It's named Gardasil. Unless it is government or state funded.....(sm)
Posted By: giddy pc guru on 2007-02-03
In Reply to: Please provide documenatation; I find that very hard to believe. - giddy pc guru
I can not see too many parents jumping at this opportunity. It is a noncovered service by all insurances. It is given in a series of 3 separate injections. The current recommendation is to be given to young girls between the ages of 10 to 12. So if a parent decides to vaccinate her little girl against this, I guess the "bird and the bees talk" will have to be undertaken before the little girl asks "Why I am going to the doctor to get a shot, and what is it for? (given the very natural inquistive nature of children on all subjects.)
No smoking in public places, must wear seat belt in car, must wear bicycle helmet, and some states helmet required when riding motorcycles, restaurants not using transfats in their cooking,.....WHEN WILL ALL THESE NON-SELF INFLICTED RESTRICTIONS STOP????????...IS THIS STILL AMERICA??
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Gardasil
I so agree with you. This is too new and the FDA approves things only to find out later they have horrible side effects. I have two daughters and they will not be getting this injection.
Gardasil
Agreed! I am sick of others telling me what to put in my kids. If it comes to that I will be home schooling.
Gardasil
That is my greatest fear as well.
Gardasil
You're wrong about that. I have United Healthcare and they paid the entire cost for my daughter who is 17. I feel that in no way does this condone premarital sex. My daughter is absolutely aware that this does not prevent pregnancy, HIV or other STDs. We have had lots of discussions about sex and that it should be saved for marriage in a loving relationship. However, I'm not so naive as to think that she may possibly not wait. I feel it is my responsibility to keep her healthy in any way I can. Also what about rape? Sometimes our "morals" aren't someone elses. By the way, the recommended age is 9-26. Either wait until your daughter is old enough to understand the implications or as a previous poster mentioned, just treat it like another immunization if you're not ready to get into that discussion. I don't know that I agree with making this mandatory, but if so, maybe that would also make it more affordable. I also had qualms about future implications of this, but sometimes you just have to take a chance and hopes the benefits outweigh the risks.
Gardasil
But this is a vaccination against cancer, not a treatment.
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Your are 100% correct! I wish people would speak up.
Gardasil....
Have you researched this? I have been researching it and I will not let it be given to my daughter. As far as a pap, I don't know. Depending on the age, it probably wouldn't hurt.
Gardasil...
Well, when it first came out I was a little skeptical as Texas made it mandatory for girls of certain ages and it didn't see the testing on it was very long. There was a big discussion on here a while back about it. I'm sure you can search the archives. Anyway, one of the things I found was that cervical cancer can be detected with regular pap smears and then treated with a high success rate. Also, I found that there had been at least 8 deaths and some of the side effects are very severe, including paralysis, Guillain-Barre, and seizures. I understand why they have it but there are just too many reports coming out of girls that have had severe reactions or died from it. There actually could be more deaths as I haven't checked up on it in a few months. I tend to be a little paranoid than other mothers, but I lost a daughter to leukemia shortly before her 3rd birthday and I only have 1 daughter left. I don't have a problem with people taking their daughters to the doctor and getting it as long as they are fully informed of its side effects and have researched it. I just prefer not to let my daughter have it. I will stick with the yearly paps when she gets old enough. Where I do think it would be helpful is if you have a family history of cervical cancer, which I do not, but I would still be very cautious and ask as many questions as you can to make sure you are comfortable with your daughter having it.
Gardasil...
I read that somewhere about Australia providing it for males. I'm sure it will hit here eventually. Maybe they're currently testing it on males. Also, I think it was the UK that has another vaccine out that is supposed to target 2 of the strains of HPV but does not have all of the benefits of Gardasil. Anyway, maybe someone else knows more about the males getting it. I would just Google it and see. I researched a while back and very, very little today, but was more focused on just finding certain information, not on whether it is available for males yet or in a testing phase for them.
Gardasil
OMG, that never even occurred to me. I'm over 50 and no cervix but thought about getting it anyway just in case because I wouldn't want to pass it on if I was exposed. No condom lectures please.
CDC & Gardasil.....sm
I was reading the posts below about the vaccine as I had been considering it for my daughter. I looked it up on the CDC website. They deemed it safe and effective. And I do agree with one of the posters, it should be the parent/daughter's choice. Not the state's. It's not 'mandatory' here in Michigan yet but I'm seriously considering it for my daughter.
Here's some info from the site. I did leave out a few small paragraphs so this post wouldn't be excessively long but if you'd like to go to the site here's the address:
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/vaers/gardasil.htm
Reports of Health Concerns Following HPV Vaccination
HPV Vaccine Safety
The safety of the HPV vaccine was studied in 7 clinical trials before it was licensed. There were over 21,000 girls and women ages 9 through 26 in these clinical trials.
