It was probably 'Wal-Mart rage'.... which is sort of like - sm
Posted By: 'sky rage' on airplanes. on 2007-11-20
In Reply to: What is wrong with people?! - makes me sick
I won't go near a WalMart this time of year, or on weekends. Doesn't matter how good my frame of mind was when I went in, by the time I've had to spend any length of time in there with all the rude shoppers, clueless employees who can't answer any questions, (that's IF they speak English at all), it starts to wear thin. The toy department has to be avoided at all costs - filled with a large percentage of our state's illegal immigrants and their out-of-control, shrieking, runny-nosed children. Ackkkk!!! And finally, what comes close to sending me over the edge every time, is the checkout line. Doesn't matter how 'short' the one you get into is... it will be the line where you've got either a trainee cashier or a malfunctioning cash register, or BOTH. The infants in front and back of you will start screaming in stereo and dangerously high on the decibel level. The kid behind you starts banging your knees with the shopping cart, or else someone elbows their way ahead of you and everyone else without asking because they have 'just one item'. But of course, the reality of it is that they have 7 or 8 items, but by then it's too late.
One time I stood there and watched a small boy (but old enough to know better!) carefully taking packages of Mentos candy out out of the rack, opening them and taking out ONE candy to eat, then putting them back in the rack and grabbing another one. Eventually he'd eaten more than a package's worth of Mentos. The mom could see him and never made a move to stop him. Apalling.
I love the bargains at Wal-Mart, and always find cute clothes there, but will only go during normal working hours during the day.
Although an injury-producing fight in the checkout line isn't good, like another poster said, it's fortunate no one was shot or stabbed (depending on the demographic, of course). If I look at my fellow shoppers' faces in line, it's easy to see that like me, they're at the end of their rope, and that rope is pretty frayed. So I can easily imagine such a fray happening, and am surprised it doesn't actually happen more often and with more violent results.
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Not road rage, but cell phone rage
Is anyone out there annoyed as much as I am with the dictators using these cell phones right where they are dictating and going off right in your ears???? Some are put so close as to interfere with the dictation equipment and thus the screech comes on. Unbearable....
Wal-Mart does offer health insurance to their workers. Wal-Mart pays part and the employee SM
pays part of the premium. Just like other companies do.
WalMart Rage
I have a thought! We could sell tickets to the shopping "encounters" and make a bundle! That way, we could all afford to shop wherever we want for whatever we want when this is all over.
Actually, I don't really think this is restricted to just Christmas season - I have had some nuts "accost" me at other stores too, especially Costco, during all the seasons. The most annoying and aggresive was an old man (looked in his late 70s) who wanted my space in line and kept "ramming" my basket trying to cut into line. He had already tried it on two other people and "lost" out in another line - I had been watching him. My husband told me to let him go in front of us and suddenly a light came on in my head and I lost it. I turned around and asked him if he was crazy or just rude. Then, a man behind me told me to "comeon, just let him go" and then I REALLY lost it. I told the crazy guy to keep it up and I would call the police on him for battery. He just looked at me and looked at me. I don't know about you guys, but sometimes enough is enough. I am old now and tired and so sick of people like him. Why should I "keep the peace" at my own expense when that is exactly what most of the people like him expect? Besides, it was "empowering" to tell him to bug off. I don't look for trouble, but I don't have to be a doormat either and I don't intend to. Maybe one of those people that were taken away to the hospital were like me. Hope that doesn't happen to me too, but hey you never know. From now on I do not ever intend to be intimidated by rude mean people again. Even if they punch me! I will fight back. Guess it wouldn't hurt to make sure that I have something substantial in my basket to use just in case he is bigger than me?
Why didn't someone call security before the problem got out of control?
Where we live sometimes there is WalMart rage out in the parking lot too over spaces! Yet another reason to never go there! I guess we should shop where they have the most security to keep you safe from the other customers.
highway rage sm
I guess a guy got cut off further back on the highway by another, so the guy takes out a baseball bat, and repeatedly bangs the other guy's passenger window with the bat. No cops around, and no cell phone available; scared me to death. Don't know who had control of the baseball bat guy's wheel, but it was unbelievable. Just changed lanes quickly and kept on going. Too nuts to deal with, or is that two nuts?
road rage sm
I can agree NCMT, same thing happened to us on New Years Eve one time, screamed my head off, not a cop around and went through two states. I will never forget it. I don't speak of it often as I didn't think anyone would believe me! No cell phones then, that's why they are useful, although I am not sure how fast they would come, but it sure makes you feel better. Thanks for sharing.
