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Klonopin is a wonderful drug but a benzodiazepam. Be aware of withdrawal.

Posted By: It was ~~brutal~~ on 2007-03-02
In Reply to: Anybody on Klonopin? - PAMT~MDM

I was placed on Klonopin during a stressful year when sleep was elusive, leaving me dragging all day.

It worked amazingly. But, there came a time I had to get off of it. I thought I could just stop taking it. Not so. The drug leaving my system placed me in a state that was far worse than the anxiety I took it for. For three months, I had ringing in my ears, was in an agitated state that I likened to listening to fingernails being scraped across a chaulkboard and then having that sound magnified a thousand times.

I watched a show that featured drug addicts in a methadone clinic and one person interviewed said that the worst drug to get off of was "bennies." Worse than heroin and methadone, and I believe him. I also came to realize there are many people hooked on these powerful drugs simply because the withdrawal is so very unpleasant to go through.

I suggest taking it periodically, never more than two weeks in a row. I only wish my doctor would have said that I would become physically addicted to it to the point that medical supervision would be required to stop taking it. Instead, they appeared to think I had developed "drug-seeking behavior" because of my anxious calls to the office when I was experiencing the symptoms.


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Anybody on Klonopin?
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withdrawal
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Withdrawal
Never heard of withdrawal symptoms from pot.

If you think pot is harmless, you need to educate yourself. They call it "dope" for a reason.

Sounds like you two deserve each other. The fact that you said "nor did I take his addiction seriously," is mind boggling.

What have your learned during your time as an MT????
withdrawal.......see what happens? just the thought! NM
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I know...I've been in withdrawal!! Can't wait either! : ) nm
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absolutely no physical withdrawal from quitting pot

There is absolutely no physical withdrawal from stopping smoking pot, it is a psychological dependency (as all habits begin that way).  Perhaps he indulges in other things that you are not recognizing..other drugs.....which would produce symptoms of withdrawal from them such as you describe.


lots have been there, done that - no symptoms whatsoever except perhaps a little agitated because they  wanted it....I have witnessed many who stopped/quit......from 15 to 65......


 


Or withdrawal from other drugs, wouldn't doubt it.
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Be aware
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I do believe that amazon has it though. or just type in TheSecret.com and it could take you to their website.
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Smart Alarmclocks, like me, that the smart clocks are not smart enough to know that the govt had to make yet another d*u*m*b move and change things (and the reason is???)and will not change to daylight savings time on the new date. now these Smart Alarmclocks will change to daylight savings time on the ORIGINAL date and change back on the ORIGINAL date, so we paid extra for something that is totally useless now....I want my money back or change the time back! which I thought was a useless idea in the first place!

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do be aware though...
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just be aware that--sm
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I am very aware
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I'm aware of that
As I noted in the previous post, I did say that the love I felt was for the man he isn't now. There also is a degree of romantic idealism at work here. Hard though it may be to believe, when I was a little slip of a lass, when I dreamed of my future spouse, it was of a dark-haired blue-eyed cowboy, living in the middle of nowhere, with a bunch of horses, and in R, I found that. The first time I laid eyes on him, my heart stopped, and even after being together about 2 years, even after all that had happened, that was still the case.

However, him serving time in jail at this point will, in essence, save me from myself. When his drinking would escalate to where I couldn't cope at all, I have run home and stayed there, shed my tears, etc. He would always contact me, begging me to "come home", saying he understood things needed to change, etc. I'm thinking that after I've sent him to jail, he's not going to be asking me back, and in a year, no matter how much I love him, I will have moved on in my life. To steal a cliche, I'm not one of those people where absence makes the heart grow fonder. I'm not exactly out of site, out of mind, but to maintain the psychological hold that he has, whether it's love or whatever, requires more ongoing attention that he is going to be able to provide from a prison 600 miles away without phone calls (I don't have a landline he can make a collect call to) or even email (I don't think they get those in prison, do they?).
Well aware, still a shock
when you see it laid out in black and white,and it becomes a reality.
I'm well aware of the statistics but

that's all they are.  You cannot make factual claims based on statistics.  I personally know of people with both pancreatic and ovarian cancer.  While the survival rates are grim, there are survivors.  Furthermore, the claim stated that he had 5 weeks to live.  Since when does a doctor stick an expiration tag on someone like that? I've worked for several oncologists and not one patient was ever given an expiration date as exact as that. 


