Maybe that is why she wanted to use fertility drugs...
Posted By: MtMommyof2 on 2009-01-30
In Reply to: I heard on GMA - this morning...sm
to get her own show on TLC...heck, we all know how John and Kate plus 8 paid for that brand new spanking house in PA with tons of acres...not working on computers like they claim he does....
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My money's on fertility drugs. (Possibly an
WOW
Depending on your age, if over 40 your fertility - sm
is supposed to drop (though I expect if I tried I'd get pregnant on the first try as both times took no "trying" at all). I'd just tell him pointblank that you do not want any more children; I presume you do the majority of the childcare, so if you had another would he help out (a lot?). Obviously you two need to discuss this, he needs to tell you why he is so gunghoe for #4 (do you have all girls, and he wants a boy; or visa versa?). Plus the affordibility factor, room in your house, etc. Is he just looking for another tax exemption? Mine tells me that if I get pregnant again I'd have to get an abortion, I told him at this late stage (41) I would not do that and he'd have to live with having a third child. I don't use BC and he uses the WM of BC, so it's up to him to make sure it does not happen. But you should probably come clean and tell him you are done being a baby factor and that you are quite happy with 3. Make sure he does not sabatoge your BCPs, or get your tubes tied or an IUD. Good luck.
Has anyone ever been on Clomid - or any other fertility drug? sm
DH and I are having fertility issues and the doc has put me on Clomid but I have yet to get a positive ovulation stick (the kind you pee on), and I am getting frustrated. Has anyone ever been on this?
I was wondering how she paid for fertility treaments. sm
A single mom with 6 kids, paying for fertility tx, it didn't add up to me. Some foreign heiress was all I could think of. Bizarre however it unfolds.
And where did the $$ come from in order to have the fertility treatments and in vitro in the first p
I had a close friend who ironically was an obstetrical nurse who went through three trials of all this, and with medical insurance it cleaned her and her husband's bank account out, ironically, they ended up adopting a toddler and she then became pregnant NATURALLY!!! but anyway, I know first-hand the expense, what gives in this case, the parents had no money, as I mentioned below, this was reported on CNN and MSNBC.
Can't stop shaking my head in amazement! And if she were "obsessed" as a teenager with having babies for the sake of having babies, shouldn't the parents have gotten her some SERIOUS psychhiatric help, there is a big problem here, this young lady has unbelievable psychological issues that need to be addressed fast, and for her own happiness? Apart from financial, how does one mother adequately nurture and love each of these babies as individuals, all 14, giving them all the love, attention, care, instructions, etc., that they all so richly need and deserve in their little lives???
My husband wanted me to pick out what I wanted....sm
I narrowed it down to 2 choices and let him make the final decision on which style/carat size to get.
drugs
Yeah - drugs certainly change people. . it is such a problem in the rural area I live in - I guess it is everywhere. . . I'm not sure why people are buried after cremation - but I do think the cremation process is cheaper because you don't have to buy a casket, so that may be one reason people opt for cremation.
drugs
Have you ever suspected drug use?
So sad - drugs are
one of the devil's favorite tools for destruction.
I definitely think she did it and I think she is on drugs. sm
Drugs will make you do crazy things. I have no doubt she did it. Too much evidence and lies stacked against her. I think she may have been upset or trying to get ravinge on her mom or something with them having a fight.
I think she's on drugs.
I can hardly stand to hear her talk on AI. She just rambles on and on. Slurred speech, loopy, eyes half closed. Classic. Hasn't she said in the past that she has chronic back pain?
drugs
I am no expert, but I do have a lot of experience with this topic, so I will cut through the bumper stickers and the pep talk.
If you want to know if he is going to be okay or not, all you really have to do is figure out if he ever took care of anyone besides himself. If he EVER, from the time he was a little boy, set what he wanted aside, made a sacrifice for someone else. If he did, then probably somewhere down the line things will turn around. If he never has, ever, not been selfish, then don't get your hopes up.
If I was in your shoes, I would call his ex-wife and find out.
So then why take any drugs at all? Or why not let's just decide which
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Then they need to pay for their own children, drugs,
alchol, whatever they want to do. Pay your own way, I have no problem with that.
Oh my! What kind of *drugs*?
Interesting story.
Considering 2 of the top 10 drugs prescribed in the USA:
$31 Billion Spent On Top 10 Prescribed Drugs, USA
Total Expenditure: $2.2 billion
Number of persons: 4.5 million
Zoloft
Total Expenditure: $2.1 billion
Number of persons: 4.7 million
Paxil
Total Expenditure: $2.2 billion
Number of persons: 4.5 million
It's quite a different world than previous. I think everyone has one or thing or another/S to be anxious about.
