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If that's not a case for welfare reform, I don't know what is - sm

Posted By: ChiaPet on 2009-05-07
In Reply to: need to vent -- are you kidding me ?!? - XanaX

Wouldn't it make sense for us (as taxpayers) to say: We understand occasionally people have hardships and need food stamps and other help; however, while you are receiving assistance, you must have Norplant (or something that can't be accidentally forgotten) so that you cannot have another child while receiving it? Otherwise we are simply perpetuating the welfare state by enabling unemployed people to have as many kids as they can, and rewarding them to do so.


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Why would you want to reform a snob?
I have enough in my life just to take care of my business. I do not take care of anyone else. I also hear about economic enviroment but some people are not suffering as much as others. I reallly think the economy is picking up (out shopping yesterday and so many more people than I saw right before Christmas) and the light might be at the end of the tunnel now.
Credit Card Reform Can Cost Good Card Users

Part of article:

Credit cards have long been a very good deal for people who pay their bills on time and in full. Even as card companies imposed punitive fees and penalties on those late with their payments, the best customers racked up cash-back rewards, frequent-flier miles and other perks in recent years.


Now Congress is moving to limit the penalties on riskier borrowers, who have become a prime source of billions of dollars in fee revenue for the industry. And to make up for lost income, the card companies are going after those people with sterling credit.

We pay off our balance every month. If they do this (punish those who have sterling credit) Ridiculous!! I'll stop using my CC and pay by cash or check.

So much for reform.


Welfare

How do I feel about welfare? 


1.  I believe in what the Bible says about if a man asks for you coat, give him you cloak also.  My church teaches that we give if asked, and we have done what we are suppose to.  If they were underserving, then that is on them. 


2.  Don't judge.  When my husband and I divorced, I was raising 3 children, working, and going to college to learn to be a MT.  I could barely pay the rent.  The ONLY thing I did not have to worry about was food, because I received food stamps.  I HATED it.  I saw people roll their eyes when I got out my food stamps.  I cried all the way home.  On my birthday, my best friend told me my birthday gift was having my nails done (something I had never done).  I went with her when she had her nails done and thought it was such a luxary.  Well, she took me to get my nails done for my birthday, and someone from my church saw me there.  That person went to my pastor and said they would never help anyone in the church again, because if I could afford to get my nails done, the I did not need help.  Not only was I embarrassed about the situation, but I was hurt that someone had judged me.


3.  Be grateful you don't have to use food stamps.  When I finished school, I was elated after I got a good job and did not have to use food stamps.  When I saw someone having to count out their food stamps in front of me, I was sad for them but glad that they got some help.  I also would busy myself so as to not embarrass them.


Yes, some people abuse the system, but I would rather 10 people abuse the system than 1 person and/or family go hungry.


This is just my opinion.  Please do not bash me.  You can't say anything I have not heard before, believe me.


How do you know she will be on welfare? (nm)
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maybe she collects welfare and does not tell you.
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This goes toward the conversation on welfare below

Remember that conversation about single moms, welfare and foodstamps?


I was reading an article on MSNBC today.  This man ended up in just the situation I was talking about.  Read the whole article.  Pay attention to the fact that it mentions medical bills and reverse mortgages.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29198366/


Has it been reported they are all on welfare, medicaid, etc??
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Thank you. Single moms on welfare are not all bad ones.
Women on here who say they have SOOOOO much saved for retirement and then talk about drawing social security burn my behind. It wasn't intended for the well-off to draw in the first place and probably will be gone by the time most of us get old enough to draw it.

This person is obviously overwhelmed with greed, wouldn't you say? In this day and age, with the greedy falling left and right, this one apparently doesn't understand that greedy behavior is no longer PC.
Matrimonial (or shackup) welfare then..I see!
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Well, the former welfare recipient has her millions now & feels
regardless if it adversely affects children.  She knows full well that her books are read by children.  Since she has opted to make such a poor decision, I am opting to make a good decision and no longer purchase her books, watch her movies, or buy any products related to her books as she gets a cut on everything.  It's one thing to have a personal opinion about homosexuality, but she didn't have to publicly link it to a character in her books.
Are you sister of poster with tax-welfare issues?
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How do you feel about Food Stamps/Welfare?

In the way home from school last night, I had to run into the Ameristop to get a gallon of Orange Juice.


Well, as I was pulling in, this lady (about 25) was walking in, sort of rough looking girl.


Well, she was ahead of me in line then and she got her food stamps out, and typically this kind of thing makes me upset. Because, you could see physically anyway, there was nothing wrong with her.


