If the &*%& government would let teachers...
Posted By: Hayseed on 2008-02-08
In Reply to: Sorry Hay, I honestly luv ya, but can't - trose
and heck, even students arm themselves, we wouldn't be sending lambs to the slaughter like that. They would've at least had a fighting chance. If I'm going to die, give me the chance to die while fighting to protect myself and others. Why should the criminals be the only ones who can arm themselves? This is a very heated topic 'round these parts where it seems they want to take our right to protect ourselves away at every corner.
Didn't one of our fellow MTs on this board here have a daughter who got into some serious doo-doo at her school for having pepper spray on her keychain? Explain to me how THAT makes sense to punish a kid, or parent, for wanting to give them a fighting chance and protecting themselves.
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I understand the feelings about some teachers and the views that they get a good deal for doing nothing. When my children were in school, they had good teachers and some just downright horrible teachers that should never be teaching children. I think it depends on where you live also. They grew up for the most part in Florida and the community we were in had great schools.
Because of my husband's job, we moved to an area where the schools were less than desireable, but my kids were in advanced placement classes, which meant they were getting a better deal. I did see how this local system was dumbing down kids because a lot of them just come from homes where parents just plain ole don't care. Many problems, and they TOO think it's all the teacher's fault if their kids aren't passing. Strange that they never feel it is their responsibility to see their child is passing, but then again, so many of them are used to getting freebies and everything given to them without working for it, it never phases them they are actually supposed to raise their own child and not the school system.
That being said, my daughter now teaches in that system and I have to say, she has made a difference that is amazing. The testing scores (which personally she hates all the standardized testing but is forced to do by your government) have gone up tremendously with her classes, the highest in the school. Yes, she DOES WORK MORE than 8 hours a day. She has to be there at 7 and can't leave until 4:30....last time I checked that was 9-1/2 hour days. She has to eat with her children, and any "break" she gets is spent tutoring children to catch up or doing endless paperwork for the No Child Left Behind garbage. Her children truly love her and it shows. She worries endlessly about them, knowing so many of them go home where the parents aren't there, they work nights shifts, the children are alone all night. They don't eat dinner..many of them have only one meal and that's the one at school. She takes food to school and sticks it in their backpacks to take home because their lazy parents could care less and many are not even there at night. Some go home on Friday and don't eat again until Monday at school.
Don't blame the teachers for low performance at school. Teachers cannot MAKE lousy parents into good caring parents, they can't make the parents stop bar hopping and slutty mothers stop bringing home a different man every night and the kids see this trash. Teachers can't make the parents see that the children do their homework. They're not allowed to tell the parents to grow up and raise their child and stop acting like children themselves. Some of the kids come back to the school after hours to sit with her in the classroom because they dread going home because no one is there and they are scared. No doubt, there are a few bad apples when it comes to teachers, but there are WORSE parents who are responsible for the lack of their child's performance in the school system.
No one could pay me enough to put up with the trash she has to put up with every day. And to boot, at this school she has a joke of a principal who DOES GET A BONUS, not the teachers. And where is this 4% raise every year. She isn't getting it. She does not get this glorious paycheck you refer to and during the summer, she is tutoring kids to keep them from failing their grades against all odds. She spends her own money and does without herself, to buy things for the children they should have but don't. I personally have bought shoes and things their parents should get off their butts and get their children. These mothers seem to be able to afford expensive hairdos and fingernails, but can't afford shoes for their kids? The fathers....well, who knows where in the h*** they're at.....producing more babies I'm sure. When parents grow up and realize their responsibility to their children, then maybe the school can get better. Teachers are not supposed to be their parents, but many feel they have to be.
of course, most teachers would give a different
story, just as most MTs will tell you that they don't make enough to survive or they are living near poverty, but that's not really true either. Most people would say the same thing about any profession they choose.
And I thought gym teachers were mean
when I was in school! Argh! I'd be furious too.
Teachers from Hogwarts?
A ghost and a ghost buster?
(I'm looking at a flier from a costume shop).
They have a $70 Davy Jones costume that's unbelievable.