It's out of control, if you ask me. The world, that is.
Drugs v. Friends.
It is hard to say how long it lasted. I would think that this was "the year" & then have another period. Probably 3 yrs. During which I was an angry, emotional wreck but was so "inside" of the experience I couldn't really see what was happening. I lost a lot of friends. Effexor helped me a lot, but didn't start until late in the game. Wish I'd tried it sooner. Had talked to one doc about BCPs, but as my symptoms were more emotional than physical, did not seem this would be likely to help.
OMG! I just learned my son was on drugs
What do I do? He's going to be 40 this year. I had heard years ago that he started on majjuania when he was over in Japan in the service, but didn't believe it. He and his wife broke up (supposedly) over her use of of meth and cocaine, but I didn't believe that either. Lately, he 's been bringing some "not so nice looking" friends around here for approval and not recieiving that, so I have not seen him since Christmas Eve. Tonight, I heard he is on heroin. This is absolutely the straw that broke the camel's back. He always denied he was on meth or cocaine, but tonight's "revealation" is absolutely too much if it's true.
I'm broken-hearted and devastated over this latest "rumor/truth" (from more than 1 person) and don't really know how to bring the subject up and/or confront him with this. I'm so disappointed [in my son] and thought he was smarter than this. Now I understand why he is not actively trying to find work (unemployed since May last year).
Any suggestions? Forget rehab unless it's free. We can't afford it.He's my only son and he had a very tough life trying to live up to my husband's idea of a (step)son, but he really looks up to him now. We have another son (my stepson) who never got into drugs, why my son? Could his life been so bad?
I love my son but am thoroughly upset with this latest revelation. I just don't know what to do, and would like to stand behind him, but if drugs are his first love, I'm afraid I can't do that. I'm not really a confrontal person and don't want to lsoe my son, but if he gets caught, I'm afraid I won't/can't bail him out of jail.
Your thoughts?
Can't say too much as daughter who had always been so much against drugs
told me not long ago that she now smokes pot. She is 37 and leading her own life but she was 1 who was so against and then? She and her brother both booze it up more than I think they should but then again, both grown so??
How is he affording to buy these drugs?
He hasn't worked since May? Maybe he is also selling drugs to afford his habit. If he is living with you, I would get him out ASAP!
Yes, but approximately 26 drugs were recalled in
I have no doubt that some drugs are worthwhile
but don't you ever type a list of meds a mile long and wonder how the poor patient (especially someone elderly) is still standing upright? Sometimes that makes me absolutely crazy. I think there is absolute validity in natural cures and I think the medical community or government or whomever is too quick to push yet another drug - or in this case, a vaccine - on the population without knowing exactly what the side effects will be.
I strained my lower back 3 weeks ago. My mother immediately assumed I was going to need surgery, friends insisted I needed drugs. I went to my chirpractor. It took several visits, but I am now pain free. Totally, 100% natural. (I didn't add this to start another whole debate, but just to make my point that there are alternatives.)
Have a great day!!
Figure it has to be drugs of some sort.....
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or drugs combined w/alcohol
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OMG!!! Does he supply them with drugs and alcohol
so they will be doing that in the safety of their home as well?
I am floored by that reasoning. Its as if there is no hope of teaching a child to make smart choices so might as well have them do it in front of you. What on earth is that teaching them?? I'm sorry but you do not need to be a parent to see how completely asinine that is.
By the way, you should ask him if his home is "safe" enough to preclude AIDS and other STDs, pregnancy, etc. Maybe he thinks there is some soft of "force field" protecting her there. Egads.
Drugs can affect people in different
and unexpected ways. I'm very sorry you and your son are going through this.
I had a very weird reaction to Topamax.
I hope the MD can help him. How scary.
Said the woman who did drugs and got where she is because of her father.... nm
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I was told by a child I was doing drugs --
because that is what they were teaching in elementary school.
No and things have gotten insane concerning drugs
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When my now 20 yo DD told me about her drugs and alcohol sm
I asked that she wait until she was out of high school to have sex, because it carries big consequences and she needed to be ready for that. For that she waited for that, but tried marijuana twice and got drunk a couple of times too. I was shocked by my "good girl."
While I don't remember drugs ever being legal
I do know there was a time in this country where "recreational" drugs were legal. After all, that is where Coca Cola got it's name from (from the cocaine that use to be in it). From what I've read, seems to me there wasn't a problem with drugs in this country until it was made illegal ala prohibition. Now due to it being illegal, there is tons of money flowing in a lot of different directions as a result (the millions of jails that are being build to house all the recreational users, etc. plus the money that is made selling it, etc.). Heck, even though it's illegal, it's big business, so I can see everybody that's involved in it regardless of what side they are on fighting to keep it illegal.
