I think there are probably more animals in heaven than people, too. (nm)
Posted By: San Francisco on 2007-10-07
In Reply to: For sure. Can't wait to see my childhood kitty! - Here's a great poem (sm) kam
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Animals in heaven? NM
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Don't go telling people they are "special enough" to enter heaven because they were "goo
Shame on you
heaven
I had a "near death" experience and got a glimpse of the other side. The colors were different, more vibrant, more shades and variations than here and the music was indiscribable. This happened in childbirth over 40 years ago and I can still remember every exquisit detail. I also totally believe in reincarnation and that someday we will see heaven spread over the earth and wake up to it's splendor for what it (we) really are.
I don't believe in heaven either...
but that's because I am what I am--a godless atheist. ;-)
I always have to take the difficult path in my life choices it seems, don't know why, must be my whole "gotta have a challenge" mentality. I envy the people who believe in god, heaven, and all the good things that come with the comfort of firmly believing in what happens when we die. I just can never be convinced otherwise; my mom tried right up to her own death and said she was sad for me.
Well I'm not sad and I don't feel purposeless either. I just believe in science and need something tangible. I don't think I'll just become a wormfeast though when I die (course I will be cremated unless there's nothing left to cremate for some reason), but there's some sort of biological electricity in all living things, so I'd like to think that electricity gets transferred some how. In what way, I have no idea.
Cue the Star Trek music now! 
Heaven to me would be seeing my
Dad and relatives and some dear friends completely restored and happy, and being reunited with my pets; Greta, Maggie, Angus and Molly.
I'm going to Heaven and you're not.
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I feel certain you will see her in Heaven - sm
Once we get to be with God, there is no division by religion, that's what I believe anyway. If she was a good person, she will be there.
I'm Jewish. I believe in God, but not heaven, at
Not in the other place either. However, I believe bad people get theirs in the end, one way or the other.
Trose - Heaven
Trose, I love the creativity of this site.. go down the page for the beautiful animated graphic, and oh the words underneath are awesome.
http://www.angelfire.com/la2/OurAngel/Links.html
Kingdom of Heaven
Anything with Orlando Bloom is excellent. Seen this movie about 50 or so times and think I will watch it again tomorrow.
Oh for heaven's sake.
There is nothing hateful in my post. At ALL. I gave 2 conditions; either she likes the way she looks or she doesn't. Either way, SHE is the one responsible. Not the MRI company, not airlines, not McDonalds, no one else. If you think this is hateful, it's because you don't think she should take responsibility for her own behavior, & I'm willing to bet you would like the rest of us to take responsibility for yours as well. Good grief! You even want me to take responsibility for your feelings when all I've done is state a couple of facts & conditions. Why am I not surprised.
Yes. It's hard to lose weight. Millions of years of evolving to super-efficient fat storage have seen to that. But actions have consequences. Everyone who is obese seems to think no one noticed how they got that way. Now the consequences of that behavior are yet another thing the rest of the population is supposed to take responsibility for, like bad loans or cigarette companies or bad business plans or anything else, & it pi&&es me off.
Oh for heaven's sake.
There is nothing hateful in my post. At ALL. I gave 2 conditions; either she likes the way she looks or she doesn't. Either way, SHE is the one responsible. Not the MRI company (and not airlines, not McDonalds, not the cigarette companies), NO ONE else. If you think this is hateful, it's because you don't think she should take responsibility for her own behavior, & I'm willing to bet you would like the rest of us to take responsibility for yours as well. Good grief! You even want me to take responsibility for your hurt feelings when all I've done is state a couple of facts & conditions. Why am I not surprised. Sorry, but I am of the opinion that we all make our own beds & lie in them.
Yes. It's hard to lose weight. Millions of years of evolving to super-efficient fat storage have seen to that. But actions have consequences. Everyone who is obese seems to think no one noticed how they got that way. Now the consequences of that behavior are yet another thing the rest of the population is supposed to take responsibility for, like bad loans or bad business plans or anything else, & it pi&&es me off.
Well, obviously. For heaven's sake.
If there's a surgical indication, like inability to urinate, of course I would have it done! WITH anesthesia.
What I'm against is unnecessary circumcision, which the vast majority are. I seriously question the ability of practitioners to discern developmental phimosis, which will correct itself naturally over time, with phimosis that will cause a serious health condition later in life.
http://www.nocirc.org/publish/pamphlet6.html
Trose, I don't believe in heaven, but I would teach SM
heaven to small children, until they are older and can grasp death in the reality of truth. Hmm,did that make any sense? It's late.
Another heaven quote I love!!
Perspective on Death:
Death is God carrying us in one arm while the other flings aside heaven's door to welcome us back to the blazing hearth of our first home
.... while those inside, having arrived before us, rush to the door like glad children shouting, "They're here!"
Death has a bad name on earth but in heaven it's a homecoming party everytime the door opens.
