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I think I agree with you - first amendment rights.

Posted By: freebie on 2008-01-14
In Reply to: Opinions about school suspension? - trose

Personally I would come down hard on the kid at home, but if I had to I would get ACLU to defend his right to say it.




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I am exercising my first amendment rights!!
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This is where the 2nd amendment comes in handy

Right. 1st amendment does not mean slander.
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nobody has taken your rights away...sm
however, I personally think you are wrong to think abortion is okay and that you don't believe in god. but that is none of my business either. I am not stopping you from doing what you want to do. But even though you do not believe in god, you must still have a conscience and know that killing another being is wrong. JMO. may god have mercy on your soul.
My rights

Okay, so the school takes the kids on a field trip to see the gay marriage of their teacher and this is a because the school considers it a learning experience?  And so, too bad to those people whose religion this goes against.  But if I were a teacher or ran a school and it was decided that we would be taking our children on a field trip to say a Christian church or maybe Israel where Jesus lived and died, you know totally as a learning experience and to teach them the history of a man that many people, even those who are not Christians, believed to have lived, there would be world wide riots!  Parents would be spitting mad, the school would be sued, it would be national news and I would be fired.  It would be againts people's beliefs and I would be "shoving my religion down their throats" and blah blah blah. 


Being gay is a sin.  I didn't come up with that God Our Father and Creator made that one up.  The Bible speaks VERY plainly about it many times.  Tolerance does NOT mean agreement.  Tolerance is NOT accepting something that is wrong.  Saying that it is wrong is NOT intolerance.  I dont think that someone who is gay should be shunned, beaten, publically humiliated.  That is tolerance. 


If you already have visitation rights. sm
Sounds like her rights to see her son are totally controlled by the dad.
You can but no one else can? Exercise those rights
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Gays have been trying to get rights
since the 1950's. Gays only want to be treated and have the same rights as heterosexuals. You have such hatred for gays that I feel sorry for you but then again, it is fear and ignorance that people such as yourself feel this way. There is a high suicide rate of gay children because of the bullying. We are no different than you and I can assure you we do not shove any type of agenda down your throats. I am sure you are the type that if your son or daughter came out to you, you would disown them. Now you tell me what kind of a parent is that? We pay our bills, taxes, own houses, etc., so what is so different from you and from me in daily living? So sad there are still homophobes this day and age.
What about 1st amend. rights of mom who posted
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Where are the rights of the child being told she has
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We are not talking about denying their rights. If anything

they would actually be getting more rights than heterosexual students because they would be getting a school designed for them.  Plenty of heterosexual high schoolers are harrassed and bullied and nowhere is there a school dedicated to serving these kids.  They are referred to counselors and support groups designed to teach them how to cope.  It's segregation pure and simple, only now it's a minority group segrating itself from society.  And let's not forget this isn't a private school where the homosexual students pay tuition, this is a public, state funded school.  The cost of running this "special" school comes out of the pockets of all taxpayers.  How is that fair?  If they want their own school, it should be a private school that requires them and their families pay a tuition. 


What about Gay Rights and FOCA (abortion) then?
hmmmm?

We can legalize Gays and Abortion but prostitution, pot, marijuana etc. (much lesser evils) should be "prosecuted heavily", oh come on .... It's all about "feeling good". If gays 'feel good' with each other and teenage moms 'feel good' to abort then what's your issue with pot or marijuana users? Don't they have a right to feel good with all the economic benefits for government?
He gave up his parental rights; end of story.
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It is in the not-so-distant past that women had very few rights! (sm)
My mother was sexually abused by her stepfather - it was the 60s - she went to the police and they told her to go home. She ran away from home and they took her back. She told family members and they told her to keep it quiet. She eventually somehow pressed charges and took him to court...and the judge told her to go home and forget about it.
Actually I have a very good tenants' rights BOOK - sm
from Nolo Law. Mentions everything but the kitchen sink - EXCEPT renovation evictions. STILL, now what am I supposed to do when applying for a new apartment? All the applications ask if you've been evicted, and yet having lived here so long, none of my previous landlords is even ALIVE. Do they have to tell a prospective landlord I've been kicked out, even if it wasn't for doing anything wrong (except for living here too long)?
Debbie Rowe's rights are intact -
A judge ruled that there was no psychological evaluation done of her when she gave the kids to Michael and dropped the custody case, so even though she gave up custody, her parental rights were not legally severed.

