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If you're still fighting then you still care.

Posted By: Me on 2008-12-27
In Reply to: How do you know when enough is enough? sm - Lolabug

That's what I have been told multiple times. We aren't fighting anymore here. DH thought that meant we were happy, but I was feeling depression and apathy.


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You're lucky (or he's lucky) the parents care

I have 2 kids just down at the end of the block from me and their parents don't give a rat's behind what they're doing.  They're real smart alecks - ages 10 and 12 (?), both in elementary school.  Apparently, they're quite the bullies at school, too.  They like to mouth to any adults when they whiz by on their bikes.  Is it wrong that I'd love to take my kids' BB guns and shoot their tires out when they're doing this? 


Their mom doesn't care.  When we first moved into town this past fall (short-term thing while we're building in the country), I felt sorry for them.  They put on a good act.  After a few weeks of them coming to our house and pretending to want to play with the boys, we soon realized they were freeloaders -- wanted to eat everything in my fridge (without even asking first) and then wanted to play our computers or video games (without my kids).  I put the klinks on that real fast.  After that, they started treating my kids like crap.  I told my boys as long as they didn't do anything physical to just ignore them because they didn't care if they got in trouble and neither did their parents.  Their mom even had the balls to come looking for them 1 night after they didn't go home.  It was 9 o'clock at night and it got dark then around 7.  I couldn't believe it. 


Just a few weeks ago, the 2 perps beat another kid with a baseball bat at the ballfield.  The cops were at their house quite a bit, but I see they're back out on their bikes again wreaking havoc.  I can't wait till we move back out to the country!


girls fighting
sure did.  I can tell you how old they are, old enough to know better,  Speaks volumes about the parents is all I can say.  They should be tried as adults.  All are being held without bond until a hearing sometime today.  Hope they get what they deserve and the mother of the girl getting beat up needs to be filing civil suits as well.
He's fighting again today.

This time with his younger brother because he doesn't want to play a video game with him anymore.  His younger brother is almost 6 and he gets bored easily with video games.  Once again, when he got mad, he resorted to violence by kicking his younger brother in his side.  It left a red mark.  He's sitting on a chair as we speak.  I didn't give him a length of time, but I don't think 8 minutes is long enough for the stuff he's doing.  I told him what the consequences were when he did something like this, ie serious injury to his brother, possible juvy hall for him, and how it can lead to worse things as he gets older. 


He just doesn't get it.  I really wanted to fan his @ss, but what would that teach him?  Just that violence begets violence.  Why does he have to react so intensely?  Why can't he just get mad and get over it without hitting someone? 


My other 2 children don't react this way.  That's 1 of the points the child psychologist and I discussed specifically.  That if I were a bad parent, which I definitely think at times, then all 3 of my children would act out, but they don't.  Just him.  He's generally well-behaved for other adults.  He goes to the youth church camps and has no problems whatsoever.  He knows right from wrong, he just doesn't institute it.  It's so frustrating. 


I think it's time I found another child psychologist to take him to.  Maybe family counseling or something.  I know there's something wrong, but I can't figure out what it is.  I spend a lot of time with my kids.  All summer long, I've gotten up early to work so I could spend the days with them, swimming, biking, etc.  We do a lot together as a family and the 2 older ones get to go a lot of places with other people.  My children are not neglected in any way.  My husband spends a lot of time in the evenings with them, especially the 8-year-old.  We know that he demands more attention and we try to give that to him, but this is getting exhausting. 


I know everyone here has been trying to help and I appreciate that.  More than anything, I just need a place to vent.  I think it's time, though, to see a counselor again.  I'm also going to look into alternative medicine, ie nonaggressive diets.  Maybe there is something to that.  It seems to be true in animals.  Again, thanks for letting me vent and offering up suggestions or insight.  I do appreciate it.


Mom with fighting son, please see reply below nm
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fighting family too

I come from one of those families too...holiday wasn't complete if the police didn't come or EMS...when I met my husband and went to a family function with him I did not know how to act.  I kept waiting for something to happen but nothing did, they are close, they love one another and enjoy being together.  Needless to say we stopped going to family functions on my side and my own children do not know what its like to have one of those holidays and hopefully never will.  