You are still full of rage.
Shut up, you say? Tell it to yourself and then, see professional help. A pastor would be a good place to start. Many of them dedicate their ministries beyond the pulpit to domestic violence and abuse. For those who do not feel at home in a church, they have many resources to sliding scale social services, often some of which are free of charge.
its acceptable, unlike drunken stupor, roid rage, amphetamine rush, which are
nm
Wal-Mart - $12 plus $2 tip - sm
I paid $20 plus $4 tip for a couple of years and was never completely satisfied but scared to switch hairdressers. I was in Wal-Mart one day and got a look at myself in the mirror and marched straight to the beauty shop in the store and got a cut. Been going there ever since and am completely satisfied...with cut, price, and convenience. No appointment necessary. I just go whenever I start looking straggly.
Wal-Mart
I was told Merry Christmas at Wal-Mart by the check-out lady last night. . but it is a small town in Ky.. so it might be different in a bigger town.
I have one from Wal-Mart....sm
I got a Bissell with attachments. I love it. I used it just tonight for the first time. You should have seen the dirty water!! I think for the price it is great. It has a switch where you can choose a heavy duty cleaning or a normal cleaning or just a water rinse. I love it so far!!
Hah ! Wal Mart
I swear, at my Wal Mart Saturday nights are a zoo, every weirdo in the county is there. Two weeks ago I was online with my 11 year old daughter for over 45 minutes. There was a woman in front of me with a teenage, a girl who looked about 13, and another who looked about 10. The mother was having a phone conversation on her cell phone, and every other word out of her mouth was the F word. I finally told my daughter to go look at the books so she wouldn't hear this woman anymore. I should have said something to this woman, but she looked like she could beat the heck out of me, so I didn't.
Wal-Mart nm
:)
actually I like K mart because they still have Lay A way
you have to get a credit card instead
OK. I have to stick up for Wal Mart and here is why: sm
Wal Mart is NO different than any other department store or retail store on the market today. Why do people think that you CAN raise a family while working as a cashier at Wal Mart? Or a greeter? You can't. Just as you couldn't if you were a cashier at your local grocers. These people are there to ring up our products, take our money, etc, just like any other cashier's job. You can't raise a family on a salary like that ANYWHERE so why is everyone blaming Wal Mart for low wages? The last I looked our local grocer was hiring for 7.00 an hour and that is 1.50 less than what our local Wal Mart pays.
Second. Health insurance. A company that is privately owned DOES NOT have to offer insurance for it's employees. Hence, again, go look for a company that does offer it if you need it. Don't blame Wal Mart. The employee has choices. They can work somewhere else. It is expensive!! If they offered its employees ALL of these benefits people keep crying about then guess what? They wouldn't be Wal-Mart anymore. They would be called Wal-Mall because that's what would happen to their prices. They would go WAY up! And then I wouldn't be able to get a loaf of bread for 87 cents. You get the picture. Wal-Mart does a lot of families very GOOD. They dont' have unions because unions cost a TON of money. Once again, they would have to raise prices enormously if they were to form a union. I don't want that. I don't need a Wal-Mall, I need a Wal-Mart.
So, to drive my point in further, let me sum it all up for you: 1. You aren't supposed to earn a living working at Wal-Mart. If you have to raise a family, get an education or a better paying job and don't blame Wal Mart for paying wages that your local grocer or department store pays just because you think "they can afford it." 2. If Wal Mart starts offering insurance to all employees, form unions, etc., then Wal-Mart would be just like our competitor here in town, Publix, who drive up prices 40 to 50% so that they CAN pay their employees health insurance, etc., which is fine - that is their business. But I am smart. And given the choice of paying 2.50 for a loaf of bread or 87 cents, I think the latter is a much better choice for me and my family.
If your convictions stop you, then don't shop there. But Wal Mart is just too good a thing to pass up for millions of families.
I will say this in contrast, though. I don't always go to Wal Mart because I hate crowds. I do occasionally shop at our local Publix as I find them friendlier and more convenient. But, I always spend a lot of money and don't get nearly as much for my money except maybe peace of mind.
I HATE Wal-Mart!!!