She will be the one to benefit from this situation unless somebody else pays her off again.
Debbie Rowe's rights are intact -
A judge ruled that there was no psychological evaluation done of her when she gave the kids to Michael and dropped the custody case, so even though she gave up custody, her parental rights were not legally severed.

She will be the one to benefit from this situation unless somebody else pays her off again.
The father has as much rights as the mother to make decisions....sm
about the child, gifts, etc. I know you want what is best for the child but it's really between your daughter and ex-son-in-law to discuss this. Even if your daughter doesn't want this, there's nothing she can do about it other than educate the child about how much candy to eat at once is appropriate.
read a Tenants Rights brochure for your answer
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Gays march for their rights to be involved with their long-time partners
health care should a drastic decision be made. It is usually a family member...even though we are the ones who take care of our partners when they are sick or dying. We fight for the right not to be thrown out of a shared house by the partner's parents. We want to honor our partner's wishes when they die as we are the ones who have spent years with them - not the family. These are just a few examples.

As far as your comment that we influence young people - that is absurd. All we want is to live our life and as pxmt said, be able to walk down the street without abusive comments, being assaulted, ridiculed, etc.

The school system is not segregating gay children - they are making it "gay friendly and teaching tolerance". Suicide is very high in gay children because of the parents who teach their children that it is evil and it is okay to bash a gay child. These schools are just trying to save the lives of young children.

As far as your comment that Christian's homes and churches are burned, sorry but I cannot recall one incident that I have read or saw on the news. Temples yes. As far as being assaulted for your beliefs, could it be because you stand in front of abortion clinics and gun down the doctors and nurses that come out or go into the clinic? Could it be that you bully the 15 and 16-year-olds who have been raped and want an abortion?

Sorry to say this, at least we (gays) are not violent and just want to be left alone.
What an awesome post! I agree, agree, agree completely with you.
You are right on the money in my book! 
I agree, try to live in another country, then you will also agree...nm
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absolutement! Agree! Agree! Agree!
Why is it so hard to understand this?  HMOs are just middlemen who get everything balled up and costly!
I agree with you - not judging either but agree (nm)
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and I agree with you *nn* -

I agree......
I agree with everyone's reply here. Also--one more thing...DO NOT TOUCH THE RADIO/CD PLAYER WHILE DRIVING!! It was 17 years ago that one of my best friends was killed this way-very responsible girl, just did not think for that one moment.

I was a responsible teen, but my parents set strict rules on my driving. At the time, I did not understand but now that I have a 10-year-old son who keeps reminding me each year that he will be driving in __ years, I understand completely. If it were an option for us, I would keep my kids babies forever.

Another thing you can do, just to maybe ease your mind about driving is take her to the local police department and have them to show actual footage of accidents. I know that sounds pretty harsh, but it has saved a lot of kids lives in my surrounding area.

Hope this helps!!
wow - I sure do agree with you!!....sm

I would rather them be locked in a car driving than strolling or walking alone - In Florida - we have had MANY YOUNG KIDS killed (murder) by being alone walking to and from school.  My children are VERY responsible and pay for everything, except that car insurance (which is wayyyyyyyyy too much) which I offered to pay until age 28.  By the age of 28, they'll be earning more $$.  My OLD brother (and he's very old *LOL*) did this for his son until age 28 (think he's about 38 now) because of the exhorbitant insurance rates.  I decided to follow suit.  If we have it, why shouldn't we help them.  I'd rather help my children while I'M ALIVE AND KICKING rather than what they get when I die, IF there is anything to get *LOL*


Y'all have a GREAT day! 


Remember, we can all agree to disagree without being nasty and rude. 


and I so agree with you!!!.....sm

One of my children saved all the Xmas/holiday/birthday $$ ever received from toddler-hood so that at 17 had $6000+ and put it down on a BRAND NEW SMALL CAR, albeit I had to co-sign the balance.  Child did pay the rest off.  I too am very proud of the children who are  young still, one has worked for 10 years already (started off part-time at about 14 after school by own choice).