God does not forget those earthbound children, sad and left behind.
God leaves the party early to enter into their despair and to get them ready for their own parties SOME DAY!
Phyllis Koehl (author)
If you expect $60K to rain down from heaven think again
My Bible tells me that the Lord will provide (and has provided) for all of my needs, it does not say he will send money raining down for me whenever I get myself into excess debt. Rest assured that the Lord will provide the faithful with all that they need and plenty of what they want. It is your right to believe otherwise, but do not step on my Christian beliefs in the process.
Luke 12:28, "If then God so clothe the grass, which is today in the field, and tomorrow is cast into the oven; how much more will he clothe you, O ye of little faith?"
Imagine the music in Heaven now!
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Grandparents are Heaven on Earth
I have no kids so can only give you a viewpoint of how my grandparents shaped my life. I grew up very close (personally) to my grandparents (grandma was my second mom). My grandparents (moms side) lived up the road from us (about a 5 min walk with an open field between us). In the mornings we would walk outside and if she was out we would yell "hello up there" and grandma would yell back "hello down there". She took care of my sister and I during the day while mom worked. We went everywhere with her every day (hairdresser, butcher, stores, errands, church activities, her friends house, etc). She taught us how to whistle with a blade of grass, play "here is the church & here is the steeple, open the doors and see all the people" with our hands. We ate every Sunday supper with them and then she and grandpa moved the living room furniture and taught us how to polka to Lawrence Welk. We also ate there often during the week. Once a week we would spend the night at their house. Grandpa had a lawnmower repair and sales business but anytime I was having trouble in school, he would come in and after supper sit down and help me (mostly with math), but he didn't even think twice about not helping. He was the most unselfish person in the whole world. When I was feeling down about my grade on a report card or test (I was a C & D student, occasionally a B and very rare an A) he would ask me if I did the best that I could and I said I tried really hard but I just didn't understand. He told me as long as I tried the hardest I could he was proud of me. We grew up in the country and g'ma taught us about wild flowers, quilting, and other country type stuff. During the winter we would have sled parties at her house for my girl scout troop and she would bring out hot cocoa with mini marshmallows. Just a couple years ago my best childhood friend was telling me she had just been thinking about that sled party and my grandma bringing us the hot cocoa, and I just have so many wonderful life memories the list would go on and on. She died when I was 16 (30 years ago), grandpa died a few years ago. I miss them so much it still hurts. My dad's grandparents lived 15 minutes from us and we spent every Sunday afternoon with them and when I was old enough to drive I would go up on my own during the weekdays and sit at the table and talk and talk with grandma for hours. I miss them both so much too. I think grandparents are the most wonderful gift a child could have. I was blessed to have mine live so close to us. They spoiled us rotten and we loved it!
Oh how I dream of being young again and having my grandparents to talk to. I'm now 48 and live alone with husband. All my grandparents and mom are gone, dad lives across the country and I see him once every 3 years. I sure do miss them all. I hope all kids have a chance to be close to their grandparents the way I was.
My mom (when she was alive) and dad all have fond memories of their parents (they both told me they had the best parents anywhere).
So the only way I can sum it up is that "Grandparents are Heaven on Earth".
Poem "My First Christmas in Heaven"
In the search box put My First Christmas in Heaven poem" and do a Google search.
Make sure it is the poem written by a 13-year-old boy to his mom before he died of a brain tumor
Read this poem every year as if your son is sending it to you.
Of course not!!! Heaven forbid!! She wound have NO part of that!
I said she was perfect, didn't I? Her life was perfect. Everyone should be like her... but of course, I come across women every day with all kinds of problems because they are not perfect and their lives are not perfect ... ahh... poor them... I try to provide them with exercises and the like to help them improve their damaged and imperfect psyches, but there are no guarantees when one has a hisory of making mortal mistakes...
Someone who is atheist clearly is not going to Heaven. No judging, just stating fact as
per the Holy Bible.
I didn't judge anyone. I said, I'm going to Heaven and you're not to that person and
according to the Bible that is true. There was no judging in the post.
There is another bright star in animal heaven. He was a beautiful boy. NM
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Add green chili and some cheese, and I'd have died and gone to heaven! nm
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It's only a teeny weeny piece of skin, for heaven's sake, get real! nm
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Just a tip about animals
As I am getting cleaned up from Christmas and heading towards the New Year, thought I would pass on something that I do and if you don't know about it and can do the same, here tis: I get the newspapers each day (along with lots of subscriptions to different magazines), save them up and when I get a big bunch I take them to my local animal shelter. They cut them up and use for bedding for the animals. Pass it on.....
Well at least they like animals...
I'd take them for neighbors over someone who *shoots at* animals, any day!
