My mom and the kids- venting! (sm)
Posted By: Second week here! on 2007-06-19
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My mom came to visit and watch my kids while I work - I am paying her because she needs the money. My children are a 10 year old boy and a 7 ytear old girl. They are generally well-behaved, never get in trouble at school, get in trouble sometimes at home for the usual kid stuff, but they are basically nice children. My mom has a tendency to joke and play around with them a lot, but then gets offended when they try to play back. Yesterday they were feeling comfortable with her (only see her a couple of times a year) and they both dressed up in "spy" costumes and came out to spy on her. When she "caught" them, they pretended to do karate chops and kicks - which they do with me regularly, very softly, never to inflict pain. They did this to her and she is very angry, saying that my children "hit and kicked" her and that if they are bad again she is going to spank them. Also, she has varicose veins on her legs and my daughter asked her what are those "cracks" in your legs? So she is offended about that and therefore when my chubby son walked in without his shirt on this morning she asked, "what's wrong with your belly or is that just fat?" She has also been arguing with my son trying to convince him that there are ghosts and demons on earth (even though I asked her to stop) and when he said there were not, she got out the Bible and was trying to show him passages to prove it until I came out and made her stop. Is everyone's mom like this?? Do they just forget that children are young and don't think like adults??
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Venting sm
I just need to vent a little here.
I drive an Explorer that's pretty much on its last leg (9 years old). We're waiting until next year to get me a new vehicle. My husband, on the other hand, drives the newer Taurus (only 2 years old).
I drive my 7-year-old daughter to and from school every day and also to jump rope class, etc.
We plan to get the Explorer fixed next month. In the meantime, I have asked my husband if I can drive his car (the newer one) on a couple of occasions, but he basically ignoerd me and I always ended up driving the Explorer. Well, yesterday I told him I need to drive his car until the Explorer is fixed. If I didn't have my 7-year-old with me, I probably would continue driving the Explorer.
He finally left his car for me to drive today, but he is so upset about it. I don't understand it. Shouldn't he want his wife and child to be in the safer, more reliable vehicle?
I don't think I should have to beg him to drive his car, especially since I'm driving our 7-year-old all around the city. I also don't understand why he is upset.
Somebody help!
venting about son
I am so sorry about your son. I know how you feel - I have been there too. My son is now 31, has schizophrenia, lives with us at the current time. We started with the problems in about 4th grade and went through counselors, doctors, hospitals, etc. forever. I know how hard it is to make the decision to place your child somewhere. Absolutely no one can tell you when the right time is. My son has been in the hospital several times, some short term stays and some long term stays. The longest time was when he was 15-16. Eleven months in Topeka, KS at Menninger Children's Psychiatric Hospital. We live in IL, so it was quite a trip. He did well there, but relapsed immediately upon discharge. Most of these kids with severe problems do need 24/7 maintenance to stay on track. It will get to the impossible stage for you both emotionally and financially, as well as physically. There are good group homes and there are bad group homes. If you go that route, check them out thoroughly. My prayers are for you and your little boy. Children like this will always be "our little boy/girl" to us. God's Blessings to you today and everday. Email me if you need to vent or just want more information. I have taught a class for NAMI and would be glad to listen.
venting...
I am not in the exact boat you are in. My child is 9. But my husband is as messy as a child. LOL!
If I had a 26-year-old daughter a home she would have to help out. I mean she has a free place to live so why shouldn't she help? I would tell her certain things she has to do. Like cook a few nights a week. Help clean even if it is on weekends when she is off. She needs to help you. As for your husband ask him to help you our with cooking sometimes and just pick up after himself.
venting to
Probably the next time your husband complains about not being able to find a job, he should not say anything in front of your son.
It would seem that your son perceives he was raised in a way that was unsympathetic, and so he is not feeling much sympathy for you either.
I am not sure if that requires an apology, but you can always request that a kid shut up and keep their opinions to themselves.
Venting update sm
Thanks for all the support and input.
I'm happy to say my husband is no longer upset about us switching cars. In fact, he told me I can drive his car as long as I want. I don't think he realized how unsafe it was for me to drive the Explorer.
