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LOL- and he has the nerve to preach to the average person - hahah)sad -people believe him

Posted By: Indy on 2007-03-19
In Reply to: Gore cares? - don't make me laugh

 


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I am not here to preach sm
but do you mind if I ask what makes you believe this? In the future I will be following this lession with what different people believe and why. I totally respect all beliefs and if given the chance I would try to change your mind, but I totally respect your decision. Thank you for responding.
I think it's better to meet people in person around where
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You think gay people are the equivalent of a person

Addiction to anything is a disease, an illness, a condition.  An addiction to drugs is no different than someone obese with an addiction to food.  Come on!  You are out in left field on this one.


 


hahah.. that was the SAME time they showed this other clip
little football uniform, all yelling "it's not fair!" lol.
Embryos are NOT people. They are cells, not a "preborn person" . nm
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You're so right and since the average age
of sexual activity is around 15 or 16, wouldn't you say most girls have had quite a few partners by the time they are married? I remember what we called THOSE girls back in the day! MORALS no more is right! It's pretty disgusting.
wellllllll - I'm average now - but
have been below and above - aiming for below again!
I'm well above average then!! ROFL!!
NM
$250 a month is average for us.
We live in a TINY 1-bd condo and pay an average of $250 a month. We don't use heat or air and have quit using our dishwasher and have decreased our hot water usage. We unplug everything we are not using. We have been able to knock about $75 off our bill by doing these few things. Right now the only electricity we use is for our appliances (fridge, stove, etc.), lights only at night and when we absolutely need them, and for the TV and computer. We are seriously looking into solar as soon as we buy our new home as the electric rates here are crazy and can't imagine what it would be if we lived in a larger home.
Average size woman
Just heard that the averge size woman in America is 12 to 14.  Finally, I am above average in something.
average size of women
I belive this used to be the average size when I was a kid in the 50s and early 60s.  I remember helping my mom shop for dresses and patterns for dresses and she wore a 12.  My mom looked no larger or smaller than most other women those days even though she was small boned and wore petite size or whatever it was called then.  Of course, they could have changed the way they figure sizes since then.  She looked healthy and normal.   
We eat out an average of 4 times a week...
linch and/or dinner. We usually spend about 20-30 for lunch and 30-50 for dinner. We vary our restaurants, don't do fast food or buffets. and stay away from chains like Applebees or Red Lobster and the like. I don't like places where every dish tastes the same just drenched in a different gravy or sauce. We used to like Olive Garden several years ago, but that is so non-Italian now it's not worth it, just your average pasta drenched in some too cheesy, fattening sauce. We have a great Japenese sushi/steak house near us, a great prime rib place, a vegetarian restaurant that I love.
I've heard that the average lifespan...sm

For Siberian Huskies is 10-12 years, but that 13, 14, 15, even 16 or 17 years old isn't all that uncommon for the breed.  Overall, they are a very healthy, hardy breed (at least they should be...) especially compared to some other breeds. 


My husband loves Rotties, for example, and there's a terrible problem with bone cancer and other cancers in Rotties.  There seems to be a genetic predisposition to it in the breed, and research is being done on that.  We lost our second Rott at just 5 yrs old due to osteosarcoma in his front leg.  After having the limb amputed, he did well for a few months, then the cancer came back.  It was heartbreaking to lose him at such a young age.  We lost our first Rottie to bone cancer too (in her hip), at 10 yrs old. 


But with my Siberians, my first 2 (not related to each other in any way) lived to be very nearly 16 years old, and died basically due to old age, no cancer.  I just lost my sweet old girl Alexx last month, on 01/10/2007.  She would have been 16 yrs old on 04/02/2007.  I still can't believe she's gone.  I still walk into the kitchen expecting to see her there, napping.     