So, last weekend, 10/27, I ordered a large Nintendo Wii bundle (this includes a bunch of games and accessories) from Wal-Mart's website for my daughter for Christmas. On 10/30, I received an email stating that the Wii console was "not available" and they were canceling this part of my order. I tried to cancel the rest of my order, but WM does not allow you to cancel online orders once you place them. Obviously, I'm extremely mad as I now have a bunch of games and accessories for the Wii but no way to play/use them!! I really feel like I was tricked into buying this very expensive bundle when there's no guarantee that I will be able to get the Wii console before Christmas. I actually filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau and sent a letter to Wal-Mart's corporate office. I received a response back from their customer service dept stating that they would call me to "resolve this issue" within one business day, but that was 2 days ago and nothing as of yet. The really crappy part on their behalf is that they are STILL selling this Wii bundle on their website and it states it's IN STOCK when they know very well that it's not!! So, I'm not the only one that is going to be tricked into paying hundreds of dollars for games and accessories and not getting the Wii console!
I really don't know if there is someone else that I can complain to - like the Attorney General or what??? I really feel like this is very unethical of them to do this. I know I can take all the games and accessories to the store to get a refund for that, but I'm still out the shipping charges which isn't right.
Please all you WM haters don't flame me for shopping there in the first place. I've never had a problem with them before and I'm not sure why they are treating me like this now. I really just wanted to get ideas or suggestions from anyone that knows whether this is illegal or just unethical and if there's anything I could do about it, besides complain on here and hope I keep someone else from shopping at this horrid place :)
Wal-Mart & WiFi sm
I live near a new Super one, thought it would be an added incentive since all the other stores in my area have closed and I have to go a distance to get anything I need. The store is dirty, employees are rude, most do NOT speak English, just point when you ask a question and the place smells like BO all the time. Nobody washes up anymore either, never mind dress up and be courteous! Anyway, to answer your question, they are setting up a WI-Fi area near where the Christmas trees have been since Sept., and I am sure they will be getting in shipments any day. If you live within 50 miles of one, it may be worth the trip to keep calling and see if you can pick one up right from the store. I did fall for their After Thanksgiving sales pitch once, got up at 4:00 AM only to find they had only a few per store and were all out. I am used to old-fashioned service and commitment, I don't go for this bait and switch, but hey, it's WAL-MART! You get what you pay for. So sorry, have had the same experience at the holidays. Complaining is like spitting in the ocean, won't do you much good and may come back to spray you. Try to relax and enjoy the holidays, I know we hate to disappoint our kids. Once I had to resort to cutting out a picture of what they wanted and they had to wait until after Christmas, they were just as happy though as they knew it was coming sooner or later. TTFN
Wal-mart Cake
Keep in mind this actually really did happen!!!! This is someone who was moving from a claims office. Okay so this is how I imagine this conversation went: Walmart Employee: "Hello 'dis Walmart, how can I help you?" Customer: " I would like to order a cake for a going away party this week." Walmart Employee: "What you want on the cake?" Customer: "Best Wishes Suzanne" and underneath that "We will miss you". Walmart Employee: "Dat all? Okay, Bye."
Seems llike I got something like that at Wal-Mart
NM
Wish I DID have a phobia of Wal-Mart
I'd have a little more money..LOL. .
Why do stores, like Wal-Mart,
always redesign their layout just when I finally learn where things are?
Why are the seats of the carts at Wal-Mart so little? My 3-year-old barely fits in.
Why is it when I go to buy something on sale or "as advertised", the store never has it in stock?
Wal-Mart employee
I read about that as well - pitifully sad. Shows the state of manners and common decency in this country. If they ever find out who it was who incited this, they should get the book thrown at them! That is one of the reasons why I shop online the majority of the time...
I always hear: Get a job at Wal-Mart..sm
Not everybody lives in the vicinity of a Wal-Mart or Wendy's, duh?
I too have a Wal-Mart brace
but I paid 14.97 for mine. It is mostly gray and very firm which is good. It sucks to work in and it makes it hurt more when I first wear it. I wear mine at night, which a lot of people say not too, but I think that at night I don't really have control of it and I could possibly hurt it worse. So I slather on some ActivOn, put on the brace, and then sleep and then I wear it until I work and that usually does the trick. Good luck!!! This job takes a toll on the wrists... and the BUTT!!!
Sort of. sm
I had root canals on my front teeth and could never get the money to have them capped. On a Sat night before I was to start a new job the following Monday, I bit into a BLT and a front tooth shattered into pieces. A dentist saw me on Sunday emergently and was able to built it back up - I certainly was not going to start a new job missing a front tooth. Good luck.
can anyone help me sort?
