If the mom was so bad, why did ANS let her raise Daniel for the first 6-7 years of his life?
Posted By: gd1 on 2007-04-11
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I see by your birthdate that you weren't trying to raise a family during the Regan years -sm
We were lucky, my DH never lost his job, but the town we lived in had about a 75% foreclosure rate with vacant houses and most of the businesses closed down.
We ate a lot of Hamburger Helper, mac & cheese, Rice A Roni, and Top Ramen. My 3 kids got their clothes and shoes at thrift stores, I went without. DH went without. We would have qualified for food stamps, but the state couldn't afford to have a program. Oh, and after Regan failed to get the school lunch program dumped completely he wanted ketchup declared a vegetable.
There was no question of me working - first there were no jobs, and second anything I earned plus some would have gone to daycare. Doctor and dentist visits were just about nonexistent because we couldn't afford insurance.
After that hellish 8 years things slowly got better until W, and wow, it's like Deja Vu all over again! Ain't it great?
Not where I live, 30 years to life?
Most do not even get 30 years for a murder.
Me either...31 years now! Life's too short to be uncomfy!
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Siberian huskies have a life expectancy of 12-15 years.
One of my Siberians did die of a brain tumor recently at age 7. I do use Frontline here in NC. I am more suspicious of chemicals to treat lawns and gardens, however.
I have been living that life for the last 2 years. Very familiar story. SM
I have two kids at home and a baby on the way. My husband keeps gettign laid of jobs due to slow business Just got word that after Christmas he will be laid off again. As it is, we can barely afford to feed the family... so dont know what we will do come January when we lose his income.
There are no jobs for him to apply to. We do not qualify for unemployment for some reason....
And its not like we are lazy or bad people. All we do is work. I work 3 different jobs for 3 different MT companies. I wake up 2 hours before the kids go to school, work while they are in school, and even have to make up soem time at nigth when everyone is sleeping. That in addition to my husband's job... we can barely, and I mean barely make it...
Then I spend the rest of my free time cleaning the house, doing dishes, laundry, errands, bills, homework with the kids. Im pregnant and should be getting more rest. HA!! What a joke.
And I know all about the bank fees. We pay probably 100-200 a month in fees becuase when you live paycheck to paycheck it is just something that happens.. Sorry folks... Its not about being good a balancing your checkbook... not in these times. We have to play russian roulette with the monies sometimes.
My husband and myself do not have insurnace. I do now through Medicade because I am pregnant. We were hoping to drop the Medicaid when my husband's insurance kicked in... but he got laid off before that happened. My kids have CHIP, so that is good... But I am down to my last pair of contacts and I havent taken them out in 2 months because I do not have the extra 100 dollars to make an appt and then 50 for the contacts.
The school hits us up for $$$ every week for this, that, and the other thing... which all that does is take food off our plates. If one of my kids loses a shoe or needs a winter jacket, etc.... it puts us out.
Not to mention on top of all of that... My brother-in-law was in a car accident in a car he bought from my husband, but never took the time to put it in his name, and now it is back on us. We have 30 days to come up with 4000 dollars or my they take my husband's license away. Sounds crazy huh? Lawyers say they cannot do that... but they say they can...(the insurance company), but who has money to pay the lawyer for the help?? Not us.
I could go on and on and on and on and on and on.. LIke how it is Christmas, which is hard enough, but on Dec 31st it is my daughter's b-day and then just 3 weeks later it is my other daughter's birthday... How I am going to give them a nice birthday is beyond me...
Anyway, you are not alone!!!!! Of course I have never thought about suicide. That is not an option for me and I cant imagine ever would be...
If you think that way, you need some medication and therapy real quick!!!!!! Other than that, what is the worst that can happen? There has got to be help somewhere... food stamps??? I am going to look into them myself... I might have to skip on paying rent this month... and hope the landlord understands...
Come January 20th, I hope some good things start to happen and we can be on the road to a brighter future... but until then... we have to ride it out somehow. How, I dont know. I just take every day at a time...
