Maybe I should have worded the topic differently, like Demand stricter laws for sex offenders...
Posted By: kam on 2007-02-23
In Reply to: I posted the question because... - kam
I am sorry if the wording of the topic offended anyone. I was rushed but wanted to type up something to get the word out about what I had seen on the Oprah show, and that was the first thing I thought of. But the main goal of my post was to get people to demand harsher laws for sex offenders and to make the laws more uniform from state to state so they cannot "hide out" in states with more lenient laws.
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I don't know current laws or laws in your state but sm
I was told they had to have 3 complaints before they paid a visit so just relax now that you did your cleaning and are prepared. Always best to prepare for the worst! Good luck to you with the divorce. I could have said your story!
LOL! Someone got his mixes worded up.
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As sickening as sex offenders are....
you can't stop them from playing the lottery. It stinks to think that a person who would do such a sick thing would be lucky enough to win the lottery. Not really anything you can do about it though.
Does anyone live next to sex offenders? sm
I live by myself on 15 acres in a rural community. There are 4 tier 3 sex offenders living within walking distance of me. The newest one is a rapist who I think just got of jail and lives next to me, albeit about 3 football field widths away. Next to him is another tier 3 offender and then past him are 2 more.
One of them (the one on the other side of the newest one) runs a lawn mower repair service and my dad, who owns my property, but does not live here, had him fix a lawn mower and then wanted him to do some other work at my house. I told my dad I didn't feel comfortable having him around. The guy always had an excuse why he couldn't work anyway which is okay with me. The guy is a real manipulative slick liar. I don't want him on my property, but am afraid if he shows up and I tell him to get off, he'll take this as a power play on my part.
I've also had other problems with him concerning my horses like letting them out of the fence on purpose and trying to steal them or maybe hit one of them so he could sue. He hit a dog of some people down the street and tried to sue them. I had one horse that was mean and he and his buddy came saying they could work with her. I let them take her and then they tried to get me to give them another one of my horses and I said no. I told them several times the mean one could come back to me if she didn't work out. Well less then 2 weeks later they sold her, which is what I think they had in mind all along and tried to get my other one too so they could sell him. I got different stories about where she went. I tried to find her. I feel bad because I didn't want anything bad to happen to her even though she was mean. I'm not used to dealing with unsavory people and can't believe I fell for their stupid manipulative tricks.
Anyway, anyone have any experiences with having to live with this. Since the new one moved in, I'm kind of uneasy and find it hard to sleep. I only have my 3 dogs for protection, don't own a gun. 
I really want to move out of this place in the worse way, not only because of the sex offenders, but because of some of the other neighbors and just the community in general. I've never met so many nasty people in my life. If you haven't lived there all your life, they treat you like dirt. My neighbor across the street throws leftover food in his yard and wonders why all these animals come in his yard including my dogs some of time. He got drunk one day and tried to run my dogs down. Unfortunately I don't pay any rent and can't afford to live anywhere else because I only make $1500 a month. I've been trying to find another job but you know how that is nowadays.
Thanks for letting me vent. I just don't know what to do. 
I worded it wrong - my kids are not sneaky (sm)
With every family member and friend I know who does spank their child, I have witnessed repeatedly that as soon as the child is out of their sight they are bad rebellious children! All of them! It teaches them to lie and be sneaky and to be rebellious. They may grow up to be successful, but as children they are not pleasant to be around without their parents. You remember the old cliche about "preacher's kids" being the worst of them all??
On Demand???
I can't find it on Demand, we have Comcast. Did they stop putting it on there? I know they used to, but it's not there anymore. We are watching the 2nd season right now on Sunday nights, as they are repeating it, but I would LOVE it if we could get it on Demand. We had rented the 1st season and I am hooked and then last Sunday they started the 2nd season repeat.
Demand that he runs Free T4/3 on you.
Free is usally not the lab sheet to check off. He has to write it. I would *demand* he runs labs again with Free T4/3.
Thank God for "On Demand" with Comcast.
That way, I can keep caught up! Scrubs never gets old!! I LOVE that show!!
No, just some line about "popular demand" which is hogwash
considering it was gone most of the time I went to get some and when I saw it I bought it all :) But that's how Sam's is, too. I found a really good dip there once, next time POOF it was gone. Same with this hot chocolate mix. Now you see it, now you don't. My offspring are out now wasting gas scouring the city, calling me, "OK, how about On-The-Go Hazelnut..." blah, blah, blah, ad nauseam. If I wanted that stuff I wouldn't be having the problem!
