It's not the worker's fault. She has to follow the rules or be fired. sm
Posted By: clerk on 2009-01-28
In Reply to: Dear Retail Worker: - Customer #3
I've taken a lot of flack from a lot of customers, and the run-of-the-mill retail worker really has no freedom to make decisions. When the worker is caught between a yelling customer and a yelling manager, who do you think she'll listen to?
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I'm probably older than you and I DO follow rules of etiquette,
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Rules is rules. Cant make exceptions or everyone
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I have always made my rules and the rules were
no overnighters for my son or my daughter with their girlfriends or boyfriends. I would never back down on my values and as long as you pay to be the boss, then you are. Simple.
Did someone actually get fired for this?
Should They Be Fired?
If they don't and ask them to pay back the no smoking benefit $$ I wonder how far they can go back? Sara 39 Whirlpool workers suspended over smoking liesINDIANAPOLIS, Indiana (AP) -- Smoking can be hazardous to your health, and it's turning into a bad career move, too. A Whirlpool Corp. factory in Evansville, Indiana, has suspended 39 workers who signed insurance paperwork claiming they don't use tobacco and then were seen smoking or chewing tobacco on company property. Now, some could be fired for lying, company spokeswoman Debby Castrale said. As annual health care premiums rise more than 10 percent a year, many companies are trying to rein in costs by encouraging healthy living. "I can't think of a client of ours who has not shifted their focus to controlling the cost of their health care plan," said Indianapolis, Indiana, benefits lawyer Mike Paton. Some employers have developed wellness programs to motivate employees, while others ask employees to state on benefits forms whether they use tobacco. Whirlpool, based in Benton Harbor, Michigan, uses financial incentives to encourage U.S. workers and their dependents to abstain from tobacco use, spokeswoman Jill Saletta said. The specifics vary according to location. In Evansville, the 1,500-employee factory charges tobacco users an extra $500 in annual health insurance premiums. The refrigerator factory has levied the extra premium since 1996, and it depends on employees to honestly fill out forms. It doesn't mandate blood tests to detect nicotine or trail employees outside work, Castrale said. Management suspended the 39 employees Friday after they were spotted using either chewing tobacco on company property or taking a drag in one of the factory's dozen shelters for outdoor smoking, Castrale said. "It's definitely not something we wanted to do," she said. "It's unpleasant." The employees were suspended without pay, and they'll present their case at "fact-finding" meetings before management determines their fate. Whirlpool had to recall some laid-off workers to keep production running due to the suspensions. A 2007 national survey showed that 16 percent of all large employers -- those with 20,000 or more employees -- adjust health care premium contributions according to the worker's smoking status, according to the human resources consulting firm Mercer. The federal Employee Retirement Income Security Act limits the changes an employer can make to a health premium because of a worker's unhealthy habits. But it doesn't set parameters on punishment if an employee lies about his or her habit, Paton said. Lewis Maltby, president of the National Workrights Institute, which advocates for employee privacy, sees no problem with employers trying to curb smoking. But he worries that the trend of cracking down on employees' unhealthy behavior is extending beyond tobacco use. "We shouldn't have to give employers complete control over our private life so they can save a few dollars on medical care," he said.
I got fired once ...
supposedly because after only a half-day of training on the front desk, I could not address the patients by name when I saw them! Since my entire period of employment up until I was called to substitute at the front desk was spent stashed in the back transcribing, I had never even SEEN the patients, and thus could not possibly be expected to match names with faces. Obviously, they fired me for other reasons. It is equally obvious that the OP's co-workers and supervisors are not looking out for her best interests, and the lack of ability to understand a couple of ESL dictators is probably the least of her problems. (I am assuming it is a her. Forgive me if I am mistaken about that.)
Accents or no, some dictators defy understanding. Right now I am transcribing a doctor from Nigeria who is a little mushy but she speaks quite slowly, pronounces almost everything correctly, and I stand in awe at her (and most other ESL docs, frankly) command of English usage and syntax, with the added "bonus" of medical language on top of everything else.
