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If she doesn't care about the fact that her dog killed your 2 cats

Posted By: ER MT on 2007-04-30
In Reply to: It is an ugly situation which is why I'm was for suggestions - Her dogs

I don't understand why you are so afraid of offending her??!!! I don't know how much time has passed, but I would have been rip roaring FURIOUS at her, SIL or not, that she allowed her dog to do that not once but twice. She sounds pretty self-centered and uncaring to me.


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If her dogs killed my cats
I would probably just tar and feather her, that seems like a good remedy for me.
There's a lot of talk about DE, but the fact is, it doesn't work.

I base this on my own experience.  What does work, is this...


First, mow as directed. Apply a formulation of horticultural oil and water. If you don't know what to use ask your nursery or farm supply sote, also called 'dormant' oil. The same stuff you spray on your fruit trees in the Spring. Use the "summer" formulation, some soap (like dawn) may also be added as a 'spreader'. Spray at the reccomeded rate. Try to do this on a cloudy day or in the evening. Burning of foliage may occur, especially if it has been hot and dry. Do a small test spot if you are unsure and adjust accordingly. The oil (and/or soap) will smother the mites and severly limit numbers available for reproduction.


You can also use sulfur dust (aka flowers of sulfur). Use the recommended rate. The action here is that sulfor dioxide (SO2) is formed by oxidation in the presence of sunlight and kills the pest. The sulfur will also kill other insects, possibly the beneficials as well. Do not, and I repeat DO NOT use oil and sulfur at the same time , that is unless you want to kill everything. But, if you do that is a great way to go about it, much better than defoliants.


Best of luck


I don't care for cats either...
They are just evil little creatures. Honestly, they are scary to me with their freaky eyes...not everyone has to love cats (or animals for that matter) just because some do...to each her own, right? However, stating one's dislike for cats (or anything) over and over is ridiculous, so I do see your point there.
Yep, and that "donkey" in the white house doesn't care.
No reason for gas to be that high right now, especially diesel!  But as long as they are making a fortune on it, they don't care what it is doing to the economy.
I think cats look beautiful - love pics of cats

They can also be he!! on wheels to live with and a major PITA.


I say this as my dog is barking at a leaf blowing by the front door.....


I don't care about your things, and can't imagine anyone would care about mine.
Whether it's my eating quirks or my sexual preferences, I have no need to divulge that stuff here.
It's NOT that interesting (mine OR yours!) and nobody cares.
Hey, have at it. If you want a lazy, apathetic, not affectionate, doesn't listen, doesn't make
can reach him!!! Let me know if you're interested.
it just about killed me ;)
actually I just ran out of $. Keep it up - it is a fantastic way to exercise. Be careful not to let the instructor/yoursel push you too hard.
It doesn't make me mad but it doesn't sound intelligent either (sm)
I am sure if all of those people who were aborted were living, some would be good and some would be bad, in the same proportion as there is good to bad now. Your statement makes no sense. So somehow the babies who were aborted were meant to be aborted because they were bad seeds? Whatever. Sorry, that's just silly.
It doesn't always work that way though - some give but it doesn't come back like that nm
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I almost killed my cat with tunafish!

Go figure that one out!  He was a Maine Coon cat...just HUGE with a huge appetite and I ran out of food, so I grabbed a can of tuna until I could get to the store.  That night I woke up to SCREAMING like I have never heard an animal scream before and his whole body was spasming.  Oh it was the most horrible thing I had ever witnessed!  I called an emergency vet clinic who took him in right away.  He had a complete blockage of his urethra and couldn't pee...he was a heartbeat away from blowing his bladder and dying.  They had to catheterize him and the bag was full of bloody urine and he spent 3 days in the hospital.  I was a wreck but he was ultimately fine.  Holy crap did that vet bill nearly cripple me!  ICU for a cat...why oh why do I keep on with these friggin' animals?! 


You never know what will cause something to go wrong with these things.  Never blame yourself...ever.  We are all doing the best we can with what we have.



