Isn't it illegal to fire someone for observing their own religion? nm
Posted By: Doubt it, too on 2007-12-20
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Darlin', I saw fight fire with fire. Oh, I know, it's not being the "bigger person" BU
it's better than keeping it all inside and letting it fester. Your MIL sounds like mine and your DH sounds like mine as well. My husband doesn't want to deal with his mother, so he pretends he doesn't notice anything she says or does and the same goes for my FIL. He knows how is wife is, but he just ignores it. My husband will tell me privately "oh, you know how my mom is." For about the first year of marriage, I bit my tongue with his mother. But when I saw that my DH was never going to stand up for me, I decided to start biting back. She would say stuff like "You like you've put on a little weight, sweetie." and I'd say "you look like you've put on a few years."
My MIL and I have full on yell fests sometimes. We don't speak to each other for weeks or months because we're mad, but we always make up. Also, my DH has come around too. He has gotten to where instead of ignoring comments that his mother makes, before I can come back at her, he'll jump in and let her know that what she said was not acceptable. So now there are less fights because mommy doesn't like to be called out by her baby boy.
I think for a long time my MIl was just jealous of me because she was the main woman in her son's life for years and that changed when I came into the picture. So she turned every family gathering into a competition for her son's attention. I hated the first years, but now being married 16 years, I really don't care if she gets all his attention when we get together. Let her fix his food and tell him how great he is. Gives me the day off. 
Tell them it is against your religion.
That has worked for me and have had some say, really? I just refuse, simple for me.
As far as I know, it sounds like her religion....
is Penecostal. I believe that the women in that religion wears skirts at all times. Jehovah's Witnesses do not wear skirts all the time, only when attending congregation meetings and when out in their ministry that they do.
I feel very sorry for the OP because it sounds like her & hubby are good friends to the couple. It is true that divorce hurts everyone....what's worse is that marriage can sometimes hurt everyone too.
In a case like this, it is better to just be supportive to both parties and try not to take sides, hopefully they will iron things out.
This is not religion, this is MYTH.
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No MT, no politics, no religion. Anything else is ok.
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I am not trying to be disrespectful but her religion- sm
is/was her business. If I was on my deathbed the last thing I would want do discuss with my relatives would be if I had accepted Jesus into my heart, etc. I really hate it that new "christians" feel it is there mission in life to "save" everybody and feel they have to convert everybody and save them from themselves. My dad has recently refound religion and it is causing lots of strife in our family which is very non-religious. No one wants to be with him because his is constantly nagging us to go to church with him, to convert, etc. He blamed it on my mom (who is dead) as the reason why he did not return to the church sooner - horsepucky as Colonel Potter would say-- once she died he was re-born 3 months later. I am not baptist, nor do I go to church, nor do my kids. They know about Jesus and God though, but I don't feel the need or desire to go to church every Sunday and hand them over 10% of our gross income which in our case would almost pay for a second house. You should not be worrying about your grandmother's salvation, worry about yourself and stop trying to save the world. I am sure she is where she wanted to be and her spirit will live on in your heart and memories.
That's the Muslim Religion
Haven't you seen or heard how they treat their women, especially with all the stuff happening in the Middle East now. They are the ruler of the family and the women must cow-tow [sic] to them.
IOW, women are second class citizens in their world just like it used to be in the U.S. before Susan B. Anthony and others. If you daughter wants to be independent, there is no way it will happen being married to him. I wouldn't even bother telling the parents since they are getting a divorce, BUT MAKE SURE you get a restraining order on him or else it may get very dangerous.
I don't mean to scare you, but please be careful.
woodchucks & religion
How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could wood? Gotta smile....As for the posts about religion, let the Christians be.... It matters not whether you're Baptsit, Jewish, Budhist, Christian, Hindu, Catholic, AME Zion, 7th day Adventists, Jehovah's Witnesses, atheists...There's a lot more people here in the US with diverse backgrounds and beliefs....That's what makes this country so great...freedom of speech and the freedom to practice the religion of your choice Lighten up.
This is too much! I was just over on the Religion board and sm
someone posted a link to Alan Jackson's How Great Thou Art. It was an amazing tribute. Then another slow song came on after that and I came over here while letting the music play in the background. I was doing fine until I read about the 10 y.o. getting fitted for dentures. I am bawling my eyes out over here! I have a sweet, precious, well-behaved 10 year old son. I can't imagine. I just can't. O God, help us.