He's really a good husband/father, but we just had a problem with this car issue.
Thanks again! I love this board!
venting and angry
My daughter had this same problem 2 years ago. I finally called the doctor, and the nurse asked me if we have animals. I told her that we did, and she said that they need to be treated as well. So, along with treating my daughter, bagging all her stuffed toys, vacuuming and steaming everything else she had been in contact with I bathed the cats in a shampoo for animals that helps treat lice. We didn't have problems with them again. Maybe you should find out if this child's family has pets, and if so, make a suggestion that they treat them as well. I know this is a frustrating and expensive problem, but as was stated earlier, I think educating the child's mother is the Christ-like thing to do. If she gets angry about your help/suggestions, then you know that you did your part. Hang in there!!
Just venting somewhat about depressed parents sm
I feel the need to vent a little about my parents. I talk sometimes with my hubby but he doesn't give much input. I'm close with my parents (I'm 36 they are in their mid 50s). My dad has always been controlling and negative (causing stress on our family). I'm an only child. I'm not going to go into deep details about stuff. My parents are not financially stable. My mom is a hard worker, always has been. My dad hasn't worked for almost 9 years. He rehabs houses when he has one to rehab. They are down in the dumps I think because of money. My mom gets stressed out with her job and then not having financial help from my dad, that stresses her. My dad is a negative person. He lost his mom when he was in his 20s and I'm not sure if he believes in God. He doesn't have faith at all. He gets jealous when my kids stay the night with my in-laws (my parents like my in-laws). There's no talking with my dad. The one time I tried to talk to him about something he said to me that hurt my feelings (I was 30), he didn't talk to me for a whole week. Sometimes I feel guilty for being happy. My hubby and I are fine financially, with our faith. I wish I could sit them down and talk with them, but there would be nothing but negative talk coming from them. I know that really you can't help someone unless they are ready to help themselves. It's really hard to say exactly what I feel. I love my parents, I want them to be happy, but then I feel like YOU are the only one who can change your life, or what makes you happy. I don't want disconnect from my parents (they live a mile from us). If my dad would just go get a job, I believe he'd feel so much better about himself. Anyway, I'm really sorry for rambling on like this. I just don't have anyone to talk to. I sometimes feel responsible for my parent's happiness/unhappiness. But growing up, I could never do anything right to please my dad, so I guess that's why I feel that way. There's so much I could type about, but not going to. There have been numerous times I thought to myself that I wish my mom would've never married my dad. Anyway, thanks for listening.
Every year same old, same old at tax time Venting-
My husband and I never fight ----- until April. Then it's constant for about 2 weeks. 
My hubby is self-employed. We've had a couple of rough years and for the past 2 years were unable to pay quarterly taxes. When tax time rolls around, bang! We're fighting like cats and dogs! He complains about how much he has to pay in every year I really don't blame him, as it seems like in his line of work, a lot of deductions are not allowed and it sucks.
In reality, we gotta get on top of the quarterlies again. Then it wouldn't hurt so much. He said he didn't make any money last year, but we still have to pay in over $8000 to the IRS. I really don't know how this could be either. Then he threatens to sell his equipment. Now for the next 3 months, all I'll hear is the complaining (putting it nicely).
It upsets me when we fight, but I'm tired of hearing it all the time. I wasn't even going to tell him how much we owed but I didn't know where to get the money to quietly pay off the IRS.
Anybody want a wonderful husband for the next month or so? Just until he gets over it, then I want him back. (only kidding---he's a real keeper ).
Thanks for listening. Any suggestions on how to get around this crappy tax thing, please let me know.
Since when is venting spiteful and immature?
You obviously have some bitter feelings on this topic. I suppose you were in a stepfamily that was all love n' peace?
Sick of the stereotyping... Not bashing just venting a little
I am the VERY PROUD mother of a well rounded well behaved 16 yo daughter. She doesnt make all A's but she does well. She has more worked more community service hours in the last year (as well as the past five) than any one we know of. BUT she is given hades by teachers, parents, and just about anyone who does not know her because they can tell just by looking at her that she is TROUBLE. The judge her because she wears gauges (ears only) likes baggy jeans (always wears a belt) and band T-shirts (usually black) and big hoodies or jackets- very similar to the boys in the pic. People are SOOO JUDGEMENTAL her friends have to sneak to be around her because their parents think she is a bad influence yeah my non-drinking non smoking baby girl who was home on prom night by 1030 because the "other kids were getting crazy".