I once had a dream that my dog got killed - sm
and a week later to the day, she did. And it happened exactly like in my dream.
not the ones who end up being killed or prostitutes - sm
no, they don't always come back, there would be no missing persons if that was the case.
Yes, she most definitely killed her...I have no doubts...
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Yesterday's headlines killed me.
"Dr. Melfi quits treating Tony Soprano to start treating Paris Hilton!"

Too funny.

She said on The View that "Paris called and needed me so I had to make all my time available for Paris and her family!"

How not to get killed?!?!?! How about leave the idi0t!!!
I am very independent and I don't care if I have to go get a one bedroom apartment so my two small kids and I can have a place to go. I would not live in fear of my life over anything! I would figure it all out once I got a restraining order and filed a divorce! Wow, I could say a lot, but I am going to keep my comments to myself. That is what I would do. You asked for advice, there you have it!
My youngest step son was killed ........ sm
in a motorcycle accident and was almost decapitated. The mortician did a very good job with him, but there was still some evidence of the trauma he suffered. His mother chose to have an open casket because I doubt she could have dealt with it any other way. It was a very hard funeral, and hard for me as I had not seen him in quite some time and it was hard seeing him lying in a casket, but I think, hard as it was, it did help bring closure for me and for his family. I think it is a very personal decision that only the family can make at a time like this.
Kinda like asking if OJ killed Nicole or not NM
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Or they want to raise them so they can be killed in a senseless war!!
Not that I think it is good to kill fetuses either ... but why don't these people see their lack of logic!

And as far as the stem cells and embryos ... why don't they fight to stop allowing people to fertilize and freeze them to begin with (or more than they will surely use)?!!
I read about a 6yo that killed his classmate
I know this doesn't pertain to you because some kid killed his father after he saw his father committing violence, but I just thought this was interesting article. It's called Why little kids kill. I just cannot fatham anyone at 6 years old doing that. What happened to young innocense....

If I were you and the family seems non-challant I would definitely talk to a police officer and state your concerns. Especially in today's day and age - nothing surprises me.

http://life.familyeducation.com/early-learning/violence/36442.html


nah -- we killed too many brain cells

snorting the crack OUR parents didn't teach us about!


Geesh -- why always so quick to blame the parents?  This kid is 14 years old and knew better than to do this.  She chose to do it anyway, just like so many others before her time chose to get up knocked up, strung out on drugs, become an alcoholic, etc. 


Yes, the kid screwed up, but that's what kids do.  Didn't you ever have a friend who stole a car in high school or got caught cheating and ended up expelled?  It's not the end of the world, but spreading it all over the media could very well push this kid over the edge and cause her to hurt herself.  She obviously is looking for attention or affection.  This is certainly not going to help her.


Her name was Meredith Emerson, and it was just last January that she was killed.
I know the story very well, and even hiked in memory of her a few weeks after she was killed. Her murder caused great grief along the entire 2100+ miles of the trail, and all of us who love the trail know full well what can happen out there.

The trail community is very difficult to explain to people who haven't experienced it. Yes, people have been killed on the Appalachian Trail, probably about a dozen or so in the over 70 years that the trail has been open. Given the thousands who walk all or part of the trail each year, it is statistically safer on the trail than in "civilization". You are correct, however, that hikers are more in danger than the people who pick them up. The most dangerous places on the trail are at the trailheads and near roads where people pretend to help hikers and then do harm. That is why I pick up hikers, because they are more afraid of me than I am of them. Also, there's quite a bit of communication that goes up and down the trail, and we do keep track of people as they travel. It's very likely that when I pick someone up near the trail, I've heard about their trip. In hiker slang, people who help hikers are called trail angels. It's a different situation. It's not 100% safe, but I choose not to cower at home. I hike the A.T. and other trails, usually with friends, sometimes alone. I tell my family, that if harm should come to me, either through accident or evil, they should remember that I go into the woods because I love it, and should I die there, they should remember that I loved it too much to stay away.