I have microsoft word, works, notepad and word pad. i'm wanting to sort a list in alphabetical order. in word, i find sort under tables, but it doesn't sort....?? any other way to do it, or suggestions on why its not sorting the list?
many thanks.
Sort of the same here.
Personally I would rather someone take back the gift than to waste my money by hanging onto something that they don't like or doesn't fit. It is the thought that counts and doesn't bother me.
I am a thrifty person, everyone knows this. My MIL buys me things that I consider frivolous and if I can return them and get something similar for substantially less $ and then use the extra money for something else we need or donate it or take the in-laws to dinner, I will. I know she doesn't like it because she will comment on the items such as "didn't that coffee pot have a timer, clock, and all the gadgets?" Yes, it did but we wouldn't use those features and it was an extra $50. Or a hot chocolate maker that just took up cabinet space and was used once, the day after christmas. I returned it for $45 and bought really nice meat thermometer, which I tell everyone my MIL bought for xmas.
The nice thing is she has always, and for everyone, included the receipts for most items. I would never, ever ask her for the receipt. I have returned things that were purchased with her credit card and had them credit her back. Whether she notices or not, I don't know. I don't say anything because I don't want her to feel odd about it but I just think it's the right thing to do and it's not about the money.
Besides, I tell them every year not to get me anything - I grew up with little at the holiday and family/friends were emphasized. Not the case at the in-laws. They shower everyone with gifts and then everyone departs for home.
Wal-Mart WILL celebrate Christmas...
Look it up on CNN.com. Made the decision today. MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ONE AND ALL!!!
Have both worked at and shopped at Wal-Mart
My experience both as a part-time employee working odd hours for extra money while the kids were small to shopping there to stretch the overall family budget has been overall positive. I dunno what the big whoop is.
Wal-Mart to the rescue...what we found...sm
ring just like she wants for $124.99. The exact same quality and design of ring through the school contact? $335. Someone's getting rich off of students if allowed! The best part is she'll have the ring within 2 weeks from Wal-Mart versus 3 months from the school vendor.
yep, automotive stores and I think Wal-Mart
any store that has an automotive department, could be K-Mart, Auto-Zone, anywhere mechanics get their stuff from.......maybe even the grocery store in the automotive aisle...where you can pick up oil.....
polaroid-DVR-wal-mart-ebay
;)
Correction to above.K-Mart. Not Walmart.
Wouldn't step into a Walmart. Can't even afford that store these days LOL.
I didn't realize K Mart still had Lay away!
I always loved Lay Away. You could shop and know you got what you needed and save up for it. Yes, the year Walmart did away with Lay away everybody around these parts were really upset. Most people who do lay away do so so they can use cash and not credit. Uggg. Credit. Wish I never heard of a credit card. But that's another story for another day. LOL.
One of many reasons I don't shop at Wal-Mart
Against the Wal A class-action lawsuit in Dakota County could strike a costly blow to the world’s largest private employer by MARGARET NELSON BRINKHAUS
In July 2001, Nancy Braun was watching television with a friend when a commercial caught her attention. The ad was soliciting litigants for a potential lawsuit against Wal-Mart, the Arkansas-based retailing giant, for allegedly cheating employees out of wages they were rightfully owed.
A single mother of two—and grandmother of four—Braun had started working for Wal-Mart in 1997. At the time, she lived in Slidell, Louisiana, where she had previously worked for a grocery store. She considered Wal-Mart a step-up. “I liked shopping there,” she says. “I thought I’d like working there too.”
And she did enjoy it, at least for a while. She liked the people, the work, the sense of solidarity among employees. But in 2000, homesick for her family, she moved back to Minnesota and transferred to the Wal-Mart in Apple Valley, where she was assigned to run the Radio Grill, the outlet’s now-defunct in-store restaurant. There, Braun quickly became disenchanted with the company, especially after a supervisor repeatedly prohibited her from taking breaks—even after she had surgery that required frequent trips to the bathroom. She soon quit.
Braun’s friend encouraged her to call the number mentioned in the advertisement to see if she qualified for the suit, but Braun was hesitant. She didn’t relish the prospect of reliving that period in her life. Yet she remembered how her mother, a longtime switchboard operator at Carleton College, had always encouraged her to speak up, to do the right thing when confronted with an injustice, big or small. “You can’t allow yourself to be treated like an animal,” she says. “I’m sure Mr. Walton would agree with me on that.”
