Jails are overflowing because of insane drug laws.
Posted By: Those need changing. on 2008-02-11
In Reply to: costs $30-$40,000 per year to house each - inmate in America......WE pay that...s/m
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I don't know current laws or laws in your state but sm
I was told they had to have 3 complaints before they paid a visit so just relax now that you did your cleaning and are prepared. Always best to prepare for the worst! Good luck to you with the divorce. I could have said your story!
Definitely not in our jails
Unfortunately my friends son was in jail last year. They have it made, cable TV, he didn't have to go to school (16 or 17 at the time), games, able to go out periodically. When I worked in the legal system a lot of our clients wanted to go to jail when given the choice of jail or years of probation because they had it better there than at home. In Federal prisons, one of our clients had an Italian chef in the kitchen and a personal trainer!
Yeah, we call that DTs. Like the jails
don't have inmates come in like that EVERY DAY!
HAHA... YEAH... I can just see our county jails filling up with (sm)
scores of pregnant women who (gasp!) CLOSED THEIR EYES during the *mandatory* video-viewing.
Our dog has gone insane...
That is my only explanation, but then I always think that when someone (or whatever you call a pet....) does something that doesn't fit into my world.
She has taken to getting practically hysterical when put into her kennel!! She lives in the house, and typically gets put in an inside kennel when we leave for the day. She has always done great in it, and is only put in when we eat, go to bed, or leave the house. Even when we are home she tends to lay in it, she likes it. It has a bed, she takes one of her toys in with her when she goes in. In fact, I always tell her, its time for your kennel, go get a toy. She will race to her toy basket, dig around, pick one out, and take it in.
So the problem is, she has taken to getting to an hysterical whining/barking at night. I have had to get up in the night for the last week to see if she had to go to the bathroom or something. After a few nights of this, I thought ok, this is nuts, she has trained ME to let her out! She didn't have to go to the bathroom, didn't need a drink, just got out and started playing. Finally, on the third night of this, I dragged her kennel to the utility room and made her stay there, I can't hear her there. Husband said she kept it up all night, never settled down. So the NEXT night, when I put her in, I put her in a little earlier sop we didn't go RIGHT to bed, and made her lay down, thinking maybe she didn't like it that she was suddenly alone. (we also cover the entrance door with a cover so no light gets in her kennel, she sleeps better that way) She was fine, until we went to bed, then she started in. I went out, yelled at her to lay down and go to sleep. She resisted, but finally did it.
Last night would have been the first night I have done the new routine all the way through, make her go in a little earlier, making her lay down, but I had a bad night and ended up sleeping on the couch, and we never put her in. She was out all night laying on the floor next to me. I have a feeling that was a setback.
I drove husband to work this morning, and put her in her kennel as usual. For all she knew, we were going to work, not knowing I was coming back. When I walked in, she was hysterical again!! I heard her before I entered the house, so I know she was not doing it for my benefit. I yelled at her to knock it off and made her stay in until she did.
Now she is fine, laying in front of the fireplace sleeping. Any suggestions? She is driving me NUTS!!!
No and things have gotten insane concerning drugs
nm
Yes, insane. Her other 6 kids are ages 7 and
nm
WHY would you even post such a sickly insane question?
I have an insane idea- order both--- be interesting - sm
to see how many eat chicken and how many pizza. I have a SIL that is impossible to please when it comes to food. My mom would always call her though and ask her what she would like; then she'd make what we will all eating (Turkey, spaghetti, whatever) then also make skinless chicken (usually) for my SIL so she would have something to eat as well. Yeah she thought it was a pain to do but she did it to please her DIL. So again, I'd just suggest back to her, hey pizza is growing old, how about we get pizza and chicken, and you know mashed potatoes is not the only side, they also have mac n' cheese, cole slaw, rolls, etc. Have a mini buffet with pizza and chicken and have some fun.
insane woman's world suggestion
Did anyone see in the latest Woman's World the suggestion for work at home as an MT? It says work typing doctor's reports and make 14 cpl, or up to $28 an hour, and then lists MTjobs.com. Like you can just decide to do medical transcription, hop over there and snag a 14 cpl job.  That is insulting to medical transcriptionists, and frustrating to people who are made to believe they can just pick this up and do it.