And one night when I was pretty new on this job, I transcribed a VERY difficult ESL doc, whom I was ready to KILL by the time I was done. (And he was from my tertiary backup account so I didn't have samples to refer to, or prior experience with him.) But at the end, he said something like, "Thank you for taking the trouble to transcribe this dictation, God bless you, please." Okay, he was allowed to live. ;)
And I've NEVER been taken to task for leaving blanks. Never. I was even told by a supervisor that if I have to leave 100 blanks, so be it--they'd rather I blank it than try to guess.
Absolutely, and she should be fired...!
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so ya think if ABC fired her, they wouldn't tell the
I'm so fired up left off, "I don't THINK its right! nm
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I think it is in bad taste and he should be fired from his job...
but I am not sure it is a crime. An 18-year-old knows what she is doing. To be honest, so does a 16 or 17-year-old. I certainly think that he should lose his teaching license, but it really is not sexual misconduct with a minor. She was not a minor.
Walmart fired my daughter...
the last week in November. She had called in sick 2 days before, and the assistant manager who fired her said they knew she had called, but they were firing her for a "no call, no show." The truth is my daughter worked in lay-away, which has been discontinued at Walmart, and they had no place for her in another department.
She had loved working there and was totally crushed when they fired her. A month before Christmas . . . what a nice surprise!
I think Walmart stinks.
Yes, they should be fired and required to refund
They hurt everyone with this. It is lying, cheating and stealing.
It's his time if he's off the clock. Otherwise he should be fired - nm
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He is 100% at fault.
He agreed to park it on his property and it was stolen while on his watch. End of story. Yes, your husband perhaps should have taken care of things before he drove off for the night, BUT your BIL agreed to keep it for him. Yes, as the poster below stated, it is really no different than if he borrowed your car and it was stolen while in his possession. I would not let it go, they are plain out and out wrong. I do not understand how people sleep at night when they treat others that way, family to boot!
I truly hope you get something resolved. Good luck to you.
It's not the dog's fault
Why would you call them stupid dogs and then say you can't shoot them?? and you have a dog of your own. It's the pet owner's responsibility. The dog's don't bark just to annoy the neighbors. The owners should take responsibility or they shouldn't have dogs.
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No....it isn't the dog's fault.
The OP was complaining of just barking. I was complaining about a lot more than just barking. My mother is 64 y/o, widowed, and suffers from MS. She has a right to be able to walk in her yard without worrying about the neighbor's dog knocking her over, barking at her, tearing out her trash, or getting under her feet and making her fall.
I understand that it isn't the dog's fault but no matter how many times you call the Sherriff or the humane society.....nothing is done. They still have the dogs and my mom still deals with it everyday. She has no rights whatsoever to keep her yard animal free and she has to live like this.
I personally feel that anyone should have a right to shoot any stray animal on their property. If pet owners aren't going to be responsible enough to keep their pets in their own yard, they have to live with the idea of someone shooting their pet. I don't like other dogs on my property. I don't allow my dog to go off of our property.
Not your fault sm
There is a program on called, "Intervention" and you may or may not get it in your area (on cable). It is a very sad but true reality show that deals with addiction. You didn't do it to him. He has this "go" factor in his brain that makes him want the drug more than anything else in the world and he will lie, cheat and steal to get it. If there is free counseling, get it or call NA and ask if there is a program you could go to yourself to learn how to deal with it. You can't go to AA for drugs unfortunately because they'll let you know right off the bat that it's for alcohol. There may be programs for multiple addictions you could attend. It all depends what tools you have wherever you live. Don't cushion his fall and don't be an enabler. I had to cut myself off from a brother I love dearly but he has to learn that I won't give him money, won't take his BS stories or anymore schemes. When I saw him last, I cried, he looked awful, but he did it to himself, the drug rules. There are many online chat rooms and I think if you Google "Recovery" or 12 step programs you may want to go in, sign in and just listen and at least get some feedback. You did not cause it and don't think for one moment you can cure it. The only one who can help your son is God and if you believe it, some power higher than himself. But he has to want it more than the drug. Intervenion may help. Don't enable him or he will reach a tragic end. Most of all, take care of yourself.