One morning this past October, six years after she first saw that television ad, Braun sat inside a Dakota County courtroom in Hastings, her striped shirt and beige pants—bought from Wal-Mart—in marked contrast to dark suits, leather briefcases, BlackBerrys, and laptops sported by the army of attorneys in the room. “I’m a Plain Jane kind of gal, nothing fancy,” she said. “But I know what’s right. What Wal-Mart did to me wasn’t right.”
That sense of determination is one of the reasons why Braun found herself in Hastings, taking on the country’s largest corporation. She’s one of four lead plaintiffs in a massive, class-action lawsuit filed against Wal-Mart, a case that could affect 56,000 people who worked at Wal-Mart in Minnesota between 1998 and 2004. The suit alleges that over that period, the discount retailer systematically avoided paying wages earned by employees for overtime work and missed or shortened meal and break periods. And though the case is not the first of its kind—workers have won victories in similar cases in California and Pennsylvania—it may end up being one of the most significant. If Judge Robert King Jr. rules against Wal-Mart in this phase of the trial, the company would likely have to pay up to $500 for each employee, which could mean a payout in the tens of millions. More significantly, a ruling against Wal-Mart in this first part of the trial would also mean that the case would move to a jury to assess whether punitive damages are in order. If that happens, Wal-Mart could be on the hook for not only millions, but billions.
Braun’s troubles began after she returned to Minnesota. At the Apple Valley Wal-Mart, she worked in several different departments before running the Radio Grill. At first, she enjoyed the work. “I treated that place like my own kitchen,” she says. “I did it all willingly. I’m not afraid of work…never have been.” Not long after she started in Apple Valley, Braun had learned she needed to have gallbladder surgery. After the procedure, Braun suffered some relatively common side effects that required her to take frequent bathroom breaks. Braun’s supervisors initially said they would accommodate her needs, but that’s not what happened. “I’d get in a pinch, be there all alone, and soil myself, ruin my clothes,” Braun recalled. “I’d feel so degraded. Sometimes I wouldn’t have clothes with me, and the manager would say ‘We have clothes here for sale. Get your purse and go buy yourself some.’ They didn’t care.”
Putting up with an insufferable boss is, of course, an unavoidable part of a job for many people. Yet Braun’s treatment, argue the plaintiffs’ attorneys, wasn’t unique among Wal-Mart employees. Another lead plaintiff, Debbie Simonson, 59, started working as a cashier at the Wal-Mart in Brooklyn Park in April 2000. As a single mother of two children, she needed the money. And, like Braun, Simonson was often told by her supervisor not to take bathroom breaks. “He’d say ‘Skip the bathroom and get your butt out here,’ and I’d do it,” she explained in court. “It was an order. Your boss tells you to do something, you do it.” She quit after 13 months.
According to Justin Perl, the plaintiffs’ lead attorney, the denial of breaks was standard operating procedure at Wal-Mart. As part of the case, he and his colleagues combed through Wal-Mart’s own records to find workplace violations. They identified millions of missed bathroom and rest breaks, as well as millions of shortened rest breaks, along with thousands of missed meal breaks. “It’s the Wal-Mart way,” says Perl. “They nickel-and-dime the lowest- paid workers so they can improve their own bottom line.”
Wal-Mart sees it differently. A spokesman, John Simley, says the company doesn’t comment on pending litigation, but in other cases the company has denied it encourages employees to miss breaks or work off the clock. Wal-Mart, company officials maintain, tries to ensure compliance with company policies and state laws, but has no control over individual choices workers make.
Yet those individual choices are often informed by pressure from the company, argues Perl. According to testimony in other wage cases, Wal-Mart compensates its managers largely via bonuses that are tied to profits—and the easiest way to increase profits is by cutting expenses. “They do it by erasing everyone else’s salary,” says Perl. “It’s not a hard job. They cut staffing. They shave breaks. They make their profit goals. It’s the only basis for how they compensate their managers.”
Pamela Reinert, 54, saw for herself how that pressure was brought to bear. A petite, soft-spoken mother of seven from Maplewood who has a PhD in psychology, she joined Sam’s Club—a Wal-Mart subsidiary—in 1997, after she was laid off from another job. Like Braun and Simonson, Reinert liked the work, and was good at it. She made it into the management-training program shortly after joining the company. As a manager, she would sometimes try to intercede on behalf of workers who weren’t getting their breaks. Eventually, though, she was told to stop making trouble. She eventually quit after a supervisor threatened to write her up for insubordination—for trying to take her complaints up the chain of command.