 


I come from one of those fighting families.
There have been many, but the defining event would have to be at my father's viewing when his own brother started a fight in front of the open casket. If it were a screenplay, it would have to be a comedy, because the reality of it was too painful to endure. Needless to say, I don't deal with my family unless I have to. I've had too many holidays ruined over the years, and when my children were small, I realized that their holidays would be ruined, as well, if I kept returning to these toxic family gatherings. Now we do things on our own, and life is much nicer. We don't have the Norman Rockwell gatherings of 20 or so people, but that's ok. Maybe some day when I'm a grandmother and great-grandmother, our healthy family will have grown to Norman Rockwell size, and then we'll have a family group that wants to spend time with each other. That is so much better than dreading family gatherings!
There is virtually no fighting. (sm)
I don't hate him. But the opposite of love is indifference, and that's his diagnosis of me. I have to agree. He doesn't have a cure for that. He only does couples counseling if solving all the issues would make me satisfied. But if DH changes all the things I list, he'd just be the right husband for somebody else. That's my problem.
I don't care about your things, and can't imagine anyone would care about mine.
Whether it's my eating quirks or my sexual preferences, I have no need to divulge that stuff here.
It's NOT that interesting (mine OR yours!) and nobody cares.
But chicking and dog fighting is illegal.....
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Girls in Florida fighting
Did anyone see that sickening video of those teen girls beating up another girl while two boys stood guard outside the house?  I think they should be tried as adults including the boys (not sure how old they are anyway). 
girls fighting....and did you see the interview?
the one where Matt Lauer interviews the mother of one of the attackers?? She painted her daughter out to be a saint, how her daughter warned the victim not to go in the house. Matt asked her why her daughter was there for 30 minutes yet didn't call police. She didn't have an answer for that one. And she also said that the victim should get part of the blame because she was trash talking on myspace about the girls.

I say try them as adults too. One of the lookouts was an 18 yo boy.

I worry about my 11 yo son. What kind of world will he be living in??
Rooster fighting is illegal in CA, yet there is a place (sm)
I can see from the freeway that is acres upon acres of little tent-shaped coops that house chained-up fighting roosters. It's been there for 30 year - and I can't figure out WHY.
um, what about deceased hubby family and $millions she was fighting for?
nm
what about dead hubby's millions, fighting her stepson for
she's been fighting to get millions from her dead hubby estate, fighting the son-in-law. Howard is her attorney for that, which has been going on for years. That family has motive.
You're not 'low-class', you're FUNNY, & a good writer!
Which is often the case then someone is the first to cast stones!
You're surprised? I'm not. They're not going to stop voting....
as was mentioned in a prior post. Imagine if they succeed? They just may.
At least you wait until they're cooked! LOL...we're raw dough
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Sounds like you're doing great! We're also making out...sm
daughter pay for gas and insurance when she starts driving. She hasn't started driving yet because she doesn't want to get a job to pay for that privilege. That's her choice. We're also making her pay 1/2 of the fees for the state required driver's education course.
got that right!! If u don't take care of your man....nm
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Somebody already took care of that


I don't really care if you believe me or not.
Whoever stated above that the mother must be a decent person because she raised Daniel for the first 6 years of his life is stating something that is not true. I am just saying that you cannot base her character on that because it is not true, period.

You can believe what you want. I don't care. I don't have reason to come here and make this up, but I know who Daniel was raised by and a lot more than that. The grandmother did not raise him though. A very loving person who I am very close with and who has been in my life as a second mother to me raised him. The grandmother deserves no credit for that.

