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I put *warning, graphic* in the subject field, but apparently it didn't show up. nm

Posted By: Just me on 2006-11-06
In Reply to: I don't want to compare war stories, but I know exactly how you feel. Last year, on my way to vis - Just me

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She didn't say "who" in the subject line, only "he"...sm
with Sanjaya being not the only guy left the "he" could have been any of the guys.
my BF and I started voting for everybody except him, apparently didn't help much. We just kept ca
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If the lady had this doll at a yard sale, apparently it didn't mean that much to her. sm
and maybe the mom said to her daughter that anything at the yard sale is for sale at any price - she just wants to get rid of it. You shouldn't judge unless you know all the facts.
dont you guys think she should have just not even brought the subject up? its a touchy subject at
that age. i think she knew she would be openning up a can of worms.  the children who dont believe made fun of the ones who do...right in the classroom...during this very scary time of bullying in schools....she just really changed things for us 2 weeks before christmas...very upset.
I didn't see the show
if it isn't too much trouble, could you tell me just a little more about "The Secret"
Oops pic didn't show. Here goes again....sm
Here we go:
I'm hooked on this show. Was surprised it didn't

oops, link didn't show up
here's the link to the place to ask cat health/food questions.

http://itchmoforums.com/
I so didn't understand this show...people homeless

and plasma TVs - people who are homeless need HOMES.....not expensive electronics.......I so didn't understand this show.....I saw the guy say *I lost everything, my home and absolutely everything* and then Robin/Phil give him a plasma TV....sheesh...........


 


Please correct my catch a shoe to catch a show - didn't proof first
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I hope this isn't too graphic but sm
does anyone here suffer from any abdominal problems that are related to sitting for long periods?  Lately I have had all this bloating and gas and it feels like  sometimes my abdominal is really tight.  The longer I sit, the more uncomfortable it gets.  Doesn't really hurt, just feels really full and distended.  When I get up and move around or take a day off, it gets better but comes back when I sit for a long time. Lots of constipation too. Its driving me nuts!  Feels like I am going to explode sometimes.  Anybody got any ideas?  I do have some GI problems i.e. chronic pancreatitis so I know that could be part of it.  But I have had that for about 12 years and this just started a few months ago and got worse when I went back to work, just from the sitting for long periods.
Yeh, pretty graphic now
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There is a link to that video somewhere on the net. Quite graphic.
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Graphic? ROTFL! Not, but sounds like IBS...sm
...and your pancreatitis. But that's just a WAEG. Best get to a doctor and hopefully get a definitive diagnosis! Your condition must be the miseries!
Graphic compared to the stuff we type every day??
NOT!

Is it possible you've become more lactose-intolerant over the years? You could always give some of those OTC products a try; the names escape me right now. I developed a (thankfully short) bout of lactose intolerance once after a bad case of the stomach flu....

Other than that, just getting up and moving around a little more often might help.

And depending on whether the gas is upper or lower... when I have upper gas and indigestion, my favorite remedy is to sip ginger allergy and pace the floor. Those measures seem to help me burp which then make me feel better.

Good luck and I hope YOU feel better!
My feathered BRAT -- might be kinda graphic but funny too

Sitting here trying to post and work all day, with Tooki (AKA as MS Paris Hilton BOID) -- routine is AHH mom is out of bed -- " I can SCREAM for attention"  -- this is while "mom" is in the bathroom being female etc, getting water for coffee  -- k -- coffee on, outside for first cig (for mom) of the day, boid on shoulder, LARGE POOP on pavement, table or tree (sorry)  -- after that, its treats and cuddle on moms shoulder for about 30 minutes. 


We then come back in the house and mom does her computer clean up which is daily  -- getting coffee ready and at this point, Tooki is trying to climb on the bed, then up on the headboard, and last trick if the blinds aren't open, we try to climb up them and chew them up in the process.


Mommy and daddy bought me a swinging perch from Santa Bird, but I HATED it in my cage, so what daddy did, was take my perch and put it in the door and with the perch in the door chain, I will climb on the perch, then the door chain and the front door. 


My favorite thing though is to be in the tree right outside my door, and I have a "wild bird bud -- I think he is a blue jay and my "mom" says he's  NOT my type -- I'm a sun conure after all, but with the cold weather here in Florida, mommy tries to make sure all of my "buds" are taken care of.


I know one thing, -- IM ALL GOIL and spoiled rotten!!!!


Love Tooki


 


 


 


 


Don't bother getting into this field

your not going to make any money working for a company.  The only way to make money is to own a business, and just starting out can be very expensive.