As of August 31, 2008, there have been 10,326 VAERS reports of adverse events following Gardasil vaccination in the United States. Of these reports, 94% were reports of events considered to be non-serious, and 6% were reports of events considered to be serious.
Based on all of the information we have today, CDC and FDA have determined that Gardasil is safe to use and effective in preventing 4 types of HPV. As with all approved vaccines, CDC and FDA will continue to closely monitor the safety of Gardasil. Any problems detected with this vaccine will be reported to health officials, healthcare providers, and the public, and needed action will be taken to ensure the public's health and safety.
Non-serious adverse event reports
The vast majority (94%) of the adverse events reports following Gardasil have been non-serious. Reports of non-serious adverse events after Gardasil vaccination have included fainting, pain and swelling at the injection site (the arm), headache, nausea and fever. Fainting is common after injections and vaccinations, especially in adolescents. Falls after fainting may sometimes cause serious injuries, such as head injuries, which can be easily prevented by keeping the vaccinated person seated for up to 15 minutes after vaccination.
Serious adverse event reports
All serious reports (6%) for Gardasil have been carefully analyzed by medical experts. Experts have not found a common medical pattern to the reports of serious adverse events reported for Gardasil that would suggest that they were caused by the vaccine. The following is a summary of the serious adverse event reports that were submitted to VAERS between June 8, 2006 and August 31, 2008.
Speaking of Gardasil, I have a
Just curious if anyone here knows why they are not marketing this to males. I have two sons, and I'm not sure whether or not I would/do want them to have this, but I remember reading several months back about Australia providing Gardasil for males also, and my sister made an excellent point about males being more likely to have multiple partners or to not want to use condoms so more likely to spread the virus, even though they cannot get cervical cancer (not saying females don't engage in risky behavior, it just seems to me that oftentimes girls are pressured into sex and all too often they do it because they think there is something special about the relationship, when really it is all about scoring for the guy, but that is just my opinion and I do know there are good guys out there, and my sons are being raised to be a part of that group), so it makes sense to me that males should also be protected from contracting the virus to begin with, and that vaccination of males quite possibly could offer a greater measure of protection overall than vaccinating females. Just wondering what you guys think.
On boys and Gardasil
I have thought the same thing before, about it being only for females, and found that in Australia it is also available for males. IMHO, promiscuity is certainly not exclusive to males, but I believe it is more common (at least it used to be), so seems like they are the ones that are more culpable for the spreading of HPV. It's the whole playboy generation gone wild.
Also, just heard a few days ago about HPV being a cause of oral cancer. Wondered how long it would take them to make the link.
I live in Georgia and had not heard that it is mandatory for females here, but read that most states that are considering mandatory inoculation and have introduced a bill also have an "opt out" clause.
If I had a daughter or daughters, I do not think that I would be rushing out to have them inoculated. 
Question about Gardasil-Do girls need a Pap and
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It was our government that got those
people into trouble. Most could not afford 200K houses and they should never have given them loans. Also the fact they were led to believe they could afford them. These are people who had nothing and just wanted the "good life".
Government has nothing to do with this particular
were 'banned'. This teacher isn't teaching 'strong political views'. She's just including her class in a positive experience. There's already far too much negativity taught in school, church, and at home.
This is just another example of the government interfering where
they should not be. We women, as adults, know what is RIGHT for US. They do not. They should have no say whatsoever in this. It is called a CHOICE! As American citizens we should have freedome of choice!
It's OUR place to tell our government that
Don't forget, the government is supposed to be owned by us, US citizens. They have gotten so giddy with power, they have forgotten that. Why else do they write their own paychecks, given themselves raises, and can continue to draw HUGE incomes after they leave office for the rest of their lives, including HUGE incomes for their wives long after they are dead, free healthcare, all the perks. These are public officials. Once they are out of office, they're on their own. We have let them take control of OUR government. It's up to us to take it back. You have a phone, e-mail, petitions.......you get the message across to them. Don't wait for others to do it for you.
That is why they are here... Mexican government wants them out
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If the &*%& government would let teachers...
and heck, even students arm themselves, we wouldn't be sending lambs to the slaughter like that. They would've at least had a fighting chance. If I'm going to die, give me the chance to die while fighting to protect myself and others. Why should the criminals be the only ones who can arm themselves? This is a very heated topic 'round these parts where it seems they want to take our right to protect ourselves away at every corner.