My remaining Siberian is 12 years old and going strong, fiesty as ever, but he has had cancer.  He had a major, en block resection a little over a year ago where the specialist took out a football-size area of his thorax, including a portion of 3 of his ribs(!).  Talk about traumatic (for me, my dog did fine! LOL).  It was a recurrence of a spindle cell sarcoma, first noted and removed (and much smaller) 3 years earlier.  *Hopefully* it won't come back again in his lifetime. 


I've used Frontline and Frontline Plus off and on over the years for fleas.  We've never had ticks.  And since moving to where we are now, not far from Palm Springs, our vet's office has said fleas and ticks aren't a problem here, so Frontline isn't necessary.  I was skeptical about that at first.  But so far they're right, and we haven't had to use anything for fleas or ticks, which is a nice surprise.  I do worry about the fact that such strong chemicals are put right on their skin (and I would stay away from Hartz flea/tick products too, from what I've heard), but as far as it maybe causing cancer, I don't know.  


BTW, my advice to all pet owners is to consider pet insurance.  We use Veterinary Pet Insurance: 


http://www.petinsurance.com/


I think it's worth it for the peace of mind alone, so you don't have to worry so much about the cost if your pet needs expensive vet care. 


Our utilities are higher than average here too (Nipsco) SM

and ethanol is not really good for Indiana either. BTW, I get my milk at Walmart, it's cheaper. My kids are older, so we only use it for cereal.


 


 


They all have flaws, obviously you put up with more or are more laid back than the average woman. LO
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Since I'm not average sized, it's hard for me to find really nice fitting clothes.
But I do know how to sew, just haven't done it for a long time. I have stacks of really lovely fabrics, from wools to silks in my attic. Lots of it is inherited stuff that is now vintage. I have a serger and a good machine, and lots of beautiful classic patterns. I did make a nice wrap dress for the holidays, so I've been inspired to do more. What I'd like to do is find a really good used dress form somewhere... maybe ebay. It's so much easier to tailor the fit if I can stand next to a dress form, exactly my size, and adjust the pattern and seam lines. You can't do that while you are wearing an incomplete garment with pins in it! It's like trying to cut the back of your hair for yourself.
What nerve.... the little....
I would have gone up one side and down the other of that father. I would have made him look like a fool in front of his own kid! OOOH I wish I was there. What a nutjob!!!!!!
I do not let anyone get on my last nerve, if they try
I would stop that short. My father who was elderly was calling and calling. I moved and did not give my new number and it was four months before I sent that to him. Talk about peace. You can also get call blocking, have the caller sent to another number- perhaps cell phone??, lots of ways for folks not to bother.
Getting on this last nerve
I recently went to upgrade my kitchen counters to granite. Found a place close by and pleased with the price. However, there is a foreign person who owns and not that I mind that, but she keeps making these little digs about not being able to afford (I asked price up front and would do if I had $10 or 10 million), does not want me to go in debt for something (told did not want to do credit and did not want to take $$$ out of bank because would be penalized if taken out before maturity on my CDs and want to pay cash when property closes next month). Folded contract up and told me to come back when I could afford. Maybe this is just the way she talks because of being from another country?? Sold a rental home last year, selling another property next month and have my new home so barely qualifying for food stamps. I want to buy there but feel like I am having to prove or compete even with her remarks. Any come backs or would you just chalk it up to she really does not know how to talk to prospective buyers?
last nerve