And this morning, I cried during my first hour of typing... Typing through the tears.. so you are not alone there either.
I second that. Daniel Craig too!...
They are both my free pass...my DH's free pass is Sandra Bullock....
Stern had SOMETHING to do with Daniel and Anna's death. That's what I
believe anyway. I also don't think he loved that baby. He loved that baby's MONEY. I think Larry loved Anna and loves his daughter and I think he deserves the money to raise his daughter on, put her through college, etc. Stern got what he deserved. What a creep.
I completely believe Howard Stern is responsible for both Daniel
much for it just to be overdoses in two cases. I don't buy it.
Mike Rowe and Daniel Craig are on my "list" too!! LOL! nm
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I agree with you. During the hearing this morning, it was stated that Daniel did not like the Baham
They stated that Daniel considered California home. I wish they could both be buried in California and rest in peace together.
Hear about your perverted sex life along with the perverted 6 years nursing
heavens no. You act like you hold a title for the biggest tits, the longest nursing animal and the x-rated queen of sex, why would any of us on this board care- I am sure lots could give you a run for your money if you catch my drift. Only a person who is very dissatisfied with their sex life would want to boast about how perfect theirs is. You tell me a lot about what kind of life you actually live and it is rather pitiful. Sorry for your plight.
I have a life, a great life at that. I just happen to include my canine family
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She did NOT raise that boy the first 6 to 7
years of his life. That is a lie.
How much does she need to raise?
Did you raise them on your own
or is there someone else to share the blame? Kids don't spoil themselves.
I do not think it is appropriate for any man to raise
If the child is that bad, send her to counseling. Writing a report brings out all of the reasons the child has done the wrong. Unless she's breaking the law, man-handling is not on the top of my list of punishments! I disagree with your statements, and I disagree with blank rooms. I think talking things out and finding out the root of the problem is the answer, not spanking or punishments that require imprisonment. Obviously, the OP didn't feel the child had done that much wrong or the friend wouldn't have been allowed to spend the night. That's all I have to say on this issue, which is ridiculous in this day and age of molesters. Oh, and I was paddled on my bare bottom at age 10.... No, I wasn't too fond of men. This issue is no different than a wife beater or child molester.....
asking for raise
I would just make contact with the person in charge of raises, and present your case (not from a 'need' perspective, but from a deserve perspective). Just form it as a request and touch on your high points!!
raise
It justs seems like with the cost of everything going up. Also we get the best with working at home, but they do not pay vacation, benefits or anything else. Why woudl it kill them to give a raise.
would rather raise 5 girls than 1 boy..sm
When boys grow up and become men, their *toys* become MUCH more expensive than girls (think boats, cars, motorcycles, ATVs, planes, trains, etc.).
I had such success with my girl that I want more girls *lol*
Looking for best place to raise a kid
I like where I live...but after a week from H E double toothpicks last week, I really feel that a bit of distance between myself and any family members would be better. Long story short, you think your family will be there to help when you need it, but instead all you get is beaten down and end up feeling bad and having to deal with your crises by yourself anyway (it's the ONLY reason I moved back to this area a couple of years ago).
Currently, I live in the deep south and my city has an excellent !!! school system, but I know there are other good school systems out there. So, here are some of what I would like in addition to a good school system.
Near water and mountains (could be lake or ocean, or state park), easy access to public transportation (in case my car breaks down), a good YMCA or city recreation center.
I've been looking at a borough just north of Philly, a couple of small cities in Virginia, a city north of Denver, some areas in North Carolina. I would like to avoid the west coast unless it's somewhere in Washington State or Oregon. I've considered the Reno area, but I've never been there and I don't know what the schools are like.
Any ideas? Thanks! 