The Appalachian Trail is not the lawless, dangerous passageway that so many people think it is. More times than I can count, I've been asked about the dangers of the trail. Usually I just shrug and smile. It's not worth the argument, because I can't change the minds of people who don't know. On the other hand, I don't want to change minds. If I did, there'd be traffic jams on the trail, and it wouldn't be fun anymore.
Women with restraining orders are killed by their abuser
Don't get a false sense of security. There have been good advances in the past 20 years but it's still a man's world.

Stay in contact with your friends and family and make sure to give a few of them a code word. Something like the sky is blue or I really want chinese food and they will know to call the police if you are in trouble. Do what you need to do to protect yourself. Do not count on the police. I was attacked in my home 2 hours after leaving the courthouse. I even called 911 when I got home because I was scared. They were on their way but he got there faster.
I was young and nieve and had a newborn I was thinking about. I wish someone would have told me not to go home. Please don't be nieve like I was and trust the system and that piece of paper. It's hard to imagine your home isn't safe or that someone is going to be 100x more aggressive then you have ever seen them be.
I would move and change your numbers and make sure if you work outside your home you alert EVERYONE including the receptionist and your boss/manager and security.
UNC Student Killed, now WBC protestors plan to picket
I live in NC and the news of the murdered student body president (out of respect will not list her name here) has upset all of us in this area, of all religions and non-religious as well.  The WBC is a radical group calling themselves "Christians" who plan to protest at UNC during the memorial service for this beloved young woman.  The group is listed as a "hate group" but call themselves Christians and wear shirts and bear signs saying "God hates you" and God hates colleges, etc.  Their website proclaims "thank God another college student is dead."  This is so horrible and unspeakable.  For those who are not Christian, please do not believe for one moment that this represents common Christian viewpoints.  It definitely does not. The vast majority of Christians are horrified at what these people believe and proclaim. 
you got mighty lucky because boric acid is poisonous and could have killed them
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Just read where a 42-year-old woman was mauled and killed by her own 2 pit bulls sm

in FL near Jacksonville. Then the dogs turned on her son  who was also bit in the throat but luckily will survive.  Then the dogs turned on the sherrif's dept before they were both shot and killed. THANK GOD. I hate these dogs. I'm sorry. When my brother was walking home from fishing years ago pits attacked him and he's never been the same. Thankfully he survived.  When you go to the FL news website you see tons of pit bull owners sticking up for this breed and saying how they are great dogs. if they are so great why are they banned in multiple counties across the nation? No other type of dog is banned? Neighbors, cousins all say that she was a very loving owner who even slept with the dogs. No neglect, nothing. There were people saying that they leave their pits alone with their young children, as young as 3 years old! How ignorant can you be?


Tons of FL residents are calling of the extinction of this breed and I think that's a great idea.  You cannot trust a pit bull PERIOD.  There is something in their brains that can TICK at any time - this was quoted by a vet who specializes in dog care.  So tell me, why do people take chances with this kind of dog? I'm so angry right now!!!!!!


Obviously you've never had a family member killed by a drunk driver.
Long ago? Time has nothing to do with it. The man has an alcohol problem and left the scene of a homicide. Sounds like you're ok with that. I'm not. It speaks volumes about his character.
I disagree. Women have gotten killed by not moving or changing their phone numbers.
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Young lady killed here in Georgia, Appalachian trail hiker
and she was enjoying going out about 2 years ago, killed on a mountain here by man posing as hiker. She was a young, vibrant lady in her 20s, he was in his 60s. I think I am getting this right when I say he used her police baton she carried for protection, wrestled it away from her and killed her with it. Is not the trail you hike on known for lot of crimes? This murder happened on that same trail where you give rides to strangers. This man was well known to other hikers there as he hung out on the trail lots of times.
The sad fact is, from what you have said (sm)
the dog is likely dangerous not only to cats, but to everyone else, as others have pointed out.

I would do some research with the hard facts about aggressive dogs and make an appointment to sit down with her and have it out. She needs an intervention as she is in denial about a potentially disastrous situation.