I totally relate..my daughter AND my mother are driving me insane.
It's funny you should mention Melodie Beattie as I went online today to look for support groups and someone mentioned that book. When I saw the description of "copendency" it fit my daughter..in EVERY category, and I know that I, of course, fell into the "enabler" category. Between my daughter calling 15 times a day and my mother..I am ready to move away and let someone else deal with them for a while. In a way, my mother is like my daughter..she also calls for money. Ironically, she does not like my daughter because of what my daughter has put me through. Funny how she doesn't realize that she does the same thing..emotional manipulation..guilt trips. I just want to be mentally free from them, and for this, I am getting help. They have drug me into depression, along with them. They are both bipolar and I think I am almost there with them, because one minute I feel so happy and positive..and then they call..and I'm depressed. I pray for strength..Thanks for your kind words. I can't help them anymore but I can save myself.
Drug Problem--sm
>Different kind of "Drugging" - by Marsha Kelly
>
>The other day, someone at the store in our town read that a
methamphetamine
>lab had been found in an old farmhouse in the adjoining county and he
asked
>me a rhetorical question.
>
>"Why didn't we have a drug problem when you and I were growing up?"
>
>I replied, "I had a drug problem when I was young. I was drug to church
on
>Sunday morning. I was drug to church for weddings and funerals. I was
drug
>to family reunions and community socials, no matter the weather.
>
>I was drug by my ears when I was disrespectful to adults. I was also
drug
>to the woodshed when I disobeyed my parents, told a lie, brought home a
bad
>report card, did not speak with respect, spoke ill of the teacher or
the
>preacher, or if I didn't put forth my best effort in everything that
was
>asked of me.
>
>I was drug to the kitchen sink to have my mouth washed out the soap if
I
>uttered a profanity. I was drug out to pull weeds in mom's garden and
>flower beds and cockleburs out of dad's fields.
>
>I was drug to the homes of family, friends, and neighbors to help out
some
>poor soul who had no one to mow the yard, repair the clothesline or
chop
>some firewood; and, if my mother had ever known that I took a single
dime
>as a tip for this kindness, she would have drug me back to the
woodshed.
>
>Those drugs are still in my veins and they affect my behavior in
everything
>I do, say or think. They are stronger than cocaine, crack, or heroin;
and
>if today's children had this kind of drug problem, America would be a
>better place.
>
>God bless the parents who drugged us.
>
He has been drug tested....
for his job. I don't think that drugs or alcohol are involved. We have considered it, but I just don't think that it the problem. I certainly would never let him drive with my son if I was unsure. I just don't know what it could be. It would take a book to write down all of his issues. The sad part is that his father dismisses it all because he does well in school and he is premed, but he just lacks any sort of personal character. Being smart does not make you a good person and he is just not a good person. I am still so sick to my stomach about this. I feel like I am a bad person, having mothered this kid for 13 years and now I am just ready to wash my hands of him. I am dead serious about that and it makes me ill. I pray to God that I don't ever have these feelings about my son.
drug store
loved the fountain drinks, miss the five and dimes like Woolworth's.
With their drug war going on & innocent
tourists getting caught up in the middle, not to mention how dangerous it can be even without a drug war going on... is it REALLY worth the risk? We have plenty of beautiful beaches right here in the U.S., and why not spend your tourism money to help out our own ailing economy. It is much better to be safe than sorry. JMO...
This drug testing is going too far - sm
I don't do drugs and I do know that there is a huge drug problem in America but turning around and testing for drugs for every single thing is going a bit far. Not everyone who is unemployed does drugs. In fact I can bet the people who are unemployed are probably using the money for basic necessities of daily living (food, shelter, electricity).
My dad (72 years old) is collecting unemployment and if he had to take a drug test to get his check that would be horrible. He's the most honest decent human being I know of.