Anyone who never has to raise their voice to get (sm)
I have an 8 year old an almost 11 year old and my husband is gone a lot. They are basically good children, never get in trouble at school except occasionally for talking, don't really do anything malicious or mean. But sometimes the bicker incessantly with each other and many times I feel as if I have to tell them repeatedly to do something and finally have to get a mad voice before they listen -then their feelings are hurt because I raised my voice. Right now my son is crying because I told him he has to help clean the house before he can have friends over this morning (he is almost 11). On school days they don't want to help because they have been at school all day. On weekends they don't want to help because those are their only days off. I am making them help even though they don't want to, but why the tears? It makes me feel like a mean mom, but I can't do it all myself and don't feel I should have to. 
Did you see the part about how she was going to raise them?
She was bragging that she does not receive welfare, but then they have admitted that she receives food stamps and two of the older children get SSI for disabilities. But, she said her source of income to raise them would be her student loans!
I would raise some caine, she is not - sm
abiding by the rules. I would either (1) give her a warning and inform her that you will revoke car privileges for two weeks if she comes home late again (3x and you are out basically), and if she wants to go anywhere she needs to get herself there and back by the appointed time, or she won't be allowed to go anywhere, or (2) revoke them now since she has already broken the rules 2 x.
If I knew I was going to be late I had to call to let my parents know, they did not care that it was 12:30 a.m. and I was to be home by 1, I was to call no matter what. I think I only had to do that once, roads were icy, and was not about to speed home to be on time. They were fine with it. Considering I was 16/17 when I was a senior my parents were pretty lenient, as long as I told then were I was, who I was with, and be home by the appointed time, 10 on school nights, 12 or 1 on weekends depending on what I was doing, dates were midnight generally, special dances 1 a.m. except for the Prom, got to okay to be out all night for that one. I was close to being late a few times due to haveing too good a time on dates, so makes you wonder what your daughter is up to. Just because she is 18 it is not a magic number of being allowed to do whatever she wants. She is still in school and you are still her parent no matter how "responsible" she seems to be for her age. You cannot be her friend, you are her mother.
I would raise 5 boys to 1 girl!
Girls cost too much.
I did not raise a debate, criticize the OP, or anything
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Love Raise the Red Lantern
So few people enjoy foreign films - and I just love them. I want the Chinese, Indian, Japanese, European, Latin American - all of them. Hardly ever find a dud. I've seen every foreign film at Blockbuster at least once.
Have you watched the Red, White, and Blue triology by the French director? Can't think of his name right now, but all 3 films are simply superb and although each is separate, there is a common thread that he brings together at the end of the third movie.
Or they want to raise them so they can be killed in a senseless war!!
Not that I think it is good to kill fetuses either ... but why don't these people see their lack of logic!
And as far as the stem cells and embryos ... why don't they fight to stop allowing people to fertilize and freeze them to begin with (or more than they will surely use)?!!
Which are easier to raise -- boys or girls?
I was always told boys. I had 2 girls and uff-dah what a hormonal nightmare. Now I have a teenage boy and those hormones are at least as bad. Prolly worse.
let's raise the flag *ROFL*.....lucky you....
It figures! I just found out they're going to raise my
29% next month! (And I always pay on time and far more than the minimum.) Well forget all that! I'm going to take the money out of what's left in my bank account (SAME bank, only savings only earns a measly .03% interest!) pay off the Mastercard, and just close the d@mned thing. I've had it with Wall Street, I've had it with negligent banks, and I've had it with greedy credit card companies. They can all go under for all I care, I'm going to pay cash from now on, and just keep a checking account for the debit/ATM card. The economy, banking system, and stock market never have, and never WILL, work for the 'little guy'. We were fools to fall for all that hooey. Sure hope the IRS doesnt mind the IOU they're gonna get from me this year, cause what goes around, comes around.
its better to raise kids in a happy divorced home
No where either. My mother didn't raise any foolish kids. LOL nm
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Is it just me or does the fuel surcharge for speeders sound like another way to raise taxes? nm
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Daniel had a home, a very good home...
with someone in my family at one point.
