Need some advice on this fibromyalgia deal
Posted By: Lula on 2007-01-30
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I am working and have already taken a half tablet of Oxycodone- do not want to be out of my gourd trying to work today. My back just up against the work chairs feels terrible, the ribs really hurt and I have some weight on me, gosh if I were skinny I would really be in trouble. Any advice out there as to how to sit here for 8 hours with pain?? Thanks
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Advice from any MTs with fibromyalgia
Hi. I would like to know if there are other MTs around that have fibromyalgia, and if so, I could use some tips on working with it, especially during a flare. I was so miserable yesterday I had to quit early. Better today, but still not great. I'd love to hear from others in my situation. Thanks.
Do you have fibromyalgia and if so
are you able to get any relief at all from it? I was diagnosed about 2-3 years ago and it seems to flare. This morning when I woke I felt like every bone in my body was sore. Earlier I took a half tablet of a pain pill but I do not want to zonk out on anything as I want to work and don't need that, just needed some relief as just sitting in my work chair feel like my spine was right up against the chair. What, if any, things do any of you do for the pain, soreness, etc., etc. I know you probably know this is considered "all in your head" by some physicians but I gosh darn didn't even know I had something until my bones ached and when the rheumatologist ran fingers up my spine as I jumped off the exam table, told me then. When I awake, even if early, have to get up as too uncomfortable to just lie there in the bed. TIA.
Fibromyalgia
I have had it for 25 years and it gets worse all the time. The only time it didn't bother me was when I was pregnant (4 times!). I feel like I have the flu all the time and I am tired and exhausted. I also have arthritis and have had a hip replacement and need the other hip replaced now and I have degenerative disc disease and need spinal fusion. It never goes away -- ever. Stress doesn't matter and not being stressed doesn't change anything. A lot of drs. think it is "all in your head" and many have told me that. Some put me on antidepressants which helped the burning sensation a lot, but made me gain 50 pounds. Sorry to hear you have fibro---it is very debilitating. I work in downtown Chicago and have to walk 11 blocks from the train to work -- it is very hard. I had my first hip replaced when I was 43 -- very, very unusually young.
Fibromyalgia?
Wondering how many others here have fibromyalgia or similar illnesses and what your coping mechanism is? Recently diagnosed in January of thisyear? Finding it difficult emotionally/mentally to accept that one day I may feel great and then the very next day I'm laid up in bed - completely exhausted, hurting, etc...I know gotta get a grip on it - think positive - behavior modification - but it's still difficult at times - guess I'm just venting a bit and curious as to others here.
Fibromyalgia
Unfortunately, I'm part of this club too. I can relate to what you are saying. I also feel completely emotionally/mentally exhausted at times. I just deal with it the best that I can and push myself to try to get beyond the pain. I have to care for a small child and my husband has a disability, so it is me or nothing. I wish I had more great days. During that time of the month I could just die. That is the worst for me.
Fibromyalgia
 I have pain in my shoulders, neck area, lower back and knees. I also get a lot of, what I feel are severe headaches, no photophobia though. The pain is worse when I am under a lot of stress -- and when I have stress I often break out in shingles -- not fun at all. Sometimes when I first wake up in the morning I have trouble walking. My joints are really tight/stiff at my ankles. After I move around a bit it gets better. I'm 39 now, started having symptoms for the past 2 years now.
Fibromyalgia and CFS
While transcribing a report recently I came across a website that discussed somatization disorder with regards to fibromyalgia and CFS. I just did a Google on somatization disorder and it was the first website that came up. It was very enlightening and I definitely going to check out my medical records and physician dictations to see if I have ever been classified as having somatization disorder when in fact I have fibro and CFS. These are very different disorders, but fibro/CFS can be missed if a doctor is not well-versed in all 3 disorders. I hate it thought that many doctors do not want to be forthcoming with your medical records - I have run into that more than once. Well, I'm on a mission now -
fibromyalgia
I have this as well. Have had for years on top of osteodegenerative arthritis. For years the docs thought is was only arthritis (have had several implants in both hands.. All of the specialists I have gone to do not believe fibro is real illness. One had the nerve to tell me I was pain seeking. I was so angry.. Told him to do drug tests and whatever he wanted, but I was sick of the pain. My pain is located in my ribs and goes all the way around like at my bra-line (as if I were wearing one that is too tight).My BP went up because of it too.. Hurts all the time. Finally, my (really old old GP doc) whom I love told me that they have no real proof of this problem and a lot of docs don't want to deal with it. He put me on vicodin 1 a day. He told me to break in half and use it twice a day (1 pill) which I do. Although it doesn't stop it naturally, it does help me and I can work. He believes me and knows I don't abuse or over use.