Treatments do work and can shrink the size of someone's cancer, thereby increasing their survival rate and prolonging their life.  Your chance of survival is also based on many factors:  lifestyle, hereditary factors, early detection, methods of prevention, etc.  While many may eventually succumb to the disease, still some do survive.  I would never spread spread rumors with my source being a gossip column.  What does the name tell you? 


I'm well aware of such business ventures.
It is one thing to have legal international business ventures and quite another for our financial institutions to be actively pursuing illegal aliens in this country and offering them financial sanctuary.

Go douse yourself with some of that flea repellent, lol.


sorry...just ask. They're much more aware of music than you think! :) nm
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I was not aware this was a test question. SM
I answered honestly. I am sorry it was not to your liking. If you want me to agree with you, okay, your ex is nuts and call the police on him. Whatever.

Just remember one thing, troubled people tend to gravatate toward each other in life. Think about it.
I would say go for it. Just be aware of surroundings and people, but
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Some people are just not aware how dangerous
it is. I tried to talk with my sister-in-law about her husband (the half-brother of my husband). She has worked in the medical field. I was so sorry my words not heeded. I have been around him, seen him falling asleep just sitting down, the wreck, even out of town with my husband 1 night my DH told me about his horrible snoring, he is overweight but diabetic too and does not pay much attention to that. You cannot help where they don’t want it.
Being aware of it doesn't mean they would excuse it...SM
Especially with the bee in the bonnet that was obvious based on the follow-up post by OP. There ARE teachers and administrators who go on power trips.
I'm not aware of any standards at public places
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your being heard made her aware of her rudenss
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my point is I would like people to be aware that it is common (sm)
so there is not such a stigma about it. I don't think it is as big a deal as people make of it.
Were you at all aware of the 60s and 70s? That's exactly what the bulk of rock stars WERE doing!
fffff
that's not my intention. I just wanted to make him aware s/m
of how he was hurting my son's feelings. I do see your point, though. Hubby has never been violent...I will NOT tolerate that. He is just gets frustrated very easily and yells.
they are aware of it, not a virus, they fixed it once and are working on it NM
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Drug Problem--sm

>Different kind of "Drugging" - by Marsha Kelly


>


>The other day, someone at the store in our town read that a


methamphetamine


>lab had been found in an old farmhouse in the adjoining county and he


asked


>me a rhetorical question.


>


>"Why didn't we have a drug problem when you and I were growing up?"


>


>I replied, "I had a drug problem when I was young. I was drug to church


on


>Sunday morning. I was drug to church for weddings and funerals. I was


drug


>to family reunions and community socials, no matter the weather.


>


>I was drug by my ears when I was disrespectful to adults. I was also


drug


>to the woodshed when I disobeyed my parents, told a lie, brought home a


bad


>report card, did not speak with respect, spoke ill of the teacher or


the


>preacher, or if I didn't put forth my best effort in everything that


was


>asked of me.


>


>I was drug to the kitchen sink to have my mouth washed out the soap if


I


>uttered a profanity. I was drug out to pull weeds in mom's garden and


>flower beds and cockleburs out of dad's fields.


>


>I was drug to the homes of family, friends, and neighbors to help out


some


>poor soul who had no one to mow the yard, repair the clothesline or


chop


>some firewood; and, if my mother had ever known that I took a single


dime


>as a tip for this kindness, she would have drug me back to the


woodshed.


>


>Those drugs are still in my veins and they affect my behavior in


everything


>I do, say or think. They are stronger than cocaine, crack, or heroin;


and


>if today's children had this kind of drug problem, America would be a


>better place.


>


>God bless the parents who drugged us.