But, maybe there was....... or maybe she lost her job, and is trying to manage. Not that I was being nosey or anything, but there she had 2 Gallons of Milk, Sausage and Biscuit Dough. So, maybe she was trying to get breakfast for her family in the morning. So now all of a sudden I feel guilty.


But, if we weren't in these hard economic times where jobs were scarce, I typically wouldnt be as understanding, because I do feel Welfare is Abused.

What about you?

THEN, another thing......... maybe you will know, Sometimes you see Welfare people ahead of you in line at the grocery store or something, and they ALWAYS have "Name-brand" in their cart. Never Store Brand. Well I shouldnt say Never, but it always seems like your name brands.


Does Welfare require them to get Name Brand?


I DID NOT DRAW WELFARE. I got food stamps
only for a very short time.  I was also a taxpayer then and had been for a number of years before and still continue to be.  Why don't you come down off your high horse and realize that sometimes people need help.  I hope that you and Amy never become disabled and have to rely on government services to help you. 
A single mother by choice does not make them a welfare
recipient and/or a bad person. Heck, I would be more inclined to put that person as unselfish and determined. You chose the easy way out, the single mother took on her commitment and took the responsibility.
i care about child abuse, welfare fraud, and
dumping of young males to the streets, so they lessen the competition for the multi-wife thing. This is all well-documented. This is not about just polygamy -- which is also against the law, but its the abuse of children and abuse of our welfare system -- all under the banner of religion. If it was just about men taking multiple ADULT wives, the government would not likely have stepped in to even enforce that law.
"The parents", the "older man". The welfare of child
tfd
Abuse of food stamps/welfare is a MAJOR
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Make a fuss to school board, principal, teachers, dept. of child welfare (sm)
whoever you need to. I understand these are difficult to get rid of but obviously the mom of that little girl is not getting rid of them, maybe she treats the child but if you don't clean up the environment reinfestation is a sure thing.

We got a letter from the school yesterday stating there is a lice outbreak in the school. Then we had a program last night in which all the 3rd graders put on these little capes (that came out of a community bag where they had used them before at practice and then bagged them back up) They of course went over their heads and rested on their shoulders. I wasn't the only person that sucked in air when they saw this last night.

I am sure that poor child is and will be embarrassed about this and probably other things in the future if her health/hygiene issues are not being taken care of properly.


I am sure this is not always the case, but
I have had the cashier call me over if there was no one in her line even though I told her I had more than 10 items. She said she hates not having anything to do...Of course, as soon as I am finished loading my stuff here comes someone with 2 things in their hand! :-)
I don't believe this is the case.

Come with your opinions of spooning out meds.  Yoga is a great way to channel stress, but sometimes an SSRI for the long term is better.  As most of us know, if you don't have time to exercise, you will probably not do Yoga either. 


I have come the conclusion that older people are not as understanding of what SSRIs are used to treat.  You are not weak because you have anxiety and/or depression.  Most of the older generation think this is just being lazy.


I'm living proof it is not being lazy, it is an actual condition.  Don't make my mistake and wait until you crash and burn.  I'm still recovering from a severe anxiety attack that occurred almost a year ago.  My mind still raises at night.  My severe anxiety attack was due to a few different stressful situations all occurring at one time.  My brain/body could not tolerate all of that stress.  This field does not allow much in the way of vacations, but knowing what I know now, I take the vacations and DO NOT TAKE THE WORK WITH YOU WHEN YOU GO. 


Believe me, it will be there when you return.  I am still struggling with time off, but I have decided to take two days out of the week where I do not feel the need to WORK! 


Try this OP in addition to seeing your doctor.  Take some time off every week!  You will be amazed how much better you feel.