Trust me, there are a lot more people who this has hurt and affected than just those you see on TV.
Don't really care for any of them that much
And I used to be an AI addict! Now not so much. : (
I just got it right on #4, could care less what others think
NM
Oh, now that would just take care of everything..
Not. I would be just as scared seeing something behind me, if only a glance, as in front or the side. My husband is much more respectable than most because he lets me know prior to entering the door.
Of course I care....
It's called human nature to care about another person who is suffering. And the people who are obsessed with her private life, like yourself, are more than likely a big part of the reason for her suffering. It's just so sad that you felt the need to berate the care she is receiving. You would want the same care for yourself. And with the way she's treated every time she steps foot outside her home, I would think she deserves to have all the privacy that her money can afford. And you can bet it's her own money paying for it, so why do you care if she gets any special attention because the general public won't leave her alone? Shame on you!
You know, I don’t care what you or others do
and I think most here are just seeing what others opinions are, not that they use your suggestions but asking if others have similar things going on. I think you can do what you want at any age; having said that I also find it silly when a really older woman tries to be as young as her grandchildren. I don’t listen to loud music because personally I want to keep my hearing intact and it bothers me now (think it did when in my 20s also, just don’t care for it, ever). Play your games, wear your hair long, blast your music, it is your life. I don’t tell others how to live their life and others don’t tell me. I think most here only asking opinions.
How I took care of this...
…Ok, the housekeeper lives with a sister and they both oversee the care of a retarded lady who is blind, unable to speak, cannot take care of herself- that might be a place the panties could have been used- this person would not know nor care. I brought the housekeeper over tonight and asked her to "look" for my panties as I knew where I put them. She denied taking them, but never would look me in my face, keeping her eyes down to the floor. I am no longer going to use her services- by the way she is most always calling me asking can she come to work, not me as she has never had a real job in the work force, used to live on welfare and food stamps before that went out so making 60-70$ (or if she did more would pay up to 100 or so for her time here) was ok with her. She spent no money driving here, riding public transportation here- I always went to get her which if you look at money wise, it comes out to more than what I actually paid her. The bottom line is my husband has told me for some time things were missing but now I have seen for myself. I want to be able to trust people who are in my home.
when they are old enough to take care of them on their own...

I wasn't allowed to get my ears pierced until I was old enough to take care of it myself...I think about 10 or so?  So I would think whenever he's old enough to take care of it himself, that would be the age. 


Sheesh.  From reading some of the posts here, you would think he was wanting a tatoo of the devil...it's not like he couldn't take those earrings out later if he decided he didn't want them!!!! 


You need to take care of your
bills first and not worry about giving gifts. Explain to your family that you will not be giving gifts this year and you expect nothing in return. They may not like it but they will get over it. If they ask questions about what you do with your money (which really is none of their business)just answer them with the economy being so bad you are unable to give gifts. I would hope they understand as everybody is going through it right now. You may feel uncomfortable, but at least you will be able to sleep and not worry whether your bills will be paid or not. Stand firm on this and DO NOT feel guilty as there is no reason to be.

I have also chosen not to exchange gifts this year as I cannot do it. I was surprised that my brother was relieved. Everybody is feeling the crunch.

I wish you much luck!
Do you care....
Which way the TP goes on the roller? I don't but I know some who freak out and have to change it if it's going in the wrong direction.

I don't care for the new way
It's too obvious who's going to get it when they call up a couple at a time.

Secretly, I was kind of hoping Nick Norman made it LOL
These can be taken care of
by injections, just zapping them away, heard not much pain at all, check with a dermatologist. I would not see a plastic surgeon, just give a call and ask. I would not think a cream would do the job.
I really don't care.
An eye for an eye. You correct someone else, so you should expect to be corrected. I only popped in here today to see what was going on. Oh, hey. Ya wanna know what? I can block this site on my own! And I can keep coming back no matter how many times I get kicked off the boards. There are unlimited free email accounts and dynamic IP addresses out there.
The best way to take care of this is
to grow a backbone and say no, cannot have company such and such a time. I do not have to give out any phony pretending not to be home, any thought up why I cannot have company, I just say nope.
Couldn't care less
I couldn't care less whether someone gives me good wishes for Christmas, Kwanzaa, Hanukkah, Winter Solstice, or just a generic "happy holidays." I also don't care what any store decides to name their holiday decorations or sales after.

From a purely economic standpoint, it does make sense for businesses to combine holidays when they occur near each other. If they advertise only "Christmas" items, then it potentially excludes anyone who does not celebrate that holiday. The same goes for Kwanzaa, Hanukkah, etc. To market to the largest number of people, a general "holiday sale" works because each person can take from that what they want. For Christians "the holidays" in December means Christmas. For Jews it means Hanukkah. For pagans it means "Winter Solstice" (which, by the way, is where many Christmas traditions originated from, including the "Christmas" tree, but that's another story for another time).