A ruling on the case is expected sometime this month. But no matter how it turns out, Nancy Braun says she will always miss Wal-Mart. “I wish I could have stayed working there,” she says. She enjoyed the other employees, the customers, and the idea “that there was always something to do, always a way to keep busy. I worked my way up—that was a big deal for me. When I quit, I felt defeated.”
Now living in Stevens Point, Wisconsin, and selling insurance at a cell phone company, she tries to attend the trial whenever possible. When she’s in Hastings, she occasionally makes a stop across the street from the courthouse to do some shopping—at Wal-Mart.
Margaret Nelson Brinkhaus is a Minnesota-based writer.
One of many reasons I don't shop at Wal-Mart
Against the Wal A class-action lawsuit in Dakota County could strike a costly blow to the world’s largest private employer by MARGARET NELSON BRINKHAUS
In July 2001, Nancy Braun was watching television with a friend when a commercial caught her attention. The ad was soliciting litigants for a potential lawsuit against Wal-Mart, the Arkansas-based retailing giant, for allegedly cheating employees out of wages they were rightfully owed.
A single mother of two—and grandmother of four—Braun had started working for Wal-Mart in 1997. At the time, she lived in Slidell, Louisiana, where she had previously worked for a grocery store. She considered Wal-Mart a step-up. “I liked shopping there,” she says. “I thought I’d like working there too.”
And she did enjoy it, at least for a while. She liked the people, the work, the sense of solidarity among employees. But in 2000, homesick for her family, she moved back to Minnesota and transferred to the Wal-Mart in Apple Valley, where she was assigned to run the Radio Grill, the outlet’s now-defunct in-store restaurant. There, Braun quickly became disenchanted with the company, especially after a supervisor repeatedly prohibited her from taking breaks—even after she had surgery that required frequent trips to the bathroom. She soon quit.
Braun’s friend encouraged her to call the number mentioned in the advertisement to see if she qualified for the suit, but Braun was hesitant. She didn’t relish the prospect of reliving that period in her life. Yet she remembered how her mother, a longtime switchboard operator at Carleton College, had always encouraged her to speak up, to do the right thing when confronted with an injustice, big or small. “You can’t allow yourself to be treated like an animal,” she says. “I’m sure Mr. Walton would agree with me on that.”
One morning this past October, six years after she first saw that television ad, Braun sat inside a Dakota County courtroom in Hastings, her striped shirt and beige pants—bought from Wal-Mart—in marked contrast to dark suits, leather briefcases, BlackBerrys, and laptops sported by the army of attorneys in the room. “I’m a Plain Jane kind of gal, nothing fancy,” she said. “But I know what’s right. What Wal-Mart did to me wasn’t right.”
That sense of determination is one of the reasons why Braun found herself in Hastings, taking on the country’s largest corporation. She’s one of four lead plaintiffs in a massive, class-action lawsuit filed against Wal-Mart, a case that could affect 56,000 people who worked at Wal-Mart in Minnesota between 1998 and 2004. The suit alleges that over that period, the discount retailer systematically avoided paying wages earned by employees for overtime work and missed or shortened meal and break periods. And though the case is not the first of its kind—workers have won victories in similar cases in California and Pennsylvania—it may end up being one of the most significant. If Judge Robert King Jr. rules against Wal-Mart in this phase of the trial, the company would likely have to pay up to $500 for each employee, which could mean a payout in the tens of millions. More significantly, a ruling against Wal-Mart in this first part of the trial would also mean that the case would move to a jury to assess whether punitive damages are in order. If that happens, Wal-Mart could be on the hook for not only millions, but billions.
Braun’s troubles began after she returned to Minnesota. At the Apple Valley Wal-Mart, she worked in several different departments before running the Radio Grill. At first, she enjoyed the work. “I treated that place like my own kitchen,” she says. “I did it all willingly. I’m not afraid of work…never have been.” Not long after she started in Apple Valley, Braun had learned she needed to have gallbladder surgery. After the procedure, Braun suffered some relatively common side effects that required her to take frequent bathroom breaks. Braun’s supervisors initially said they would accommodate her needs, but that’s not what happened. “I’d get in a pinch, be there all alone, and soil myself, ruin my clothes,” Braun recalled. “I’d feel so degraded. Sometimes I wouldn’t have clothes with me, and the manager would say ‘We have clothes here for sale. Get your purse and go buy yourself some.’ They didn’t care.”