>


He has been drug tested....
for his job. I don't think that drugs or alcohol are involved.  We have considered it, but I just don't think that it the problem.  I certainly would never let him drive with my son if I was unsure.  I just don't know what it could be.  It would take a book to write down all of his issues.  The sad part is that his father dismisses it all because he does well in school and he is premed, but he just lacks any sort of personal character.  Being smart does not make you a good person and he is just not a good person.  I am still so sick to my stomach about this.  I feel like I am a bad person, having mothered this kid for 13 years and now I am just ready to wash my hands of him.  I am dead serious about that and it makes me ill.  I pray to God that I don't ever have these feelings about my son. 
drug store
loved the fountain drinks, miss the five and dimes like Woolworth's.
With their drug war going on & innocent
tourists getting caught up in the middle, not to mention how dangerous it can be even without a drug war going on... is it REALLY worth the risk? We have plenty of beautiful beaches right here in the U.S., and why not spend your tourism money to help out our own ailing economy. It is much better to be safe than sorry. JMO...
This drug testing is going too far - sm
I don't do drugs and I do know that there is a huge drug problem in America but turning around and testing for drugs for every single thing is going a bit far. Not everyone who is unemployed does drugs. In fact I can bet the people who are unemployed are probably using the money for basic necessities of daily living (food, shelter, electricity).

My dad (72 years old) is collecting unemployment and if he had to take a drug test to get his check that would be horrible. He's the most honest decent human being I know of.

A lot of people who collect unemployment don't do it because they want to, they do it because they have to. A lot of them are going through depression and then to turn around and have to take a drug test like they are criminals?...well why not treat them like crap more and add to the depression they are already going through.

Think this is just another way for government to take control and it is not a good idea. Usually the people who are for others being tested are church goers who think they are "holier than thou".

Bad idea.
This drug testing is going too far - sm
Why in the world would you think this is a good idea? I don't do drugs and I do know that there is a huge drug problem in America but turning around and testing for drugs for every single thing is going a bit far. Not everyone who is unemployed does drugs. In fact I can bet the people who are unemployed are probably using the money for basic necessities of daily living (food, shelter, electricity).

My dad (72 years old) is collecting unemployment and if he had to take a drug test to get his check that would be horrible. He's the most honest decent human being I know of.

A lot of people who collect unemployment don't do it because they want to, they do it because they have to. A lot of them are going through depression and then to turn around and have to take a drug test like they are criminals?...well why not treat them like crap more and add to the depression they are already going through.

Think this is just another way for government to take control and it is not a good idea. Usually the people who are for others being tested are church goers who think they are "holier than thou".

Bad idea.
Please be aware that St. John's wort with any SSRI or MAOI can be dangerous - sm
...unless your physician is aware that you're using it in addition to your Rx meds. (Other things, like 5-HTP, if I'm not mistaken) can have similar potentially dangerous side effects in combination with Rx antidepressants. Just sayin' ....
I had to go get drug tested today for my - sm
bus substitute driver job; they provided the car for us to go the clinic. Apparently they normally take the white car, but today we took the red car because the white one was being held as they found drugs in it last week. Kind of funny as it is a county car used only by the school employees; and mainly to go to drug tests. How un-smart is that? They still don't know who is the guilty party as the car had more than normal traffic in it last week. Guess they will figure it out though, I bet everyone that has been in that car for the last 2 weeks is getting drug tested; if you test positive you are immediately fired.
Try the company that makes the drug.
We got on a plan for my son through the company and he gets his meds free (Concerta) for at least the next year.
The 100K came way after the drug charges
The arrest came say 15 or 20 years before the 100K and the way they spend their money that $100K probably not around too long.
Has anyone ever been on Clomid - or any other fertility drug? sm
DH and I are having fertility issues and the doc has put me on Clomid but I have yet to get a positive ovulation stick (the kind you pee on), and I am getting frustrated.  Has anyone ever been on this?
A drug bust! Well there is no telling
what kind of life that dog had. That is very sad. You know, I had to admit but I use to be one of those people that said oh no a pitbull! They are mean, they will turn on you, but that all changed when I got a little pitbull puppy years ago that changed me. My pitbull taught me the true meaning of Don't believe everything that you hear, and only believe half of what you see.
Help on upgrading drug reference

Hi all,


I am seriously in need of upgrading my drug reference. I am still using Quick Look electronic 2004 and so many new drugs have been introduced in the past 4 years.  What would you recommend??  I just checked the Stedman's site and really cannot afford that kind of money right now.  Do any of you recommend a hard copy book that would keep me updated???  Thank you for any suggestions.