A lot of people who collect unemployment don't do it because they want to, they do it because they have to. A lot of them are going through depression and then to turn around and have to take a drug test like they are criminals?...well why not treat them like crap more and add to the depression they are already going through.
Think this is just another way for government to take control and it is not a good idea. Usually the people who are for others being tested are church goers who think they are "holier than thou".
Bad idea.
This drug testing is going too far - sm
Why in the world would you think this is a good idea? I don't do drugs and I do know that there is a huge drug problem in America but turning around and testing for drugs for every single thing is going a bit far. Not everyone who is unemployed does drugs. In fact I can bet the people who are unemployed are probably using the money for basic necessities of daily living (food, shelter, electricity).
My dad (72 years old) is collecting unemployment and if he had to take a drug test to get his check that would be horrible. He's the most honest decent human being I know of.
A lot of people who collect unemployment don't do it because they want to, they do it because they have to. A lot of them are going through depression and then to turn around and have to take a drug test like they are criminals?...well why not treat them like crap more and add to the depression they are already going through.
Think this is just another way for government to take control and it is not a good idea. Usually the people who are for others being tested are church goers who think they are "holier than thou".
Bad idea.
I had to go get drug tested today for my - sm
bus substitute driver job; they provided the car for us to go the clinic. Apparently they normally take the white car, but today we took the red car because the white one was being held as they found drugs in it last week. Kind of funny as it is a county car used only by the school employees; and mainly to go to drug tests. How un-smart is that? They still don't know who is the guilty party as the car had more than normal traffic in it last week. Guess they will figure it out though, I bet everyone that has been in that car for the last 2 weeks is getting drug tested; if you test positive you are immediately fired.
Try the company that makes the drug.
We got on a plan for my son through the company and he gets his meds free (Concerta) for at least the next year.
The 100K came way after the drug charges
The arrest came say 15 or 20 years before the 100K and the way they spend their money that $100K probably not around too long.
Has anyone ever been on Clomid - or any other fertility drug? sm
DH and I are having fertility issues and the doc has put me on Clomid but I have yet to get a positive ovulation stick (the kind you pee on), and I am getting frustrated. Has anyone ever been on this?
A drug bust! Well there is no telling
what kind of life that dog had. That is very sad. You know, I had to admit but I use to be one of those people that said oh no a pitbull! They are mean, they will turn on you, but that all changed when I got a little pitbull puppy years ago that changed me. My pitbull taught me the true meaning of Don't believe everything that you hear, and only believe half of what you see.
Help on upgrading drug reference
Hi all,
I am seriously in need of upgrading my drug reference. I am still using Quick Look electronic 2004 and so many new drugs have been introduced in the past 4 years. What would you recommend?? I just checked the Stedman's site and really cannot afford that kind of money right now. Do any of you recommend a hard copy book that would keep me updated??? Thank you for any suggestions.
Can we drug-test the Senators too?
I don't think connecting unemployment benefits to drug-testing is a good idea. In fact, I don't think drug testing should be random at all. I think it should be reserved for cases that are on a need-to-know basis. And no, I have never used drugs, never tried them. It's a matter of civil liberties and constitutional rights against invasions of our privacy. Next thing you know, they'll be testing us for lipid levels after we're seen frequenting a house of trans-fats.
And while we're on the topic, decriminalizing drugs would go a long way toward reducing drug-related crimes. Nothing is perfect in this discussion though because drugs really are evil. It just becomes a matter of damage control.
I have taken many drug tests for many jobs...
and never felt like a criminal. It is just the way things are. I would far rather have drug users weeded out of medical positions,welfare and unemployment than to not take the test. I don't know why anyone who does not use drugs would feel humiliated by taking a test. Just my opinion.
That is what drug addicts and gold diggers do, unfortunately :(
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I think you do have to go all out. A therapist and drug screen would be first priority nm
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Talk to the maker of the drug in question. sm
Many drug companies have what they call "Indigent Programs". Don't let the name put you off. It is for people who cannot afford their medications and need them to live.
I worked in a urology office and the cheme seeds for prostate cancer cost approx. $1700.00 a month. The company had a program for the guys who couldn't afford it, the guys who had insurance that would only pay a miniscule amount, etc.