There are many of us trying to get out of this field for various reasons - mainly the BS that companies give us. 


Oh Boy! Field Trip! nm
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Sally Field
I was just noticing Sally Field's hair on TV the other day - I think it looks good on her. . I kinda like longer hair - mine doesn't grow that much so I don't have as many options as some people.
the field trip?
I dont know.  I wrote that in response to a thread below that talked about it.  I do know that in this day and age any time a Christian tries to speak out about their beliefs, we are condemned.  If a Christian wants their rights upheld, we are told that we shouldnt try to shove our religion down others throats.  We cannot pray in school if we want.  They take God out of the pledge of allegience because it is offensive to others.  Well taking him out is offensive to ME.  Our country was founded on a basic belief in God.  We were God fearing people and there was NOT tolerance for things that went against him.  But we have had political correctness shoved down our throats for so long that what used to be wrong is now right.  We have become desensitized to sin.  But God did say that this would happen and that in the end days his followers would be treated this way in his name.  So I guess that is fine with me.  I will always stand up for my Saviour, Jesus Christ, and I will always try to tell people about what he did for them, no matter how bad of a reaction or treatment I get. 
You ask about 1 thing and others go off in left field
I have known this man for 33 years now- he was my friend before my husband. The person who talked about still waters running deep is right on with the kind of man my husband is. I know where he was born, where he has lived, his family and most of all I know his heart and what a heart! He is the most perfect man I think I have ever met- including my father and brother- kind, considerate, thoughful, prayful, hard-working. He brings me things home because "he was just thinking about me." I can reach him even at work 24/7. He does not drink, does not smoke, is respectful, loving, married late in life, no other wives, no other children. He is a thinker, a doer and the kind of man anyone would love to have. Most who know me tell me I am extremely lucky, even my 86-year-old aunt said she wished she had met him first- I would have had a run for my money! Here an older southern white woman saying he is right up at the top of her list for people she likes! She is an aunt I always went to for advice- looks like she is still right in her thoughts. To make an issue about my not knowing where he went to school or how much school is such a minute thing for me- I have riches untold just for him being in my life and I give thanks quite a bit to above.
I remember my dad embarrassing me on the field (sm)
This was a different era, I played in the late 70s and early 80s... and there was a lot of drinking in the stands!  We lived very close to the ballpark and my dad would walk to my game with a cocktail.  I didn't really think about the drinking part back then, but looking back now I realize that is what was happening.  But I will never ever forget my dad running right onto the field and yelling and pushing the umpire.  He embarrassed me many times.  And yes the other kids noticed and it was brought up at school.  And guess what?  I played in high school and college and even in a semi-pro league and once I was in control of getting my own self to games I never even gave him a schedule because I'd rather he just not go to the games.  I'm a coach now and I can kind of help the kids along with parents get out of hand, but there are certain parents I wish would get kicked out!  Please just enjoy the game for what it is.. a time in your child's life he/she will never forget (good or bad). 
We are all in the same field - just get along for crying out loud!

Why such a division?  The bottom line is that we all just want to communicate with people in the same field of work.  This does not give anyone the right to slam the "other board" or certain people.  Sounds like some of you just need to get a life.


How much money would you give towards this field trip....sm

16-year-old comes in from school today and says the drama teacher has invited the 3rd and 4th year drama classes to go to New York in March for a week to see shows and tour the city.  Supposedly the cost would be around $700, including airfare from Atlanta, lodging, meals, tickets to shows, etc.  I asked what fundraisers were going to be held and she had no idea if any would be.   Personally I don't see how they can do the trip to include meals, travel, hotels, shows, etc. for just $700 a person and am presuming that's going to be around the amount that would be proposed to the students to pay after fundraisers are done. 


My daughter asked how much I'd contribute to the cause. 


She doesn't work and doesn't drive (scared to learn so we don't push it - don't want her to drive if she doesn't want to). 


She is a good student.


I told her first off that she would also need to get a job because we're not going to pay all of this ourselves and take away the money from the family vacation for next year (we do a family budget of $1000 for vacations and that's for 4 of us). 


We're not rich but do put "x" amount of money into the savings account each month as we want to move to a different area in a couple of years. 


So.... how much do you think we should require her to raise herself and how much should we pay?   I was thinking that maybe to contribute $200 would be plenty generous and let her get a part-time job after school/weekends to raise the rest + spending money.  Do you think I'm being a cheapskate for that or do you think it's a fair amount? 