I guess my point is that I personally feel some people make too big a deal out of things like this. There are far more important things in this world to focus one's attention on than what a store wants to call its sales.
Well, you should care. Clearly, you are not God filled otherwise
you wouldn't have such negative, uncaring thinking about Christmas and not merely assume that it's all about commercialism. 
I agree with you, and don't care who it is...!
Even my family doesn't drop by without calling first and I would not do it to them. We were brought up to be polite and courteous. Unfortunately not everyone is.
The police have enough to take care of besides
a person calling them if they got a card from an unknown person?? That is not what the police are for, them out investigating a birthday card and someone else is being robbed, assulted or whatever.. My goodness, think about your answer before you do post. The person on the post seems to be a caring person. If you have emergency, then the police should be called!!
I don't care if they belch,
yawn, cough, or fart, as long as they don't KEEP TALKING while doing it! ARRGGHHH!
Acute Care?

Hi there,


I was wondering if someone could help me.  I've been researching courses in medical transcription, and I have seen quite a few times a reference to "acute care reports".  I was hoping someone could explain what that was.  Thanks!


I also don't care if they are young
and committing such a horrible crime on someone else who is more vulnerable.

The excuses run out eventually. If they give the excuse that THEY were molested as children then they absolutely KNOW that what they are doing to someone else is COMPLETELY wrong. No sympathy. Not one teeny tiny little bit.
No. I don't care what others say, I make my own
nm
Why did you get a dog when you cannot pay for health care
plo
Went to podiatrist, got it taken care of and
so painful but was assured that if I ever had another 1 it would not be on the same foot. That was about a year and a half ago and fine ever since.
Then you ARE able to pay for health care for her. You are not
o
The schools have enough to take care of
besides crap like this. Kids, source, name calling SO? You are grown, supposed to know better, do not stoop to their level by retaliation, nothing gained as hubs would say.
they don't care today, what with...

:(


RoC skin care
Anyone use RoC skin care?  If so, did it burn when you first began using it.  It does say that it may burn a bit when first starting out, so I only use it qod, but geeze, my face is warm feeling.  Think maybe it's partly my imagination, but just wondering if anyone else experienced this and if so, how long it lasted.  Thanks y'all!
Kids who really don’t care
I have posted here before so mine might sound similar and it is but my son decided, over money that he thought I should give him, to tell me "you got it all" when talking about money left in my fathers acct when he was killed in an accident. Now this is the kicker- my father gave my son and his family $60,000.00!! I think that is a chunk of change and instead of being grateful for that- then he says about what I get?? I raised him without the first dime from his father and he talked like that to me?? I said to hel… with that and quit even trying. He is in his 40s. If on my death bed, no one has to notify him and I REALLY, REALLY feel that way. Probably get blasted now for sorry for the way you feel but I do not have to take abuse from him or anyone else. My grandparents when all died did not leave me 1 red cent and just image him talking like that to me. I was the only living child, father had no living siblings, no wife and I should have had EVERYTHING my father left on this earth. How dare him.
You know, sometimes the people you think care
or love you, well this is how it goes. If I got this kind of reception, I can so cut a person(s) loose. If they don’t like the name of your baby- whose baby is it?? You can name it Moose if you want, no one elses business!!! I cannot for the life of me figure people out, your family and you get yelled at? I would call the police and ask that they check (if no one else able to do and respond back to you) and would keep my distance if I was being belittled by them.
I am so happy so many of you care.
I think bipolar is very possible, also jealousy is a big one. Her daughters, my wonderful nieces are grown women and wonderful parents. They have told me different times they know how she is, and they call each other before calling her to find out what mood she is in before they call. She has a very sharp sarcastic way about her when she is in a mood, and believe me, everyone around her pays. I have lived my whole life this way and have asked over and over why it has to be this way. I have tried so hard for so many years, only to be the one that is considered dirt in her eyes. When she needs something I am the first one she calls, and of course I did what she wanted to win her favor, which will never happen. I know it goes a lot deeper than that.