Yep, I want kids to hang out in multiple numbers today - never walking alone - too many CREEPS out there in the USA today and they are EVERYWHERE....really creepy to me.........


Let's sing out for the responsible good kids who are out there trying to live life in this messed-up world!!!! 


HOORAY FOR THE CHILDREN!!!!  They are our future and if we don't back them, well then we are up the creek without a paddle, right?   


I agree...
Don't be too quick to judge! Last I knew car seats can be moved from one car to another! It's so sad that a few rotten apples out there ruin it for the people who really need the help! Hope you are never in a situation where you may need a little help.
I agree
Hey, Chillie, I love what you said.  It's time somebody did.  All this political correctness crap is getting to the point where it really offends me.  And I'm SOMEBODY, TOO!!!  Thanks.
It all goes to what you agree to when you take the job
If you take the job knowing that it involves working the holiday or the night of or the night before then it is your obligation to do so.  That is the way of this trade.   Then the days following the holiday we are "dead" and everyone is yelling for work.  Kind of like the hospitals, the police, the fire department, the stores half the time -- we all know what is expected when we accept the job.  If you knew that it was expected of you when you said yes -- then I think it is your obligation to work.  If you have your own accounts or are an IC then you have the right to say no but don't complain when nothing comes your way the day or two after the holoidays.  I chose to have my own accounts and some are open the day after Thanksgiving and so what I pick up on late Weds has to be back by early Friday and so somwhere in that timeframe I have to get it done.  I might have a few more hours to do it but also have a family and life so will squeeze it in.   Then Friday I will have what was dictated on Weds and have to work on over the weekend.  So you see you are not alone but this has been the way since I have been doing this, close to 20+ years.  Before that when I worked in office/clinics we were never closed for the Friday after Thanksgiving, saw patients until 6 on Weds, back at 8 on Friday.  Anway got things to do.  Patti
I agree
I was in management also and I was lucky in that there were only a certain few MTs that were very stubborn about not working holidays or flat out refused. Most were willing to compromise, maybe do one major holiday and have off the other, or even put in a few hours of their choice. It is those who refuse to work all holidays that can mess things up for everyone. For if everyone refused, what then? I guess it would then have to become mandatory???? Exactly!
I agree with you...
Even if the story you were told is true, there's still something not right about the situation.  Best to make sure your daughter's not in any danger, I'd do the same thing!  Good luck...I feel for the other family though...how hard would that be?
I agree...

My husband is far from dispensable!  He's my best friend too.  He's a wonderful father, husband, son, brother, everything!  We've been married for almost 20 years and I love and need him more today than I did in the beginning.  Men are getting an unfair wrap here...although I completely sympathize with the OP.  That's her situation, though, not every marriage comes down to that.


Like I said before (and my post was deleted for some reason) I am looking forward to growing old with my husband...raising grandchildren...hopefully finally getting to travel.  I do believe the best has yet to come for us!


I 100% agree.
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I agree
My friend and I went on a sugar free diet - it lasted 2 days. After numerous trips to the restroom, we both finally came to the conclusion that it was the sugar substitutes. Go for Splenda... After removing sugar substitues we had no more problems.
I agree and not only that - what about the

actions speak louder than words - if he wasn't guilty he would've stuck around..........would have had nothing to run from if he was innocent......and that's another thing - in the case, he was NOT found NOT GUILTY - he was found innocent by a reasonable doubt....(pssst - cause he's still guilty)...LOL


if it looks like a horse, smells like a horse, acts like a horse, it is not a swan! 


RIP Ron and Nicole......