Marching on the field at band camp ...sm
it was my freshman year of high school. One of the adult volunteers heard it on the radio, ran to the band director crying and insisted that he stop the practice because of the news.
Back in the 1970s my dad call me outside. Over the field in
front of our house was a large orange ball just sitting in the sky. A couple of neighbors came over and we watched it for over 30 mins, it just sat/hung there and then finally just disappeared. To this day we have no idea what it was.
Field trip to see lesbian wedding

First-graders in San Francisco took a field trip to City Hall to celebrate the marriage of their lesbian teacher on Friday, but opponents of same-sex marriage in the state say the field trip was an attempt to “indoctrinate” the students, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.


The field trip was suggested by a parent at the Creative Arts Charter School, and the school said the trip, where students tossed rose petals on their teacher and her wife as they left City Hall, was academically relevant.


"It really is what we call a teachable moment," said Liz Jaroslow, the school’s interim director, according to the newspaper. She said same-sex marriage had historic significance. "I think I'm well within the parameters."


California will vote on Nov. 4 on Proposition 8 which seeks to ban same-sex marriage in the state, and supporters of the measure say the field trip shows that allowing same-sex marriage will mean it’s taught to school children, the newspaper said.


"It's just utterly unreasonable that a public school field trip would be to a same-sex wedding," said Chip White, press secretary for the Yes on 8 campaign, told the Chronicle. "This is overt indoctrination of children who are too young to have an understanding of its purpose."


Yes being in this field and/or having had chronic "mystery" health problems (sm)
You do quickly learn that physicians are only human and they don't know everything. We really have to take a lot of responsiblity for our own health and that of our family members who may not have the same knowledge. We do not know as much as physicians know about medicine, but we know more than they do about our own bodies and our family members and we just might have the insight they need to put together a diagnosis.

Good for you for writing to them!
What is the MOST outrageous thing you've seen/heard while working in the medical field?
While working in an oncology office I had a heartbreaking conversation with a newly-widowed young mother of 2. Apparently healthy husband suddenly turned up with a brain tumor, which killed him pretty quickly. The life insurance company did their due diligence and investigated the case, since the policy was issued only weeks before the diagnosis; but the patient had NO indications of illness at the time, and the medical records basically proved the negative; he hadn't been to a doctor because he wasn't sick.

In the course of discussing the point with the claims examiner, the widow told him it wasn't about the money (although she was going to need it to raise her 2 kids by herself). She'd FAR rather have her husband back. The claims examiner said he'd far rather have the woman's husband back too...

... wait for it ...

... because if he were still alive, he'd still be paying premiums to the insurance company!

Yes, it really happened.

I suggested the widow contact the state insurance commissioner's office and report the guy. Even if what he said/did was not precisely illegal, it was WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.
Warning - this is sad and somewhat discouraging

This has been a terrible and tragic week for our town.  A first grader that goes to my son's school was killed last Friday when he was crossing his street to go home after he had chased after his dog.  It happened right after school and a bus load of children were there to witness this scene.  Then, just 3 days later a former teacher of my daughter lost her 24-year-old son in a car accident. The accident was caused by another driver who crossed the center line.  They were both killed. 


My daughter just came home from the funeral home and is understandably very upset.  She went with her older cousin who also had this teacher and went to school with her son.  My daughter is 16 and has been begging me to allow her to get her permit, which I have been putting off due to the fact that I am terrified of the whole driving thing with her.  I lost a very close friend in high school due to a car accident, which is probably part of the reason.  I also know at least 3 people who have lost their young children to car accidents.  When she was telling me about his mother hugging her tight and not letting go tonight, I broke down into tears and told her that I didn't want her to drive, that I was scared.  So, now she has stormed upstairs and both of us are in tears.  I just don't know what to do.  I know I can't keep her from driving forever.  I just feels 16 and 17 year olds are simply not mature enough.  My boys are 8 and 4 and I know someday I will face this with them to and go through the same thing.  


She came down a bit ago and I told her that I wasn't saying she couldn't get her license, but that I was just worried and didn't feel she was quite ready yet.  Am I completely wacko or are these normal feelings for parents of driving-aged kids?


Warning: spoilers

That's an interesting thought - about Ben using the smoke monster to spy on people. It has also been used to kill people (Mr. Eko) so it's pretty powerful. But then, Ben doesn't seem to hesitate to kill when it serves his purpose.


I don't trust Juliette - I think they left her behind as a spy. And from the previews, so does Sayid. Maybe we will find out a little more next week (ha!).


Wasn't it interesting that Kate met up with Sawyer's ex-GF? So many connections that the other people don't know about - Sawyer meeting Jack's dad, Claire being Jack's half-sister....


And what about Sun's pregnancy? I know it's early days yet, but surely she should have morning sickness or something, just to remind people that she is pregnant.