Please before you judge kids think about how you would want others to treat your child. To quote my daughter " I am an individual! Not some mindless twit that just follows to belong!". So just try and remember how you would like your child/teen to be treated before you judge/react to someelses child.
Take care and have a MERRY X-MAS and dont forget to hug your teen.
Hope venting made you feel better...
The thing that struck me the most in your post is that you help a friend by listening to dictation. Is this during *your* work hours? If so, try not to answer the phone. I know, it sounds so simple, but if you have kids, this can be tough. Anyhow, if the friend asks why you are not answering, tell her you need to focus on getting lines so you can pay your monthly bills (stress this!). Maybe she will get the hint. I had to do this when a coworker called me constantly. I'm a sole income earner so can empathize. As for the friends working when they were asked not to, well, unfortunately, it is a supervisors/manager's job to handle. Hopefully s/he will take care of this. Good luck.
It didn't work out due to combining of kids and step kids. nm
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Nope, no kids with him, all of our kids are 20 and over.
I would think that some of the $12,000 A YEAR he paid in support for over 9 years should have been enough to save some for college. He paid his dues so to speak, always paid the support on time, had insurance for them, etc. He told them straight up to pay for their own college. Is there something wrong with that?
ESL kids have a label =$$$. When the illiterate kids get a label slapped on them - they will get a
Most public schools do not teach children to read with intensive phonics. It has nothing to do with class size IMHO. The method of reading instruction is what determines if the kids will learn to read or not.
Consider homeschooling her.
Each child represents a $ amount to public school administration. As long as the child attends they get their $. They still get X amount of $ for each year they teach or do not teach a kid to read.
Their compensation is not reduced when they produce illiterate adults.
I believe my kids would still believe . .
had I not got totally busted by my 10-year-old son. My 7-year-old still believes. I always asked as my kids if they believe and when they said yes, I said that that is all that is important. My son caught me playing the EB last Easter. He said to me yesterday, "Come on, a giant bunny hopping around the country bringing easter baskets? How long did you expect me to fall for that?" I about split a gut laughing!!! However, both older children know how important it is to let the 7YO believe, we all watched Polar Express last night and they still were mesmerized!!!
I think a LOT of men are like that with kids
Maybe because since such a high % of marriages end in divorce, some of them keep a distance there. After all, when divorces happen, who gets the kids? Also, women tend to take charge when it comes to the kids and men tend to allow it. I truly believe that kids do not always strengthen a marriage but often the opposite. I have seen statistics stating that more couples with children get divorced than those who don't have any. Interesting, huh? JMO
That's why I won't have kids.
I have totally turned off the need/want to have kids, because I know my husband could never handle it. I don't want to be a single parent...especially a married single parent, know what I mean? It's an incredible commitment and they don't stay portable and nonverbal for long.
What do your kids
What do your kids call you and your spouse? Would you mind if they changed it, as in Mom instead of Mommy, as they got older? My kids call me Mom. If they call me Ma......I correct them, I don't LIKE it!! My son's GF calls me Mommy or Mom, I don't mind. My DIL calls me by my first name, I don't mind that either. I have a stepson, he also calls me Mom.
I do but only to keep an eye on my kids. NM
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Hello......if you want your kids to know...
about STDs and how not to get pregnant, YOU teach them. Why should there have to be programs about that at all? If you want them to have condoms, you buy them, don't ask the school nurse to hand them out. As to the genius of a President...at least he is trying. The one before him was hardly an advertisement for wise choices where sex is concerned ala black dress and use of cigars in a way that NO one ever intended...and committed felony perjury while a sitting President. Oh, but, heck....who cares, right?? Geeeezzz. Gimme a break.
