Make a fuss to school board, principal, teachers, dept. of child welfare (sm)
Posted By: sm on 2007-11-30
In Reply to: I understand your frustration-I also feel sorry for the little girl (sm) - Anon
whoever you need to. I understand these are difficult to get rid of but obviously the mom of that little girl is not getting rid of them, maybe she treats the child but if you don't clean up the environment reinfestation is a sure thing.
We got a letter from the school yesterday stating there is a lice outbreak in the school. Then we had a program last night in which all the 3rd graders put on these little capes (that came out of a community bag where they had used them before at practice and then bagged them back up) They of course went over their heads and rested on their shoulders. I wasn't the only person that sucked in air when they saw this last night.
I am sure that poor child is and will be embarrassed about this and probably other things in the future if her health/hygiene issues are not being taken care of properly.
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Should definitely be reported to principal/school board. Ridiculous!
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TAKE TO POLITICAL BOARD. All you want to do is fuss about Obama
It makes no difference to any fair minded person if he got the dog at the shelter, off the street, had him given to him. It just does not matter in the scheme of life. Go back to the other board. They may appreciate you there. This is the gab board and we are only talking about a little black and white doggie. You are not contributing anything we wish to hear.
i care about child abuse, welfare fraud, and
dumping of young males to the streets, so they lessen the competition for the multi-wife thing. This is all well-documented. This is not about just polygamy -- which is also against the law, but its the abuse of children and abuse of our welfare system -- all under the banner of religion. If it was just about men taking multiple ADULT wives, the government would not likely have stepped in to even enforce that law.
"The parents", the "older man". The welfare of child
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It is NOT the teachers place to tell a child that Santa doesn't
yeah I just might sue as well!
Not many teachers just "work" during the hours school is in
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A single mother by choice does not make them a welfare
recipient and/or a bad person. Heck, I would be more inclined to put that person as unselfish and determined. You chose the easy way out, the single mother took on her commitment and took the responsibility.
I think I would be calling the school board
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My child got in trouble at school.
I need some opinions from other moms. My little 5-year old dd got in trouble at school and was put in time-out. First, she was talking to her other friends during a movie that they were watching, then she was talking and playing during nap time. She did not get to go skating or get ice cream like we usually do on Saturday nights. We went to Lowes to get some things for the house and she found a book that she wanted, I told her no because she acted up in school. That has been her punishment so far. I am thinking about having her go apologize to the teacher Monday for acting so ugly Friday or would that be too much?
She has been in daycare since 1 year of age and last September she went to Pre-K. This is the first time anyone has mentioned having any problems with her. The night before my 15 month old kept us up all night and I know with my 5 year old doesn’t get enough sleep she does act up and I feel that was the real problem, she was tired.
Yes, they do. 10-month teachers make more than 9-month
teachers. I know that for a fact. One of my sisters was a 9-month, one is a 10-month. They are compensated for working more scheduled hours.
If it was my child, I would be at that school in a hot New York minute.
Regardless of what is or is not wrong with the child, that comment from the teacher is totally uncalled for and extremely unprofessional. A teacher should know better, period, end of discussion. And I agree with tnmt, ask for a meeting with the principle and teacher.
Doesn't make much sense since this is the gab board???? NM
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Does anyone with a learning disabled child home school them? sm
If so, how did you go about figuring out how to teach them?
Our daughter was in public school but we moved her to a private school at the first of the year because she was very behind in the public school and they refused to give her extra services. Since moving her to the private school we have found out that she does have learning disabilities, which means that she would need to return to the public school since the private school doesn't have special education services available. She has learned a lot while in the private school because of the small class size and a teacher that spends a lot of time with her and we know that she has learned much more than she would have if she had stayed in the public school.
Now the public school is wanting her to repeat the grade when she returns there in the fall. Yes, the very same public school that refused to help us before and actually blew off my questioning if she had learning disabilities now only has a "repeat the grade" attitude. The problem I have with that is that she has proven on testing done at Sylvan learning center that she is academically half way into her current grade, so if she repeats the grade she will be bored for half of the year because she knows that material.
Therefore we're considering home schooling but don't know how effective this might be with her learning disabilities. Does anyone else do this? How did you find out about the techniques you needed to teach your child so that they could learn? We know that she has an average IQ so that's not a problem - it's just getting her brain to process the information correctly.
Thank you.
Upset with my child's school -- failed eye exam
First, the facts. My child has retinitis pigmentosa. His vision is 20/200 without glasses and his best corrected vision is 20/70. I have taken him to the specialists at the University of Michigan and the prognosis is not promising. He is only 8 years old and I don't feel he needs to know the true extent of what his future might hold. He inherited this through me, as my parents were both blind, and this is a congenital defect.