I think Nikki at least (and maybe Paolo) got out of the grave and covered it back up so the others wouldn't know they're alive. For what purpose, I don't know....but somehow I don't think we've seem the last of them.


 How pathetic is my life that I spend so much time thinking about a TV show???


 


Another warning about windows being down
I had a friend whose husband had the passenger's side window down and the dog was in the front seat.  He was on a leash, but he tried to get some fresh air (small dog as well), he slipped and fell out of the window and was hung by the leash when the husband (while driving) tried to "yank" him back in.  He has never gotten over it.  Another word to the wise - I wonder if this could be just as much of a distraction as talking on a cell phone while driving.  If I had a dog, I think he/she would be in the back seat, and I would literally treat him/her more like a child and belt the animal in to be safe.  Sorry to hear of the loss in your life.  It must have been devastating. 
Warning: gross

Sometimes when I've popped a really big one, that night I will dream about little white worms coming out of my skin.


Yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck!


Singulair warning
I wanted to let people know about my experience with Singulair for my 7-1/2-year-old son. He started taking it in mid September after his first asthma attack in several years. We started noticing that his behavior was getting out of control, matching symptoms of oppositional defiance disorder. He told me he wished he had never been born, and once when he was raging, he threatened to chop my toes off with a hatchet. I have been completely stressed by all of this, and it has caused great stress in my marriage. We unexpectedly stayed out of town for a couple of days and did not give him the Singulair, and unbelievably his behavior began to be more normal. Since then, I have found out about many other instances of children having psychiatric disorders caused by Singulair, some even to the point of committing suicide, and my nephew has also just been taken off of this medication due to behavioral problems. I know that not very person will have such severe side effects, but in our case, we will not ever give this to him again. It has been almost a week since he stopped Singulair, and I am so grateful to have my little boy back to being himself.
fair warning!!!! :)
The Wii is a blast! We bought one last year. Last week I bought Dance Dance Revolution 2 for it. It is extremely hard even on beginner! It will literally wear you out and if you are as out of shape as I am, plan on being very sore! LOL I really do like the Wii and plan on getting the fit later this summer. For us, it's something the entire family loves, except the b/f refuses to do the Dance Dance Revolution. LOL

Congrats on your quitting smoking! We are starting that as well. My b/f just started the Nicoderm patch. If he doesn't have too many side effects from it and it seems to work okay, I'm going to start it in a few weeks. I'm currently just cutting back right now. Cigarettes are getting so darn expensive. Marlboro are over $5 a pack and the fed tax increase of $0.62 starts April 1st. Illinois is trying to pass $1 tax on top of that. Pretty soon it's gonna be $7 for a pack of cigarettes. We've had enough.

Sorry to ramble! :)

Good luck to everyone quitting!
Warning. Technique inside.
He would lay down, grab is nuts in his mouth and kick his leg (like he was scratching) until the deed was done. How he first figured this out, who knows!!!  LOL
Halloween candy warning

 HALLOWEEN CANDY RECALLED


There is a new warning put out by the Canadian Food Inspection
 Agency....

Sherwood brand Pirate's Gold Milk Chocolate coins are being
recalled due to the fact that they contain Mel amine, the ingredient in milk
product that has caused many infant deaths in china. These candies are
sold at Costco, as well as many bulk and dollar stores. please make sure to
check your childrens halloween candy and DO NOT LET THEM EAT THE
PIRATE COINS (you know the ones wrapped in the shiny gold foil) and
please let other parents know about this!


 


I missed the show but yesterday on her show
a couple of brothers came in and gave money to the family. Sorry I don't have more info, but like you, I do love the show. The brothers tried to give some of the credit to Oprah but she wouldn't take it. She really wanted the brothers to get all the credit.
Neighbor. son, problem (warning: long)

I have a neighbor with a 6-year-old boy.  The little boy is an only child and lives an extremely structured lifestyle with some sort of activity scheduled every night, i.e. soccer, church group, Boy Scouts, etc.  The little boy gets very little unstructured time to play with the children in the neighborhood, but when he does he is constantly demanding the children play on his terms and tattles on the children constantly, even when they truly did nothing wrong. 


