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Maybe not physical force but they did not have a choice. Besides that, they are not sm

Posted By: legally married on 2008-04-17
In Reply to: That does not mean it was by force and - MT

legally married in most cases so that would constitute statutory rape. How many teenage girls do you know who want to be married to stinky old men?


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yes to both..but by choice, not by force.sm
some docs get caught up on their dictations while on holiday. I am alone and have nothing better to do anyway, so why not make some extra cash. but that's just me. good luck in your search.
Not by choice earlier in life, but now no kids by choice
When I was young we desperately wanted kids. We tried for years. (I never took birth control ever, and we even took fertility drugs and planned for multiple kids, just never worked out). Then went through a period of years where husband didn't want them but I did, then years where husband wanted them but I didn't, then about 15 years ago we both decided we didn't want them. We didn't even know what we wanted in life for ourselves and we figured if we couldn't figure out what we wanted why in the world would we bring kids into the world. Now I'm thankful we never did have kids and hope that we never do (I'm 52 with only one ovary - had ectopic pregnancy a few years back), but chances are I do not think we will ever have kids. Now I just cannot tolerate the kids. The little ones are very cute and we love hearing them play in our neighborhood. Some of the things they say are the funniest, but once they get to a certain age it seems like something in them transforms. When they lose the innocence of youth and start becoming little bullies talking back to their parents with their snotty attitudes we just always say, if he was my kid he'd never see the light of day again. Nothing drives me more insane to see the way some of these kids talk to their parents.

But now a days with all the bad going on in the country (around the world) and the country heading for disaster, and if the Mayan calendar is correct and in 2012 we see some major earth changes and the possibilities of civilizations being wiped out, who would want to put their kids through that.

So, I just say - I'm free of kids and loving it!
Unfortunately, sex is more than the physical aspect...
it's mental, too, and it's something a lot of guys don't get, including my DH, but he tries.  I absolutely know where you're coming from. 
A GAL does not have physical custody -

in the best interest of the child - a lawyer who represents the child.  The GAL can make recommendations that this or that person be best suited in raising the child, or make a recommendation to a court that evaluations need to be done, etc.  MOST GAL's do a splendid job in looking out for the child's best interest, but there are those whose priorities are more in line with being in favor with a particular party (a judge, a person of influence, etc.).  I've seen great GALs and not so great GALs.  Time will tell what will happen in this case.


I'm now doing fairly physical labor
for my job, and my body likes it better than being locked in a chair 40+ hours a week. I did have shoulder pain for a couple of months that worried me, but that's gone now. Sitting in a chair all those hours is not good for you - we weren't designed for it. It took me quite a while to figure out exactly where my worst pain was, and it turned out to be coming from right next to one of my ischial tuberosities, probably from an inflammed bursa irritating the sciatic nerve. But everybody's pressure point could be different.

It's one thing if you work in an office and have other duties in the mix, even just delivering reports or whatever, but it's not natural to do only one thing like they make factory workers do. Currently the worst pain I have is from my long commute, SITTING in the car.
I would not call unless you see physical evidence.
Most of the posters have already pointed out that you could be causing a lot more damage by reporting.

The boy was obviously given a choice of his punishment and chose the "stick." You don't know what that means exactly.

If the kid seems happy enough, leave it alone. You could completely ruin his life if you turn his dad in for something that turns out to be absolutely nothing.
absolutely no physical withdrawal from quitting pot

There is absolutely no physical withdrawal from stopping smoking pot, it is a psychological dependency (as all habits begin that way).  Perhaps he indulges in other things that you are not recognizing..other drugs.....which would produce symptoms of withdrawal from them such as you describe.


lots have been there, done that - no symptoms whatsoever except perhaps a little agitated because they  wanted it....I have witnessed many who stopped/quit......from 15 to 65......


 


Dyspareunia: Even when the pain can be reproduced during a physical examination,
the possible role of psychological factors in either causing or maintaining the pain must be acknowledged and dealt with in treatment.
Just wondering, considering MJ's physical problems is a cardiologist really the one he needed? sm
I just happened to think about it and figured in controlling pain like back pain wouldn't one use an orthopedist, neurologist or pain specialist, but also thought a cardiologist should know too much of what drug would cause a heart attack.  Just a thought that maybe he was out of his realm??  What a sad story!  I just have this feeling the doctor gave him too much medicine that caused the heart attack.
That does not mean it was by force and
it also does not mean that is happening currently.  There are many teenage girls married in this country.  That is not something new.  We should wait and see what the investigation uncovers, if anything.
I'm working, not by force sm
I always work Thanksgiving and Christmas (if there is work).  I also work the 3rd shift which makes it easier for me to do.  I love the holiday pay!
The point is -- you don't have the right to force everyone
Yes, many people have severe pet danger allergies.