I agree sm
If you take hungry men a meal of sand covered with some cheese, they are gonna say it is great.  It was very funny to me too.  I am a country fair blue ribbon winner.  Of course they are not gonna say this tastes awful.  I make the best blue ribbon potato salad.  I mean really, if you take hungry men anything, they are not gonna tell your husband it was mediocore, hungry men will eat almost anything.
I agree with you...
Your original intention was to "feel" out how others felt about your situation. You never argued with anyone who replied earlier with anything but thanks. Log off now, and forget about the rants and raves. I hope you have a good evening.
I agree
I have never been big on that with my kids, never felt comfortable with it even when they were much younger. As ridiculous as it may sound, I can remember finding out there was no Santa and I was incredibly upset that my parents lied to me. Christmas is not about Santa. Still bugs me. haha.
I don't agree with your vet.
When I finally saw my dog going through a partial seizure, she was definitely scared and in pain. Afterwards she almost stopped breathing. Hers were caused by a tumor, but in a young dog like yours, it is almost certainly epilepsy. I have a friend whose dog has epilepsy with terrible seizures, and now he's on medication and only has 1 seizure a month. They are all much happier. If I were you I'd change vets because I'd be worried the seizures were causing brain damage.
I agree, but...
not everyone can multitask.  Fortunately, it is nice to be able to simultaneously do laundry and type at the same time.  No one should be sitting in front of a PC for 8 hours straight.  You have to get up and stretch, so why not switch the clothes from washer to dryer, or catch the news or have a cup of tea for a few minutes.  If you were inhouse, you would be at the water cooler.  Working at home is a privilege, but even people who work inhouse take advantage.  I have seen where fellow employees are taking personal phone calls, balancing their checkbook, making appointments, asking others opinions regarding personal issues, etc.  Lighten up!!!!  You will either be diligent or not off-site or not...  No one can type and clean at the same time, but it sure makes it easier to dust your living room, and then go type for a while....  Oh my!  That is why I love this board! 
I agree
For the first year or two I went to an accountant he was very helpful.  But then after  I realized that I was doing 80% of his work for him and I do understand taxes quite well, I bought Turbo Tax and for the past 10 to 12 years have used Turbo Tax.  You have to figure out how much sq ft your office is versus your house to find the percentage you get to take off for mortgage payment. utilities, etc.  Also he will let you know what the pros and cons are for depreciating your home.  Since I figure on dying here -- and not in the near future -- I have been using the depreciation.  If you use your car for any mileage related to your business, supplies, delivering, banking you can take that off.  Ask him about setting up a SEP fund -- self employment pension fund -- even if you only contribute 5 to 10% that helps to bring down what you pay SSN, every dollar helps.  Good luck, once he does it for you then you can use last year guidelines for how to do it.  
I agree 100%
I also suffered from HPV and had to endure 4 colposcopies as well as a LEEP procedure. If this had been available when I was younger, I would have gotten the vaccine. There is always risk to these types of things and it is a matter of personal preferance as to what you choose to do.
I agree. sm

And it was even worse in the days of pay toilets what we had to endure. 


 


I remember sitting there broken heated.


Paid a dime and only farted.


I agree as with the others

Definitely don't get tempted on the business trip, and if he wants you he needs to get rid of the other one. 


It is really easy to cheat on a business trip and come home to the wife/steady girlfriend like nothing happened (for some anyway).


I agree with everyone here and I have --sm
been in your shoes too, in the past. Only thing is that I was not mature enough way back then to keep business separate from *high school feelings* and the only one that got hurt was me. I felt not so bright in the head, and *cheap* afterwards.

He is still in his present relationship for a reason and since it seems so easy for this man to forget that, I would stay WAY clear of him! (gotten smarter in my old age). IF he leaves his present girlfriend, which I seriously doubt, then MAYBE, but also keep in mind that he was willing to step out of bounds on that relationship to see what could be done with you, and I would almost bet this is not the first time, so if things ever got serious between the two of you....how easy would it be for him to do it to you after 7 years or so?

It just seems so easy for a man to change his life like he changes his pants every day with no qualms about who he hurts in the process. Keep your dignity...don't do it. Just my 2 cents. good luck to you!
Agree with you

A lot of teens are going to have sex before marriage.  My 17-year-old daughter came to me last fall about wanting to go on the pill.  She is in her first serious relationship, so I took her.  I had a pregnancy scare in high school and it was not fun and I was very honest with her about that. 


My daughter is not getting the vaccine because it is too new and I don't think anyone knows the long-term problems that could come from it.  Hopefully by the time my daughter is having this discussion with her daughter, it will either have been proven safe or pulled off the market, but my daughter is not going to be a guinea pig.


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I agree.
A broken heart can kill you, if not dramatically reduce your zest for life. I know a woman whose teenage son died of suicide. She still visits his grave everyday. This has been over 12 years ago. She said if it was not for her other other, she would have died.
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