Fibromyalgia versus the above MS
I know mine not as bad and really feel for the MS sufferer. I do not eat much sugar on a day to day basis, half teaspoon with first cup of coffee to get me started but not a real big protein eater either. I do not want to take a lot of ibuprofen if I can help although I did take 3 tablets upon waking this morning because of the sore all over feeling. Ibuprofen is really hard on your kidneys. I had pasta today that hubby fixed but will try on cutting back on the "whites." Is this something you heard or just something you tried? I am open to all suggestions what others have done to help their fibro. Again, thanks!
My husband has fibromyalgia
Hi, I have posted this on here before but my husband uses a natural supplement called Activive. It helps him tremendously, he has fibromyalgia and has chronic leg pain with it, sometimes it is unbearable for him. He tried everything before this, an antidepressant suggested by a rheumatologist, pain pills, etc. Nothing has helped him but this amazingly has. Maybe something for you to look into. God bless!!
Fibromyalgia, meant to say
in the above post. Thanks again.
fibromyalgia/Lyrica
I just thought I would let anyone with fibromyalgia know that I was diagnosed 16 years ago with this disease and I have been on many drugs and also homeopathic alternatives. Well, I saw my physiatrist the other day and asked him about Lyrica because I am tired of waking up and feeling chronically fatigued and so painful in all my trigger points especially in this cold/dry and snowy weather. Well, I have taken it for 4 days now and I feel like a new person, and I do not have any of the side effects that could go along with it, so I just wanted everyone to know that there is hope out there. I hope this information helps. Lyrica is the first FDA approved drug for the treatment of fibromyalgia. Also, fibromyalgia is now recognized as a disease to the point that Aflac will not insure you for short term disability if you have fibromyalgia, so that is something else that is new too in the world of fibromyalgia. 
Fibromyalgia Questions
I had low back surgery in June of 2006. About 5 days after my surgery, I had a huge muscle ball up in my back. Then everything went to pot. I finally was sent to pain management and they diagnosed me with myofascial pain syndrome.
I know the dx of fibromyalgia is very skeptical. All I know is I feel like I have been run over by a truck. My joints are killing me in my hips, knees and ankles. They are constantly popping and cracking. My neck muscles are constantly sore to the point where I cannot hardly move my neck. I even had 1 bout where all my muscles in my neck, down to my scapula and left arm locked up. I have very little use of my left arm with lifting because of pain in my left shoulder. Sometimes I feel like my body is misaligned.
Can you tell me if this is consistent with fibromyalgia symptoms and pain?
Need fibromyalgia info.
I know a lady who was just diagnosed with fibromyalgia. She has been suffering for well over a year and now almost two years. She has yet to break the pain cycle and feels that nothing will help her. She currently spends most of her time in bed.
I just wanted to know if there were any tips or treatments that have worked for people with fibromyalgia that might help her too. So any information, books, etc. that you are willing to share would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance!!!
Have fibromyalgia and wondering if connection with
eating bread, things like Stromboli or pizza could aggravate this. I would have put this post on the immunosuppression board but not many seem to visit there. I was doing ok, taking some Lyrica which seems to have blocked a lot of the intense pain I have had and the other day ate some Stromboli and the rest of the day was very, very achy for me. Are there persons out here who might have some information on this, maybe working with people who have this or others who might have picked up information that can pass some on to me. I really, really love Italian food but I would pass on the bread ladened parts if that is what is causing the majority of the pain I have. TIA
Fibromyalgia/chronic fatigue - I had it for 7 years (sm)
Started at about 27. If they rule everything else out, that might be what you end up being diagnosed with. I have a tendency to go on and on about this because I tried so many things over the years, so I'll try not to do that right now :-). My first question would have to be "Do you get good sleep?" If not, please Google the effects of long-term sleep deprivation - I had ALWAYS been a poor sleeper, sort of anxious person. Long term DEEP sleep deprivation causes the exact same symptoms as fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue and other chronic illnesses because your body does not ever get a chance to completely repair itself. If DEEP sleep is an issue for you - that is a great place to start - get a good prescription sleep med and don't be afraid to use it! Over the period of a year of using sleep med and getting good sleep I noticed myself getting gradually better and better.