We don't all worship the ground FiFi walks on! LOL

Some of us have a life!!!
they should force feed the
troll....If you or I, we would spend more than 3 days there.
Air Force question...

OK, my son has decided to join the AF...he's been through MEPS, all that, and is due to sign his contract today...however, last night we find out that the job he wants (security forces) gets deployed...not to war zones...all the time. They are on deployment an average of 180 days a year, so we have been told.


I'm asking y'all if anyone here has had any firsthand experience with this and if so, is this what my son can expect? I've googled it, of course, but come up with conflicting information. I need firsthand info, if it's out there...I'd appreciate so much anyone sharing anything they know about this!!!


He didn't force it down her throat..
She obviously just wasn't smart enough to say no.
I would not force him to stay if he hates it - sm
that much. That said, I am a GS co-leader of a Brownie and Junior Troop. Both my daughters are in GS, 1 loves it, the other wants out. Since I would have to take her to the meetings anyway, I am making her stay in. The only part she does not like is the meetings, which is twice a month for us. She loves the activities we do which are not too much 4 booth sales a year (cookies and nuts), a campout a year in cabins at a GS camp, and usually 1 or 2 other fun activities with other troops, skating, baseball game, that sort of stuff. Despite my 1 daughter's protests I know she will still have a good time, especially this year as our Brownie troop went from 14 to 8, and our Junior troop from 14 to 4. I don't know how much longer mine will want to do it but I will stop when they really don't want to or don't have the time anymore due to other activities. We don't plan on having a Cadette troop (the next step after Junior)as our leader doesn't want that responsibility, so we have I think 2 more years at least. Once my oldest is "done" with it I will pull them both out, or is she wants to continue I will just find another troop for her that has a Cadette group. ---These boy scout leaders need a bit more compassion, and need to allow the boys to call home once a day if they want to. No you don't want some kid calling home every five minutes. We had a girl like that in our troop, a real pain in the butt. She was a bully, constanting hurting others or bullying them, and all the other girls could not stand her, but we had to deal with her and teach the girls to nice to her, etc. in hopes that this girl would get better. Never happened. I am happy to know she is not coming back next year. She made every event a drama about her, calling mom constantly on campouts, changing her mind about leaving every 5 minutes about having her mom pick her up early, crying, fussing, generally just being a pain if she did not get her way. (She has emotional problems at 11, on drugs for depression, anger mgmt--parents were finally forced to get her help after she tried to choke someone 2 x at school--private school, and they pay handsomely to keep her there by donating stuff all the time to the school, the girl will never get kicked out though she should have been expelled years ago for her violence)--- but that is me off on another tangent. ---But the men leaders have that caveman thinking, that the boys have to tough it out to become men, and all that garbage. They definitely need to clean out their campsite, rake it out, build a nice fire during the day....we never have unattended fires at night....even when I tent camped for my training. In theory the BS leaders should have their training, both BS and GS require training, though BS has a lot more stuff going on the GS, but the GS has lots more red tape and paperwork we have to submit before doing anything---took me an hour to fill out all my forms this year, for the 2 girls and myself as a leader. ---but I do believe scouting is good for kids, but if they really, really hate it, don't make them, it just makes everyone miserable there.
... force myself to be nice to people I

No, what comes next? Force feeding meds?
Example:

If I am depressed it is MY choice to take antidepressants or not. If I do not feel comfortable with them, no matter what the doctor says, I can stop it.
Antidepressants have a LOT of bad side effect and there are alternatives!
You can't force someone to learn so that they leave the system
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Aqua-Teen Hunger Force's Ignot and Err.
I could never explain the cartoon...it's something you have to see to believe and have an incredibly warped sense of humor to enjoy. 
DH's choice

This is the dog my DH says we can have!  He is 5 years old.  He has been a show dog, but he finds it too boring, so we get to adopt him .... if Sasha approves of him.  Do you think he's pretty? 


http://www.synama-wintersweet.com/trey.asp


I am told this is an excellent line for show Siberians.  You can tell who the champions are (to see their other dogs, click "Our Siberians" tab at the top) by the CH before their names. 