Putting up with an insufferable boss is, of course, an unavoidable part of a job for many people. Yet Braun’s treatment, argue the plaintiffs’ attorneys, wasn’t unique among Wal-Mart employees. Another lead plaintiff, Debbie Simonson, 59, started working as a cashier at the Wal-Mart in Brooklyn Park in April 2000. As a single mother of two children, she needed the money. And, like Braun, Simonson was often told by her supervisor not to take bathroom breaks. “He’d say ‘Skip the bathroom and get your butt out here,’ and I’d do it,” she explained in court. “It was an order. Your boss tells you to do something, you do it.” She quit after 13 months.
According to Justin Perl, the plaintiffs’ lead attorney, the denial of breaks was standard operating procedure at Wal-Mart. As part of the case, he and his colleagues combed through Wal-Mart’s own records to find workplace violations. They identified millions of missed bathroom and rest breaks, as well as millions of shortened rest breaks, along with thousands of missed meal breaks. “It’s the Wal-Mart way,” says Perl. “They nickel-and-dime the lowest- paid workers so they can improve their own bottom line.”
Wal-Mart sees it differently. A spokesman, John Simley, says the company doesn’t comment on pending litigation, but in other cases the company has denied it encourages employees to miss breaks or work off the clock. Wal-Mart, company officials maintain, tries to ensure compliance with company policies and state laws, but has no control over individual choices workers make.
Yet those individual choices are often informed by pressure from the company, argues Perl. According to testimony in other wage cases, Wal-Mart compensates its managers largely via bonuses that are tied to profits—and the easiest way to increase profits is by cutting expenses. “They do it by erasing everyone else’s salary,” says Perl. “It’s not a hard job. They cut staffing. They shave breaks. They make their profit goals. It’s the only basis for how they compensate their managers.”
Pamela Reinert, 54, saw for herself how that pressure was brought to bear. A petite, soft-spoken mother of seven from Maplewood who has a PhD in psychology, she joined Sam’s Club—a Wal-Mart subsidiary—in 1997, after she was laid off from another job. Like Braun and Simonson, Reinert liked the work, and was good at it. She made it into the management-training program shortly after joining the company. As a manager, she would sometimes try to intercede on behalf of workers who weren’t getting their breaks. Eventually, though, she was told to stop making trouble. She eventually quit after a supervisor threatened to write her up for insubordination—for trying to take her complaints up the chain of command.
A ruling on the case is expected sometime this month. But no matter how it turns out, Nancy Braun says she will always miss Wal-Mart. “I wish I could have stayed working there,” she says. She enjoyed the other employees, the customers, and the idea “that there was always something to do, always a way to keep busy. I worked my way up—that was a big deal for me. When I quit, I felt defeated.”
Now living in Stevens Point, Wisconsin, and selling insurance at a cell phone company, she tries to attend the trial whenever possible. When she’s in Hastings, she occasionally makes a stop across the street from the courthouse to do some shopping—at Wal-Mart.
Margaret Nelson Brinkhaus is a Minnesota-based writer.
I have an HP, but and I sort of have to press
out, but I've got it down now. I think I know what you are talking about, but it just sort of pops out, once you press down on it. Then you have to set the new one in there and click it in by pushing it towards the back. I hope this makes sense. Also, I try to say nice things to my printer, so it will act right. This always worked for faulty copiers and fax machines when I worked on-site. People think I'm weird, can you tell?
Glad (sort of) to know we are not alone
I forgot that my vet also did the skin scrapings and came up negative.
I hope someone will offer some help. I feel so bad for her and when it gets to the point that we are waking up at night...well, I just feel so bad for her.
I will let you know if we arrive at a solution.
I sort of know where you are coming from
with the prices of houses by me. Most people probably don't realize that 400,000 in some areas does not get you much and you probably can't find a 3 bedroom decent house for under 350,000. I think people are getting the wrong impression and thinking you want to live way beyond your means when in reality you just want a decent place to live. As I said, I'm in the same boat and it stinks. Just be careful; sounds like way too much debt to be comfortable with your current situation. Have you thought about moving somewhere cheaper? I am sure your wife can find a job as a nurse anywhere, maybe making even more money; also if she is an RN they can work just weekends and make a full time income. For you, you can always work at home doing MT full time and part time with 2 companies putting in 50 or so hrs a week for now. You'd save on any kind of childcare that way at least while the baby is an infant. But then you may have to put off school. Unfortunately this is what happens. We can't have it all as much as we'd all like to. Sounds like at least you do have a few options, though, the way I see it; so good luck whatever you choose to do.