 


However, here’s the problem….some of the children in the children are older, ranging from 4th  to 7th in this particular group.  Whenever the little boy is around the older children are constantly being reprimanded by his mother to play with him and play with him “nicely,” as she puts it.  This particular group of boys (one, of course, being my son) try to include him as much as possible, but they do get annoyed with this tattling and his mother, so they usually take off down the road or something to skateboard, etc.  Now, the problem has become mine because evidently I get to hear every morning and every afternoon about something one of the children did.  She has gone as far as to reprimand me prior for not standing outside during playtime and not forcing my children to be involved in the church group.  In my defense, I am widowed with 2 children who are 8 and 10 and through the 10-year-old’s counselor (the counselor is not for behavior but for dealing with his father’s death and guy things, etc) I have been told that I am to allow them more freedom and not to be under foot all the time.  Nevertheless, the truth is that I am sick of being told how to parent and judged constantly.  I have spoken to my son on several occasions in private, but it has gotten to the point now that every single day there is something, in her eyes, that my son has said or done that offends her son.  Yesterday, it was my son said “that guy acts gay” and she gave me a huge lecture on this.  Well, I certainly did not teach him that and I know for a fact he truly does not even know the full meaning of this, but she just condemned me up and down for this.  I know that children learn a lot of things at school and have no true meaning of their content, but does she not think this same thing will happen to her at one point?  I am at the point where I think it would be best if she just did not allow her son to be around the kids at all if there is nothing she likes anyhow.  She is always making comments, etc. and I am just tired of being reprimanded for children being children.


 


 I feel like a total failure and just this second, as I am crying this and typing this, she called and left a message “I just wanted you to know that my son is Star Student of the Week and even though your son barely pays any attention to him at all, he still wants to bring a picture of him to show his classmates.  Isn’t he just the sweetest child you know?”  This is transcribed verbatim.  Please tell me how to handle this neighbor and make nice, because right now I am depressed and angry at the same time.  My son is a good boy, although he does do things I may not be particularly thrilled about, but he is a boy and trying to grow up.  He is not racist, he does snot discriminate, does not break the law.  He is trustworthy and respectful to adults and I get compliments all the time about what a good kid he is, so why is it that I feel terrible about failing him as a mother at this point?  I just do not want to constantly reprimand my son for saying something she thinks is inappropriate or mean, nor do I wish her to do that with my child.  Suggestions, please!!!!!! 


I've had problems with security warning pop-ups...

and no matter what I change my settings to, I still get them.  There is no "Don't snow this again" option either. I get them while working on a Sten-Tel platform.  It really slows me down, as I have to do some things several times before they actually go through.  It also adds another toolbar...just what we all need.  That just cuts down the viewable size on your monitor. 


I tried to get IE6 back, which you can't do even with a system restore, but then read about the mandatory automatic "upgrade" so quit trying to get rid of IE7.  Hopefully they may issue some fixes. 


Should formula cans have a warning that it's better to breastfeed

Read this article in a Parenting magazine. It's NOT a debate or question to which is best.


Should formula cans have a warning that it's better to breastfeed


While I am a big believer in Breastfeeding, I would never make anyone feel guilty for formula feeding. It's any mother's choice as to what is best for them and the baby. I personally could never have worked and breastfed at the same time!


46% said Yes 54% said No.


Small dog owners Please Read my warning

Yesterday, a lady was driving down our hill with her little doxie in the front seat of the van. I don't think the dog was even a year old yet. Anyway, she sideswiped a telephone pole which put her out of control, her airbags went off, and she couldn't see with all that white powder flying around, and she wound up in a drainage ditch. When the airbags went off, they struck her dog and killed him. Although our neighbor is a nurse and tried CPR, the poor thing had broken ribs which probably punctured his lungs.


So, what I'm saying is if you're going to take your dog for rides, please put them in the back seat, preferably with doggie seat belts, not the front seat.  I could barely sleep last night over this.  I feel so bad for the poor dog. It didn't have to happen. The lady was so upset over it and feeling so guilty, it took us over 2 hours to get her calmed down.


Severe warning about dangerous dog-toys!!

I came across this blog today on Craigslist:  http://www.thechaistory.blogspot.com/


And if you have a dog, it's a must-see.  It details what happened to a dog that was severely injured by a dog toy called a "Pimple Ball" made by Four Paws, Inc.  The dog ended up losing his tongue, and the pain he had to endure was excruciating. 


The dog's owner relates that the Four Paws Co. hasn't owned up to the fact that its toy is dangerous, and he's calling for a international boycott of Four Paws, Inc.  After watching his video links of his poor dog's suffering, even though I have cats, I plan to be sure I don't purchase ANYTHING from this company, andhopefully you won't either.



 


Important addendum to rabies warning below:

(Aaaaggghhh!!!  Somebody just SHOOT me!!!) 


I guess I'm going to be changing veterinarians soon.... here's an update to the post below:


The oral pain/anti-inflammatory my cat was prescribed (which thank God I didn't give her without researching it!), is "Metacam" (meloxicam) oral suspension.  The article below is from the rescue where I got my cat.  Thank goodness I checked their website just now! 