Need advice on a good, adjustable chair for typing. Any advice? nm
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Big deal....
Let her call your home and wish him a happy birthday. Is she hurting anyone. There are children starving to death in other countries and women being raped and killed and you have a nice warm house and beautiful children. Just let her be and let things happen as they will. We are not in control of things to begin with.
I would much rather deal with this
So they pass gas or burp. Big flippin' deal! Better than drugs, guns, and the like that pass through the doors of a school! Cut me a break... You people are outta control here. Parents allowing it? So what if they do? They can teach manners, but let's face it, kids will be kids, and sometimes it happens. That is just plain crazy to think that because your child farts in class that makes him the next serial killer! Paaaleeezzze!
So what? What's the big deal? You act like they want to
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If you don't know what the big deal is....
This is a long read but worth it........
A National ID Bill Masquerading as Immigration Reform
by Rep. Ron Paul, MD
by Rep. Ron Paul, MD
Watch Ron Paul deliver this speech to the House of Representatives on video.
Before the US House of Representatives, February 9, 2005
Mr. Speaker:
I rise in strong opposition to HR 418, the REAL ID Act. This bill purports to make us safer from terrorists who may sneak into the United States, and from other illegal immigrants. While I agree that these issues are of vital importance, this bill will do very little to make us more secure. It will not address our real vulnerabilities. It will, however, make us much less free. In reality, this bill is a Trojan horse. It pretends to offer desperately needed border control in order to stampede Americans into sacrificing what is uniquely American: our constitutionally protected liberty.
What is wrong with this bill?
The REAL ID Act establishes a national ID card by mandating that states include certain minimum identification standards on driver's licenses. It contains no limits on the government's power to impose additional standards. Indeed, it gives authority to the Secretary of Homeland Security to unilaterally add requirements as he sees fit.
Supporters claim it is not a national ID because it is voluntary. However, any state that opts out will automatically make non-persons out of its citizens. The citizens of that state will be unable to have any dealings with the federal government because their ID will not be accepted. They will not be able to fly or to take a train. In essence, in the eyes of the federal government they will cease to exist. It is absurd to call this voluntary.
Republican Party talking points on this bill, which claim that this is not a national ID card, nevertheless endorse the idea that "the federal government should set standards for the issuance of birth certificates and sources of identification such as driver's licenses." So they admit that they want a national ID but at the same time pretend that this is not a national ID.
This bill establishes a massive, centrally-coordinated database of highly personal information about American citizens: at a minimum their name, date of birth, place of residence, Social Security number, and physical and possibly other characteristics. What is even more disturbing is that, by mandating that states participate in the "Drivers License Agreement," this bill creates a massive database of sensitive information on American citizens that will be shared with Canada and Mexico!
This bill could have a chilling effect on the exercise of our constitutionally guaranteed rights. It re-defines "terrorism" in broad new terms that could well include members of firearms rights and anti-abortion groups, or other such groups as determined by whoever is in power at the time. There are no prohibitions against including such information in the database as information about a person's exercise of First Amendment rights or about a person's appearance on a registry of firearms owners.
This legislation gives authority to the Secretary of Homeland Security to expand required information on driver's licenses, potentially including such biometric information as retina scans, finger prints, DNA information, and even Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) radio tracking technology. Including such technology as RFID would mean that the federal government, as well as the governments of Canada and Mexico, would know where Americans are at all times of the day and night.
There are no limits on what happens to the database of sensitive information on Americans once it leaves the United States for Canada and Mexico – or perhaps other countries. Who is to stop a corrupt foreign government official from selling or giving this information to human traffickers or even terrorists? Will this uncertainty make us feel safer?
What will all of this mean for us? When this new program is implemented, every time we are required to show our driver's license we will, in fact, be showing a national identification card. We will be handing over a card that includes our personal and likely biometric information, information which is connected to a national and international database.
H.R. 418 does nothing to solve the growing threat to national security posed by people who are already in the U.S. illegally. Instead, H.R. 418 states what we already know: that certain people here illegally are "deportable." But it does nothing to mandate deportation.
Although Congress funded an additional 2,000 border guards last year, the administration has announced that it will only ask for an additional 210 guards. Why are we not pursuing these avenues as a way of safeguarding our country? Why are we punishing Americans by taking away their freedoms instead of making life more difficult for those who would enter our country illegally?