Illegal.
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illegal....
If you make it legal then it opens up a whole other can of legal worms. I don't think I want my tax money spent on settling the dispute between hoX and hoY. Even if they are paying taxes by making it a legal transaction, most will be doing it "under the table" (ha ha) and it will only be a burden on society, not a way to make more tax money.
As for paying their medical bills - I'm sure we the taxpayers are already doing that thru Medicaid.
Is she illegal too? sm
I would drop a dime to ICE so fast your head would spin. And why is your dad so much more interested in "helping her" when you are his flesh and blood? Have you talked to him about it? I'd be concerned about ID theft as well if she is using your mailbox too.
illegal
Wish ignorant people like YOU were illegal in this country! Look up the temperment tests & bite statistics... know your facts!
Pot is not illegal everywhere - sm
Woody Haralson was the host of a documentary about marijuana and how it came to be illegal in the US. During Prohibition, one man in D.C. wanted to make it illegal, but there was no data about it. So Congress ordered tests and everything came back finding no evidence of long-term effects so Congress found no reason to make it illegal. The man in D.C. wasn't happy, so he lobbied and was able to get a tax passed on pot.
Pot is not illegal to own wihout the tax stamps, which have never printed or distributed to The People. Pot is not illegal in certain quantities in certain states. Possession of marijuana without the stamps is the real reason it is illegal.
Just the facts, only the facts.
I am not turning this to a religion argument- sm
I prefer not to have my child taught at a church school for personal reasons. The school they were attending squeezed in church teachings as it is, though they were not a church school, and I was not thrilled with that either. Some teachers did it more than others. As for find a teacher that "really cares" only being at a church affiliated school, that is quite a broad statement to make. At the private school my kids had been attending, the teaches were paid 25% less than what the teachers made at the public school level, which could mean 3 things, the teacher really cared and wanted a small class size to teach, (2) wanted kids that were less troublesome to teach and better behaved (3) the teacher was inadequate and could not get hired in a public school (which was the case for a few teachers where my kids were). ---There are a lot of angles to look at when considering private school religion is one of them, tuition, quality of the teachers, certification, the school board, the parent organization, the involvment expects --ours was extreme involvement which is good and bad (burnout)--I am much happier now with the kids in public school, and my 8-y/o is now actually being taught by a qualified computer teacher and not some old lady who knew nothing about computers or computer programs trying to make a few extra bucks having the kids make designs and pictures on the computer (they had a new computer teacher every year as they'd quit every year). There are pros and cons to every school, you got to find out what you want to deal with.
yep, religion and landowners.....I agree! sm
The Crusaders - yep, I remember it well. Also, I divorced a man who later on became born again and now we cannot have ONE conversation without him bringing that aspect of life into the convo.
Really bothers me too........geesh.
there are *weird psychos* in EVERY religion...
I so respect everyone's religion but I am appalled by religious fanatics...the ones who go wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy overboard and I think misinpret Bibles.......taking things to the EXTREME.....
fanatics, extremists - nope, cannot deal with them....and shouldn't have to but I notice each religion has so many different levels and sects - it's almost like different religions within each separate religion....I get some of that....but not all of it....
*scratches head quizzically* because I'm a live and let live type of person and so it's difficult to understand why EVERYONE doesn't let everyone live and let live.....
Not the right term to use here. Amen against religion?nm
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I also know of one religion that helps out community
they actually pay back some in taxes to communities where there is a volunteer fire department, etc., precisely because they benefit from such services.
No, it is an inferance and any teaching of religion -sm
should be done by the parents. I had my kids in private school up until 2 years ago, took them out for several reasons, one being that many of the teachers were teaching about God and making them pray before every meal (snack and lunch). I was paying $12K a year for my kids not to be in a church school, as this was not a religious school (or at least not supposed to be). I could have sent them to many, many cheaper schools in the area but they were all church affiliated. Some of us don't want our kids to be taught by others. I explain all the different religions to my kids, but don't want some outsider to teach their beliefs to my child. It is not their business to teach religion, if they want to do that then become a minister and run a church.
i beg to differ. I wish i had freedom FROM religion
I get treated by a leper because I am athiest.