We cut back on driving, and the demand dropped.
Goes to show there is no reason for it to be that high anyway. If they think they can charge that much and get it, they will.
oh, yeah. I get it on demand, too. can't wait til next season. nm
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You could do it differently.
When Christmas isn't enjoyable because of too much pressure, you can always decide to do it differently this year, or next. For instance, when I worked at an office, I really thought the gift exchanges were pretty annoying, especially when the truth was that nobody liked each other. So at two different jobs I suggested that instead of spending $10 on a gift for a gift exchange, everybody could agree on a charity to send the money to for Christmas.
Don't want to do the family dinner this year? Volunteer to work that day. Then just tell your family it's your year to work the holiday, so you are sorry, but you can't join in this year.
Or volunteer at a soup kitchen or something.
There are lots of ways to opt out and take a vacation from a holiday that has you annoyed.
I did WW, a little differently though (sm)
I joined WW and got materials and first weigh-in but did not have time or money to go to weekly meetings. There is a website called 3FatChicks that is very good!! I lost about 40 pounds using them as my support group. I haven't been on there in about a year but I looked at it again the other day and they are still going strong. It is free and you can join groups of people doing any diet you choose and there is a big WW group on there. I have to get on track again too - I have gained so much lately! Good luck!
Well I see it differently (sm)
I think someone who strangles their baby or shoots someone is intentionally killing them. Someone who has an abortion usually does not think of it as killing, and that is because of what society generally says about it. For example, if you were living in a tribe somewhere that sacrifices a person once a year, because of the society you lived in saying it was okay, you would not think of yourself as a murderer. I don't think of someone who has an abortion as being a murderer. I consider them to be a part of a system that says it is ok. I think the doctors/nurses performing the procedure are the murderers. And to the question some may ask "is it murder?" Here is my analogy: Suppose you are a gardener who has planted some tomatoes and and the plants are doing very well, look healthy, and you are thinking you will have some mighty fine tomatoes by July. Then someone comes along and rips them up out of the soil and throws them on the ground. Did they kill your tomoto plant?
Everybody reacts differently to
medications. It would probably be a good idea whenever possible to start one new drug at a time and see how it affects you before adding a second.
That's not always possible if you are having to treat something acute, of course.
Am I only the one who sees it differently?
I think your daughter has every right to be upset. You just took in a stranger (and let's face it, he's an adult) and took away your daughter's friend. Is this 18-yo working or still in high school? Did his parents ask you to house him or did he move in because he didn't want to go with his parents?
If this 18-yo is working and didn't go with his parents because he didn't want to live with them, then he should be adult-enough to stand on his own two feet. Your daughter comes first. At 16, I had girlfriends staying over almost every weekend. Why should she have to give up her "childhood" because of this stranger. Perhaps this 18-yo can visit his parents on the weekend, so your daughter can have her friends over.
As an aside, if this 18-yo continues to stay there, then you should sit both the 16-yo BF and the 18-yo down for a long talk. It's obvious his parents aren't doing their job and they've just left it to you. I think there's more to this story then we're getting here (and I don't mean that to be rude). It's very noble that you would take this 18-yo in, but you need to remember that your family comes first. Good luck to you!
Obviously if you watched you would have thought differently
They weren't music videos they were real people. It was reality.
If you knew what the emails said, you may think differently...
this has gone on for a few years now, either she wants to know me or not. One thing is for certain, she sure isn't getting all my information without giving something back. If she wants to meet face to face that's fine with me and if not, that's fine too. While I have curiosity, I don't spend my time wallowing in what could have, should have or would have been. That chapter of my life has been closed for many, many years and frankly the curiosity fades more and more with time.
i know everyone parents differently but if mine
she most definitely is not upset that her daughter is missing--didn't even call the police!!! I think she had something to do with it even if she didn't outright kill her
Lucky and anyone who thinks differently
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I guess I have always looked at this a little differently.....sm
I was taught and have always believed that a gift is just that....a gift, freely given without the feeling of being obligated to give in return. I was taught how to give freely by seeing my parents give freely and because they wanted to, not because they expected a gift in return.
That is how I have tried to teach my sons, by giving freely to them on their special days without expecting anything from them on days that are special to me. Sometimes I have received gifts, sometimes not, but I know that I always have the most important gift, that of their love, and they know they have my love as well.