H.R. 418 does what legislation restricting firearm ownership does. It punishes law-abiding citizens. Criminals will ignore it. H.R. 418 offers us a false sense of greater security at the cost of taking a gigantic step toward making America a police state.
I urge my colleagues to vote "NO" on the REAL ID Act of 2005.
February 12, 2005
Dr. Ron Paul is a Republican member of Congress from Texas.
Anyone else had to deal with this?
My mother has suffered from arthritis for years. She just turned 80 in May of this year. She's told me during the past week that her legs have gotten increasingly more painful - to the point that she can hardly walk to get to the bathroom. Today, she said if her legs aren't better the next time she goes to the doctor, she's planning to talk to him about going in a nursing home. I am really distressed about this - realistically, I've known the day was coming, since her home is not amenable to her being in a wheelchair full-time. I live 1200 miles away from her in a second floor apartment, so even if she wanted to come stay with me, that's not possible considering my current living situation. In my head, I know this may be the best solution, and that I probably couldn't change things even if I lived closer, but my heart is hurting!
This is the deal...
She and he lived in Minneapolis and me way down here. I BEGGED her not to marry him, BEGGED her, and she didn't listen. She is extremely, extremely intelligent and NEVER listens to what I say. Even her little bro, who is 16, tells her, "You should just listen to Mom, she may be a b**** but she knows what she is talking about." She is SO smart she got a 4-year full scholarship at a University in New Orleans, so now she's down here with me and he has less control, which is making him more psycho, but "sometimes" he's nice. "Sometimes he acts like he loves me." The only good thing is that she didn't get pregnant. Oooh, I am just livid. I can hardly type and I have to sit here and work for 8 hours.
I'm sorry you had to deal with that.
Dogs and cats can be criminal like that...torturing small animals just for fun.
Gross dogs though, let me tell you about gross. A friend was in bed, watching TV and having some tea and toast before taking a snooze with her dog, a Malamute, who also shares her bed. This lady was eating her toast while watching tv, not really paying attention. She thought she dropped a small piece of toast on the blanket, picked it up, and popped it in her mouth. Turned out to be a small chunklet of cat turd covered in litter, accidentally dropped there courtesy of you-know-who.
Yep, her dog, like mine, loves to sneak "kitty krunchies" out of the box and snack on them when no one's lookin'.
no big deal!
I think I would probably have a heart attack if I were ever bitten by a snake.. My dentist bought an old house that was inhabited by snakes. . he shot some, carried some out using sticks, played loud music and finally, after a couple of years, has managed to take over the house. . he has way more patience and courage than I would have.
What is the big deal??? They had to have
gas and he said he would put in 10. He did. When he gets gas for his car is his business. If he wants to stop every day for gas, how does that affect her??? If they fight over little things like that, doesn't sound like a good marriage to me.
I know I should not have to deal with this...sm
But see my mother refuses to talk to him. She doesn't take his calls. She will call the police if he comes on her property so she doesn't have to deal with him. I no longer answer his calls either. I don't answer my door if he knocks. But he will literally wait for you to go somewhere outside like he knows I have to leave an 2:45 to go get my son for school and that is his opportunity. It is can I use your phone? Can I have a bite to eat. Then its crying. When my husband is home he does not do this. He does not come over to my house at all. My husband is a truckdriver so he is away a lot. My mother has got on his a** multiple times for bothering me and my sister. She has went off on him. He doesn't pay any attention. She has went to the sheriff. My best friend's husband is a deputy. I have talked to him. As long as he is on his property and hasn't done anything they can't do anything. All I can do is move. Pure and simple.
to deal with her.
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Here's the deal
Ok, we'll start at first cousin, since everyone knows that.
Your kids and your cousin's kids are second cousins.
Your grandkids and your cousin's grandkids are third cousins.
The "removed" part comes into play anytime you're talking about different generations.
For example, you and your cousin's kids are first cousins, once removed.
Your children and your cousin's grandchildren would be second cousins, once removed.
Here's the deal..........
I did that for years. I was working all day and STILL felt because I was at home, I should be washing dishes, putting in a load of laundry, whatever needed to be done, but knew I had to work my shift as well or even my prn work....all the while the children were growing up.