But, shouldn't this be on the RELIGION Board?? nm
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Are you rejecting religion and the Bible or God?
I have problems myself with organized religion; however, I have personal proof of life after death, which leads me to believe in a Creator. Just curious about where you're coming from.
I know the catholic religion has guidelines
that my religion, Methodist, don't have as I have relatives that have converted so they can get married. I think in my cousin's case, he did not want to jump through all those hoops and was thinking about getting married by a methodist preacher. That priest told them that if they do that, but then his wife-to-be would loose her place in the church, meaning she could still go but she could not, participate in ceremonies, make decisions for the church etc., because she would not be considered married and living in sin.
Anyway, I think your dd and future SIL should get a 2nd opinion from another priest. But, you should remember too that this is their battle. If they are big enough to get married, they are big enough to fight their own battles. If they truly want to be married than they will and this is pretty much small potatoes.
Someone should set THEM on fire -sm
That is totally infuriating. Too bad the 3 months *confinement* doesn't include being confined to a burn ward with 3rd-degree-burns over 75% of THEIR bodies. At the very le3ast, they should be made to sit through watching someone in the tubs at a burn ward getting their skin pulled off piece by piece. Might be a real eye-opener. Also, I think their parents should be liable for the kitten's vet bills.
A few months ago there was a horrible video on YouTube where some jerk in the Philippines (who must've been missing more than a few chromosomes, just like those girls!)lit a caged rat on fire in the same manner. Then, as if that weren't bad enough, he took another caged rat and poured boiling water on it. When that didn't quite kill it, he set it on fire. I went after that guy with a vengeance... got his video pulled from YouTube, (and hopefully him banned from it permanently). Also got on some of the internet forums in the Philippines and tried to track him down so that cruelty charges could be filed against him, pointing out that people who torture & kill animals often go on to start doing it to humans...
Cotati isn't far from where I live, and there is also a man in that area that *adopts* kittens from the free ads and on Craigslist, and tortures & kills them. People have been trying to get that guy put away, but it's been an uphill battle.
But to fire someone for
wishing someone Merry Christmas? That's what I'm talking about. God forbid anyone says the word, "Christ." I wonder how long it will take before "In God We Trust" is removed from our money.
I thought this would be illegal too
I'd defnitely report it. I'd be willing to bet somebody else already has. That just sounds totally disgusting to me.
No, not illegal, born here but
from the getto part of town. Don’t assume about things, ok? We are talking about a person who has never held a regular job, has lived off welfare, gotten food stamps and besides that, it is no where close to slave labor. OMG. She has been around so long she does what is the basics and then watches a lot of televison. Slave, she usually calls me and asks if I have anything for her to do.
Maybe he's an illegal, and didn't think he'd win, or they'd -
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This was a tiger in the zoo, not someone's illegal pet - sm
It escaped somehow from its enclosure (they think it scaled the fence somehow as they know it did not go out the cage door). The tiger was shot and killed. It had previously attacked a zoo keeper a year ago (they lived obviously or it would have been killed then probably).
mee too, wish they were illegal in this country
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I'm not sure, but I thought they were illegal
I know policemen use them, but I've never known them to be used by the public, but then again I could be way off base.
Well if you don’t care if illegal or not
then I am sure all the extra people here in the US do not worry you either, right? So much for illegalities.
PLEASE - Just b/c something is illegal does not make it sm
immoral. Those laws (drug use in particular) change according to societies. Throughout history humans have chosen to change their mental status through use of substances, alcohol, chanting, fasting and religion! Pot is no more harmful (and probably less so) than alcohol.
We are wasting so much tax money on imprisoning people for using a weed, in the privacy of their own homes - what a collosal waste of money.
So who gets to decide what is illegal and what is not? You? sm
That's a slippery slope. Like the poster below who wants sugar taxes - actually that's not a bad idea since sugary drinks and snacks are making our kids fat. Let's see - then we should tax fast food or control the amount that fatties can eat, right?
Where does it end?
Sounds like a conservative religion. Mennonite
perhaps? They are less conservative than Amish, but very conservative - skirts and meeting in homes being my only clues. But that said - normally any conservative "religion" also does not approve of divorce no matter what - save adultery. And I have heard that some conservative "reconstructionist" groups do not even support divorce under those circumstances either - sounds like the wife is playing some games. Very sad, and I'm sorry for you folks, too. Divorce hurts everyone.
take your bible thumping to the religion board.