it's not all his fault
My dad is a teacher in California (I live in a different state) and has had 10 days per school year cut from his paycheck. The vacations are also longer during the school year as well. I don't understand the whole new office furniture purchase from your superintendent, but it sounds like your school system is just like everywhere else. Government-run systems/jobs have all had to make cuts, and schools seem to be the first that get screwed. All of the changes he has made probably stem from mandatory cuts he has to make to save money. Each school is going to be different how they implement them.
My husband's parents work for a government college and they are having the same problem with money. The college laid off so many people to save money. It is sad, but nothing can be done when it comes to mandatory cut backs. Hopefully things will change in the future, but it sounds like they are floundering to find ways to save money anyway the can.
I have been a much happier worker since...
....moving the bird feeders to in front of my office window! I just love watching them all and seeing what else comes out of the woods for some seed and suet. Lots of red squirrels and chippy's, the occasional cute grey mouse, and I guess even deer, but I never see THEM, just the tracks and the "raisinettes" around the feeder. Our neighbor gets tons of wild turkeys at her place, as well as racoons, flying squirrels, and skunks! She goes through about 50 pounds of black oil sunflower seeds as well as 25 pounds of dog chow (for the skunks, racoons, and larger critters) a week! Can you imagine?!
My other neighbor has a wild Merlin falcon (a girl named Helln Fury), who he caught and trained himself. Very cool bird. Can't say I've ever seen one 'round here but I guess they do exist, you just have to know what you're lookin' at when they are up in the air.
Love the wild critters and glad so many others on here appreciate them too!
what kind of worker?
Hi,
Thought the topic to interesting so wanted to reply. I chose my hours 6 p.m. to 2 p.m because my husband works steady 11 p to 7 a. He sleeps in the evening so thought it woud be a good time for me to work. Then when winter started, which is only noticeable by the light) I started 5 p to 1 a. Works out good for me and like it because I always have some work under my belt for the next day. Also, we get to have our days off together on Wed. and Thur. Working well so far. In summer will probably go back to 6 to 2 so I can swim.
Dear co-worker
Stop calling me Fifty million times a day. If I don't answer the phone I am not home, busy doing something, or I just don't want to talk to you. Also, when you call stop calling my name so many times. I know what my name is.
Your co worker Me
Dear Co-worker of DH
I realize that your shift starts at 5 am but I would appreciate it if you would not call the house at that time unless it is a real emergency. The last 4 times you have called with the same problem my dh told you the same answer....I'll fix it when I get in. It is not a problem. Buy a clue and stop interrupting what little sleep I get.
what type of worker
You need either the converter box or a new TV that by law has to have digital in it. I have a new TV and I scan the digital part of my TV. I get maybe one station every few days, so obviously I have the capability otherwise I would not get any digital TV. It is the reception as I live in a rural area. I do have to get a roof top antenna. I was wondering what type of worker does that? When I look in the yellow pages, all it has is satellite and cable, nothing about antenna installers. I was wondering can just a handy man that I would hire install one or do I have to get an electric contractor to do it.
hospital CEO's at fault too
Nurses not work when they are tired? Hospitals need to hire enough nurses so that won't be forced to work when they are tired- ARH nurses in our state are on strike right now fighting for this. about the Quaid babies, I agree the meds should be in totally different colored bottles.
You are saying to make up when you think not your fault?
I have done this before, a relative got very angry with me years ago and I told them if I could visit again I would never say anything to upset them again- if they said the sky was striped I would say, yes it was- that is what I had to do if I wanted to see them so I have done that- now having said that- he is upset about the fact he thinks I took his money and told me so. Why try to make amends when it would never be right in his eyes- he still feels slighted. An apology from me would not change his perspective on my having
so called cheated him out of what was due him.