Even my childeren got to where they thought if they needed something (not an emergency) or just wanted to interrupt, they could just feel free to do so... after all, if I didn't make my work a priority in my own head, why should they? Even my mother would call and say something like, "You still on that computer"?, as if what I did wasn't important.
I finally stopped all that nonsense. They got off to school, I sat down at the same time everyday (just as if I were in an office), no phone answering, no door answering. Even my husband would call asking me to look up something in a file for him as if I were his secretary (stopped that too!). You should have seen the look on their faces when they realized I was NOT going to have whatever piece of clothing they wanted washed that day, they would eat what I had time to fix and be glad they had it (no all day meal cooking). The door to the room was shut and unless there was an emergency, it was to stay shut until I came out.
I had already told my mother I wouldn't be answering the phone but if there was an emergency, I would always be screening the messages; otherwise, her chit chat time was on hold until my day was over and I had finished with what I had to do for the day. That woman would then actually get in her car and come across town to knock on my door, saying since I wasn't answering the phone, she would just come over, as if that was okay!! She just doesn't get it at all!! I'm at home, so I must not be actually working. The next time she done that, I didn't go to the door. She stood and knocked, rang the doorbell, even went around the house to the back door seeing if it were open. I didn't go to the door, she went back home, rang the phone off the wall several times that afternoon and when I called her back that night, she wanted to know why I didn't come to the door. She had called my husband at work to ask him why I didn't answer the phone or the door. he told her I had work to do and couldn't get it done jumping up and down all day long. He was finally getting it. He told her if I were in an office somewhere, I couldn't be sitting on the phone for personal calls, doing laundry, washing the clothes, or running an errand, and she STILL said she just needed to tell me something..... like it couldn't wait until later.
Sometime, you just gotta do what you gotta do. If you stop obsessing about what housework there is around and remind yourself you have a job to do, all the other stuff will get done AFTER your job is finished, not during, you will start feeling better about everything.
If you were outside the home in an office would you be doing any of that stuff? Trust me, it can and will wait. You will be more productive as well. Just stick to it.
My sister in law knows I'm swamped with work and she still calls in the middle of the day wanting to chit chat (she doesn't work and has PLENTY of money) about anything and everything, and when I don't answer the phone, she calls her brother (hubby) at work and wonders if there's something wrong, since I'm not answering the phone. Geeeze!
This is sooooooooooooo not a big deal!
I'd say just get over it and stop being so sensitive.
How do you deal with fatigue?
Do any of you suffer from fatigue? I mean being so tired, no matter how much sleep, you could just hit the floor and go into a coma? I thought it was the Lexapro I was on for about 6 months so I discontinued that. While there was a teensy bit of improvement (and that was well over a year ago I stopped it), the fatigue is back in full force. It is a year-round problem for me, certainly moreso during winter, but it is at its worst when I sit down to the computer.
Do you have any suggestions as far as if it could be something to do with my work space? It's clean and bright, almost always has a nice Yankee candle burning, and my chair is a typical task chair with no arm rests and I try to sit as upright as I comfortably can. My keyboard is a regular style, nothing fancy, but nothing hurts. Monitor is a flat panel LCD. I stay away from sodapop and only have 1 cup of coffee daily, otherwise it's water w/Crystal light, and I'm not taking anything for pills except a daily vitamin.
I'd certainly appreciate any tips or suggestions you might have. Thanks for taking the time to read this! 
So go over and have pizza..what's the big deal?
Not like she asked you to plan it or have it at your place and cook a meal. Maybe I'm not understanding.
And much easier to deal with
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Also make a big deal
of the fact that he wears "big boy" underwear and that your toddler will get to do that too when he is big enough and potty trained. Apparently that worked wonders with me and my sisters.
I honestly don't see why this is a big deal
This is information which is already on file with the government. Every American citizen should have copies of all of this information.
When you hear something like this, always go to snopes.com and check it out. See the link below.
Don't worry about it. There is no deal.
The house doesn't meet your standards or needs, and you aren't interested.
Realtors are supposed to work for you. If you want to buy a house, she should be finding out what you want and bringing papers on homes to you for your consideration. Don't even think you have wasted her time at this point!
I had my Realtor show me every house in my price range in all of the north side of this town. She was great.
