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It is a shame, that the truth is misconstrued as

Posted By: criticism. on 2009-06-16
In Reply to: Wait a minute, "What is wrong?". sm - Ella (retired)

Unless she likes to be homeless.  Or unless one of you want her to move in with YOU. 


Would you sit month after month when you are getting no work?  Then come on here and say, oh well, I wonder why I have no money to pay bills and now I wonder why I am getting evicted?


What is wrong with HARD WORK and FINDING A JOB when there is no money coming in?  


And evictions don't happen easily.  You can't just come up and evict someone. It takes a bit more than that.  There is sooooo much more to this story for sure. 


But you go on with your group hug if you think it will help her. I don't think it will.  I think she needs to look at her life situation clearly and see what went wrong and get moving. 


If she needs help she needs to seek it beyond this forum. 




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you didnt write that conversation. shame shame
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No, you misconstrued what I said, I said
not WILL but what makes you think she will listen. The word was think, not will. Different meanings and you wrote your son had sex at 17 and told you at 18. Well, I guess it could have been on his birthday eve. Guess I got that wrong.
We seek for the truth, our own personal truth. SM
Not everyone is religious. ;)
in every joke is a little truth and the truth in
this 'joke'(?) is very sad.
Next time try a little harder.
Just shame on you is all I can say
you are upholding the kids whose behavior is out of hand? I do not know why a teacher would want to teach with what they have to work with now days and making excuses for children who intentionally do this is beyond me. Why in the world would anyone take up for such offensive, rude, crude actions from the children. If you have a medical disorder, which I would bet 99% do not have, then different. The ones you take up for are the same ones that cause the most problems for the parents. Boys will be boys? My daughter tried the belching in her younger days so it is not just boys and I, for one, will not put up with an action like this whether it is my child or not. Shameful.
It is a shame that
that known aggressive Pitbulls continue to be bred and thus aggressive ones get into the hands of irresponsible people. You made my point. Even with responsible people accidents happen, their dogs do sometimes get out. If you know your Pitbull is aggressive, having the potential to kill, in my opinion it is irresponsible to keep such a dog as accidents do happen and you cannot possibly guarantee your dog will never be in a position to cause harm or death to someone's pet or child. I know it is a hard decision to make when someone loves their dog, but we did it for the sake of others safety. It is very hard to justify how loving and gentle your dog is with you and your family after the fact. Until people become responsible and weed out ALL aggressive Pitbulls from breeding programs, which will never happen because of attitudes that "my dog will never get out and do anything bad," I agree with the banning of Pitbulls that some cities have instituted.
I think it's a shame s/m
to deprive children of the traditional Santa Claus.   Heck, I still believe in Santa Claus myself.  It is a spirit that lives within the hearts of old and young.  Kids eventually figure out for themselves that Santa is a fantasy.  We took our kids to our church's Christmas Even candlelight service and Santa came while we were at church.  We opened gifts when we came home.  There was no lying involved and their personalities were not warped either.
Well it is a shame, but it sounds like

We've been there and done that once already with "drunken neighbors" who played music really loud when my children were young!  They were nice enough I guess, but just partied all of the time and it got to the point where I couldn't take my kids outside.  This was our old house.  Now we are much happier, but we are not in the country. 


Good luck in selling and I think it sounds like you are making the right decision!  Landlords are such a joke! 


That's more than a shame, if it's not true.
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I think it's a shame when adults
cannot put their differences aside for the 2 major holidays a year.
I agree with you 100% - what a shame
that when it comes to money, families only think of how much they will get. I could care less if I get money or not as it is none of my business and would rather have my mom than her money.

Again, great advice!
It is such a shame that her fame has caused
You hear so often of stars with private gardeners, make-up artists, etc.  Why not a private psychologist/psychiatrist/interventionist.  Such a cute girl and so much more life to live.  It sure does make you wonder if pushing your children into these types of fields is really the right thing to do.  I guess every job has its ups and downs, but I still wouldn't want to see my child have such turmoil when they were seen as "starlets" for so long.  I also think the media makes a big deal out of everything.  I don't think her actions are good choices, but I also think every little move the poor young mother makes is under scrutinization by the public.  You don't often hear about every day people dropping their kids and getting that much publicity.  Just like when Michael Jackson dangled his child over the balcony for example.  I have been around people that throw their children in the air and catch them.  This scares me, but I never see those same people on CNN that night throwing their child in the air and being scrutinized for that action.  JMO. 
Oh Eunice. That's really a shame. But I must say as a frequent

sufferer of insomnia myself, also mostly due to pain issues, I would be so eleated to get 5 to 6 hours of continuous sleep.  I can't recall the last time that occurred.  Why not follow your physician's recommendation regarding increasing the Pamelor, and if about 1 month you are still displeased with your sleep pattern, request a trial of another medication.  There are plenty of them out there.  Like I mentioned, trazodone is often prescribed as the initial line of therapy, most likely because it is non-addicting. If your PCP is prescribing the sleep aid, I would mention the problem also to your physician who is treating your fibromyalgia.  He or she may be more up on what helps insomniac patients who have been diagnosed with fibromyalgia.  If you want to discuss this further, feel free to post a message asking for my email address, as I have alot of experience and knowledge regarding sleep aids and could give you the ins and out if you so desire.  Take care.   