The dog most likely *should* be euthanized at this point.
Other than the fact
I have a daughter instead of a son, and we haven't been married quite as long, I could've written your post... I also feel like I'm a hermit now, always was a little shy, but MUCH more so now. I think I have depression now too. I'm 40 by the way. I don't have any solutions, but just wanted to say you're not alone.
It's not the fact that she maybe has a point
in that post, but the fact that she takes every opportunity to jump on any person here who works at home with children and makes broad generalizations about how we do our job and how we don't.

Me, personally, I did this to stay home. I however did not work full time when my kids were babies. There is no way I feel like I could have. I am working full time now that they are out of the house in school. Yet, I was accused of being one of those "unprofessionals."

I agree the OP needs to find another solution, because the one she has isn't working.
The fact that she reached out to you

...is a very good sign. It means that she hasn't entirely given up hope yet. But she needs all the support she can get. I don't know what resources are available in your area or what she has already tried, but she needs to get into therapy immediately and she needs to find a way to obtain her medications and start taking them again. There are agencies which can help with problems like these - you can help her search for them and help her do whatever is required (filling out applications, etc.) to get her going - because of her depression, she may not have the energy to do all of this on her own right now.


The most important thing you can do is to let her know that you are there for her, that she is important to you, and that ALL problems are solvable - maybe not in exactly the manner we would prefer (it is possible she may lose her house) but sometimes a situation that seems so dire at the time may end up having an unexpected, positive affect on our lives. Believe me, I speak from personal experience.


Kudos to you for being so caring and concerned about your coworker.


I know for a fact it was wrong and someone
else who was also devastated when he died because she felt like a mom to him. This is not someone who knows someone either. This is my family I am talking about. I'm not going to put all the details here on a message board, but I am going to say all sources I don't care where they came from are wrong by stating that her mother cared for him up until he was 6 years old. They are false or mistaken. Maybe she claimed to have taken care of him and that's fine, but she did not take care of him for the first 6 years of his life.
The fact they depreciate instead of
what houses are supposed to do - increase in value, is one reason not to. But I had a townhouse I just adored. Lawn was taken care of for me.
It's not the fact that he goes on those sites

My husband and I have used porn during our marriage to "spice things up," and I was perfectly okay with that. The OP is not. This is an area of marriage where I think there must be either agreement or acceptable compromise, or the marriage will not work.


Yes, they should try to work things out before giving up on their marriage. But it doesn't sound promising.


The mere fact
That you ask if you are overreacting means that you, unfortunately, are playing the victim. NO ONE should question whether or not they are overreacting, when in their gut THEY KNOW that in fact they are being abused. You husband has no respect for himself or you....it was smart of you to cut him off from sex, but obviously that has not deterred him from trying to break you down even more. This isn't about sex, it's about power and control. GET OUT NOW.
As a matter of fact, he did.
Actually, a few years later he took the boys, then 8 and 14, because they needed the discipline of a dad. Bad mistake! He'd convinced me he had changed, but then went out to his play rehearsals and band practice every night, leaving the boys at home. I'd sue to get custody back, he'd shape up for awhile, I'd back off, and the cycle repeated until I ran out of money. The boys are grown now, doing basically okay. He's just pathetic now.
Yes in fact one of them is already spoken for
from a little girl that goes to our church. The little girl who owns the guinea pig and bred her has such a love for animals that she would not let them go to anybody that wouldn't take care of them! For her 13th birthday instead of asking for presents for herself, she asked each girl that was coming to the party to bring a gift for a dog or cat and then took them to the animal shelter and spent her birthday giving away the gifts to the animals and playing with them, brushing them and just being with them. She is an awesome young lady!
As a matter of fact -
I love making cinnamon-rasin bread with this same recipe. Also, it's great for homemade pizza and bread sticks - and a lot cheaper than sending out, though maybe a little more labor intensive! Worth it for the taste, though. I've also made fried dough on special occasions. Great minds DO think alike!
Why don't you appreciate the fact that he cooks???
I mean, seriously. You said, "he messed up my good cake pain?" What the he**? My husband doesn't even know here our dam cake pan is. Quit complaining, pull your big girl panties up and either leave or stand up for yourself! Sitting in another room crying? Don't give him that much power. He sounds just as mad as you are. I bet it's not all his fault. I've been married a long time. When one person acts like that they are mad at the other person. Talk to him. Don't whine and complain. Be proactive and leave if it's that bad, although he rented a room to be with you so it can't be that bad.
I don't think your nuts. In fact...