She met her late husband at a club down the freeway from me. It's not a fancy place, like you say.
She does have a real brother though. That was the connection on our part.
I agree, though. It is sad that all this is coming out the way it is. I believe she was a good person...she just had a lot of problems, mainly drugs. What is really sad is that all of this is going to be seen by her daughter one day when she grows up.
My husband is 7.5 years younger. Been together almost 20 happy years...nm
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My feelings; people shacking up together for years and years
and then all of a sudden deciding to get married don't need a thing, obviously. A shower should not even be given. I lived with my now husband a while (nowadays who doesn't!) before we married and I also had been married before years ago but he was not....so of course HIS mom wanted a shower. I told her absolutely not unless it was just the immediate family, his mom, sisters, etc, more like a celebration/get together. And so that's what we did. Showers are tacky, period. Unless it's a couple of young kids getting married straight out of the house and that doesn't happen much anymore.
Been with a man 13 years older, now with a man 4 years younger.
Younger is better, at least in my case ;)
Sorry, meant 75 cents. Still, that was years and years ago.
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I studied to be a scopist years and years ago
Back in the early 1990s I took a course called Note reader Scopist. They read court reporter notes (those long skinny papers that looks like a cash receipt) and types them into documents. I had found the course through something called At Home Professions but just didn't finish it because it was too expensive for me. But I am familiar with them and even found my book from the first course I took. Looking back I think it would have been a blast if I had kept up with it.
It is definitely legitimate. A lot has changed since the early 90s, so I'm not too familiar with the industry now. I do remember what was really weird was it didn't take a lot for me to learn it. For instance I could look at a line of court notes and see something that looked like: NV p srn - and I seemed to know exactly what it said. Just weird. My DH used to say that I understood it because I was an alien and my ship crashed in Roswell. HA HA HA Anyway...that's what I know about it. But if you Google note reader scopist or at home professions i'm sure you could probably find a lot of info.
I have been vegetarian on/off for 35 years, was vegan for about 5 years sm
not that hard. Right now, I am having so many issues with food allergies and celiac disease, having to give up nightshade veggies...nothing left to eat. I am eating some meat now, but not when the gastroparesis sets in!
Being vegan is not hard...unless you are a celiac. This is how I figured out the celiac part because so many of the meat analogs and vegan packaged foods use gluten for the protein and I got really sick from it. I gave up all the premade things and the whole grains with gluten and I was fine.
There is vegan and then there is VE-GAN. By definition, vegans don't wear, use or consume anything that is derived of animals...no leather shoes, most shampoos and toothpastes are off the list, as are deodorants. No wool or silk. Anything with soap usually has animal byproducts. It is very involved and rather difficult to do.
Giving up meat, eggs and dairy is no big deal, except for cheese. You hear that ad about "comfort proteins" in a baby formula and there is such a thing. Mother's milk, be it human, cow, goat, whatever...contains a chemical that triggers the release of endorphins in the brain so that feeding feels good in more ways than one. The purpose of this is ensure that the nursed young want to nurse and thrive. Human milk has a lot of these, so does cow's milk and cow juice triggers the same reaction in the adult human brain. Cheese is concentrated milk and therefore these chemicals are also concentrated. As a result, cheese is an addictive substance. This is the hardest thing to give up when going vegan. Vegan cheese substitutes are nasty and they don't melt. If a dairy-free cheese melts, it contains casein, an animal protein and not vegan.
I studied this years and years and years ago
Most definitely is legitimate. In the late 1980s I studied to be a note reader scopist through a group called At Home Professions. I loved it, but unfortunately could not continue due to no funds. It was reading the court reporters notes which looked like a grocery receipt with a bunch of letters scattered on it. The weird thing was I found it extremely easy. For instance I would see a line that looked like: av e cr, and for some reason I would know what it said. My DH told me that's because I'm an alien and my ship landed in Roswell. HA HA. Well I know that a lot has changed, after all it's been over 20 years since I took the first course and know a lot of it is computerized now, but it is most definitely legitimate and I've heard people like to do it. I think I remember one of the courses was in medical terminology and another course was in legal terminology. Should be able to find a lot of it on google, or maybe go to your local college if they offer it and talk to an instructor.