LOL. What a shame, she looks 20 years older
My husband says she looks just like Dolly Parton - and that was NOT a compliment. LOL
Great answer! and what a shame (sm)
That there are many people like that at churches.  I wonder why?  Maybe they like to prey on nice people and they can find people at churches who will be nice to them despite their behavior. Unfortunately it makes the truly nice people look bad when there are so many of those in the group.
How true. It is such a shame for some of these breeds to all

be put in a category of being dangerous, etc.  Like I stated in my post above in reply to the Pitbull in the Halloween costume some breeders play on some of the traits of the ones they feel will be more aggressive, larger, more muscle, etc.  Then they breed them with another dog they feel has that potential, and so on.  A responsible breeder who is concerned only for the well being of the dog and loves the breed will breed only the ones who do not display aggression or the potential for it.  I once went to the house of a friend whose dad had a Doberman for years.  The dog was there that night, and to be honest I was afraid.  I entered the house cautiously to find that the dog was afraid of ME.  She had a squeaky toy and lay under the chair all night playing with the toy.  She was a thing of beauty.  I will never forget her and I learned new respect and to do some reading and research before coming reaching conclusions. 


Just heard she died. Such a shame.
I really hope they catch this guy.
I never dropped a baby and shame on anyone who has.
NM
shame on your 2 sisters! Did they talk
your mother into disinherit you or leave you out of her will? If there is nothing in written by your mother against you, you are still a legal heir and can still go to court!
Believe me, God will get them! Shame, shame!
Well, he WAS a prophet. Shame on cruel posters.
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A shame this place is so catty. But that is freedom of speech for you.
People come here to be supported, but need to realize there are all kinds of opinions out there. When you place yourself on a public forum to be supported expect to be bashed. That is the way of the world unfortunately. Just learn to try to see who wants to help and who wants to hurt. All kinds of agendas here. Your instincts will tell you who is real and who are the trolls. To all who are well-meaning here and look for support,or provide constructive criticism hang in there. Just filter out the bad and take away from it what you will.
Isn't that a shame? But it's not just a recent thing. I've heard of it
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That's great news. It's a shame that they couldn't prove it and punish him
for that horrible, horrible crime. I'm happy for the family in that they can get long-needed closure. While it will never take away the pain, but it has to give them some comfort in knowing who it was and that he is no longer walking the earth.

That poor sweet boy, may he rest in peace!
Just tell her the truth -
That you do not feel what she does is worth $60 at this point and feel as if she is rushing you out of the chair. She may reconsider her pricing if you have been a loyal customer. That puts the ball in her court. Be ready to find someone else.
Ain't THAT the truth! LOL nm
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It's the truth because God said it? sm

But how do you know God (or Jesus) said it?  Everything He's supposed to have said has been *interpreted* by mankind, then *translated* from another language, to another language, etc., and influenced by the *politics,* leaders, and culture of the day... how many thousands of years ago?  There are bound to be things lost in translation, misunderstood, misinterpreted (misquoted!). 


I'm just saying, it's all been subject to man's interpretation of it (and still is to this day).  It can't all be taken literally (though some people do which is incomprehensible to me). 


I think in many ways the bible is a beautiful piece of literature, but I also think much of it is fiction. 


You can count me among those who are spiritual but not religious (esp. organized religion, whoo boy!), and this is just one reason why. 


Interesting topic. 


now, isn't THAT the truth.....

Truth is ...
He is being really selfish, and if he ever found a woman who liked that lifestyle, he probably wouldn't like her all that much!

I have an ex-husband who turned our yard into a junk yard and spent his free time fixing other people's things while our place went to heck.

I know how you feel! Good luck.
Nothing else taken with this- a lie or truth?
and eat pecans frequently. I thought perhaps someone from New Orleans could perhaps use some kind of (now this really sounds odd) peppers added that I would normally not use in a pie such as this. This is a new housekeeper and she comes this Friday- I am gonna hate to have her ask how was the pie..Hubby believes in telling a little white lie- I am for telling her what happened to me. She has gone into a catering business. What to do - tell little white lie or the truth?
DEFINITELY tell the truth!
My gosh if this was definitely from the pie and I was the one baking/selling them I would want to know...potential lawsuits, etc. YUCK! Can't hurt to ask her what was in it that might have effected you that way...just maybe say you are worried about a nut allergy but wanted to be sure of all of the ingredients before you got tested for it. I see your point that you were wondering about the spice or something...makes sense now...maybe it was a different type of flour in the crust, who knows...I would definitely tell her so she can evaluate what she has done different at least in that pie.
The truth would be my way
husband is a milk toast type of guy and does not like to rock the boat so to speak. I had nothing else with the pie last evening and noticed I had a funny after taste, such as a, not really burning but strange, thought undertone if that applies in this case. Last night hunting the Benadryl thought if something like peppers they use in New Orleans and I was not used to them. I eat regular pecan pie and this was no where close to what I have had all these years.
Ain't that the truth!!!
If she's that mature, she should have tried the best birth control, which is not having sex at all!!! 
Probably the truth is that if they don't

come around, they have a little peace.  Every encounter with their mother is going to ruffle her feathers and freak her out.  You are a cold, cold woman.  Hopefully they are getting some acceptance from their in-laws, if you haven't screwed them up enough to wreck their marriages too. 