If it were me, I'd definitely take my business elsewhere. That is just outright rude and if she isn't able to deal courteously with her customers she should not be in a customer service position. She should hire salespeople who know how to close a sale, not drive people away like she is doing. Tons of places sell granite countertops - who needs the aggravation? Definitely point out to her that she is rude, and that you are taking your business elsewhere.
Wow! Was a nerve hit???
I didn't think the OP was harsh. I'm not a grandmother yet, but I'm the mother of 18- and 20-year-old sons. Many of my friends are grandparents now, so I think I can speak for some of us in my generation regarding what we went through growing up. Most grandparents today grew up in the 1960s and 1970s. Those were pretty crazy times. I know grandparents who attended Woodstock. I've been to Ozzy Osbourne-Black Sabbath concerts where the air was thick with the aroma of weed and fellow concert goers were having sex in the seats next to us. So, yeah, we understand what it's like to grow up in that sort of culture, and we also know what it's like to raise kids in the moral-desolving pressure cooker of the current culture. You make it sound like all grandparents walked off the set of "Leave it to Beaver". That's just not the case. By the end of the 1960s and into the 1970s the pendulum had started to swing so far toward women having careers that we were often belittled for choosing to be home with the children. Remember Hillary Clinton's cookie baking comment during her husband's first campaign? In fact, stay-at-home moms were the norm for only one brief period in our history right after WW II in the post war boom times. There was a pretty awful recession in the 1970s, and I remember gas rationing and long lines at the pumps. My mother had to work two jobs, and my father, who was in construction, was often one of the first to feel economic ups and downs in his paycheck. But we had dinner together every night at the kitchen table. Before the stay-at-home mothers of 1950's t.v. fame, most mothers worked. They had to. Only the very privileged stayed home and waited for Ward Cleaver to come home from the office. My grandmother, who lived to be 94, God bless her soul, was born in 1908. Her mother died during the great Spanish flu epidemic in 1918. My grandmother was the eldest of four children, and at the age of 10 she became the woman of the house. She stopped going to school so that she could cook and clean and took care of her father and siblings. And no one thought that was wrong. It was expected because there really weren't any government social services -- no welfare, no foster care. Eventually, when her father's depression over the loss of his wife became so great that he couldn't manage to bring home an income, people in the neighborhood just took over. The two eldest children went to live with other families. The two youngest went to an orphanage. My grandmother's father just drifted away and his children never saw him again. My grandmother married at age 20 and had four children during the depression. Talk about having it hard. When I was a young mother trying to make ends meet and I'd cry to my grandmother, she brought me around to reality. She told me what it was like for her to raise children during that time. Many a night she cried over whether or not she could even feed her children or if they would have a roof over their heads. And she wasn't alone. Everyone, and I do mean everyone, was in the same boat. The Great Depression was enormous. She and my grandfather worked wherever and whenever they could. They brought home a dollar or two at a time and fed their children buttermilk and potatoes. They didn't sleep, they worried all the time. Today, my grandmother's washboard hangs in my kitchen on the wall next to my dishwasher. It reminds me that I have no right to ever say that things are harder on us today. They aren't. Generally speaking, most Americans have so many more advantages, choices and opportunities than those who came before us. Yet many in my generation and the one or two generations behind me are just whiners and crybabies who don't think about the big picture. They even dare to say they have a harder time as parents today. Please. Not even close! Every generation seems to believe that, but just a short trip through a history book proves otherwise.