And your post is exactly how people see things differently,
for example you think Kelly and Carrie the best- well I for 1 do not care for their music, would have never voted for them and absolutely loved hearing Fantasia- so you see different minds play into who the final contestants are. Simple.
Bezoar was used spelled differently in Buffy The Vampire Slayer
As this big amorphous mass which lived in the sewer and laid eggs. EEEwwwwwwww!!!!!
Okay, a bit off topic but here goes
So many women talk about the bonding that happens when you breast feed that does not happen if you don't. Now it seem to be okay to let someone else breastfeed your child if for some reason you can't. Where does the bonding come in? Who is the child bonding with? For me I breast fed the first child but did not the second. Who am I closer to? Couldn't tell you!
A little off topic, but
I was out to lunch one day with my DH and on my way home I came upon a crash that had just happened at an intersection...one of the drivers was a young girl (she happened to go to the same HS as my DD). The other driver was a 30-something mother of 2 or 3. The young girl had run a red light and T-boned the other car. The mother was instantly killed in the crash, with 2 of her children in the car with her. When the teen girl got out of her car...yep, she was on the phone...! And obviously she was not calling 911! So sad...my DD said this girl went off the wall after this accident.
Not a funny topic at all.
I agree, i hadn't been reading all the posts (although i did now) and i think that it isn't a funny topic at all. My son is 6 and by this age they have discovered what their private parts are and they get aroused and i just think it's sick. Have you ever heard of Oedipus complexes? It's where the children become attracted to their parent! This can happen and it's not healthy and i just think (VERY PERSONAL OPINION AND NOTHING MORE!) that you're putting your child at the risk of developing some sort of issues. I 100% agree with Breastfeeding, i did for a little over a year. But at some point you have to disattach yourself from your child and let them grow up on their own in some areas and by treating them like a baby does not help them mature and go out on their own any. This was my 2 cents as well and nothing more, i just found it disturbing.
This is very interesting on this topic
http://www.jugglezine.com/CDA/juggle/0,1516,30,00.html
ongoing topic
I live in Florida and this is an ongoing topic on forums of local newspapers. We have a large Hispanic population here and while many of them speak English, many of them do not. If you go to Wal-Mart here, all of the signs are in English and Spanish. Many of the food products are in both languages. I actually know a couple through a family member who moved here from Cuba, must have been 35 years ago now, when Castro took their farm. The wife speaks virtually no English. She worked for Disney in housekeeping or something and retired from there. Even Disney didn't seem to care if their staff learns English.
I worked at a bank prior to becoming an MT. I had about 4 bilingual coworkers and we needed them. We had numerous customers who came in to cash checks or even had accounts there and didn't speak any English. I taught myself enough Spanish independently on the Internet and through books to be able to serve their needs. Now let me ask you, if I can manage that why can't they?
I don't think it's being racist or having a bad day. We all have to listen to ESL doctors who are practically incomprehensible. I wonder sometimes how in the world they passed the equivalency exams. I also know as doctors they can certainly afford a few diction classes but they don't bother. Meanwhile, we can't understand them, I don't know how their colleagues understand them, nurses probably have a hard time understanding them and many of these doctors are administering to elderly patients who don't hear as well. God only knows how they understand them.
English is the accepted universal language in the business world which is why people in other countries learn English. If you are going to do business in a predominantly English-speaking country then learn the language.
Good topic...
I am making my shopping list around coupons, buying more store brand items, cooking at home a lot more, and just generally hanging out at the house on the weekends cause we can't afford to do anything else. I cringe when I have to go somewhere in my car cause I don't wanna burn my gas. Thank goodness I can work at home, my son rides the bus to school, and my daughter drives but it's only less than a mile away.
Good topic- sm
In my lifetime I have had a Pembroke Welsh Corgi (best cow dog EVER), purebred ChowChow (real sweetie) two giant mutts (brothers), they were some kind of lab/shepherd mix. Both of them were with us for almost 17 years.
Also had an Irish Setter and this dog was a nut.
When my son was very small and we lived out in the country, he would todder down our long driveway. The dog would follow him and keep a watchful eye.
If the dog thought my son was getting too far from the house, he would gently knock him over and bark at us.
Pretty soon, baby boy would get up and head further down the driveway. After a few feet, the dog would again knock him over and bark at us.
This would go on a few more times until finally the dog would knock him over and just lay on top of my son and start howling like crazy... "COME GET THE KID!"
We had it on video but I don't know what ever happened to it.
That is a topic to just get me going today.