Except FL has no fault divorce. Everything is 50/50.
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And it's not their fault you offend them.
But--this is another reason. It was very nicely explained, and yet the arguing continues. Sometimes you just need to state your opinion and move on. There are some you just won't win. Like this one--or the puppy mill one. Somtimes people just don't want to hear it, let alone hear it over and over again. Just step away from the situation.
how did i even imply it was his fault?
I was asking if it is something that can be worked out. Obviously this is my only long-term relationship. And what gave you the impression I "go out all the time". First of all I don't drink, at all. Secondly I NEVER went out until 2 years ago because he was in the Marines and I just stayed home all the time waiting for him and being worried... but you sound a lot like my mom, like if I am not married and popping out babies by the time I'm 30, I'm a total failure.
but that is not you daughters fault sm
that you had such a horrible life. I feel for you. I too had a pretty rough childhood but no way would I even think to make one of my kids pay for that. Sounds like you need some serious counseling or you are going to be one miserable lonely old lady.
The slain social worker one? nm
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According the animal control worker..
We have one of the animal control worker's living across the street from us and she asked my son how Lily was doing tonight. He told her that she was coughing and she said that the dogs at Animal control all have kennel cough right now and to bring her out tomorrow for some medicine. I'm still just going to bring her to the vet because of her itching and all the mucous. I think I'll just go over to her house if I have any more questions about Lily.
Lily is probably stressed with all her new changes, but other than throwing up, itching and coughing, she seems to feel right at home. We bought her a big cushion for a bed and when I put the boys to bed at night, she goes to bed in her bed too. Anyhoo...thanks again for the support. I'll update after the vet tomorrow.
Do they by any chance have a social worker you...
could contact? That way, if the social worker stepped in no one in the family would really be so "involved" and it might save hard feelings further down the road but might have the same results.
What woman? What social worker?
We need a little more info to go on if anyone's going to try to help you out on this! You've got me intrigued, though! Lee
I have a co-worker that insists on telling me
I'm killing myself. I told him the Dr. said my grandmother may have lived longer if she had quit. He asked how old she was - I told him 93. Now he shuts up most of the time.
Dear Retail Worker
Do you know the reason I get upset about verifying my driver's license when I give you my credit card is because it is actually against the law to ask to see the license after presenting my card? Check it out!
Dear Retail Worker:
As a customer who used her charge card and had her identity stolen by the employee...BITE ME.
Follow up to the above
Parvo causes the mucus, blood and also weight loss that you are describing. Once I found out what was in my yard, it seemed like it never went away. Years later I had forgotten and hubs brought home another puppy and put in the backyard. The same thing happened. If not treated in a yard, seems like it just stays on. Older dogs seem not to have problem because I guess their immunity built up. I hope you get to a veterinarian as soon as possible because it does kill if not treated.
I can't follow this for the
Follow up
I guess my first question would be, who made the decision to have the sleepover? Obviously you allowed your son to have the boy over -- did you talk to the mother about the arrangements? What if something had happened, i.e., a medical condition and you needed to contact the parents? Sounds to me like you were "duped into being a free babysitter for that kid" (and not sure if they had others who might have been farmed out) but the parents were totally irresponsible, but you have to take part of the blame as well for not checking into things more thorougly -- I think that if the parents had not answered a home line or a cell line and NOT called back within a hour or 2 I would have been on the phone to the authorities -- when are parents going to learn that these are innocent, sweet, children and something like this can leave emotional scars for a very long time
I meant before now- you sound like it's my fault
I mean I have never gotten in trouble before this. Yes - I work for an extremely strict company - if you are late more than 5 minutes twice in a 30 day period, it counts as an absence. I missed one day last week for my daughter having strep; prior to that I had missed one day in 7 months due to child illness. My employer says you have to have someone else to watch your child when they are sick
And I bet the divorces weren't her fault, either.