I was wrong about her vomiting BEFORE we went to the vet.  It was last night, which was about 8-10 hours AFTER being given one dose of Metacam p.o.  (This was an off-label treatment, as the oral suspension is for DOGS.)  Since it was given in the vet's office directly into her mouth, and she weighs less than 10 lbs.,  she most likely had an OVERDOSE, which is why she vomited up her dinner in every room of the house lase night.  The drug had been prescribed to help bring down the inflammation in the area of her lesion and fluid aspiration.   But among other things, this drug can cause kidney failure in cats.  "No, thanks!"   I lost a cat to renal failure a few years back, and it took me 3 years to pay off the over $5,000 in vet bills I'd put on my MasterCard!  And the cat still had to be put down, anyway. 


So, here I've been spending the morning researching veterinary literature, checking my pet-insurance coverage limits, and biting my nails about the possible damage I might have done to my cat simply by trying to keep her up-to-date on her shots.   I'm just about to change my pet-care-policy to "no more shots and no more meds"!


Here's the article:


Metacam Risks in Cats


What is Metacam?


Metacam ® is the veterinary brand name for meloxicam,,a


non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID)used to reduce


pain and inflammation.This article deals with two versions:


Metacam Solution for Injection (for cats)and Metacam Oral


Suspension (for dogs).


Metacam ’s FDA Approval Status


Metacam Solution for Injection was approved for one-time


use only in cats on 28 Nov 2004 (NADA 141-219).Metacam


Oral Suspension was approved for dogs only on 15 Apr 2003


(NADA 141-213).As of July 2006,the approval status of both


medications has not changed.


There is a misconception that using medications in a non-


FDA-approved fashion is illegal.This is simply not so;the FDA


regulates drug manufacturers,not the practice of veterinary


medicine.Veterinarians may prescribe any drugs they have


reason to believe are safe and effective,even if the particular


use is not FDA approved (this practice is known as "off-label "


or "extralabel " use)).However,you and your cat do not have


any FDA assurance that the drug is safe and effective.


Common uses of Metacam in Cats


Metacam is commonly used in cats for two cases:


(a)Metacam Solution for Injection (or simply "Metacam


Injection ")is used to provide post-operative relief of pain and


inflammation for up to 24 hours following procedures such as


dentistry,spaying and neutering.Vets often prescribe a few


daily follow-up doses of Metacam Oral for continued pain


relief,although this is not an FDA approved use.


(b)Metacam Oral Suspension (or simply "Metacam Oral ")is


often prescribed to relieve arthritis pain in cats.Although this


is also not an FDA approved use,it is known to be effective,


albeit with some risk.


Low Safety Margin =Higher Risks


According to the manufacturer ’s product sheet 1 ,Metacam has


a narrow margin of safety (also known as therapeutic index )


in cats,meaning that there is very little difference between a


safe,effective dose and a toxic dose.Repeated doses of


Metacam Oral in cats have been known to result in death,as


documented in the clinical tests 3 submitted to the FDA.


The narrow safety margin in cats is reflected in the FDA ’s


Adverse Drug Experience (ADE)reports 4 for Metacam Oral,


which summarize drug side effects reported by veterinarians.


Of 842 reports for dogs,19 cases of kidney failure and no


deaths were reported.However in 320 cats,105 cases of


kidney failure,48 deaths and 35 cases resulting in euthanasia


have been reported.This clearly indicates that Metacam poses


a much greater risk in cats than in dogs.


The use of Metacam poses not only a significant health risk to


the cat,but also exposes the cat owner to significant financial


risk.The treatment of kidney failure requires days of hospitalization,


and the outcome may be death.Whether the cat survives or


not,the hospital bill can easily exceed $1,000.


Because of Metacam ’s narrow safety margin,veterinarians


will order blood tests to check your cat ’s kidney and liver


functions and general state of health.Don ’t try to save money


by refusing these tests;it ’s essential to know if your cat is at


greater risk.Should side effects occur,your vet is likely to


order another round of tests to check the drug ’s impact on


your cat.Be prepared for these costs.


Problems with Smaller Cats


The post-surgical use of Metacam Oral in smaller cats (under


10 lbs.)poses a unique problem.The product sheet for Metacam


Oral 2 warns against administering the drug directly into the


mouth for dogs weighing less than 10 lbs,as this may cause


an accidental overdose.Instead,it must be mixed with food to


ensure slower absorption.The Metacam Injection used during


surgery may cause loss of appetite,and the cat won ’t eat his


oral dose.So you ’re likely to try to administer the dose directly


into the mouth,but if your cat weighs less than 10 lbs.(and


many do),this only increases the risk of overdose.