Didn't one of our fellow MTs on this board here have a daughter who got into some serious doo-doo at her school for having pepper spray on her keychain? Explain to me how THAT makes sense to punish a kid, or parent, for wanting to give them a fighting chance and protecting themselves.
there are MANY ways our government
and I believe there are many people angry about the money spent on this war.
Dear Government
Please pass a law to stop offshoring so I can have my job back!
I agree completely....government once again
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The big deal is your federal government....
You're absolutely right. They have some identifiable information on file about citizens, so why would they need to change anything and put more restrictions in place? I'm more confused as to why US citizens don't ask why? If they've got everything on us, then what could possibly be the reason to do this?
That should be the worst crisis in government!
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The government could manufacture and sell
universial health care a hundred times over. Problem solved.
The government will pay for birth control..
go to a planned parenthood. Very very cheap. There really is no excuse for 7 kids and no job for either parent. Join the military, get a job, like you said, at Wendy's or Wal-Mart or something. I am not against a hand up, but I am very much against a hand out.
Maybe then the government should ban Coca Cola and Pepsi from
producing their product, for as we all know, sugar causes teeth decay. And how about caffeine. Look at all the deliterious efforts that are a result of ingesting that! And how about alcohol. Maybe the government could shut down all restaurant and liquor stores and set us back to the days of prohibition, when, even though imany highly intelligent people STILL found a way to produce it to drink it to excess or not. Tobacco -- we all know it's not good for use, by Phillip Morris, et all still keeps cropping the tobacco field, and being taxed by the government. If anything, that is a perfect example of why the government should make it illegal to sell tobacco, but they dont, because the taxes they place on it are astronimal and keep all the workers "for the people" with cash in their pockets...The point is our freedom of choice is being decided by those other than ourselves, and with that, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY DISAGREE.
OnStar is your choice......not government imposed
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She was grateful, but our government sucks 'WAY too
Also, since a bonus is really a GIFT from the company, I think it should fall under "gift" status with the IRS, and not be subject to taxes, either.
I feel sorry for people who live off the government
I have raised 2 kids that did not have to do without and on my own. I was a divorced woman and did not, thank goodness, have to rely on anyone or anything else. I am much stronger than that.
I am a Libertarian and pretty fanatical about "Big Government"
This whole thing is a tempest in a teapot. The government ALREADY HAS this information. WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL??
If you look in the Government pages in your local phone book. sm
If you look in the government pages of your local phone book, you will find numbers for their DC office and their local offices if they have one. You can also call the White House. That number you have to call information for. You could even get the numbers online. THe area code for Washington, DC is 202.
For me it is not about gay/straight - it is about government taking too much control of our children
That is a really sore subject with me!! I want everyone to live their lives and teach their children as they see fit. As far as the gay/straight issue, I have taught my children who are 8 and 11 about homosexuality, about people being different, acceptance, not to be judgemental. I just have an issue when public school teachers want to use the school as a public forum for whatever reason. In school I remember a teacher who had strong political views and she taught us daily her way of thinking. I don't think that is fair. I think certain things should be reserved for parents to teach their children.
O talks about our government being fiscally responsible and his wife is wearing $500 designer shoes.
It's not "her money to spend as she pleases." It's my money, your money, his money, her money. O better put up or shut up and that means his family too. No more big talk about the deficit, fiscal responsbility, and redistribution of wealth when when his wife is walking around in designer duds. Am I the only person that sees hypocrisy in that?
Nope ~ used to have a cat named Sam...
now have 2 cats, Lucky and Tripp, and a shetland sheepdog, Casey, which was on my list of baby names, but DH didn't like it.
Cats named Bob
We name almost all our cats Bob, but we have last names, which we call them by like:
Marley, Bob
Eubanks, Bob
Dylan, Bob
Barker, Bob
and my friend had a Maine Coon named Joe Bob! He was huge!
We  cats here too, but currently don't have one. Maine Coons are darling.
A red Pomeranian named Fox (see pic)
Hope the link works.
Dog named Bo (Bo-Girl) nm
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Cat named Cali..sm
she's a calico-colored kitty!
Yep, I know of a person named -- sm
hunter greene. I also know of a young lady named Kinda Foxxy. lol
I would have named him Chops.
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If there is a will but no executor named, then
the state steps in as executor and makes sure that the heirs named in the will get their rightful share, according to your grandfather's wish.
Only in the case when there are no heirs and no will, the assets go to the state.
Yikes!! She named names!!
 
Thanx! Saw a boat named that once, but it suits me better!
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I have a Red Heeler named Eddie, a
an African Grey Parrot named Casey.
A doggie named Auggie. (nm)
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a cat named Dogfood - that is awesome! nm
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