I will be blasted but...

Posted By: my opinion on 2008-03-11
In Reply to: Gotta a cat question... what is the consensus on declawing? SM - MissouriMT

I had my cat declawed when he was very young but this was 15 years ago too. He completely ruined my entire apartment, pulling the stuffing out of furniture, bedding, etc. I did everything in my power to have him use a scratching post but he preferred my furniture. I didn't want to do it but it was either that or get rid of him which I had no plans of doing. He seemed to be in no pain after having it done and never developed any problems. It was a blessing for both of us. Most people are against it but I see it as being able to save the cat. There are a lot of people out there who would get rid of the cat first and then blast everybody who has this procedure done. It's a no win situation with some.

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Gotta a cat question... what is the consensus on declawing? SM - MissouriMT
- It's cruel. It's a very painful procedure for the cat - sm - San Francisco
- One drawback - Me
  - I just adopted a declawed cat - sm
    - Maybe she is defensive because she was declawed - and outside. That had to be a trauma itself. SM
  - For many years when worked in animal clinic, after - declaw cats still used regular litter with SM
- Ok, they clawed up an ottoman of mine and guess what? - Animal lover
- http://www.declawing.com/ nm - anon
- Claw covers and sticky paws - KCMT
- Never declawed any of the dozen cats I have had over my lifetime - sm - catlady
- I declawed one and not another. - sm
- You can get little claw covers (sm) - cat person
  - She has a scratching post that I bought when I first got her, but she never... SM - MissouriMT
    - post made of carpet? make one and upholster it. - 2 cats, 1 dog
  - You can get these at most vet clinics. - Some vets will even apply them for you. nm
  - The claw covers come off and have to be replaced - frequently. What if come off when you are gone?
- Having worked in vet clinic, I would do it. It is not - ripping out nails, It is sm
  - I would read the "declawing.com" link posted above. - Graphic illustration of the inhumanity of declawin
  - amputation is amputation - romey
    - Comparison very much valid. Having seen & followed - thousands of declaws I KNOW it is not a bad thing.
      - I guess you know because it is not your fingers you are losing, NM - romey
        No. I KNOW because it is what I have seen - and experienced and discussed with owners. nm
        once again OWNERS, if only we could ask the cats, I think the response would be different, NM - romey
        And I think cats would rather be declawed than - thrown outside or given to strangers. nm
        My brother's declawed cats have a great life - AgingMT
- Give her something else to claw on. They love rattan and wicker. Get - something cheap and watch her go.
- inside - jlynn
  - This is very important.. - my opinion
    - Cats declawed front only can still climb trees and - can still fight using back claws. nm
      - You could be right but... - my opinion
        I completely agree with you. Cats much happier inside. Hard - life outside.
        And yes, I could type minus first joints of fingers. It - doesnt stop me using my shortened ring finger.
        and I could paint with my feet if I had no arms - romey
        If your choice was no arms or being put in strange - dangerous surrounding with no experience SM
        Joint, arm, let's see I would rather not have a portion of my arm or the whole thing, really, I d - romey
        So you are saying amputation okay because - creatures can adapt? I agree. nm
        Oops, this is reply to romy's above post. - nm
- I will be blasted but... - my opinion
  - I know what you mean about a no win - likes cats
  - My first cat was declawed (sm) - tnmt

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