Can we drug-test the Senators too?
I don't think connecting unemployment benefits to drug-testing is a good idea. In fact, I don't think drug testing should be random at all. I think it should be reserved for cases that are on a need-to-know basis. And no, I have never used drugs, never tried them. It's a matter of civil liberties and constitutional rights against invasions of our privacy. Next thing you know, they'll be testing us for lipid levels after we're seen frequenting a house of trans-fats.

And while we're on the topic, decriminalizing drugs would go a long way toward reducing drug-related crimes. Nothing is perfect in this discussion though because drugs really are evil. It just becomes a matter of damage control.
I have taken many drug tests for many jobs...
and never felt like a criminal. It is just the way things are. I would far rather have drug users weeded out of medical positions,welfare and unemployment than to not take the test. I don't know why anyone who does not use drugs would feel humiliated by taking a test. Just my opinion.
That is what drug addicts and gold diggers do, unfortunately :(
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I think you do have to go all out. A therapist and drug screen would be first priority nm
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Talk to the maker of the drug in question. sm
Many drug companies have what they call "Indigent Programs". Don't let the name put you off. It is for people who cannot afford their medications and need them to live.

I worked in a urology office and the cheme seeds for prostate cancer cost approx. $1700.00 a month. The company had a program for the guys who couldn't afford it, the guys who had insurance that would only pay a miniscule amount, etc.

I had that problem when I was unemployed and my anti-depressants cost over $500 a month. The company that made them had a program such as that and it saved my sanity.

Look into it. You are only out the time it takes to fill out a form. Some of these are also income based, but please, don't let the name put you off. It is well worth the time you invest.

Good luck.
Checking for drug usage in unemployed
Just seeing where a senator from Florida wanting to have mandatory drug tests for people who want to apply for unemployment money. I think this is a great idea, what about you?
Just saw a report on news where they listed it as a dangerous drug
apparently caused something that looked like malignant polyps in the colon but other than that, people told not to take it on a first date, not good idea and you should maybe, starting to take for first time, wear dark pants. I guess that is so the orange diarrhea won't show through so much.
See, that's was exactly my initial response to the negative drug test. SM

I felt like relief that my son, even when faced with the temptation, resisted the urge to smoke pot with his friends.  I actually congratulated my son and told him how proud I was that he hadn't been taking any drugs or smoking pot.  But then I wondered if he should be punished for having a bong in his pack.  He obviously didn't use it, but why did he have it?


Now I think I may lift the grounding, but set some rules about him avoiding being around the 23-year-old guy and basically having him check in with me routinely when he is out and as long as he follows the rules, then I'll trust him.


Geez, I don't think I'm going to survive the teenage years and they've only just begun!  I can only hope that when my 7yo daughter reaches her teens, she will go a little easier on me!


Thanks everyone for listening and offering your advice.


she is on a multiple-times-per-week drug testing

Too bad - but If you always do what you've always done....you'll always get what you've always gotten.....if her kids are less important to her than her partying, druggin' ways...well, how one makes their bed is how they get to sleep in it.....no sympathy here....


K-Fed, in particular, stays clean FOR his kids....and I don't like or even know the guy, but I do know he IS the better parent from all that is shoved at us about these 2 and not just these 2 but all these rehab'd at-risk younger people....


oh and please don't think I don't have a heart - no flames - got my own family history of substance abuse that goes decades back...some even died....


But having kids is like G_d giving ya a second chance to GET IT RIGHT!!  Some people just don't get it....


JMHO (just my HUMBLE opinion)