Hello, yourself. If I had kids, I would...sm
Teach them those things. And if you're questioning why there s/b sex ed programs in school at all, why do you seem to be defending the current abstinence-only ones? They're worse than nothing at all because they give inadequate and downright *false* information. How is not having all the facts (or having the wrong "facts") ever a good thing? Just doesn't make any sense to me. If you want Bush to get credit because "at least he's trying" well, that seems like a pretty low standard for the president of our country.
Now as far as Clinton, I never said I was a fan. You're assuming an awful lot there. I don't even want to get into that.
I was one of four kids (sm)
and I was always wishing that my twin sister and I could have parents of our own. Living with mean older siblings was no fun!
Once again, your kids are still not that old
but when my son married, completely absorbed into not only his wifes life (which I am the first to say she comes first) but also her family and I basically just lost a son. Just swallowed up by her side and you would not know he really had a mother anymore. Quit trying on that end some time ago.
Especially with little kids
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Buy them, but keep away from little kids, sm
When my daughter was 2 or 3, she got her hands on one of the poppies in the back seat and must have pulled it apart and put the plastic middle up her nose. We didn't know in the beginning what was there, but after a visit to her pediatrician who couldn't get at it, a trip to the emergency room, a 5 hour wait for an ENT guy with the correct equipment to retrieve it, we discovered it was the middle of the poppy. Since then, whenever I see them selling the poppies, I tell them to warn parents with little kids to keep the poppies away from the kids.
I don't even have kids, and I
think that's coooooolllld.
It's really not nice to try to be scientific or philosophical with somebody who is going through a loss and expresses sorrow.
Did Jesus tell Lazarus' family, "Hey, dont worry about it; we'll all see him in heaven soon!" No, he took pity on them in their sorrow. That's how He is. Let's try to mirror Him, not philosophists and scientists when it comes to people who are hurting.
Probably more the kids
Love my marriage and don’t mind the divorces until I got it right. The kids are ok as long as infant, toddlers and then they grow up. Not my cup of tea anymore.
Kids going out
I have no problem with it, but there's always upwards of 10 children and at least 3 adults to supervise out all the time, but I would never let my youngest go out alone under any circumstances. We have a very quiet neighborhood, but you never know.
Some men have kids, but then
continue to spend as if they are still single. I can't believe how often I see this. They complain when the wife buys clothes, but when he buys something it has an engine and it's a big, dangerous toy!
That's why I can see why some women might want to hide money. Of course not all men are like that.
I used to buy my kids
those paint-by-numbers kits. Kept them occupied for a short time. Also go to a dollar store and load up on some new toys and books without spending a fortune.
She has kids as well
That was the deal - we were taking both of our kids to do something fun together.
kids
My DD (17 YO) has been getting her self up for years on her own. My mom bought her an alarm clock and she started using that to get up on her own. Now my DS on the other hand, is 20 and I still have to wake him up for work...go figure. I think girls are just more responsible that way.
kids...
I've had both of mine doing their own laundry for about 3-4 years now, since my DD was about 12 and DS about 15, maybe younger. My DD could take care of her own place right now (16 YO), but my DS (20 YO) is another story...maybe it doesn't have anything to do with gender after all...
kids...
Oooh, me too! They do their own bathroom, laundry, and bedrooms. I have my own to worry about. It hasn't killed them yet!
No kids, nothing
could make me stay around to be miserable. I feel most of the times I read these posts the women really do not want to live and use children as their reason for staying. I do not think I could ever say I have been miserable, that is really bad. Only you would be able to change your life and only if you want to. Good luck.
I don't even have kids and I still
wouldn't date somebody 20 years younger than me. I happen to like having a few things in common with my mate. However, 5 years younger instead of older would have its advantages, LOL.
Took my kids to see
Billy Ray Cyrus last night and have to admit it was great! That was their first concert and of course now, he is "Hannah Montana's Dad" They really had fun though! He actually sang Achy Breaky Heart while playing his guitar and barely wiggled a hip through the whole song!
Kids!! UGH!!
They can fill you with such joy and pride and then WHAM! You now understand why some animals eat their young.
I had a very similar experience with my braniac son who became a complete and utter imbecile freshman year of college over the girlfriend he was leaving behind.
