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My daughter was drinking heavily, she didn't know that I knew but she would

Posted By: sm on 2007-02-18
In Reply to: My 16-year-old daughter smoking - KC

act strange and when I would try to come close to her casually, she would pull away. I waited til she fell asleep and could smell the booze on her breath.  The next day I told her I would buy lunch if she could go grab it and when she left I went in her room and found to stashed bottle of some cheap rum.  I know it sounds bad but I put some ipecac in the bottle and then waited.  I didn't put much, but it was effective. She blew chunks and blew and blew.  She thought she just got sick, but about a week later I did it again and after she got sick that time, that was the end of her drinking.  Smart girl, eh? She somehow figured out that drinking rum made her sick!  I may sound like a terrible mom, but I also don't have a drunk for daughter now either.


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because of some sort of teacher's holiday that we'd completely forgotten about, so tomorrow (MONDAY) is the day she'll have to report to the principal (or maybe VP?) in the morning and let them know what she's decided for her punishment for tardies.


What we've decided is to go ahead and let her take the paddling (and I've signed the OK) and IF it happens again, she's just going to have to miss class, there's no way around it. 


Funny thing is, now that she's decided to take the paddling, she's scared!  I think it was easier to go ahead and accept before she knew I was going to say she could, if that makes sense.  Now that I've said OK and signed the paper, she isn't totally sure she wants to be paddled, but she knows she doesn't want to miss class.


I told her this is what happens when you break the rules.  She was warned repeatedly not to be tardy and to take her chit chat to lunch or after school. 

I'm nervous for her but I will try to keep myself busy and not think about it tomorrow.  Hopefully the paddling will be early in the day when I'm still sleeping so when I wake up from my nap, I'll know it's already happened. 


I heard she and her friend talking about it last night (friend stayed over because her parents are out of town).  Friend has been on the receiving end of the paddle before and said it really stings, which is not what my daughter has heard before and certainly not want she wanted to hear now!  So they spent about half an hour last night picking out which jeans for her to wear Monday that would provide the best padding protection.


Thanks for everyone's input on this topic.  I don't like the idea one bit but am trying to come to grips with it and hope she learns something from this experience.


And the drinking age is....
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I would not drive after drinking it!
Use in place of wine:)
drinking soda
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Legal Drinking Age
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I didn't know this was going on.....


The article is long so I didn't copy all of it. See the link below:


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EXCUSE ME! Smoking and/or drinking does not make you a bad parent! sm
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