I'm not that very old. But I've raised my children and I raised them well. I know what it takes to do that. It takes self-discipline, sacrifice and consistency. And you know what? That's exhausting. Parents today are tired. So what? All parents are tired. Offer it up, as the old nuns used to say. The kids have homework an hour a night. So what? They should have homework, and parents should make sure that it gets done, because education is important. There are parent-teacher meetings to attend, coaches association meetings, scout meetings, dance lessons, school recitals, etc. etc. etc. So what? Balance it out, quit what can't be done, do what can. Work because you have to. The kids have to be fed. It's still easier than it was a generation ago, two generations ago, three and on and on. We're parents to young ones for only a short time. Which reminds me, let's not forget about birth control. Most of us have 2-point-whatever children these days. I'm the youngest of 7. Most of the families in my neighborhood when I was growing up had 4 or more children. Today women can choose to have as many or as few children as they want. That means that we parent for far fewer years than the generations before us. I'm done with day-to-day parenting after just 20 years, and in fact, it got much easier on my day-to-day schedule once my boys were in high school. But my mother had children at home for 34 years. Imagine the number of cloth diapers for 7 children for year after year after year. Yes. I had it far easier, and I know it. So when I was exhausted raising my two boys, I just sucked it up and kept at it.

The OP, I think, probably didn't want to be as blunt as I'm willing to be. She IS helping by babysitting her grandchildren while her children work. I'm sure she loves her children and grandkids, but I'm willing to bet that if she dared to say to her children the things I've posted, her children would react just as you did and she'd end up cut off from her family.

To the OP: I hope it helped to vent a little, and I want you to know that I understand.


Are you a night person or a morning person?
Just curious . . .
Ridiculous. I can't believe the nerve of
Would make me want to take it to the School Board, but I understand about whether or not it is worth the trouble . . . don't know what they would be able to do, but she should at least, at the very least, be reprimanded. Perhaps moving her into the middle school or high school would be punishment enough. LOL!

Hope you guys have a Merry Christmas despite her spoiling Santa.
The lizard gets on my last nerve.
The caveman cracks me up. 
Looks like you struck a nerve

j/k


Kids are going to have accidents and get hurt, no matter how much you try to avoid it. How many times have you mothers out there been busy cooking or taking a shower or doing any of a hundred other necessary daily-life activities and your child has come to you with a bruise or scrape or cut or whatever? IT HAPPENS. No matter how good a mom you are, no matter how hard you try. No one is perfect and no, mothers don't really have eyes in the back of their heads.


So come on, everybody take a deep breath and RELAX, okay?


Okay you have touched a nerve with me
I have a HUGE issue with the way disability/welfare is set up. I have written several letters to my representatives. I happen to live in Indiana and I have learned a few things.

Once a person in Indiana is eligible for disability, they will NEVER review that person's case...... unless someone has reported them and even then, that is not a guarantee. They do not check to see if they are making followup appointments or any such thing.

It is very hard to disprove mental disability. I personally know someone who went in and said they were "hearing voices" and started to receive disability benefits within a few months. My father had COPD, cancer, and other health conditions that kept him from working; keep in mind that he worked 35+ years in the same place, not like he didn't have a good work ethic. He applied and was turned down twice. It took the help of an attorney and after two and a half years, he was finally approved.

I was also told that the turnaround for the ones who decide who receives and doesn't is unreal. It was conveyed to me that there is not a panel of people who do the decision making... it is one person who makes the decision. This person may be very new and not sure what to do. One person may be quick to deny and one may be quick to allow benefits.

When I made the suggestion that EVERYONE who is on disability be required to routinely take a drug test, I was informed that the federal law has allowed each state to make that decision. Indiana has yet to do that. My thinking is, sure it is costly to do a drug test but you figure the cost of that would be a whole lot less than the cost of helping those who are not helping themselves. Let's see if the ones who should be taking certain prescription drugs are indeed taking them and let's see who is involved with illegal drugs and IMMEDIATELY drop them.

I am sure there are a whole lot out there who are on disability or welfare, collecting $$$, receiving food stamps, lliving in government subsidized housing, free healthcare, prescriptions, etc.

I was told by one representative that everyone who has concerns NEEDS TO WRITE TO THEIR REPRESENTATIVES and voice their concerns, lobby, etc. I was also told that those emails that have people add their names too, etc. don't carry much weight. They want to hear personal experiences, concerns, etc.

I URGE EVERYONE OF YOU TO WRITE TO YOUR REPS.... and voice any concerns you have.... talk to your friends, family, etc....

I apologize for any typos in this... I am short on time... as I HAVE TO WORK. ;)
Yeah, that would get on my last nerve. (sm)

I don't know about it being illegal to have them, but I would think they would at least need to keep them contained.  If that doesn't work:


2 lb. deer steak, tenderize cut in squares
1 green pepper, chunked
6 bouillon cubes, beef
5 tbsp. cornstarch
3/4 c. water
1 chopped onion
2 tbsp. oil


Place oil in frying pan, heat. Rinse blood out of deer. Place squares of meat in hot oil and brown. Add 4 cups water and 6 beef bouillon cubes. Simmer 1 1/2 hours. Add peppers, onions and cook another 45 minutes. Dissolve cornstarch with 3/4 cup water. Add to meat mixture. Cook another 35 minutes or until tender.