How about you tell the person you are talking long distance to, "I'm sorry, my daughter is calling, I have to go."  Where are your priorities?


i don't know how much truth there is to this
that we will have to claim that money from the rebate on our 2008 taxes; that if it was a REFUND, that would be different. anyone know anything about this? same thing happened with our property taxes "rebate"... have to claim that.... doesn't really shock me though
It is most always better to tell the truth
Especially if they are your friends. If they really are then they will understand, but if they find out you lied to them they will eventually loose all respect for you.

This is a lesson I've been trying to teach my daughter for years.....hasn't worked yet, but she doesn't have many friends either.
I think there is some truth to this
If a young man is very close to his mother, and he looks to her as an example for what women are like, then yes it is possible they look for a girl like Mom, especially if she is a good cook. However, my daughter told my son that the June Cleaver's, from Leave it To Beaver, are about gone, and the girls from this generation are very different. My son was used to my keeping my house clean, having meals at the dinner table at night, chauffering them to their activities, staying up at night and helping with school projects, working 2 jobs to make ends meet, and being a single parent, and I raised my sons and daughters to think that a job was not a dirty word and they needed to help out too.

It is funny though that the girl that my son married is similar in appearance to me, but she does not cook, nor does she clean, but she is a good mother and manager of their finances. My son said the other day that he longs for a home-cooked meal at anytime, and wishes I lived closer, although he has gotten to be a good cook.
Ain't that the truth....
There is no such thing as a cheap horse either, especially in California--what is hay running there now, anyway? Was pricey when I left 3 years ago, so I bet it is much higher now.
Boy, isn't that the truth.

I used to think people who made a point of organic this or that and organic cleaning products were a little kooky.   Not so much any more. I built a greenhouse with money I inherited from my mom last year so I can grow my own food and not pay $15 a pound for organic anything at Whole Foods. 


If we truly looked at the FDA "allowables" as to what is allowed in mass produced food, I think we'd all turn a little green.


Ain't that the truth, Sylvia?!?!?!!!!

Ain't that the truth! That ought to be regulated too :)
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Just from experience and just the truth
NM
When they ask, tell them the truth. There is a reason they are asking. nm
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I think they are the ones posting truth about ESL &
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You want the truth or a little white lie?
I ate 3 great big peppers and that is the truth. No one else here, hubs told me he does not like. I usually do not cook but decided I wanted some and got all my ingredients together and they were really, really good. Double burp....
I think there might be a nugget of truth there....
Or at least there's something reminiscent.

Not long after DH and I got married, he stood in the bedroom door and just laughed and laughed at me (but in a good way, you could hear the love). Turned out I was sitting up in bed, watching TV, reading and nibbling on a snack — just like his mother did.

(He also laughs at me and the girls when we remind him of my mother.)

maybe she is telling the truth
would you scare kids with that???? There are certain things that should not be discussed with children.
Wow - did you ever tell the truth in that post!! nm
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When to tell your kids the truth ...

So, if you made mistakes in the past, do you tell your kids what you did and still tell them why they shouldn't?


I am inclined to tell my kids the truth about my past mistakes with drinking, sex, etc.  I don't think I have a sordid past, but I could have made better decisions.  I am not naive to think this might change the way my kids think about me, but if presented in the right context maybe I could pass my life experience on.


What do you think?  Would you keep your bad decisions to yourself or let it all out?


If you find out the truth behind this, let me know
I bought a home years ago and found out after having lived there probably 20 something years someone died there and someone else murdered there, so I was told. I was not told anything at all prior to my buying. It seems like an unnecessary disclosure to a potential buyer anyway.
Thing Is, you are going to have to tell her the truth.
I know she is your mom and you really don't want to hurt her (and this will), but you are going to have to bite that bullet and be honest, and do it as soon as possible before she makes any more plans.  No, this is not like her coming to your house.  This is YOUR family's vacation.  I am surprised she did not think of that, so you need to tell her with no beating around the bush.  Then in the future, she will wait for an invitation before thinking your family wants to drag them along.  It may make her think about a few other things too.  This honestly is a hard thing to do but it will be healthy for your relationship in the future.
i totally agree with that. it is the truth.
right before i told my 3rd grade daughter the truth about santa she was saying "but momma, i believe, i believe..." like she was just beggin to believe. it was sad,but she knew that if she believes santa will come