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It is not my fault others get offended at my opinions
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maybe it's the post office fault.
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No, NOTHING makes it the woman's fault, BUT....
I don't think the woman has anything to do with whether a man cheats or not. Period. End of Story. Spare me the long sob story about how the woman *never put out* for her man.
That said...
If a person who has been cheated on just sits and lets nature take its course, almost always they are vindicated.
If Princess Diana had just let Charles be Charles, he would have become and STAYED the laughingstock of Britain. And she would have become Queen. (Okay, maybe not Queen, but she was then and is still an icon in Britain, and he would have never recovered from his cheating on her).
In looking at the John Edwards scandal - it's very similar. Elizabeth never did anything wrong. If she continues on that path until her death, ultimately John Edwards will probably NEVER recover politically speaking.
When you do the RIGHT thing instead of the convenient thing, you will ultimately be vindicated.
I also disagree that it is never the woman's fault.
I do not know what your circumstances are, but there are a lot of wives out there whose fault it is that their husbands leave them.
There is something I would never, never do and this is cheating with a married man.
This is downright despicable, ruining marriages.
Unless you are a food stamp eligibility worker....
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Food stamp eligibility worker, not!
I am not a worker in food stamps but I definitely in the past have known of several people getting food stamps that should not- one being my housekeeper- one being my deceased husband's daughter- both knew the system and "how to work it," cared nothing about having a real job, and just in for the handouts. Get this- my housekeeper had twin sons (grown now)- she got welfare for them, her sister claimed them on income taxes for years - I would call that double dipping. Oh, the daughter got welfare, food stamps, section 8 housing, all the freebies and lived with a guy who worked for the city making good money. You don’t have to be a eligibility worker to have seen this going on. Oh, by the way, when I called internal revenue several times to tell them about things, do you think they wanted to talk with me?? I don’t think so.
Update on social worker from my post the other day (sm)
I posted the other day about where I had seen that social worker before, and couldn't find her on the cast list - wouldn't have helped if I had. I was watching Sally Field on the Boniva commercial and it popped into my head. Social worker was on that Boniva commercial where those 4 women were supposed to be being quiet in a museum. Isn't it funny how the brain works? - haha - especially mine.
Well I am early morning and evening worker
My body just does better and so I tell myself it is okay. I go strong from 5 to 11, out to deliver, back and then work 1 to 3 at a clinic, back home and then 7 to 9 sometimes later. Before I had the clinic I still took afternoons off as I am not a good producer in the afternoon and so I worked from 6 to 11 and then 6 to 9 or so. But I have my own accounts and can let me body dictate when my productive times are.
Dear retail worker--Thank you for checking...
my ID. So few clerks actually do and I appreciate those who would not let someone use my card should it be lost or stolen.
Just an update on my Social Worker visit.
No one has come by yet, but it's only Monday, but I did get the house cleaned with the help of my son, his girlfriend, and two of his friends. I took the advice below about shuffling all my ex-husband's junk to the garage. He has a fixer upper car in the garage anyway, so I just piled stuff around it, on top of it, and in it. The garage is a complete mess, but we don't live in there, so whatever. My son and his buddies cleaned up outside the house too. We had about 10 bags of trash for the trash truck this morning, but they took every one of them. Thank goodness!!
I'm way more calmer now than I was on Friday when all this crap broke loose. Thanks to everyone for calming me down. I'm ready now for when the social worker stops by. I saw another officer over the weekend at the gas station and he asked me about my situation, asked me if my ex was ever served and then told me that he was proud of me for finally getting rid of him and that he would talk to his boss about this whole "social services thing." He said his boss (who was the officer at my house on Friday) doesn't really know the ins and outs of the community like the officers do and he'd make sure he let him know that my ex is the one causing all the trouble.
So that made me feel better too. I just can't believe how ugly this is getting. I guess I'd better prepare myself because it will probably get worse before it gets better. The divorce is just beginning.
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