If abortion is murder ...
Posted By: Not Political on 2009-01-26
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How do you treat a woman who has had an abortion? Do you treat her differently from a woman who strangled her newborn? Or a woman who killed the neighbor lady because she wanted the neighbor man for her own?
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I'm pro-choice. Abortion is not murder. SM
Abortions are performed very early on in pregnancy. I'm afraid to say this, but basically, it is a lump of tissue. Women have to right to form their own opinion, but the idea a person is aborting a roly-poly fully formed baby is a crock. This is propaganda devised by right-winged fundamentalists, many of whom happen to be men.
I do believe in practicing safe sex, so abortion will not be needed. That is the ideal, but we are all only human.
No, I never had an abortion. I had my daughter at age 25, after being married 5 years. My daughter was married at 30 and had her first child at 31. We are both Pro Choice.
Yes, could be murder.
I said these same things to my husband this evening. I thought it odd that her now husband supposedly called the ET show and stated he was worried about Anna because she had a fever. They have money -- why not call a doctor instead of a TV show? Was he setting the stage? There are so many things that could have happened.
Am I the only one that thinks this could be murder?
When her son died, Anna's mother went on TV and said that she thought he was murdered and said that she thought Anna was in danger. Now Anna is dead.
There are a lot of people who are now going to profit now that both of them are dead. The old billionaire's family now has a pretty good chance of keeping their money. So the billionaire's family could have paid to have them both killed. At the very least, they are saving millions in attorney fees.
If she does still have a claim to that money, her infant now is the sole heir to that, and the remaining parent stands to also get a huge part of that. Her lawyer/husband now will inherit everything if he really is the father. So, he could have killed them both for profit.
Then, there is the ex-boyfriend who wants his kid. He could have killed her off to try to get his kid back and get a stake in the billionaire's fortune also.
And all of them had to know that since she always slurs her speech and has problems with drugs and alcohol, the public could easily buy that it was an accident or suicide.
Phil Spector murder trial. Anyone
been watching that on Court TV? Don't you think Phil Spector, with his "new hair do", looks like Pee Wee Herman???? LOL.
They have been off for the past 2 days due to one of the defense lawyers having to go to the hospital. Kind of interesting to watch trials on T.V.
well he pardoned a serial rapist that went on to murder
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Rest easy. Aborting is not murder.
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Look at this headline "Michigan Teens Murder, Dismember Sex Offender (sm)
This man was ambushed, murdered, beheaded and burned. The headline says these teens murdered a sex offender. Way down in the article it says that this man 9 years ago at age 17 had sex with a 14 year old. That was his offense. It does not say he raped her. While I agree he should not have had sex with a 14 year old, I think it is very unfair that after he suffered such a horrible death the headline reads that a sex offender was murdered. The article also says that his being a "sex offender" had nothing to do with why the boys murdered him, they just did it to do it. How sad that after his death, that is what they post about him!!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071113/ap_on_re_us/burned_torso
How pompous! I'm a single mom and I didn't "breed" - I chose not to murder a baby. sm
yep, I'm a single mom and I'm proud of it. I was in a very stable long-term relationship and I ended up getting pregnant while on the pill. But I didn't "breed" as you put it. You breed cattle, not babies.
If she'd had an abortion you would never even know about it.
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By not having an abortion.
Like I said, it's not ideal, but so many people are so judgemental toward people who have kids young - at least they didn't take the easy way out and get an abortion. I am not a pro lifer, but I do respect people who are willing to step up and raise their kids no matter what age they are. I have friends who were forced to have abortions by their parents because they got pregnant young because the parents were so afraid of what people would think, and that's not right either.
I don't think their mom is going to win any mother-of-the year awards, but if she didn't accept Jamie Lynn's decision than she greatly reduces her chances of having a good relationship with the grandchild. Babies are a gift - even when they aren't born into the perfect suburban home. I'm not saying teen pregnancy is a good thing, but it happened, and now she has to make the best of a tough situation.
I'm against abortion, as well.
If you're referring to recognizing their civil union as a marriage, I am against it.
I agree with abortion being a choice.
should everyone see an ultrasound beforehand? I am for the choice to do as you choose. I believe in freedom as well, but there are people out there that believe abortion is murder. That is all I was stating above there. What I am saying is that there are circumstances like some named in this thread that shall we say "warrant" an abortion, but those "rules" would need to be up to the lawmaker. Are we only talking about teenage pregnancies or pregnancies after the age of 45? What type of pregnancies are we talking about that the mother should look at the ultrasound beforehand? There would be a lot of ifs, ands, and buts, for this to become a law, wouldn't some agree? That is all I was stating there. I think this may have been misinterpreted. Of course, I believe a woman has the right to choose in regards to her own healthcare whether it be an abortion, a hysterectomy, or to have a fracture fixated. All the same to me. Sorry if I have offended anyone, but that is how I feel.
Anonymous question regarding abortion (sm)
With this being a major factor in the political arena right now I wanted to ask this:
For anyone who has ever had an abortion (and there are many of us), were/are you ok with it still or did you have a period of extreme guilt/anxiety over it? I had one and did not terribly regret it, other than a short grief period, until I actually had children. I went through about two years of horrible guilt and remorse. I am now pro-life. I feel an abortion kills an innocent child and causes emotional scars for the mother that will never go completely away. I feel that I am not deserving of complete happiness in my life, ever, because I denied my child the right to have a life and attempt to find happiness. I know my reasons at that time and I know I felt like it was something I had to do, but the fact is many of us had them to avoid the shame, embarassment and/or financial burden that we feared. We thought we couldn't give our child a decent life even if we had him/her. The thing is, for the small price of some embarassment/shame and inconvenience, we could have given a family without a child a chance to have a child to love and raise, we could have given that child an opportunity to grow and seek happiness, even with obstacles to overcome. Instead, many of us chose a more selfish route, convincing ourselves it was less selfish. Anyway, that's how I feel about it. How about you.
What about Gay Rights and FOCA (abortion) then?
hmmmm?
We can legalize Gays and Abortion but prostitution, pot, marijuana etc. (much lesser evils) should be "prosecuted heavily", oh come on .... It's all about "feeling good". If gays 'feel good' with each other and teenage moms 'feel good' to abort then what's your issue with pot or marijuana users? Don't they have a right to feel good with all the economic benefits for government?
Whoever said abortion feels good? nm
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I agree..I would even, in this case, opt for abortion.....nm
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Get over it. Abortion is legal, and American women
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No matter what laws are made, if women want to get an abortion
then they will. I have a couple of abortions prior to a marriage and prior to my 2 children. I have never so called suffered because of my decision, in fact I was young and could not have taken care of any children. I do not regret this decision. Either legal or illegal, makes no difference in a woman making the decision to seak an abortion.
Don't you remember Ronald Reagan's stance on abortion? sm
It was "I'm PRO-CHOICE. If the unborn baby has a choice, I am PRO-CHOICE."
You are correct: The majority of people would NOT vote for abortion
But they WOULD vote FOR Reproductive Choice. Speaking of "activist judges" - how do you feel about the handful that installed a War Criminal in our Whitehouse?
Yes, but abortion would be only taking the budding tomatoe, not the whole plant.
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no, abortion is taking a HUMAN life with a soul.
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and the crime rate dropped 20 years after abortion was legalized
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