There must be some sort of natural
repellent on the market that you can spray on the furniture so that when he jumps up there and sniffs around, whatever he does, he won't like it and will get down. I have heard of something similar with cayenne pepper or something in it that keeps them away...Will see if I can find what I am thinking and post it if I can.
I'm the odd one out, but I sort of agree
I do have a child in advanced math. He's in 8th grade taking Algebra and he'll be 14 at the end of the month.
My thing is if your daughter tested well enough to get into this Physics class, then she must be one smart cookie! However, if you encourage her to drop out when in fact she can probably do the work and just has to work a little harder, I think you all will regret it.
A GPA is wonderful to have at high levels; we all know that, but if that high GPA is being earned because the child is in "easy classes", then it doesn't mean much at that point.
I say keep her in the class. She'll get through it, and she may not get a 98%, but she may find it a nice challenge, if she's as smart as you say she is, which I believe she is to be accepted into a Physics class in 9th grade. Let's not kid here!
Good luck to you! I think she'll do great and she just has a little nervousness as maybe it's not coming so easy right now, but it will come! I hope this all makes sense!
What sort of response did you get?
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Maybe he could be sort of a general fix-it guy
Someone in my area actually has an ad in the paper that says 'Rent-a-Husband'. For household things like building shelves or cabinets, lighting a pilot light, trapping and removing a mouse in the bathroom, or a bat in the garage, things like that. Petsitting and dog-walking are good options for a rent-a-husband, too! Or for busy people, someone to take their car to the shop for a tuneup and oil change, so they don't have to. Back in the 1970's, during the gas 'shortage', when lines for gas were hours long, people made money by taking people's cars to the gas station and filling up for them.
Maybe he could build those cute wooden children's toys you see at the fancier toy stores. And either sell them or give them to organizations that give toys to needy children. If he's 'artsy-craftsy', maybe he can come up with really cute dog-collars & matching leashes, or cute wooden pet-beds that look like miniatures of the real thing. If he likes to write, and is smart, maybe he could start an advice column for soon-to-be-seniors. (Nowadays 61 isn't really a 'senior' - I think it's closer to 75-80!) Or, if he likes kids, maybe a 'rent-a-grandpa'! Or else maybe a small mail-order business, like on eBay.
Well, that's all for my ideas, I need to get to work, myself!
Hope he finds the PERFECT idea!
sort of still keep in contact, but
They didn't go to HS with me. One I've known since probably 1978 when I was 8 and she was 6 and we were visiting here on vacation, then my family moved here and she and I have been BF since 1985...only keep in touch by email and occasional phone calls.
My other one I've known since 1995 and we're in touch by email too.
Our lives are just too complicated and too far apart by distance to really see eachother, but we can catch up instantly with eachother even if it has been a while
To take any sort of antidepressants is
the worst advice one can give. Lexapro and all others are associated with risks of suicide.
Wal-Mart corporate policy states....sm
that if you ask the person at the kiosk overseeing the self-check out lines to check you out they have to. Wal-Mart has gotten a bad reputation for not hiring people and then claiming their lack of check out lines being manned by humans is due to not having enough staff. Bull crap - if you pay well you can get good employees. I NEVER check myself out and provide free labor. I rarely go there but when I do, if there's more than 4 people in line ahead of me then I go to the self-check out lines and have the person overseeing them check them out. A couple of times they gave me flack about it and I requested the store manager be called... and then the store manager made them ring me up because the manager knew it was corporate policy.
My husband has asked the manager why they even have 20 checkout lines when he's never seen more than 2 cashiers working at any time of the day. Good question I say!
Terro works. Get it at Lowes or Wal-Mart. nm
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$300 for SHEETS? Try Wal-Mart, Target, or Ross!
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Two of my daughters have them on their lists. Found them at K-Mart for 29.99 nm
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Prell - I buy it at Wal-Mart in Athens, Alabama.
I have also found it at Dollar General.
Are they Wal-Mart brand animal crackers?..sm
Are they different than regular ones? I love snacking on chips lately. I also cannot stop eating those Life Savers suckers. They are so good. I really need some ideas on some low-fat snacks that are good.
Figure it has to be drugs of some sort.....
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