I think I struck a nerve with you because
your happiness is based on being taken care of and you would stay whether you were beaten, unhappy, cheated on, etc. As I said, I am a very secure person.
I seem to have struck a nerve...sm
Although this is not about me, I happen to hold two degrees - a bachelor's and a masters.

Now, if I am permitted on that basis to speak, please note that I offered no negative opinion about this individual. I don't know him, obviously. I merely advised caution and due consideration.

One of my degrees, incidentally, is in Security Management, and I'm a member of both the IACA and IALEIA, which are crime analysis and criminal intelligence associations, respectively, as well as ACFE, the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners. I teach courses in identity theft at the local community college. I think that I do know something about the cautions that I offered - which were NOT opinions about this individual.

As I said, I posted very reluctantly. Obviously, you do not appreciate the fact that when I did post it was because I was concerned.

Oh, and by the way...you know nothing at all about what I happen to know about my partner, so I'd appreciate it if you'd keep your venom to yourself because my post did not merit that kind of response. I do wonder, however, what it comes from, and if I had to make a bet, well...I'll let you finish it.
You hit a nerve?...that's hysterical! Surely I did!
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Ladies - I know this strikes a nerve with some of you (sm)
Just remember-everyone is different. The situation is not the same as yours as they are all different. I asked for opinions and I got them. I said I HAVE been making them go. I am just wondering if I SHOULD continue that. Some think I should and some think I shouldn't. This is not the same as your SIL telling you off or your DIL not letting you see your grandchildren. She sees them as much as she wants, any time she wants. I got to all the family functions she wants us to go to even if her son can't go. I help her when she is sick. I call her on the phone and check on her. We all spend several weeks throughout the summer at the lake with her. We spend EVERY holiday with her. How do you figure this woman is being short changed?? My own mother is the one being short changed - she lives 8 hours away. She never gets to see me or her grandchildren for holidays because my MIL would have a FIT if we were not at her house for these events. When we visit them once or twice a month, we spend ALL DAY at their house. How is she being cheated if she doesn't get every single thing she wants but does get at least 95%?????????
maybe a slightly pinched nerve? (sm)
I've had something like this happen before, mostly just took an anti-inflammatory and/or another hot shower to loosen up then tried to work through it...

Good luck!
That takes some nerve in my opinion.
It is not like you have any say so in your son's graduation, and in my book that would be more important to me than my nephew's wedding. It if interferes with the wedding, so what. There is nothing you can do about it.
Talk about nerve, this megamom has now set up
a website asking for donations. Well, I am going to set up a website asking for donations for my animal rescue. I rescue animals that otherwise would be put down, vet them, spay, neuter at my own cost and then try to find them a wonderful home. I am not adding to the problem (animals here) but hopefully helping the problem. She is getting food stamps, disability, said she would use her student loans for the children. Family and Children's Services should be knocking at her door before long. Talk about a Jolie wannabe.
Your hostility is strange. Must be hitting a nerve.
Maybe it's your conscience; otherwise you wouldn't care that other people see this differently than you do. It's not like anybody is going to track down your kids and spoil your fun, so you are the one overreacting.
I had nerve pain in my thigh for 15 years.
I finally figured out the cause of mine and it's gone, so I hope you can figure yours out too. Are the MDs saying nerve conduction studies wouldn't help them with it? Do you have hypermobile arches, where the ligaments are too loose and there is too much sag when you step down? If that is causing a nerve problem (and I just know it can cause pain to shoot straight up through the arch), then you would need to get just the perfect arch supports for your feet and NEVER go barefoot. Just a thought.

Good luck.
Your mother has some nerve and if she knew manners
she would know basically it is NOT her wedding, basically she has NOTHING to do with it and should keep her nose out of it. You or someone else needs to clue her in on where she stands, no where basically. Does she have some mental issues? If she put up that much fuss, I probably would disinvite her to the wedding and I am not playing. Don’t be spineless, tell her...
Thousands of nerve endings insignificant?

