this, that's why I jump all over them. LOL
A true Christian does not feel the need to preach nor should they.

Only the ones trying to recruit through brainwash do the preaching
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He had pneumonia, let's not jump to judgement here,,

If he starts by helping himself, I will jump in. He saw
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Finish from above: As they jump off the cliff.
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Go jump through your window, Chuck.
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