Questions for your Vet


Given the clearly documented risks of Metacam Oral in cats,it


is wise to ask your veterinarian the following questions if he or


she recommends its use:


 Are my cat ’s blood tests (especially liver &kidney functions)OK?


 What side effects should I look out for?


 Under what conditions should I discontinue the medication?


 Who do I call on evenings or weekends if my cat has a reaction?


 Is there a 24-hour emergency animal hospital in the area?


 May I have copies of the Metacam product sheets?


 Persians are a more delicate breed,are you sure this is safe?


 My cat weighs less than 10 pounds,are you sure this is safe?


 What other pain medications are FDA-approved in cats?


 What pain medications were you using prior to Metacam Oral ’s


release in 2003?


 Are these medications safer and/or cheaper than Metacam?


Conclusion


There are clearly documented risks associated with the off-


label use of Metacam Oral in cats which may lead to kidney


failure and death.These risks should be carefully discussed


with your veterinarian before proceeding with any Metacam


treatment.For post-operative pain relief,explore other alternatives


with your veterinarian before agreeing to the use of Metacam.


Acronyms


ADE Adverse Drug Experience


FDA The United States Food and Drug Administration


NADA New Animal Drug Application


References


[1 ]Product sheet:Metacam Solution for Injection for Cats


Boehringer Ingelheim Vetmedica,Inc.(revised October 2004)


http://www.bi-vetmedica.com/product_sites/METACAMINCats/documents/Metacam_Cat_RP.pdf


[2 ]Product sheet:Metacam Oral Suspension for Dogs


Boehringer Ingelheim Vetmedica,Inc.(revised January 2005)


http://www.bi-vetmedica.com/product_sites/METACAMORAL/documents/Metacam_Oral_Susp_rp.pdf


[3 ]Freedom of Information Summary for Supplemental NADA 141-219


(Metacam 5 mg/mL Solution for Injection for cats),28 October 2004


FDA Center for Veterinary Medicine


See "Tolerance Study in Cats on Meloxicam ",pp.24-26


http://www.fda.gov/cvm/FOI/141-219s102804.pdf


[4 ]Adverse Drug Experiences (ADE)Report,9 June 2006


FDA Center for Veterinary Medicine


See "meloxicam oral ",pp.48-64


http://www.fda.gov/cvm/Documents/ade_web_rpts_MN.pdf


Metacam ® is a registered trademark of Boehringer Ingelheim Vetmedica,,Inc.


 


 


Braces...Warning...there's a rant a'commin
I HATE THEM!!! I'm about to call the orthodontist and tell him I've given up, my teeth are just fine now and I WANT THEM OFF!!! I'm so sick of worrying about staining my teeth. I've become "obsessive" about brushing. I hate the fact that I'm constantly "tonguing" them and worried about having stuff stuck in them. I don't smile anymore. I don't like to go in public. HATE pictures cuz I don't smile with my teeth and I look like a moron when I smile with my mouth shut. I miss my baby carrots and broccoli. Sandwiches are absolutely impossible. Just all in all a horrible experience and I wish I never would have gotten them...

Sorry and thank you for your time...lol
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I grew up in CT. Would give anything to live in New England, but husband won't. Then again I would not put him close to my family (its bad enough they drive me insane HA HA). Now that I think of it, not sure I'd want to live that close either. HA HA I've gotten use to our privacy. (we won't even live close to his family so at least its fair) :-) We've lived in Germany, CO, CA, AZ, CA (again), VA, CA (again) WA, CA (again), NV, WA (again), and now OR. We've lived enough placed to know what we like and what we don't (and made some mistakes of moving back to places that once we got there said...why in the world did we move to this state again). Sounds like we would love AK, but after some more serious discussions doubt we will get to move there. Hubby still trying to find a job so going to look locally. I just saw different job opportunities in AK and wondered what it would be like to live there. I will always be a New Englander at heart, but you just gotta live where there is work. Thanks.
Who saw the Lost seasone finale? (warning: spoilers)

I can't believe Charlie really died. For a good cause, okay, and he was never my favorite character, but I feel really sorry for Claire.


And what do these people want, these ones on the frieghter? Obviously from Jack's "flash forward", leaving the island now is not a good idea. Why? What does Ben know? Who sent the ship? Penny's father?


It's beginning to look like Locke has a point about not leaving the island. Maybe they are meant to be there. Maybe there is something that they can only accomplish toether. But what?


Hurley was so cool, coming to the rescue in his VW bus. Go Hurley!!