Well - as far as I know, the foreskin protects the glans.  It also keeps the glans moist and secretes antibacterial substances. Also, circumcision greatly desensitizes the glans, reducing the pleasure quotient for men. Did you know that?


That's a creative idea. I'd love to have a listen, but I'd never have the nerve to ask! n

OP


You might be compressing a nerve in your spine or neck. Get up often. Drink all day long. See your
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No, mine is elevated IOP without optic nerve change. I was just to see an ophthalmologist who
actually is from Wills Eye.  It is not to the point of doing anything now. 
It probably varies from person to person (sm)

With me, first child I was out of the bed seriously within 5 minutes of having him.  I didn't tear or have to be cut, he was 7 pounds, 3 ounces.  The doctor did some type of vaginal massage on me though while I was in labor and that was supposed to help loosen the vaginal wall?


Second child, same experience.  She was 8 pounds, 1 ounce and within 5 minutes of having her, while they took her to the nursery to get cleaned up and all, I walked downstairs with my husband to the cafeteria to get a drink and stretch my legs.  I had already put my regular clothes back on as well.  My doctor who delivered her was walking in my room as I was walking in and he was stunned a second and said he thought I was a visitor, LOL, not the patient.


I don't think you have to have bed rest in normal cases.  With my son I went home within 24 hours with him and with my daughter we went home in only 20 hours.


Brother found out he had nerve transposition in his elbows causing wrist pain. Had elbows done &
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you can give the people the facts, but the decision making process should be left to the people

This is what our country is founded on FREEDOM OF CHOICE!   I'm laughing already; you are just as mortal as the rest of us, and don' even attempt to that you've never done anything in your lifetime that was unsafe or unhealthy. NOT gonna buy it.


it is wonderful to see how many people have such strong opinions about people in debt.

I thought that the purpose of this board was to be able to post without being judged unfairly or have somebody tell you how wonderful their personal life is, and therefore you are causing their life to be less wonderful with your irresponsibility. Well, the saying "walk a mile in my shoes" is a good one in this case.  Since you have no personal information about the person you are lambasting because they are looking for information on their debt, you can feel superior.  Had you had personal information about them, you might act in a more human manner. Consider fighting cancer for 4 years, working and being debilitated while you do, suffering the effects of chemo, going into debt to maintain your home for your children and looking for a way out of debt SHOULD YOU EVEN LIVE THROUGH THIS!!  Thank you for the kind comments.  To the judgmental people I say please take a step back before you judge.  You do not know who you are talking to and if you knew the personal information maybe your comments would be kinder.


I get frustrated by the double standard they use when judging people. They let certain people go sa
What do you think about the voting process?
People who go around calling other people "low class"
have their own issues in life. Ignore them. Nothing like a misplaced superiority complex to make a person feel good about themselves. Like they've never done anything gauche or made a faux pas. It must be nice for them to be so perfect and live in a glass house.

For that matter, you probably saved your piggy's life by popping that mondo zit! It could have gotten infected or something.... (yes, I have a zit popping fixation myself, but you were really descriptive on that pig zit. gag LOL)

Man, you would have appreciated the time one of my relative's popped a HUGE cyst on her face. I was standing right next to her at the time and leaned back because I knew it was going to blow. It did! Big time! All over the wall, mirror and light fixture. I'm still disgusted by the thought of it 10 years later. LOL In a revering kind of way...
some people did, some people didn't. It's their choice.
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No, I am not that person...sm
Nor am I trying to be ugly...I think YOU come first in this situation.  If not, you'll get in deep trouble with your health, then what? Your family needs you...take care of yourself, and make your husband pitch in...that's all I'm sayin'
Who is this person?
I have no clue who this person is. 
I saw a person having 1 of those 1 day
and they could do like all the other people around, just ignored it. I was in a public building, guy down and frothing at the mouth, not a good scene but totally ignored.