I want to believe that would be the case (sm)
I really want to believe that would be the case. If I can just get him to cooperate - I would love to be able to be friends with him and raise our children the best we possibly can.
In that case
when you send out invites to anything, I think you should stipulate no gifts. No gifts, no thank you cards. I think not sending a thank you note is just bad manners, no upbringing. I give money to charities and expect no response but an invite and getting gifts, only nice way to handle this.
If that is the case, I think what I have is really
better. If it runs off batteries, can it whisper sweet nothings in your ear, does it give you strokes, talk dirty to you at the appropriate times, etc? If this is no, think I will just stay with my best half.
Unfortunately that is not the case here.
With a family this size there have been a few losses. No one extremely young, but still losses. Like I said they lost her husband about 20 years ago and while there was definite grieving it was not like this at all and his death was very unexpected.
no not the case...
When it is just her and her mom she always calls. She says mom is driving me up the wall today or something to that nature. She loves her mom to death but sometimes they clash. She always talks when her mom is home. I am not JEALOUS. I am concerned because this is not her and I don't understand it. I am looking for opinions on postpartum depression, which if she does have it nothing I can do anyway. All I can do is send her a card and let her know I am there. But I have never seen anyone behave this way after giving birth. I guess there is a first for everything.
In my case, it does.
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in my case
Da#m husband. HA HA HA
Even if that's the case and they do in sm
fact get paid minimum wage (keep in mind, some make less and are expected to supplement with tips), $7.75 is still not an adequate amount added to the cheap $2 tip to make it worth the gas, insurance and wear and tear on one's car.  I stick to my OPINION that $2 is insulting.
In my case,
I'm the one who strayed. It's all my fault, because I married a man who I felt safe with instead of working through childhood traumas before trying to get married. So now I've been married forever and this near-perfect match came along, except for an impossible age difference. It honestly felt like I could not stop myself, though I never thought this would happen to me. The physical part lasted 6 weeks, and the infatuation lasted 6 months before that. I think this one person was unique, but without a good sex life at home, I'm certainly vulnerable to temptation in future. I did not and would not have ended it because I was ecstatically happy.

My husband is a good man, but I think I should divorce him to be fair, but financially it would be a disaster for both of us. Plus he doesn't want to split. All my friends' marriages are at the breaking point also.
Oh, in that case
I don't think I would call. I'd just leave it alone.

That just stinks if he doesn't hear anything though. They should atleast call him back and let him know. I hate when people say "I'll get back to you on Monday" and then don't. If that is the case, he might be better off not working for this guy. Or, you could think of it another way...maybe they are conflictd between 2 applicants and still trying to decide. They should atleast call him back though. That's what the secretary is for! lol
But in this case ...
My dog didn't want anything to do with the technician. If he came in the room, my dog growled and kept backing away from him. I will admit it was kinda neat looking to see the hair standing up on his back.
more on above - as I said in my case - sm
I do trust him BUT I would still wonder....in my case my DH did cheat on his first wife 2-3 x (I'm his 2nd wife--he did not cheat with with me, I did not even know him then, met him 3 years after his divorce) despite his paranoia of STDs, pregnancy, etc, though he was adament about using condoms so that kind of took care of his paranoia I guess. A few months ago my DH all of a sudden wanted me to buy condoms (we don't use a standard BC). I thought it rather odd since we have not used condoms since before the kids were born. I have just kept my eye on them and made sure the numbers have not changed as he has only used 2 of them since I bought them. He travels from time to time so has many the opp to cheat if he really wanted to (he's been out of town now for a month, home on the weekends). So while I trust him I am not blindly accepting that he will not cheat. He knows though if he ever did (and I caught him) I would divorce him over it and make sure I got full custody of the kids to boot, so I think that helps, that and I know he does love me still after 14 years together. So just keep the eyes and ears peeled and look for anything out of the norm. Good luck.
Jan. (in case you are the same jan)

Isn't Gy a unit of measure?


In this case, my DH had been her only - sm
sexual partner ever, and she his at that point. They were high school sweethearts, etc., married when he was 20, she was 19.
Just in case you want to know
I was at the animal shelter 1 day and a man brought in a dog, said it belonged to his son but his son left and the guy could not afford to feed the dog. He was asked if he had ever fed the dog since left there and the answer was yes. The people then informed the man he was legally responsible for the animal and he could be and would be held legally responsible for the dog. As far as their dog being in heat, your dog apparently has not been neutered or else even in heat they could not have mated, right? You have responsibility as a dog owner, also.
Maybe your way is the better way. But every case is different.
I could never ask my children for money. I suppose this is wrong, too.
I just cannot take their money for which they work so hard.
Last not least, I am the mother and them becoming 18 does not change much in the relation.

That is not the case --
My son had never been in my home before (we had not seen each other in 6 months) until last week. The minute he walked in the door and she came into the room, she started barking and growling and behaving in a manner that I had never seen before when a stranger entered my home. It has only gotten worse and I swear to you, he has not been in the house alone with her and she will not go into a room with him. He honestly did nothing to her to start it. Believe me, if he did, we would be estranged for another 6 months! that is why I am so out of ideas.

We have tried everything. He is really upset by it too. He has sat in the floor quietly and not said a word holding snacks for her, he has laid in the floor and not moved while placing the snackes within arm's length, and nothing works. She will not even go close to his shoes at the door without turning around and running back to my office and hiding.