I have the same deal though mine are 7 and 9- sm
so in a few years it will get interesting, especially since the 7-y/o gets all the hand-me-downs (though right now she does not mind at all). She likes to help pick things out for her older sister because she knows in a year or so it will be hers (and still be in good shape too). I had to go and get the older one new pants, etc. for school and the younger one felt quite left out. I did let her pick out 1 thing (a dress she liked) and got her that; got everything on clearance/sale and walked out with a lot for $140. But for anything extra they want I make them earn the money and buy it themselves. They just pooled their saved money and bought a Wii, they also know even though they paid for it I control the play time on it (plus I am the rental agent on the games at the video store). Never too early to start teaching them to work for what they want.
Good deal...
I'm glad you talked to her and she at least seemed to be receptive. You certainly know her better than we do!!!
She's still a minor and it is your job to protect her whether she likes it or not. Hopefully she'll at least pick better boyfriends!!!
Maybe you and your mom could work out a deal - sm
where either she comes to visit YOU, (without the step-dad), or else she can arrange to have him out of the house, on a trip, etc. when you go to see her. Be honest and tell her that although you love her, and you know she loves the stepdad, that you and the kids are keenly aware that he doesn't like them, and it would be better for all concerned if they didn't have to have contact with each other. Then everyone could be happy, and there'd be no confrontations between the adults, and no emotional scars on the kids from his dislike of them.
Having the pain is usually no big deal,
lots of women have this and something excellent to take for this is Vitamin E- learned from a nurse, works almost immediately. I have suffered from that myself for years. I had breast biopsy (I located a big lump really right below the axilla, turned out benign). Of course it is usually scary but most of the biopsies, etc. turn out to be negative.
You have a lot to deal with here. I suggest (SM)
you take 1 issue at a time. You have a good list started...prioritize based on safety and legal issues. Re the will, POA, etc., download some forms from the internet or buy some...they are widely available. Fill out one of them as a draft, leaving blanks where he needs to give input. Then take it to him, go over it with him, and ask what he wants in the blanks. Then compile a final for him to sign and take him to have it notarized, if needed. Then move on to the next thing on the list. I wouldn't make a big deal out of anything, just make dealing with one thing part of your regular routine when you visit him.
Re the house, spend some time making a safe, clean space in it for him to live his daily life...kitchen, one bathroom, to start. Get and install any grab bars or other equipment he might need. Get him a medical alert necklace for his birthday. I found one at WalMart that doesn't require a monitoring service...it dials 9-1-1 in an emergency.
This is just a start, but that is what you need to do, just start. I hope some of these suggestions are useful.
I agree. What is the big deal, other
that exploiting yourself on TV wanting to be a man and then wanting to have a child. My brother calls them SHIMS. It's not a SHE and it's not a HIM. What is so hard to believe. The so-called man kept his female reproductive organs. . . end of story.
I know a fella who got a deal like you
The house cost him less than $300, the city sold for a fixer upper also. Bad section of town and endless money pit. I started out with less and eventually moved to more.
mascara deal for $125
Lots of earlier posts regarding the high cost of cosmetics. I got an ad from Ulta - use the coupons sometimes. The shocker for me was the $125 mascara. In this economy, is anyone really buying this? I think these companies selling this junk are going to have to get real. The way things are going I have to work 20 hours to make $125. Any chance I'm going to blow it on mascara?
you are not making a big deal out of it
Does he have an IEP? What she did is a real problem. Huge. You need to have an advocate at that meeting.
What's the deal, that site tries
to get people to vote for the bad ones so they can stay on the show?! That's not right...
you can deal proactively with the
I would suggest for the viewing, since you expect to have another panic attack, that you get a prescription for Xanax or Valium before you go, and get somebody to drive you. Hopefully that somebody to drive you will also be willing to be your advocate and help you leave early if you need to.
I agree with the others - you were more than generous to give them the deeds to 2 funeral plots. If they want to rest in peace next to each other, they need to help with the financial arrangements to make that happen. Do you have a recent estimate as to how much that would cost?
And like somebody else pointed out - your mom doesn't need to be moved right away. She can be moved to the other plot anytime before John passes for John and Joan to be next to each other. Just make sure that Joan is placed next to your mom, so that when the time comes to put the big stone in for John and Joan that Joan doesn't need to be moved too.
Since when do men deal with all the details of holidays and
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The big deal is your federal government....
You're absolutely right. They have some identifiable information on file about citizens, so why would they need to change anything and put more restrictions in place? I'm more confused as to why US citizens don't ask why? If they've got everything on us, then what could possibly be the reason to do this?
That is what I thought too...good deal. NM
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