I had that problem when I was unemployed and my anti-depressants cost over $500 a month. The company that made them had a program such as that and it saved my sanity.
Look into it. You are only out the time it takes to fill out a form. Some of these are also income based, but please, don't let the name put you off. It is well worth the time you invest.
Good luck.
Checking for drug usage in unemployed
Just seeing where a senator from Florida wanting to have mandatory drug tests for people who want to apply for unemployment money. I think this is a great idea, what about you?
ex in-laws
Thank you for your well thought-out reply. I plan on discussing this with him and at the same time will try to remain respectful of the fact that he loves his aunt. He is of course home for Christmas (and other holidays) and will be back here permanently around April. There are too many details of this situation to put on this board but I thank you again for your advice.
The in-laws
Hey, I am not sure if they are freaky, or not. I was raised in that church when I was young and switched as an adult. Since Matthew Winkler's father is also a COC minister it would be doubtful if he even knew about any of his son's warped proclivities (if he had them) since church members rarely, if ever, talk about things of that nature). It makes me sad to see that those grandparents are being labeled as warped just because of their religious beliefs. I must tell you that I have never met a member of that church who was a "bad person" and I have had exposure to lots of them. I have to wait and see the show. I am very interested in what she has to say. I would also like to see the in-laws go on the show to present their concerns. I think it would help everyone, including the children when they would be old enough to see it. So many times things like this go on with women and men we know and I think it is important to understand any signs to watch for so as to prevent what happened with their family from happening to anyone else. If, however, Mary is really guilty and just wanted a way out (which is a possibility) I believe the children belong with the grandparents and that Mary should relinquish her parental rights. It would be nice too if she would admit if she was truly an abused woman, or not. They can't try her twice.
Where do you think laws come from?
Most of man's laws are based on the Bible, the 10 Commandments usually.
I am not comparing gay people to criminals. Based on your statement that God expects us to be happy, regardless of what form that happiness might take, I am asking the question that, if it is okay with God for a person to be gay if it makes them happy, is it okay with him for a person to steal, commit adultery or murder if it makes them happy.
You changed the context of the subject, not me. And for what it is worth, there are still states in which sodomy is a crime, therefore gay sex is a crime. There is even a state where adultery and fornication are a crime. http://www.sodomy.org/laws/
I get this too...especially my in-laws...
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In-laws
I guess I lucked out with in-laws. When we married, I referred to his parents as "mom" and "dad" from that point on. When my SIL had kids, we *both* became aunts and uncles to them and DH is uncle to my sister's 2 kids. I don't think you're being sensitive and good for you for teaching your kids differently!
Just saw a report on news where they listed it as a dangerous drug
apparently caused something that looked like malignant polyps in the colon but other than that, people told not to take it on a first date, not good idea and you should maybe, starting to take for first time, wear dark pants. I guess that is so the orange diarrhea won't show through so much.
See, that's was exactly my initial response to the negative drug test. SM
I felt like relief that my son, even when faced with the temptation, resisted the urge to smoke pot with his friends. I actually congratulated my son and told him how proud I was that he hadn't been taking any drugs or smoking pot. But then I wondered if he should be punished for having a bong in his pack. He obviously didn't use it, but why did he have it?
Now I think I may lift the grounding, but set some rules about him avoiding being around the 23-year-old guy and basically having him check in with me routinely when he is out and as long as he follows the rules, then I'll trust him.
Geez, I don't think I'm going to survive the teenage years and they've only just begun! I can only hope that when my 7yo daughter reaches her teens, she will go a little easier on me!
Thanks everyone for listening and offering your advice.
she is on a multiple-times-per-week drug testing
Too bad - but If you always do what you've always done....you'll always get what you've always gotten.....if her kids are less important to her than her partying, druggin' ways...well, how one makes their bed is how they get to sleep in it.....no sympathy here....
K-Fed, in particular, stays clean FOR his kids....and I don't like or even know the guy, but I do know he IS the better parent from all that is shoved at us about these 2 and not just these 2 but all these rehab'd at-risk younger people....
oh and please don't think I don't have a heart - no flames - got my own family history of substance abuse that goes decades back...some even died....