He came home from school yesterday and informed me they were all tested by the Health Department with an eye exam, which, of course, he failed miserably. He informed the technician that he could not see the chart, so she told him "just guess." Then he was asked if his glasses were old, that he might need new ones, and he informed me that she would be sending me a letter stating he needs an official eye exam and new glasses.
So, before I blew my top, I went to the school office this morning. I asked to see my child's emergency contact sheet, which includes a section regarding existing medical conditions. There it was, plain as day, stating all of his ophthamologic conditions. I feel this information should have been checked by their staff before they administered and unnecessary test on my child. I informed the principal that I did not want him subjected to any more visual testing (which they plan to repeat in two years). They didn't seem to understand why I would not want this free testing. I asked them if they would perform a hearing test on a child with a hearing aid -- then they finally got my point. I think permission slips before testing might be appropriate.
Because my biological child is a high school science teacher who
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I still think it should be the parents who teach the child these things, not the school's place.
Each child goes to school to learn facts. They learn their social skills, values, etc.at home and from friends that their parents allow them to associate with. The school is a public entity full of many INDIVIDUALS who all have different values and opinions. Teachers should not be teaching children their own personal values and should leave that to the parents.
why not make Christmas nice for my own child?
the current economic situation has not allowed us to do very much this year. This is a gift from heaven for us!
I wish they'd make a board for ESL/illegal alien opinions so I can avoid it.
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so what you're saying is that if your child lost her coat you would make her go the winter(sm)
without one simply because someone ELSE may have stolen it? Wow.
Could she go to the office to make the call after school? sm
or borrow a friend's cell phone to call after school, so she doesn't have the cut into lunch?
Also, about the cell phone, I got my daughter a TracFone which can be relatively inexpensive for times like this. It is not for chit-chat, just to make quick calls to home for times like this.
School decided to make a new class/2/3rd graders
I get a message on my phone this weekend from principal saying my daughter was selected to be put in a 2/3 grade class. She is in 2nd grade. I think personally something else is up. Why such a great class being formed in January??? and why call on the weekend? She's not that upset about it, but we just moved to the area and this starts this morning. So now she had to meet new friends and now new friends again. Not sure how I should handle this. I'm upset, but at same time, might not be a bad thing. I do want to let them know I'm not pleased though.
If OP didnt bother to make call to school about this,
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Make sure whatever you use for skewers aren't considered a weapon by the school. sm
Some schools are absolutely militant about anything that even looks like something that might be used as a weapon, no matter the reason or who has it.
I don’t think you have much to fuss about
being as you are taking your kids along. I personally would have made plans for my friend and me, not dragging the kids along. Do not see how you can ask her not to bring a boyfriend when you are bringing your kids.
No muss, no fuss, no spouse -
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Are you saying you want the unruly ones, the ones who fight and fuss, have the beer
parties, conflicts all the time, loud, obxious music? All the neighbors around here are very quiet and decent ones. I think they are lovely- none of that low class acting out. I can tell from the posts that a lot of people apparently must like all that drama plus all the friction coming with it. To each their own.
I remember those days too, but these days they don't want make any child felt left out. They wan
to make each of them feel special and that they have accomplished something. My 8-year-old brings a certificate of some kind during the day, accelerated reader award, trustworthy award, jr. achievement award, etc. I guess in a way, no one kid is pointed out as the "teacher's pet" or have the other kids being jealous of him/her for getting this or that award.
Dept of Wage and Labor?
? about Wy Dept. of Corrections Job Stability ? sm
Does anyone know about job stability at the prison there? My husband works there. We are separated, with a divorce likely very soon.
While trying to sift through his words versus true objectivity during this homework project, I want/need as much info as possible. I believe they are union, but not sure. He told me not long ago that he was getting paid $10 an hour, which I don't believe (he already draws pension from a previous police job).
He worked for the Marshal's Service/PD in either Rawlins or Hanna (I think it's Hanna), and was let go in 2008, reportedly due to budget cuts. I did believe that.
Any info would be appreciated, even a crystal ball!
Thanks!
I still think you should contact your police dept...
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Call the school. I had a threat like this in my high school and they cancelled school that day.
Thankfully, because the person making the threats was found with material for home made pipe bombs and quit a bit of ammunition and a shotgun. He was arrested and charged. Never allowed back in the school.
I think it would be safer to call the school and get classes cancelled for a day to investigate versus make a scene in the parking lot, especially if the student with the knife is inside with the knife.
Good luck. If nothing happens, pull your child out of school for a week. See what happens. I know that sounds horrible, but small towns is where this happens most often.