What about this: Forget the phone, texting, IM-ing, etc. You can't control him and the more you try, the worse it will be. Your concern should be that he maintains good grades. You sit your son down and tell him you will continue to pay for/support him while he goes to the school he is currently attending. If he chooses to leave the school and give up the scholarship, that is his decision, but if he does that, he's on his own. You signed up to send him to school where he is now. He got the scholarship (for 4 years?), and he got a car. You can offer to pay for the new school where the girl of his dreams (this year) is at, the same amount you would be paying had he remained at the old school. Any costs above and beyond are his. If he does transfer, sell the car - he didn't keep his part of the bargain. I am assuming the car is in your name, insured under your policy. He has to learn to be a man of his word and has to suffer the consequences of not holding up his end of the deal. It is not the end of the world. He will/she will meet someone else and then you can enjoy a whole new set of dramas! My son threatened to pack up his stuff and hop the next train home if I didn't pick him up at school and bring him back. I told him you go right ahead and buy that train ticket, but you will need to find a place to live when you get back because the locks will be changed here. I have caller ID and I did not answer his calls for a while after that. As with you, this all took place first semester. He finally decided to "try" to tough out the year. A week later he loved school, broke up with the bimb...ah, girlfriend, and he's now in his 3rd year at the same college.
Time to put some responsibility on your son. You can offer advice, but punishing, demanding, etc. an 18-year-old does not work. Staying calm and rational and explaining consequences is far more effective.
Time to let go a little, mom, and put some of this on him. He's thinking with the wrong body part and he's only thinking about the here and now, not the next 3 years, like the majority of 18-year-old boys do.
Hang in there! Parenting is not for the weak. That drama with my son made me lose 5 pounds, 2 weeks of sleep and half a head of hair, but I did survive.
If she has 10y. IUD, how did he get 2 kids with her?
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did ya have kids w/him? If so, ask the kids...
if there are children with him, from him....they might want them...or another one of his relatives I would think.....
Congrats on getting remarried....
Everyone gets their kids SO MUCH!! sm
My son is 10 and had an XBox 360 on his list as well as a computer of his own...we told him both were too expensive. We told him we would get the XBox 360 as a gift for him and his sister to share and Guitar Hero III to go with it, but he didn't want to share. So we felt that if it wasn't important enough for him to be willing to share it, then it must not be that important. Our two kids got gifts that totaled about $250-300 each. Since then everyone we know has show us what their kids got for Christmas. Our neighbor's kids, ages 8 and 9, got iPod Nanos each and a Wii system to share! Another friend got her 7 year old a nice Karoake system and a laptop for her room. Half the fifth graders we know have their own computer and their own cell phone! What in the world!!!??
My kids get...
My kids get 3 gifts each because that is what Jesus got when he was born, which is what Christmas is all about anyway. They also will get 1 together gift for all 3 of them, which is usually a bigger gift. Last year was a trampoline and this year was a ping pong table. They know that, they are good with that, and they don't expect too much. I refuse to get my kids any game system because I have too many nephews who sit in front of the TV and play games all day long and don't do any physical activity. As far as cell phones, my youngest is 7 and wanted a cell phone for Christmas and I told her no. She is with me except for when she is in school and does not need a cell phone. My oldest got one of those disposable phones last year for Christmas and didn't use her minutes in time, which made me realize she only wanted the phone to say she had one. My point...do what your family can do and who cares what other families do. I feel the kids that get too much don't learn how to appreciate what they have and in turn expect more than life can give them when they are grown.