They also have male and female Spartan cheerleader costumes. Does your hubby look anything like Will Ferrell? Those are each $30 though. They have a Dickk Cheney mask. If your DH has hunting clothes he'd be set. You could go as a gunshot victim.
(Mr. Cheney's first name is a dirty word on this board - how funny).
Remember teachers can
make all the difference in a child's ability to learn. If the teacher is not good at actually teaching (which many are not!), you might want to see if there is another teacher to choose from.
Honestly, I think teachers should
refer to students, no matter how old they are, by their first name, always.
Just to avoid misundertandings, like this one!
It was our government that got those
people into trouble. Most could not afford 200K houses and they should never have given them loans. Also the fact they were led to believe they could afford them. These are people who had nothing and just wanted the "good life".
Government has nothing to do with this particular
were 'banned'. This teacher isn't teaching 'strong political views'. She's just including her class in a positive experience. There's already far too much negativity taught in school, church, and at home.
But teachers often have to use own money to pay for supplies
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Most teachers have at least one planning period when they
can grade papers. If their job requires work-related hours away from school, they are given comp time.
underpaid teachers - what a joke!
I agree that teachers have all this extra work they have to do in their own time, but don't forget about all the paid time off they demanded; spring break, Christmas break, plus the fact that they get most of the summertime off with pay. I think that more than makes up for the extra time they have to put in while school is in session. I have a friend who is in the highest paying school district in Ohio and upon retirement, he and his wife will both be making 80K plus on their pensions. What's so god awful about that!!!!! Winning 10K may not be so great either by the time they pay taxes on it and add it to their income, possibly kicking them into a higher tax bracket. That can be considered a good or bad winning.
Yes, compliments and gifts are the better way, especially with teachers!..
Also, I think your child will not want that you pick a fight with his/her teacher.
Some very dedicated teachers and low paid...
like firemen, police, military who risk their lives for really low pay unlike people with extreme salaries like sports or movie stars.
This is just another example of the government interfering where
they should not be. We women, as adults, know what is RIGHT for US. They do not. They should have no say whatsoever in this. It is called a CHOICE! As American citizens we should have freedome of choice!
It's OUR place to tell our government that
Don't forget, the government is supposed to be owned by us, US citizens. They have gotten so giddy with power, they have forgotten that. Why else do they write their own paychecks, given themselves raises, and can continue to draw HUGE incomes after they leave office for the rest of their lives, including HUGE incomes for their wives long after they are dead, free healthcare, all the perks. These are public officials. Once they are out of office, they're on their own. We have let them take control of OUR government. It's up to us to take it back. You have a phone, e-mail, petitions.......you get the message across to them. Don't wait for others to do it for you.
That is why they are here... Mexican government wants them out
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there are MANY ways our government
and I believe there are many people angry about the money spent on this war.
Dear Government
Please pass a law to stop offshoring so I can have my job back!
My sister and her husband are both teachers in Atlanta and -
The word is that many teachers will pass kids out of their current grade just to get rid of them. They tell me the biggest fear of the teachers is to have to teach the same problem child twice! They also say that some parents INSIST that their child be passed no matter what. So sad because it is the children who suffer!
Not many teachers just "work" during the hours school is in
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Agree. Teachers of future generations should be better
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I agree completely....government once again
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The big deal is your federal government....
You're absolutely right. They have some identifiable information on file about citizens, so why would they need to change anything and put more restrictions in place? I'm more confused as to why US citizens don't ask why? If they've got everything on us, then what could possibly be the reason to do this?
That should be the worst crisis in government!
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The government could manufacture and sell
universial health care a hundred times over. Problem solved.
The government will pay for birth control..
go to a planned parenthood. Very very cheap. There really is no excuse for 7 kids and no job for either parent. Join the military, get a job, like you said, at Wendy's or Wal-Mart or something. I am not against a hand up, but I am very much against a hand out.
It is NOT the teachers place to tell a child that Santa doesn't
yeah I just might sue as well!