Ex-Idiot#1:
He got remarried to Satan's daughter (actually she is 12 years older, she might be Satan's sister). She beat my children and he allowed it so they deserve eachother.
Ex-Idiot#2:
He used to beat me. He took my son from me at 5 months old to travel the country in an 18-wheeler so that I couldn't find him. I did find him and got him back. Now he remarried. Thing is, the woman grew a brain cell. She booted him with nothing. He deserved what he got for what he has done to so many women over the years. I haven't heard from him in years, which is probably a good thing.
I told Satan's daughter to say hello for me when she visits Idiot#2 at her "brother's house".
Let's get back on topic, please.
This isn't a discussion about statistics.
Ahh a tricky topic...let me tell you the one about.....
Hex nut in the urethra man. Yeppir, AND he was a repeat offender, having been brought in for numerous urethral extractions..... his hex nut being his best.
Then there was toothbrush swallowing guy. (really!) You would think the curve of the toothbrush would prohibit swallowing. This guy was also a repeat offender. Lightbulbs, toothbrushes, razor blades, whatever ya got!
I love these guys. 
Off topic - mac and cheese
I must be living under a rock, but I was watching the Food Network, and they were talking about restaurants that serve mac and cheese pizza. I might have to try it, it sounded pretty good, but I can't think of anything more fattening - unless you add bacon to it.
Topic of conversation here lately
I was talking about the wages being offered now for MTers and no raises, pay going down and the like just the other night. I said pretty soon looks like the MTSOs will be charging just to have the people working. I am so very glad that most of my working in years past because like the previous person said, I also did around 60,000 years ago and now more in the 20,000. My husband said this can only happen if MTers allowed it to happen. I am not caught up in this hot mess like I would have been years ago but I understand what it is like to try to raise a family and yet the money might not be there. I don’t know what it will take but the workers here 1 day will have to do something about how this profession is heading
ex in-laws
Thank you for your well thought-out reply. I plan on discussing this with him and at the same time will try to remain respectful of the fact that he loves his aunt. He is of course home for Christmas (and other holidays) and will be back here permanently around April. There are too many details of this situation to put on this board but I thank you again for your advice.
The in-laws
Hey, I am not sure if they are freaky, or not. I was raised in that church when I was young and switched as an adult. Since Matthew Winkler's father is also a COC minister it would be doubtful if he even knew about any of his son's warped proclivities (if he had them) since church members rarely, if ever, talk about things of that nature). It makes me sad to see that those grandparents are being labeled as warped just because of their religious beliefs. I must tell you that I have never met a member of that church who was a "bad person" and I have had exposure to lots of them. I have to wait and see the show. I am very interested in what she has to say. I would also like to see the in-laws go on the show to present their concerns. I think it would help everyone, including the children when they would be old enough to see it. So many times things like this go on with women and men we know and I think it is important to understand any signs to watch for so as to prevent what happened with their family from happening to anyone else. If, however, Mary is really guilty and just wanted a way out (which is a possibility) I believe the children belong with the grandparents and that Mary should relinquish her parental rights. It would be nice too if she would admit if she was truly an abused woman, or not. They can't try her twice.
Where do you think laws come from?
Most of man's laws are based on the Bible, the 10 Commandments usually.
I am not comparing gay people to criminals. Based on your statement that God expects us to be happy, regardless of what form that happiness might take, I am asking the question that, if it is okay with God for a person to be gay if it makes them happy, is it okay with him for a person to steal, commit adultery or murder if it makes them happy.
You changed the context of the subject, not me. And for what it is worth, there are still states in which sodomy is a crime, therefore gay sex is a crime. There is even a state where adultery and fornication are a crime. http://www.sodomy.org/laws/
I get this too...especially my in-laws...
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In-laws
I guess I lucked out with in-laws. When we married, I referred to his parents as "mom" and "dad" from that point on. When my SIL had kids, we *both* became aunts and uncles to them and DH is uncle to my sister's 2 kids. I don't think you're being sensitive and good for you for teaching your kids differently!
On the topic of consumer reviews :)
I generally have had very little luck finding a really comfortable bra. I am big busted and use underwires (yuck). Anybody care to share what their favorite brand of bra is as far as comfort for us more well-endowed women?
coming in late on this topic
I'm the grandma who has custody of grandchild. My custody papers allow 2 visits a months with the parents and more "as agreed to by both parties," but all are supervised and no overnight visits. I will not allow either parent into my home, so we were meeting at a fast food place with an indoor playground.