AMEN sister!! and do you know in the health dept there are signs all over saying sm
you don't have to be a citizen to apply for benefits? so we as taxpayers pay to support them to be here illegally, we feed them, we shelter them, we pay their bills, we have to pay extra because the company had to pay an employee extra who could speak their language, yet they are dropping the pay in fields like roofing, construction where they pool together and do this type of work for a little of nothing so the american legal person can't make a living off of it anymore.
Well, have to get the word out. How many of you are familiar with Belk Dept. Stores? sm
Well, they bought out our local Parisian Dept. store, promised to come in to our town, buy the building (in our local mall), and then backed out at the last minute. We live in a town of over 300,000. Anyways, so there is no longer any store there in the mall. They are just like Macy's. etc.
They have THE POOREST CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER (via phone) I've ever encountered. They don't even bill on a 30-day billing cycle, so my payment was due TODAY when I always thought it was the 6th of every month (I last made a payment Oct. 6 and thought I'd pay my bill a few days early) only to find out that the bill would be considered late if not paid by 5 p.m. EST. If I paid it on line like I always do, you MUST make the payment date at least 2 days later than today's date (makes no sense) so next month I would be LATE and charged 35.00. So I call to make a payment. This rude lady tells me: Go into a store and make a payment. I tell her, "well, we don't have a store within 200+ miles of my home since you guys never did come here," Then she says, "Well, you can pay by phone today by 5 but it will cost you an extra 15.00." So, I'm livid. She gets her supe on the phone who is rude as h*** and tells me that she wasn't the one who decided to pay late! OMG!
So, I call husband very upset. To make a long story short, I finally paid it after 3 LONG PHONE CALLS to these fools (all 3 of them were extremely rude). One guy put me on hold for 15 minutes (I counted!!) after I asked to speak to his supervisor and he gets back on the phone (minus his supervisor) after being put on hold and then I finally pay part of my bill.
Thank GOD Belk isn't around here. Sounds like a godsend.
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE if you work hard, don't shop there! They SUCK** and I will NEVER shop there!!
Transcription dept. supervisor at a medical clinic.
loss prevention officer for major dept store - nm
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I used to do plainclothes security work for a major upscale dept store - sm
Summer was my best time to arrest the teenage girls. They did not seem to take it seriously until the police showed up to take them downtown. I did have a few concerned mothers come by the store to speak with me. Just a lot of temptation out there...I would say to be very suspicious of clothing and such that seems to appear without having the money to pay for it.
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Call the principal as well
It's nice to hear someone be concerned about a child who is not their own. I agree with the other posters, call the adviser, but after that I would call the principal and reiterate my concerns for this student and the possible consequences of giving her free rant space.
The article said he had to get the principal's -sm
signature on a form allowing him to go, which the principal did sign (which says he can go obviously) but then said, well if you go you will be suspended even though I said it was okay. What total nits.
Welfare
How do I feel about welfare?
1. I believe in what the Bible says about if a man asks for you coat, give him you cloak also. My church teaches that we give if asked, and we have done what we are suppose to. If they were underserving, then that is on them.
2. Don't judge. When my husband and I divorced, I was raising 3 children, working, and going to college to learn to be a MT. I could barely pay the rent. The ONLY thing I did not have to worry about was food, because I received food stamps. I HATED it. I saw people roll their eyes when I got out my food stamps. I cried all the way home. On my birthday, my best friend told me my birthday gift was having my nails done (something I had never done). I went with her when she had her nails done and thought it was such a luxary. Well, she took me to get my nails done for my birthday, and someone from my church saw me there. That person went to my pastor and said they would never help anyone in the church again, because if I could afford to get my nails done, the I did not need help. Not only was I embarrassed about the situation, but I was hurt that someone had judged me.
3. Be grateful you don't have to use food stamps. When I finished school, I was elated after I got a good job and did not have to use food stamps. When I saw someone having to count out their food stamps in front of me, I was sad for them but glad that they got some help. I also would busy myself so as to not embarrass them.
Yes, some people abuse the system, but I would rather 10 people abuse the system than 1 person and/or family go hungry.
This is just my opinion. Please do not bash me. You can't say anything I have not heard before, believe me.
How do you know she will be on welfare? (nm)
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I would have a meeting with principal or teacher.
Wow, how inappropriate of that teacher! I would definitely talk to the teacher's higher ups or to the teacher personally. That is unacceptable. Your poor daughter! Could she possibly be switched to another class instead of swimming for now? That gym teacher seriously crossed the line into territory that was none of his/her(?) business and will probably continue to do it to her and others if no one stops him/her(?). I would be very upset if I were you too!
principal should not have signed the form
if the student was not allowed to go. By signing the form, he gave permission. Therefore, the student should have no problems getting his diploma. He has the principal's signature saying it was okay to go, which is better than words saying he should not go.
maybe she collects welfare and does not tell you.