Another good example of a CARNAL "Christian" calling people pathetic and nauseating, a fine example of "love thy neighbor as thyself." LOL
Didn't say you couldn't talk about religion
She just said to take it to the Christianity Boards and keep it off the Gab Board. I had no problem with it, but the we're not in charge, the modertor/adminstrator is.
Haven't you heard? Freedom of religion isn't for...SM
Christians. It's for everyone else. Sure a Muslim can pray in this country anytime they want, heck you can worship satan himself or practice witchcraft, but a be a Christian and actually admit you are one, let alone pray or read your Bible in public... come on, are you serious? You know every Christian has a secret agenda. We're just proselytizing little brainwashed fools. We're not just praying quietly to ourselves -- we are praying God will send a lightening bolt and strike all the unbelievers. We Christians aren't just placing our Bibles on our desks to read during our breaks -- we HOPE to beat someone over the head with it at some point during the day.
Freedom of religion has been twisted by the liberal spin doctors. It only applies to to those who think like them.... ironic isn't it?
"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them." -- Lenny Bruce
Also try reading about comparative religion and myth - sm
I recommend The Power of Myth (book and series of specials on PBS) with Joseph Campbell. Interesting stuff. The search for the meaning of life is world-wide and Christianity is certainly not the only belief system out there, nor organized religion in general for that matter!
Maybe if you start a fire in your
fireplace, your swamp cooler will be more effective!
Either that or get a dehumidifier.
I hate humidity also, and here I am in NC. Would you believe that when people are sick they sometimes run HUMIDIFIERS HERE?? Makes no sense to me when they could just step outside most of the time, and we have enough fungus amongus, LOL.
Big fire pit with table
and snowshoes.
Where there is smoke, there is fire...
Someone said consider the source. So let's consider the source...
You don't know her and she doesn't know you. Why would she seek you out to lie to you?
Apparently your husband does know her and was going to warn you beforehand that she might try to stir up trouble. Why would she pick your marriage to stir up trouble in? What bone of contention does she have with your husband? What is his relationship with her?
And if there is nothing to what she says as your husband suggests and that she is just trying to "stir up trouble" then why did he feel he needed to warn you?
Sounds to me like he's covering his bases. Personally, I think you husband has a lot of explaining to do and this advice of "keep quiet and take notes" is bunk. Don't be the victim. Listen to what your gut is telling you. Something smells in your situation and I bet it's coming from hubbie.
Trust me when I say, men can look their wives in the eye and lie without batting an eye and when caught in a lie, they will practically hurt themselves trying to rationalize and justify. Whatever is going on with your husband, you cannot deny that there are rumors out there that your husband feels he needs to squelch. That's troublesome by itself. Why would someone make up rumors about him?
Don't excuse him, don't treat him with kid gloves. Confront him and find the truth. You'll know it when you hear it.
He can light my fire! ;)
The Australian guy that sang the Doors song 'Light My Fire' is GOOD-LOOKING. Doesn't hurt that he sounds good also ;)
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I don’t fire off the questions because
most physicians now just try to race through because having to make that quota. But back to him asking you to have a sleep study, first of all you can refuse to have any test done you don’t want to have done. I refuse to weigh in my doctor's office. That is not really information basically needed (unless having anesthesia or dye injected for MRI say). Has any family member stated to you about excessive snoring, that being a reason you would need to have the study done. I did have a young niece to die from sleep apnea so in that case with loud, excessive snoring that you have heard about, then I would ask for it myself. I just turned down a nerve conduction study the other day. The neurologist said he oculd not treat; therefore why have it just then.
But chicking and dog fighting is illegal.....
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What part of illegal don't you understand? (sm)
You are talking about ancestors who came thru Ellis Island. They were screened for disease and such. Those healthy enough were let in the country legally. Those not were turned away. They weren't sneaking over the borders.
I don't believe anyone objects to legal immigration. Too bad too many Americans are too dense to distinguish the difference.
illegal. it's disgusting all around on so many levels.
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Illegal and all involved should be prosecuted.
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Mormon or other, illegal for old man to marry 14 y.o.
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