don't have a choice....
have to get the kids off to school, but most of the time still in my pjs
My choice . . .
Denzel Washington, Paul Newman, Robert Redford.
Again, you do not know whether they had a choice
or not.  This is simply your opinion that they did not have a choice.  Yes, teenage girls, or boys, for that matter, can be married with the consent of their parents.  Again, we do not know the facts in this case.  You have even gone as far as saying the men are "old and stinky."  How exactly do you know this?  You do not...  That is simply your opinion.  I have lived in St. George, Utah, which is very close to an area where these people live, and I have seen many young (20s-30s), what I would consider attractive men, married to these women.  It is best not to stereotype people, especially when all of the facts are not available.
It is not your choice...
As I stated above, it really is NOT your choice! She could REQUEST leave, or a reassignment, but nothing is saying that it will be approved! Especially in the Marines! There aren't always, "ways to get around that."
choice-
gay is a choice sort of like being male or female is a choice, sort of like having brown eyes is a choice, sort of like being tall is a choice. Whatever. One does not choose to be gay nor does one decide to be gay.
Of course I do! I'm an MT- I have no choice!
If I want new clothes, you can't beat Walmnart's prices, plus they usually have some of the cutest clothes.

The rest of the time, I go to Goodwill and Thrift Stores. Just found great new one in the East Bay Area (CA) called Thrift Town, and got a perfect-fitting pair of Levi's for $3.50, and two lightweight hoodie workout-type jackets for $1.00 each. Can't beat that!
ok-it's about choice-don't be intimate....sm

don't forget in the USA (outside of Alaska) there are 10 women for each man.......40 years ago it was 8 men for each women but we know how those numbers changed.....15 minutes out of 24 hours or 2x's a week being intimate for an hour in a 168-hour week - is too much to ask for? *curious*



Sounds like they don't have a choice, it's where YOU want them to be.
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Being overweight sure is a choice, just like sm
smoking cigarettes or doing drugs is a choice.  If you are making the right food choices, exercising, drinking water, or even following a Weight Watcher's plan, you will lose weight, unless you have a problem with one of your organs where you retain "water weight".  I, quite frankly, am tired of people sitting around asking "how do I lose weight" when they are not making good food choices and not staying active?  If you have trouble with arthritis, then you can do aqua therapy (get in a pool even if it is heated).  Anything that gets your heart rate up is exercise.  The "government" is not at the grocery store holding your hand or at that fast food restaurant making you buy those burgers.  I'm sorry, but that is JMO. 
That is a great choice.....by the way,
lots of people talking about her and I wondered if anyone else noticed her wrist is constantly bandaged or sometimes has loads of bracelets. I can make a good guess on that but will not state here. Just a thought.
We do have a choice. We can choose to keep our
undies on and not engage in sex or we can choose some form of birth control (albeit it fails from time to time).
That was her choice, not mine
it was her first marriage and she paid for it. I paid for the rehearsal dinner. She is the kind that does not want outside assistance, not from me and so I never BUTT in. It is probably nice for daughters who want their mother involved, mine happens to just want to be the 1 who does it by herself. Very independent and always like that. She never asked me to pay for anything - I volunteered for the dinner.
Unfortunate choice by...
...his parents for a name, but he was born before Pol Pot came to power, which isn't even a true name, but the shortened version of Politique Potentielle. Maybe the similarity in names was part of the blame for the bullying Paul Potts endured while growing up.

Nevertheless, I didn't even think of the mass murderer when hearing this man's name. Maybe because I read the name before hearing it.

I thought with all the discord on some of the other threads, the unhappiness with jobs, offshore issues, and not to mention the garbage we all hear on the news every day, that this man's story would be a welcome change. It isn't often we hear of the good stuff that happens or the inspirational moments in people's lives. I wish I had left out his name in the original title of the thread!

It's not a choice, It's a child. NM
xx
A 14 -15 y.o. CANNOT make that choice and for a
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They have a choice to find another job, yes? nm
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They usually have to discuss their choice with
xx
Your drink of choice?

Tonight I will be having club soda, cranberry juice and vodka with a twist of lime. Maybe two.....