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This goes toward the conversation on welfare below
Remember that conversation about single moms, welfare and foodstamps?
I was reading an article on MSNBC today. This man ended up in just the situation I was talking about. Read the whole article. Pay attention to the fact that it mentions medical bills and reverse mortgages.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29198366/
Teachers........sm
I understand the feelings about some teachers and the views that they get a good deal for doing nothing. When my children were in school, they had good teachers and some just downright horrible teachers that should never be teaching children. I think it depends on where you live also. They grew up for the most part in Florida and the community we were in had great schools.
Because of my husband's job, we moved to an area where the schools were less than desireable, but my kids were in advanced placement classes, which meant they were getting a better deal. I did see how this local system was dumbing down kids because a lot of them just come from homes where parents just plain ole don't care. Many problems, and they TOO think it's all the teacher's fault if their kids aren't passing. Strange that they never feel it is their responsibility to see their child is passing, but then again, so many of them are used to getting freebies and everything given to them without working for it, it never phases them they are actually supposed to raise their own child and not the school system.
That being said, my daughter now teaches in that system and I have to say, she has made a difference that is amazing. The testing scores (which personally she hates all the standardized testing but is forced to do by your government) have gone up tremendously with her classes, the highest in the school. Yes, she DOES WORK MORE than 8 hours a day. She has to be there at 7 and can't leave until 4:30....last time I checked that was 9-1/2 hour days. She has to eat with her children, and any "break" she gets is spent tutoring children to catch up or doing endless paperwork for the No Child Left Behind garbage. Her children truly love her and it shows. She worries endlessly about them, knowing so many of them go home where the parents aren't there, they work nights shifts, the children are alone all night. They don't eat dinner..many of them have only one meal and that's the one at school. She takes food to school and sticks it in their backpacks to take home because their lazy parents could care less and many are not even there at night. Some go home on Friday and don't eat again until Monday at school.
Don't blame the teachers for low performance at school. Teachers cannot MAKE lousy parents into good caring parents, they can't make the parents stop bar hopping and slutty mothers stop bringing home a different man every night and the kids see this trash. Teachers can't make the parents see that the children do their homework. They're not allowed to tell the parents to grow up and raise their child and stop acting like children themselves. Some of the kids come back to the school after hours to sit with her in the classroom because they dread going home because no one is there and they are scared. No doubt, there are a few bad apples when it comes to teachers, but there are WORSE parents who are responsible for the lack of their child's performance in the school system.
No one could pay me enough to put up with the trash she has to put up with every day. And to boot, at this school she has a joke of a principal who DOES GET A BONUS, not the teachers. And where is this 4% raise every year. She isn't getting it. She does not get this glorious paycheck you refer to and during the summer, she is tutoring kids to keep them from failing their grades against all odds. She spends her own money and does without herself, to buy things for the children they should have but don't. I personally have bought shoes and things their parents should get off their butts and get their children. These mothers seem to be able to afford expensive hairdos and fingernails, but can't afford shoes for their kids? The fathers....well, who knows where in the h*** they're at.....producing more babies I'm sure. When parents grow up and realize their responsibility to their children, then maybe the school can get better. Teachers are not supposed to be their parents, but many feel they have to be.
Followup - phone call with the principal....sm
I sent an e-mail to the principal this morning outlining my displeasure with the results of yesterday's meeting and CC'd our school board representative. Within a few minutes the principal was on the phone and asked me what I wanted them to do to educate our child. I told her that they're the educators, not me, and that they need to be the ones to figure out a reasonable game plan to get her caught up and educated during the school day. She then reiterated that they don't have the resources to work with her exclusively and won't unless she gets at least 6 months behind, at which point they'd then test her for potential learning disabilities and screen for special education consideration.
The school board representative sent me an e-mail that she'll be calling me tomorrow to discuss the situation. Hopefully by making the school board know that I'm not happy someone will intervene to educate her now and not wait 4 more months to give serious consideration.
Of note, my sister lives an hour away and her school district is completely different. Her son is ADD and is now a junior in high school. All throughout his elementary, middle and high school years there the teachers and schools have been great about working with her and him to keep him out of special education classes, and when needed at times they got parapros to work with him. I hear so many flip-flop stories about school systems and how some really work well with parents and meeting needs and others don't want to do what they're required to do until forced to do so.
We are hoping to be able to move out of our district hopefully next summer but that will depend on whether or not we can get our house sold. Rest assured that we won't move to a new area without my making sure that the schools my daughter will attend are willing to work with us to keep her out of special education and mainstreamed.
I totally agree with you... did you get a response from the principal?
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I agree with moral principal and ethical value
Yes! Our leader should have those without a doubt.
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