Maybe then the government should ban Coca Cola and Pepsi from
producing their product, for as we all know, sugar causes teeth decay. And how about caffeine. Look at all the deliterious efforts that are a result of ingesting that! And how about alcohol. Maybe the government could shut down all restaurant and liquor stores and set us back to the days of prohibition, when, even though imany highly intelligent people STILL found a way to produce it to drink it to excess or not. Tobacco -- we all know it's not good for use, by Phillip Morris, et all still keeps cropping the tobacco field, and being taxed by the government. If anything, that is a perfect example of why the government should make it illegal to sell tobacco, but they dont, because the taxes they place on it are astronimal and keep all the workers "for the people" with cash in their pockets...The point is our freedom of choice is being decided by those other than ourselves, and with that, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY DISAGREE.
OnStar is your choice......not government imposed
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She was grateful, but our government sucks 'WAY too
Also, since a bonus is really a GIFT from the company, I think it should fall under "gift" status with the IRS, and not be subject to taxes, either.
I feel sorry for people who live off the government
I have raised 2 kids that did not have to do without and on my own. I was a divorced woman and did not, thank goodness, have to rely on anyone or anything else. I am much stronger than that.
It's named Gardasil. Unless it is government or state funded.....(sm)
I can not see too many parents jumping at this opportunity. It is a noncovered service by all insurances. It is given in a series of 3 separate injections. The current recommendation is to be given to young girls between the ages of 10 to 12. So if a parent decides to vaccinate her little girl against this, I guess the "bird and the bees talk" will have to be undertaken before the little girl asks "Why I am going to the doctor to get a shot, and what is it for? (given the very natural inquistive nature of children on all subjects.)
No smoking in public places, must wear seat belt in car, must wear bicycle helmet, and some states helmet required when riding motorcycles, restaurants not using transfats in their cooking,.....WHEN WILL ALL THESE NON-SELF INFLICTED RESTRICTIONS STOP????????...IS THIS STILL AMERICA??
I am a Libertarian and pretty fanatical about "Big Government"
This whole thing is a tempest in a teapot. The government ALREADY HAS this information. WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL??
If you look in the Government pages in your local phone book. sm
If you look in the government pages of your local phone book, you will find numbers for their DC office and their local offices if they have one. You can also call the White House. That number you have to call information for. You could even get the numbers online. THe area code for Washington, DC is 202.
For me it is not about gay/straight - it is about government taking too much control of our children
That is a really sore subject with me!! I want everyone to live their lives and teach their children as they see fit. As far as the gay/straight issue, I have taught my children who are 8 and 11 about homosexuality, about people being different, acceptance, not to be judgemental. I just have an issue when public school teachers want to use the school as a public forum for whatever reason. In school I remember a teacher who had strong political views and she taught us daily her way of thinking. I don't think that is fair. I think certain things should be reserved for parents to teach their children.
Make a fuss to school board, principal, teachers, dept. of child welfare (sm)
whoever you need to. I understand these are difficult to get rid of but obviously the mom of that little girl is not getting rid of them, maybe she treats the child but if you don't clean up the environment reinfestation is a sure thing.
We got a letter from the school yesterday stating there is a lice outbreak in the school. Then we had a program last night in which all the 3rd graders put on these little capes (that came out of a community bag where they had used them before at practice and then bagged them back up) They of course went over their heads and rested on their shoulders. I wasn't the only person that sucked in air when they saw this last night.
I am sure that poor child is and will be embarrassed about this and probably other things in the future if her health/hygiene issues are not being taken care of properly.
O talks about our government being fiscally responsible and his wife is wearing $500 designer shoes.
It's not "her money to spend as she pleases." It's my money, your money, his money, her money. O better put up or shut up and that means his family too. No more big talk about the deficit, fiscal responsbility, and redistribution of wealth when when his wife is walking around in designer duds. Am I the only person that sees hypocrisy in that?
Yes, they do. 10-month teachers make more than 9-month
teachers. I know that for a fact. One of my sisters was a 9-month, one is a 10-month. They are compensated for working more scheduled hours.
My teachers did this from 1st grade through 12th grade. nm
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