I have a liquor cabinet filled, so what can I get ya?


hard choice
The choice to rent or buy is tough.  I was a single mom up until a year ago.  I had bought a home; however, I think I would have been better renting.  When you buy, there is a lot to take care of on your own.  It's hard with the unexpected things that come up.  Then again, if you rent, a landlord could be tougher for a woman to deal with to get them to take care of things.  In this economy, buying is scary, too.
I think it is her body, her choice, and
her business. In the same category with men donating sperm or couples going to a fertility clinic.

first trimester that is.
lol yeah, that was my first choice.
the store I went to last night didn't have them, so had to go out today, so too late for the crock pot. Thank you anyhow :-)
Childfree by choice?

Just wondering how many of you out there have made the decision to NEVER have kids. I'm 25, and have known for a long time that I never wanted kids. As time goes on, and I meet new co-workers with kids (and hear how unhappy a lot of them seem to be deep down), I feel even more relieved that I'm never having any.


One big reason why I know having kids isn't for me is because I have Asperger's Syndrome. Not only is it hard enough to just get through day to day life and take care of myself, but I simply wouldn't be able to handle the stress of parenting- I know my limits. Also, according to my Dr. (who is one of the most familiar with Asperger's in Baltimore), there would be a high likelihood of my child having a disorder somewhere along the autism spectrum. I know I couldn't handle a well-bahaved child (I just don't like being around kids in general), let alone raise a child with special needs.


Given that I have AS, I'm thankful that I have well above-average intelligence to at least partly compensate for other eccentricities. And I'm also fortunate enough to have a good, well paying, stable gov't job, where even if I'm not Mr. Popularity, I am still known to do a really good job (and on the bright side, even if I pi*s people off-which I have, it's not like they can fire me). So...since day to day living and working is hard enough for me, I want to have some time to have fun, and if I had kids I simply wouldn't have the capacity to raise them properly and have time to do things that are important to me.


The colors would not be my first choice, but...
I would move into it in a hot New York minute. It beats the baby-puke green house at the end of my cul-de-sac. I think it looks kind of funky and here where I live funky is a good thing. Of course it depends on what part of town you live in too. LOL.
No, unless of course the foster kids of choice
include the more difficult ones because a lot more money is paid monthly for them. I knew of a couple who took in only the more difficult kids, a bunch at a time and made a killing off these kids, now well off and retired and enjoying live and want nothing to do with any of them. Never did really. Sad.
If you have no choice to open up the door - sm
just say that now is not a good time for a visit and to call before coming next time (because you work from home and cannot just drop everything when someone pops by)(add that on if you chose to). They may not like hearing any of it but tough cookies. If you are out of sight, just don't answer the door, if it happens often enough maybe they will think to call first next time and you can again say no, or to nip the visits in the bud say you are quiting that church and to please stop calling you. I am in the boonies and get the occasional church groupie visits of various faiths, I just tell them "not interested" and they go on their merry way without a fight for the most part. Good luck.
I'm valentine-free by CHOICE! That's because it .....
:P
Your choice is to walk through the smoke.

People are made to smoke outside the store, can't smoke inside.  Smoking is not against the law.  I think people with body odor/bad breath smell way worse than people smoking. 


don't have a *choice* to walk through smoke--sm
if you want to get out of or into the store. If someone HAS to smoke...go to your own car where it does not infringe upon someone else's right to not have to breathe it in and contract lung cancer. Body odor and bad breath do not inflict death and are easily taken care of with personal hygiene. Second hand smoke is just plain inconsiderate of others' health, but then why would you care about that. right?
I am talking single mom by choice, not by
a death. I have been widowed before and still had a child at home and the insurance money then was split half for a burial and I gave my child the other $10,000. I do not believe in pity-parties as I see a lot on MTS. I am just glad I waited until later when having my children. I think the ultrasound is a way to make a women thing more about what should be her decision alone but would not have changed my mind then or now.
I agree with abortion being a choice.
should everyone see an ultrasound beforehand?  I am for the choice to do as you choose.  I believe in freedom as well, but there are people out there that believe abortion is murder.  That is all I was stating above there.  What I am saying is that there are circumstances like some named in this thread that shall we say "warrant" an abortion, but those "rules" would need to be up to the lawmaker.  Are we only talking about teenage pregnancies or pregnancies after the age of 45?  What type of pregnancies are we talking about that the mother should look at the ultrasound beforehand?  There would be a lot of ifs, ands, and buts, for this to become a law, wouldn't some agree?  That is all I was stating there.  I think this may have been misinterpreted.  Of course, I believe a woman has the right to choose in regards to her own healthcare whether it be an abortion, a hysterectomy, or to have a fracture fixated.  All the same to me.  Sorry if I have offended anyone, but that is how I feel.