Other thoughts or speculations?


Aqua Dots toys contain poison - a warning.

Millions of toys recalled; contain 'date rape' drug


Two U.S. children went into comas after swallowing Chinese-made Aqua Dots found to contain a chemical that converts into 'date rape' drug when ingested.






WASHINGTON (AP) -- Millions of Chinese-made toys have been pulled from shelves in North America and Australia after scientists found they contain a chemical that converts into a powerful date rape drug when ingested. Two children in the United States and three in Australia were hospitalized after swallowing the beads.


With only seven weeks until Christmas, the recall is yet another blow to the toy industry - already bruised by a slew of recalls this past summer.



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In the United States, the toy goes by the name Aqua Dots, a highly popular holiday toy distributed by Toronto-based Spin Master Toys. They are called Bindeez in Australia, where they were named toy of the year at an industry function earlier this year.


It could not immediately be learned whether Aqua Dots beads are made in the same factories as the Bindeez product. Both are sold by Australia-based Moose Enterprises.


The toy beads are sold in general merchandise stores and over the Internet for use in arts and crafts projects. They can be arranged into designs and fused together when sprayed with water.


Scientists say a chemical coating on the beads, when ingested, metabolizes into the so-called date rape drug gamma hydroxy butyrate. When eaten, the compound - made from common and easily available ingredients - can induce unconsciousness, seizures, drowsiness, coma and death.


Naren Gunja from Australia's Poisons Information Center said the drug's effect on children was "quite serious ... and potentially life-threatening."


The recall was announced by the Consumer Product Safety Commission on Wednesday several hours after published reports about the recall in Australia.



The two U.S. children who swallowed Aqua Dot beads went into nonresponsive comas, commission spokesman Scott Wolfson said Wednesday afternoon.


In Australia, the toys were ordered off store shelves on Tuesday when officials learned that a 2-year-old boy and a 10-year-old girl were hospitalized after swallowing the beads. A 19-month-old toddler also was being treated.


The news jolted the toy industry because Aqua Dots has been one of the few bright stars of the toy selling season, which, along with overall retailing, has gotten off to a sluggish start. The item, which had been heavily advertised, had appeared on many toy experts' list of must-have holiday toys, and toy sellers are now in the midst of canceling advertising and scrambling to figure out how to replace it.


Chris Byrne, a New York-based toy consultant, noted that the incidents could have been isolated, and Spin Master may be erring on the side of caution.


"This is something that they could not have foreseen. This is an extremely hot toy. ... It's a little scary," Byrne said.


In a statement, Toys "R" Us Inc., said that it issued on Tuesday a "stop sale" on the entire Spin Master Aqua Dots product line in its North American stores and on its Web site after it learned of the news. "We understand that Spin Master and U.S. regulatory authorities are investigating this product and we have asked Spin Master to fully explain what it believes happened," said the toy seller in a statement.


Meanwhile, a separate recall was announced for 405,000 children's products made in China, most of them toy cars, because of dangerous levels of lead.


The recall includes about 380,000 Pull-Back Action Toy Cars imported by Dollar General Merchandising Inc. of Goodlettsville, Tenn., and 7,500 Dragster and Funny Car toys imported by International Sourcing Ltd. of Springfield, Mo.


Four of the recalled products were imported by Schylling Associates Inc. of Rowley, Mass., including the items Duck Family Collectable Wind-Up Toy, Dizzy Ducks Music Box, "Robot 2000" collectable tin robot and Winnie-the-Pooh Spinning Top. The company recalled another 66,000 spinning tops Aug. 22.


Representatives from Schylling Associates Inc. were not immediately available for comment.


Wednesday's recalls include about 7,200 "Big Red" Wagons imported by Northern Tool & Equipment Co. of Burnsville, Minn. Totaling about 405,700, the recalled children's products all had excessive levels of lead in their surface paint.


Although no illnesses connected to the toy car recall have been reported, lead is toxic if ingested by young children. Children's products found to have more than 0.06 percent lead accessible to users are subject to a recall. Top



Why are you SM tellling me not to post here? Is this a warning because this is a false website? nm
I think the few of us who are here need some straight answers. Sold, Stolen, Hijacked, Owned by a Foreign Country?? What is the truth?
You need to read sticky warning at the top of Politics board.
"let people express his or her opinion and move on"

Use the Golden Rule, don't go over there if you get headache, stay on MT boards.
Ancestry.Com Needs a Surgeon General's Addiction Warning Box
Is to get one of those Ancestry charts online where you put in each person in a family tree. You can then click on 2 people's names and see exactly how they're related to each other.