Animals
Dogs and cats are good! That will be a fun job and animals are so loving and grateful for anything we do. Good choice too since you get free vet care you can get another dog! Or two. You can never have enough dogs. I only have three. I need a bigger house so I can have more dogs! They are our "babies" and are spoiled. I would hate to transcribe without my dogs who sit next to me and "wait" - what have I ever done to deserve this? I just accept it and feel loved.
animals
If she could have someone else feed them honestly it would save her a bunch. The minimum I have seen places charge and I have moved around alot was 16 a night per animal. Sometimes if you can put 2 in the same cage they give you a small discount on one animal per cage.
what we will do for our animals. .
One year my cat just kept jumping up into the middle of the tree. . we came home from work several times with the tree in the floor. . we eventually anchored the tree to the floor AND ceiling. . . as he got older he got calmer. . I'm sad to say last Christmas was his last - he died in January at age 17. . . He was a good friend. .
Yup, just like animals, neither can they. LOL
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animals
I would do the samething, have two dogs that I love dearly which one is blind and has lived in the same house since she was a puppy, and still runs into the walls and things. It is so sad to see, so I would never do anything to make it any harder on her. Bless you for being so caring.
raw animals
The wild animal the dog kills wasn't raised on a factory farm under conditions favorable for salmonella epidemics, and wasn't force-fed antibiotics to cover the many diseases hens get when they live in such tight quarters.
Then again, the raw chicken is actual chicken, rather than "animal digest" or the other euphemisms the pet food industry uses to cover the miserable quality of their food (even the premium brands are just awful).
And just look at how animals
almost always hook up with another animal friend ... even natural enemies.
I guess if you are very social, you can get enough from other people and activities. I get drained too easily and so would rather have my mate than be alone.
how do you know that? Unfortunately animals
cannot tell us how they feel, not before and not after.
Poor animals!
A ''crate'' is just a nice term for a cage. How sad to cage a dog or cat.
You can only try. That is what we did with my son. His stuffed animals SM
were his worst nightmare allergy-wise.
I've had dogs with dry skin, but never were they were that miserable. I wonder if they make a doggie lotion that could help or if there is some type of herbal remedy like who knows what but some type of oil safe for doggie skin.
I have two black labs now and one puppy Yorkie. My older black labs gets some dry skin on his belly, but nothing too bad.
Don't give up. You'll find it!
All animals, pets or not are most definitely
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Thanks for that one. Animals rule!
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What is it with old stinky animals!
My old dog and old horse really do "smell like old people." They have a funk of their own when compared to the younger animals of same species, even though they are all completely healthy. I think it's just what happens, the why's and how's though, I am completely clueless about. I really have an especially soft spot for the ol' senior critters though.
social animals
Rodents, rats especially, are very very social animals and are intelligent and desire human contact. I've had 6 diff rats, all are passed away now cause they only last a few years, but they are very playful and will play with you and like to be held, petted and carried around. The more you do that the more friendly they get!
Have fun!
wild animals
My fiance used to live in a subdivision in our small town. . every night, possums and racoons came up on his back deck and looked through the sliding glass door at us while we were watching TV in the living room. . We enjoyed seeing them and sometimes we would put food out for them. .
I have to share this also because I think it is a once in a lifetime thing - yesterday we were walking on my fiance's farm and saw a deer giving birth. . we got to within about 35 yards of it. . We only watched for about 10 minutes because we could tell we were making it very nervous. . I hope they both do okay. .
for my animals -- YES absolutely!
i don't think its a bit crazy to CARE for your animals, and take care of them. Bless your heart!
fostering animals
Does anyone foster animals? I've been thinking of fostering a dog or cat and wonder what exactly is involved.
There are those that believe animals have souls-
I doubt they would find it ridiculous, though I do agree that this whole thread is ridiculous. The OP wanted to start a fire and she got it.
Animals very much desirable,
in your own homes, not running loose in the neighborhood. I have inside pets, they live longer inside anyway.
Like I said, I love most animals and have more than...
my fair share of them including a horse that is losing her teeth and anyone else would put down because it is very expensive to keep her around and very cheap to replace her at this point, but I just can't do it, as she is very healthy. I am just not such a cat person and I really hope that my husband does not bring on home, but if he did, I would expect it to stay outside. Terrible, I know, but that is just the way I am.
Antidepressants help some animals, too.
you can give the people the facts, but the decision making process should be left to the people
This is what our country is founded on FREEDOM OF CHOICE! I'm laughing already; you are just as mortal as the rest of us, and don' even attempt to that you've never done anything in your lifetime that was unsafe or unhealthy. NOT gonna buy it.
I do appreciate life and have respect for animals.
I just don't think they should be shoved in my face.
I agree - there are many children in stores who should be taken outside to be handled. However, people are NOT animals.
Unfortunately, most doglovers cannot appreciate this difference.
So even animals help decide our fate???
Where did you read this or learn about this? I've never heard that animals will speak for or against us on judgement day...interesting. Guess I'm in the clear, I don't do animals, don't own them, don't abuse them, don't like 'em!
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