But having kids is like G_d giving ya a second chance to GET IT RIGHT!! Some people just don't get it....
JMHO (just my HUMBLE opinion)
Anything Billy Mays, any "male enhancement" drug,....
Geico with the cavemen, any "are you behind in taxes" commercial.
My husband is drug tested on a regular basis
for his job, just took 1 yesterday. It can be at any time, when he is arriving or leaving work and being as he has a responsible job, I am totally all for it as he is.
It's nice, but food prices insane and food is really bad,
xx
My in-laws have a dog who has seizures...
This dog seems to being having grand mal seizures because it urinates on itself and they last a least a minute. The dog has had this several times but they haven't taken him to the vet because of the cost involved. My mother-in-law gives him an aspirin and puts "cold packs" on him when he is seizing. I'm not sure why but she is a little strange. I would take the dog to a vet. They can probably do test to see if she is indeed having seizures. Good luck!
The smoking might have to be done outside if the laws there say
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This goes along with sweet in-laws...
My son was born in September 1994. We found out 8 weeks later he had pyloric stenosis after changing formula, etc. I worked in Radiology as an MT at the time and had the GI study done there. The radiologist was so nice, but informed me that our son was severely dehydrated and would need urgent surgery.
The surgery took place the night before Thanksgiving. My in-laws brought my husband and I a plate of their meal with utensils and all. Thankfully, our son (first born) came through with flying colors and is in perfect health now.
My parents were supportive on the phone, but my Dad had just been diagnosed with cancer and was too weak to make it in to see us.
So, I guess it was the worst and the best Thanksgiving ever and one that I will surely never forget for a very long time. ![Leaf](http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/16/16_4_40.gif")
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I have the same problems with my in-laws
Last year we got them a gift certificate to the local grocery store that they always go so and we decided to do the same again this year. Everyone has to eat. They live in a small condo and have all the money in the world to buy what they want and they're at an age where they don't need anything.
just so you know, many states have laws
against any corporeal punishment now, especially for "kinship" care (relatives raising kin children). For example, in many states I cannot even give push ups or running laps as punishment, forget about spanking! And throwing cold water on a child would get the child taken away from me. There are laws you can't withhold food as punishment or send a child to be early. There are over 5 million children being raised by relatives and just under 600,000 in state foster care. Things ARE much different now.
I understand some of these laws but
not being able to send a child to be early. Who gets to decide what is "early"?
What about lesh laws?
If you have a pet running around in this town you will be fined up to $500 whether the dog did anything while running about or not.
I do hope the little girl gets past her fear of dogs someday. I have a 6-year-old that has that same fear but she has never gotten bit so I don't know why she has that fear. She has turned now many playdates because of those tiny, barking house dogs. One friend in particular wanted dd to come over and play so bad but dd refused because of the dog and I explained that to the mother. I suggested that the litlte girl is welcome to come play here, after consulting with dd first and she agreed. ( I wanted to make sure it really was the dog not the other girl). So they come over, with their little barking, jumping dog and turned it loose in our house and dd started screaming and crying and very rudely ran them both off. I felt bad because dd bluntly told them to leave but I did not get on to her too much about it because it did not make sense to me. I had just explained that dd was very scared of the dog so why did they bring it to my house and turn it loose in my living room.  The dog was not mean, just very very hyper.
MIL shares that same fear and does not know why. She quit visiting a friend because their hyper little dog kept jumping on her and the owners would not do anything to control it. I guess dd and MIL are 2 peas in a pod when it comes ot that.
Must be nice to know you have in-laws ...sm
who would help. My parents couldn't help. My father in law couldn't either BUT mother in law could but wouldn't I know because she is so tight. She would just say oh well loose all your sh**. She wouldn't come off her money.
we just had to ask our in-laws for $500 loan
they're like a bank to us ;)
we just had to ask our in-laws for $500 loan
they're like a bank to us ;)
we just had to ask our in-laws for $500 loan
they're like a bank to us ;)
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