She was not abused as a puppy (she came from family friends), but she did get parvo and have to be in the hospital for a week and I am wondering if something about him reminds her of something there. That is all I can come up with.
until the DNA is done in California (case)....they had

Well I do NOT believe Stern is the father at all........but Bahamian law is vastly diffferent from USA law....unfortunately.  But there is the DNA case in California ongoing......


I think they didn't want Daniel's DNA accessible and is why he is buried in the Bahamas.  However, Larry Birkhead may very well be the father.......so we will all still have to wait until the DNA case is over in California.


Patience............the truth shall prevail..................eventually....even if it takes decades..........it shall surface one day. 


Just in case you didn't know...sm
I initially had the same complaint as you with my Tracfone. About 95% of the time, if I technical issues, etc. and needed to call them, I would get someone who spoke very little English and was incredibly difficult to understand! As you know, extremely frustrating, especially when you are already annoyed with your phone not working.

At any rate, in case you didn't know, a lot of times you can avoid calling the company completely by going to their website at www.tracfone.com (I had the phone for a good 2-3 months before I was made aware of this). You can buy minutes and other accessories, add minutes, etc. The most convenient thing IMO is you can resolve a lot of techical issues online. All you need to do is register your account and go to technical support. There, you will find a list of common error messages. You can also activate or reactivate your phone. Usually any technical issues just involve clicking on the appropriate error message, entering your SIM card #, and you are given code(s) to enter into your phone. You usually do have to wait a few hours for this to go through. However, I still find it much less frustrating than calling the company.

If you already knew this, sorry about the long, drawn out reply, LOL.
The ONLY one I have ever felt for in their case is....

Years of therapy due to what both of her parents have done.  THEY have done it - nobody else - and the child is COMPLETELY innocent at 11....


In these cases, it's only the children who suffer...and these 2 nutcases should definitely know better, not like they are ill-educated and/or ignorant throughout the life.


Evidently they both need parenting classes and anger management classes....they have both created a very bad emotional situation for their daughter and personally she should probably be removed from their homes (possibly placed with a grandparent or some other relative) until these 2 nutcases CHOOSE to get themselves together.


 


I'm not going to jump on your case about this sm

But I wonder why you think these kids need to be told now? Has something happened that makes you think that someone besides their parents might let it slip? If that is the case, then maybe you need to talk to the parents about it and tell them that so-and-so found out and isn't good at keeping secrets, or whatever the case may be.


In any case, if you talk to anyone about this, talk to the parents.


If this was the case, then the doctor
should have had something like this posted in the office.  One would think.  I think $100.00 is a little high for a missed appointment anyway.  The standard is $25.00, but most offices have it clearly posted if that is the case.  Good luck!  Give 'em h-e-l-l------!!!!!!
Probably dust in case
It is very easy to open up case. Just look for some big screws holding case cover on. They usually just spin and you won't need any tools. After you get it off, used canned air to clean out the inside of case. Lots of dust can get on fans, boards, air vents and makes PC heat up.
No. In this case I believe in incompetence.

The rest of the time I believe in incredibly good luck, usually brought about because of someone else's incompetence. 


 


Why the civil case since
your son returned the stuff?

Perhaps something more could be worked out between the store, your son, and the police (or his counselor) so you needn't pay this fine.

In that case, Texas ought to be against also
because their capital punishment rates right up there with Florida and I would bet Texas is definitely into whuppings!
Is someone studying your case? (nm)
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I might go get it checked, just in case (sm)
With all the pool infections and such going around...has he been swimming in a public pool lately?
Just in case you don't know and can watch
this is what Oprah is about today.
Yes, the case was in Atlanta
The rings he took were from a young, married mother and her husband was relentless in finding out who did this. Not only was he able to recover his wife's rings but others saw the guy on TV and he also had committed crimes against their relatives. I definitely would ask about cameras that might be there. The home should want to assist.
In case nobody mentioned it,
the cat could have a UTI or kidney stones. However, I had a cat that started urinating on the bed because we introduced a dog to the family and she didn't like the dog. Then the littlest thing would set her off, like using the vacuum cleaner, or DH staying out late. DH would come home, flop into bed, and shriek in a most unmanly fashion after landing in cold urine. I talked to a cat behaviorist, who told me to put out 7 different litterpans with all different types of litter. I couldn't live like that.

A second young cat we adopted at about 6 months of age played much too rough with me and with another cat we had. I had to take her back also.