This has happened for years and years, where have you been?
Frank Sinatra, Elvis, the Beatles, and on and on. This person is acting very normal like the age she is. You would have to have been under a rock to think differently, like this was an abnormal behavior....
Lost my mom 23 years ago and dad 18 years ago.
My son was not even 1 when my mom died....she was only 50. My dad died at age 59. So even though I feel your pain....I would have been very grateful to have them into their 80's. I guess we take what we get and be thankful. Sometimes it is hard though.
I was married for 13 years and 2 years
after my divorce I met the most incredible man. He was also divorced, we both have 2 kids, and though we are not married, we have been together for 9 years. They are still out there, you may have to go through a few marginal ones before you find him, but they are out there and available.
for the life of me..........sm
I mean this just does not make any sense. I had an adjuster come out who looked to be right out of high school, looked at our roof, said it had a LOT more years left on it. I went right to the phone, called my company, said to send someone out that knew something about a roof. I got 3 estimates from roof companies and an estimate to redo one of our bathrooms where it was leaking through. When I threatened to go public with how many roofs were put on homes and checks paid in the field, at the owner's home, standing in their yard, and knew this folks didn't need a roof, then they actually gave me enough to replace our roof. If I sound bitter, I am. This is ridiculous. I cannot help a hurricane blew through, but one could argue spilling bleach in one's floor is their fault, not nature. My mother has an old home, over 90 years old. She has done the best she can with what she has, but when they came out and told her that she would have to pay a deductible to fix part of her room, and then another deductible to fix another part of her roof, because both problems didin't come from the hurricane (like they know this for fact), I blew a fuse. I went ballistic on them. She did get a check in the field from an adjuster at first, but it wouldn't even cover removing the old roof, let alone replacing it with a new one. After the hurricane, she had leaking in several rooms in her home. I pitched a hissy fit. They then came back out and I got a roofer to meet with them, and she then got enough to actually replace the roof and supposedly to fix the ceilings in her house....though I don't think it would cover all that. I called our state insurance commissioner and let into him.....I told him I would expose the garbage going on. People 1 to 2weeks after the storm getting all kinds of paid repairs, but those of us who had to wait later on down the line for an adjuster, were being told they couldn't find a problem. No, the money started flowing out like a river, and then after a few weeks, they start telling their adjusters to tell anyone else they don't see a problem. Bull!
Her life was more...
than Stephen King and John Grisham together could have conjured up. Maybe Howard Stern was a plant in her life by the millionaire's family or maybe someone else close to her was planted by his family. I don't know, but it is the most sensational story I've ever heard in my life.
life
I knew her from when she worked on the North side near the airport. She had Daniel with her at the motel not far away. I was a waitress and we had a meeting for all the employees of a new club and she came and had Daniel with her and I had my son (now almost 19) with me and they played for a bit and she would come to my house on occasion with him.
To be totally honest when in the clubs people are introduced as "family" so I dont know if her "sister" was actually her "sister".
I was a different person back then and unlike her I was able to get away from all of that. I wish things had worked out differently for her and especially for Daniel he deserved so much more.
I hope for Daniellynn??sp?? that she has her mothers spirit and tenacity and her brothers sweetness so that she can see through all this and know that her mother and brother loved her very much.
too bad; it's not WHAT you know in life..nm
Get your own life!
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Just another day in the life of...
I just read on MSNBC that China executed the ex-head of the Food and Drug Agency for taking bribes to okay substandard drugs citing, "Such cases have brought shame to our administration and revealed serious problems in approving antibiotics blamed for, at least, 10 deaths and other substandard medications." I sometimes wonder how much this sort of thing is going on in the rest of the world??
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