Gotta be desperate for drugs. sm
Probably cocaine, powdered or even crack, but it could even be meth. It's the classic presentation--the insane behavior and desperation to get money to buy the drug of choice after being deprived for a couple of days.
You're right, best to stay away from her for good and change the locks on your doors or she could well come in while you're gone and steal everything that isn't nailed down to sell. Addicts do that all the time. So yes, please change your locks.
You cannot help this woman. She has to want help and get it for herself. Same with alcoholics, but alcohol is benign compared to cocaine and meth, and costs very little.
There are also far worse drugs used with cigarette filters
Try Googling things parents should look for regarding drug use and kids. Definitely not saying she's into anything really bad but I'd be watching her like a hawk.
Or withdrawal from other drugs, wouldn't doubt it.
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Just heard on NBC news that no illegal drugs or
alcohol were found. There was a rolled $20 bill found that had no traces of drugs. ET just reported that there were drugs found in the bill. Do any of us think the real truth will ever come out?
I also read abuse of prescription drugs.
Legal, illegal- does that really matter how it is obtained?
Chronic back pain, AKA, just keep me in drugs so I can be ..
in a stupor and maybe get disability or at least a handicapped sticker for my car.
Prostitution, Pot, Booze and Recreational Drugs
I am not talking about drugs that harm if used in moderation. I think our society has given the idea of "escaping reality" for a little while, a real stigma. I don't understand why we, as a society, frown upon pleasure. I think it is perfectly acceptable to "feel good"....what do you think?
And What about prostitution? Should it be legal everywhere? It is a "victimless crime".
But doesn't the FDA extensively test drugs before marketing? nm
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Use of illegal drugs, alcohol consumption, and cigarette
smoking are just as prevalent today as they were 20+ years ago. Perfect example: Look at the DARE program, that was introducted in grade school amost 20 years ago. There are no hard statistical facts that there are less drug abusers today than there were 20 years ago, so that 'program' was a complete failure and a waste of tons of money. These types of behaviors will go on until the end of time. No amount of education or imprisonment is every going to stop people from engaging in these types of behaviors.
Prostitution, alcohol, pot, recreational drugs, cigarettes...sm...
ALL should be illegal.
Some are not out of 'tax reasons'.
How come that people can only relax when they are under the influence of whatever?????
Sure she is mentally ill and I am sure all the drugs and the drug-laced lollipops didn't help!
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Drugs.com: Read on this site about more side effects of Xanax
Other side effects have included withdrawal symptoms following either abrupt cessation or fast tapering of alprazolam. Withdrawal symptoms may include agitation, restlessness, anxiety, insomnia, convulsions, tremor, abdominal cramps, blurred vision, vomiting, and sweating.
No, it was me. I wanted to eat more and did so
I pushed and pushed until I was able to pretty well eat normal again.
This was my failure.
Thanks - I just wanted to be sure! (sm)
I suggested it and then kind of got worried about it! We use it too
My son never wanted one, but DD
got hers actually at WalMart. It was around $100 and very pretty with her birth stone and she wears it every day. Might not after she graduates, but that's up to her. Younger DS probably won't want one either, but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.
I did get the brochures from the jewelry stores at the mall, but they were unbelievably expensive.
Thanks, that was exactly what he wanted!
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Is that all you wanted?
Just have someone agree with you? You said you will never post anything about yourself again. Well, you still did. I have a 17yr old and he will always have a key to my house unless he gives me reason to think otherwise. I still (at age 40) have a key to my parents house (why wouldn't I) what is the big secret? Really tired of this thread. Don't want to offend anyone but this seems to have really gotten out of hand. Just give him the key or don't!
You wanted to ask, but you did not?
For crying out loud, you should be MUCH more ready to forgive him his abusive language and "disrespect" if he was on drugs. Good grief. It sounds like you expect everybody to be perfect except you.
If he is clean now, he would probably be ashamed of how he acted. How many years have you let this rift go on, anyway?
That is exactly what my BF said, he wanted to know
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Just wanted to add one more (sm)
thing. If your daughter does leave home, you MUST report her as a runaway to protect yourself.
You didn't mention, but are there other children in the home? If so, this is definitely something to take into consideration. If they are and they are being exposed to the constant "turmoil" this can be perceived in the eyes of social services as a form of "abuse" so you'd need to tread carefully.
Right now, take the emotional part out of it, take back control and know that a couple of years from now you will (hopefully) look back at this time and you and your daughter will have a few laughs. I remember when we hit that point and I just smiled silently thinking "I remember someone told ME back then I'd make it through this." You CAN handle this!
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