I just noticed my back STOPPED itching.  I had an itchy back for the longest time...always rubbing against doorways like a crazed grizzly bear rubbing on a tree trunk, using a coat hanger to scratch myself, bathroom towel, you name it. 


I think what was causing my problem was my chair!  Whatever the fabric was on it was causing my back to get really heated and probably caused it to sweat and caused the itchies.  I have a new chair and it just dawned onto me that I don't itch anymore!  Well, I mean aside from the usual wintertime dryness, but nothing like before. 


Anyway, it's just a thought.   By the way, I'm jealous that you have Valium.  Always wanted to try the stuff but no one likes to prescribe it anymore it seems.  I just down some cheap wine instead.  Works just as well I guess. 


Hope you get some relief soon!


No, as a matter of fact
I did not revel. I did not know what to think seeing here there saying that. Unfortunately, I don't live where she was speaking and the news channels did not show the whole speech, only parts of it. I do have to say that now she is putting it out there that her comment was aimed at "gangsta rappers." That can't be factual, or if it WAS, I sure did not see anybody remotely fitting that description in her audience. Why can't she just say, "Woops, I said it, but did not mean it and I'm sorry. That was inappropriate." Instead, she has all sorts of commenters out there blowing smoke trying to CYA for her, trying to twist it and put it into a context that casts her in a better light. Frankly, I am sick of her more than I can say. She should be thankful to live here in the US where she got into a great college when she had a very poor GPA, which would never have happened anywhere but here in the US.
I pray it is not fact ..
I pray it is not fact ..I can't imagine a tabloid reporting such news without a reliable source. I know, I know. They are scum and do bad reporting all the time.
as a matter of fact, it's not so dum...
See, the cats have it both ways. They are predator without truly being prey. Plus, their numbers are great enough that it's conceivable they could impact local populations. And honestly, domestic housecats are "exotic species" to the North American fauna, not a natural predator or part of the normal ecosystem at all. So, yeah, the guy has a point.

But then I'm biased, I admit, because I keep my own cats indoors and I'm aggravated no end with the neighbor cats who come and spray in my yard. :)
You need to reinforce the fact to him that
just because you work at home does not mean you are available for whatever. You have a responbility to your job too and should fairly well set hours as if you were in an office. I have had to explain that to my kids (19 and 14) that just because I am home does not mean "I am at home."
As a matter of fact
I will be spending Thanksgiving with my daughter (age 39) and some of her friends and we plan to break out the old Trivial Pursuit!  Can't wait - it sure beats watching sports on T.V.
It is mainly the fact that the seller will not..sm
respond to any emails. All he has to do is respond and say yes it has been shipped. It leads me to believe he is avoiding me.
We try to buy organic and in fact
going to the local farmer's market today- we buy chicken like that and also hubs likes to get vegetables and fruits like that also. You are right though- the only way is doing your own farming or knowing where they sell organic.
Fact or Opinion

DS is stuck on two questions.


"I enjoy reading books by Judy Blume" Is this fact or opinion. DS says fact, I say opinion.


Next


"My mom loves for me to wear blue shirts" fact or opinion.
I say opinion, he says fact.


I'm confused now because if I were to say that I enjoy reading a certain book, I would consider it fact for me.


Not looking for sympathy, in fact
I figure to get the opposite! Doesn't matter! I'm a smoker ... yeah that's right, a dirty low life scum of the earth polluting your air smoker! One of the few little pleasure I have in life. When the price of cigarettes went sky high, we started "rolling our own". It was a lot cheaper, for a while. The price of the tobacco went up, but still much cheaper than cigarettes. Well today, DH was informed at or local tobacco store, that because of a new tax hike, it will go from $9.14 a can to over $20.00 by April 1st? Ok. I'm done, let the stoning begin...