Because of suspected (and now admitted) drug use, I suspended visits until a clean drug test could be produced. In a few weeks, it will be a year. I talked to my lawyer about this before I suspended visits. I could not withhold visits due to failure to pay CS. I could be held in contempt of court and go to jail. However, since no judge is going to say it's okay for a parent on drugs to visit with the child, that is a different matter. In only 6 months, the parents are behind by $6k...I'll never see any of it.
My attorney told me the only way to withhold visits is if there is a situation that would place the child at risk - child abuse, parental drug abuse, sexual abuse, etc., otherwise you have to follow the court order or go back to court and ask the judge to revise the order with documentation of the reason for the request.
The noncustodial party can always go to court and ask for a revision of vistation as well to get more liberal visits.
OK. This is weird and maybe should be under the Confessions topic.
But I love the Godfather. I mean, I really LOVE that movie and Godfather II. I've watched those two movies a zillion times, director's cut, saga, DVD extras, you name it. (Not so fond of part III.) I'm not sure why I love it so much. Maybe my upbringing? I wasn't raised by mobsters, but I was surely raised in an Italian household. (I don't need the subtitles to know what's being said in Sicilian/Italian.) I like the complex theme, seeing Michael Corleone go from a righteous good guy to a powerful mob boss, twisting the admirable quality of protecting family into the distorted mess that brings him to his ultimate realization of his own guilt.
When I have I have the time, I get out some nice primitivo, some good cheese, lovely chewy bread and roasted peppers and watch those movies.
I wanted more info as well on this topic (sm)
so I Googled "delawing pros and cons" and then also tried "declawing video". I must say, after looking at both sides and hearing about postop complications, if I were in your shoes I would find an alternative to it, especially if its an older cat. Apparently the practice has been banned in California. Very enlightening stuff out there on the net about it.
This is a hard topic for me - I see both sides (sm)
I have had prayers answered, but I have seen such suffering too and I know those people have cried out for help. You can always ask, but you never know if it is going to be God's will to solve the problem for you or not. I don't see how you can have blind faith that your problem will be solved when not all problems that are prayed about are solved.
hey gourdpainter, i know this is off the topic of your post but
i think gourds and painting them are so cool. My husband has a big garden, and he usually plants some gourds. The only thing I've done with them is let them dry and keep them around for a while. It would be so cool to be able to paint them if I had the time and talent.
Discussion topic today
How on earth did you get custody of your deceased ex's cremated remains? Did you divorce him after he died? LOL
A twist off topic, but that's the opposite of my MIL
She wouldn't return anything, and expects no one else to, EVER. She cuts all the tags off and then claims to have forgotten where she bought things. She has even gone so far as to cut the size tags out of gifts. She once whispered to my husband, "I had to buy her an extra large, so I cut the tag out. I didn't want to embarrass her." That was for a robe she bought me when I was pregnant. Believe me, I knew what size I was! I hate to have her spend money that goes to waste on things that just don't fit, for example. Those could be simple returns, but she won't give gift receipts or even say which store she bought the gift at. I've given up. I appreciate the thought of the gift, but if something doesn't fit, I just donate it to the next clothing drive that passes by. Someone will use it.
Probably because it was a valid discussion topic below.nm
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Relationships - new type of topic
I'm reading through all the posts below (where did you meet your spouse, what was your first meal, etc). I'm wondering how many of you out there would be perfectly happy living by yourself. I absolutely hate those dating commercials (eharmony, etc). Why does society try to make us feel that we have to have that "someone special" in our lives or we are nothing. A lot of times that "someone special" turns out to be "nobody special" but you don't find that out until your married and its too late. HA HA
I have always believed that before planning your life with someone you should first be true to yourself. Get to know yourself. What is is you want out of life. Can you achieve that goal on your own. I always have felt I did not enter with world with a man attached to my side and I won't be leaving this world with one attached to my side either. I'm am me, I'm a whole person. I have interests, thoughts, and beliefs, that are not always the same as my "other halfs". I am married right now, but to tell the truth I would be perfectly happy living on my own also. I've got lots of family and friends to do activities with, so there is not an issue of ever being lonely. You can be alone without being lonely.
Just wonder how many people are so attached to their spouse they feel life would not be worth anything if they were without them and if so why.
it was about her shoes - not a political topic
I would just ignore it. Started off about fashion. You can't control what people are going to write about a certain topic. Sometimes the two can blend together. Since we're not talking bout the O I would just ignore it and write another post about something else.
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