Kids and $$
They can sure go through it. I started mine off early. She has always had responsibilities that go along with the allowance because she's part of the family. Our incomes constitute family money, but chores, etc, constitute family responsibilities. Privileges are directly in proportion to responsibility. She is looking forward to her first real job, as she is already well aware that if she wants her drivers license, she will either pay the increase in insurance or be doing volunteer work to qualify for the larger state scholarship. She has always looked over my shoulder on budgeting, bill paying, etc. Around 5, we instituted the "Mommy credit card" because I wasn't fond of her carrying cash, and when she found something she wanted, I would buy it, presenting her with her "bill" once a month, including (very low) interest if she didn't have enough saved. It's a given now. We buy food, books, and pay for necessary school supplies. Anything else comes from her allowance. She has a separate clothing allowance, and with it, we find she has a better wardrobe for lots less money. At 13, she does an excellent job managing her own checking account (with debit card), helps out around the house, and goes to work with my husband when he has work on weekends. I have heard (not just from him) that she works her a** off, and it's manual labor. She helps with taxes and household budgeting, hubby's advertising and record keeping, and all sorts of stuff, so she gets a pretty decent allowance. Many of her friends are jealous of her allowance until they hear what all she does to get it. Is trying to negotiate a loan right now because it's pretty daunting to save up $600 for a software package she wants. She's a little over halfway there and starting to get frustrated. The kid is pretty good at this, too, because her negotiations include that she will also be able to use it for hubby's business, which should make it tax deductible, which should reduce her interest rate on the loan. I think she's going to get the loan, but she's negotiating with hubby (her step-dad), and I'm staying out of it.
Two kids
What ages are your kids?
17yr old son and 15yr old daughter
2. Do they have their own cell phone?
Yes, but neither got one until they turned 14. There was no need before because they were never in a place without an adult or access to a phone.
3. Do they have their own TV and or computer in their room? If so, are there set hours they're allowed to use these:
They both have TVs in their rooms but did not get them until they turned 12. No limit on watching time becuase it has never been a problem. They both have laptops they got for Christmas 2 years ago from Granny. My DH and I both have access to the computers and look from time to time to see what they are using them for. So far no problems.
4. Do they receive an allowance? If so, are they required to do chores to receive this?
No set allowance. They do have chores. They both had part-time jobs during the summer and were required to put a certain amount in savings. Then with b-days in Nov. and Jan. as well as Christmas they always seem to have cash. DD also takes care of my parents diabetic dog when they travel, which is quite often, and she gets paid very well for that and my parents will ask DS to run errands for them (sometimes I think they make things up) so they give him gas money and little extra for his time. We pay for things like field trips, annuals, etc.
You have kids, right?
I would be worried about the effect he is having on them as a role model. I think this is seriously hideous way of life (the animal abuse) to be showing your kids.
For many kids
I'd bet that the people that said "No swats!" had daughters, and no sons,, and said, "Oh my! That's not nice!" Completely missing that, sometimes, boys are not nice!
How do you tell your kids no?
Ugh... I could totally be jumping to conclusions, but I am afraid that my BD (bio daughter) is going to ask me tonight for a loan or something else that I will have to say no to.
I would love to be able to help her, but with all the uncertainty going on with my employment among other things, I just can't right now.
Even if I could (unless I just had money running out of my ears) I'm not sure I want to due to the "among other things".
It's a medical issue and she doesn't have the money to go to a doc. She has not asked me for the money....but she said it would cost her about $120 and she doesn't have it. We are IMing right now....NOW WHAT?
What I tell my kids
alumni solicitors and anyone else whom I want to maintain a friendly relationship: I'm not in a position to do that at this time. No further explanation needed.
Do you have kids with this man? DO you want him
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I have an LG and so do my kids...sm
When I went to get my phone, I had planned to get a pink Razr, but the girl at the store said they were junk. I figured she ought to know and ended up getting an LG Chocolate. I love it. Took a bit to get used to going from a flip phone to the slider, but I really like it. My kids both have the Envy 2 (know I didn't spell that right!) If I had known I was going to be texting as much as I am, I might have gotten one, too, because of the nifty keyboard.
believe it or not, some kids don't
quit no matter how memorable. My sister was like that. She seemed to enjoy the pain of a belt across her @ss. It didn't do any good. It even went to the point of family court because someone close to the family felt it was abuse to discipline my sister the way my parents did. I think after going through that experience with my family, I've tried to stay away from physical punishment. My parents almost lost everything because of a very stubborn child, and I now feel I'm being put in the same position. It's either him or me. One of us is gonna give in. Either he gives in and we live happily ever after, or I give in and he goes to the boys' home.
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