I personally know 4 people who met and married via dating websites - sm

• Anyone have any suggestions for meeting nice fellows more middle aged. I have tried - PAMT
  • Met mine via Great Expectations sm - Southern Belle
  • I personally know 4 people who met and married via dating websites - sm - missT
  • football or basketball pools - ideas
  • Got money? - sm
  • Volunteering. Church. Political parties. - ......
  • ballparks, raceways, night classes at local jr college, casinos...? NM - anon
  • Book Store - Pink Ice
    • sm - Bird watching walk - what a bore!
    • agree with book store - skunko
      • Sounds good! I can tell you that these dating sites do not work. I have never seen so many needy - PAMT

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Of the three people I know, one got a criminal justice degree and now sells real estate, another got a business degree and continues to work on a factory line, a third has decided to become a professional student and see how many degrees she can get - but she never intends to work - is 38 and never had a job in her life.

I attended one of their certificate ceremonies - she was not receiving a degree, mind you, just getting a 1 year completion ceremony.  I was amazed at what they were giving completion certificates for - filing was one of them - who brags they got a certificate in filing and hangs it on their wall?  In my day you learned such things with OTJ training, or in high school business classes - its not rocket science to learn to file alphabetically, good grief!  I was very sad that those girls had paid to learn it.  I question the cirriculum and morals of colleges that have classes like that and give out certificates for them, and can't imagine what an HR person thinks when someone proudly presents it to her across the hiring desk!

It was a therapy/support group that I attended with my son/daughter.  I was the only parent there.  My child was never molested or had any such issues you think are common to "gay" people you are acquainted with.  None of the TG people I have spoken with expressed concern about any past abuse.  The main issue that everyone had in common and kept discussing was the crushing rejection they received from society and their family.  Many were shocked and envious that I as a parent was at the meeting, because their own parents would no longer even speak to them.

If a child is born with gender issues, we make it very clear to them the minute the issue arises that we don't want to hear it. We accuse them of making a choice and judge their choice is wrong, so we punish them, we try to silence them and make them stop the nonsense. So they learn to hide it and handle it alone. IF they make it through puberty without suicide, as adults they tell us it still exists and they must face it. What do we do then? Accuse them of duplicity because they faked being "normal" for so long (after WE forced them to), punish, ignore and hate them, cut them out of the family, weep and moan from the shame of it all and what people will think of them and us. We even tell them we'd prefer they were dead! Because we'd rather deny and eliminate our own child than deal with THIS problem. How very sad for us all. We need to focus on what is wrong with US that we would react this way to a loved one with a very tough problem. Only then can we work on how society sees it.

So for every transgendered person you hear of - know this - they are dealing with a horrible backlash from the people they love AS WELL as the gender issue. Most of them contemplate suicide daily (statistically 50% do commit suicide - the other half that die untimely deaths are murdered). Despise them if you wish, your opinion won't make it go away. The next transgendered person born could be your child or grandchild, your neice or nephew, your best friend's new baby. I pray they will each have someone in their lives that will love them anyway, who doesn't choose gender as more important than the human being.

There's an article in TIME magazine (May 25 edition) about this subject. They're called CU's--Committed Unmarrieds. Here's a couple of interesting stats from the article:

Andrew Cherlin, a Johns Hopkins professor, says that unmarried parents in Europe stay together longer than married parents in the U.S.

Rutgers University's National Marriage Project says cohabitating couples are at least twice as likely to break up as married couples are.

Nonmarital births have increased the most among women ages 25 to 39, doubling since 1980.

The majority of cohabitants either break up or marry within five years, says Alison Hatch, a grad student at the University of Colorado, who is doing her dissertation on committed unmarrieds.

More than 5 million unmarried couples cohabit in the U.S., nearly eight times the number in 1970 and a record-breaking 40% of babies born in 2007 had unmarried parents, up from 25% from 2002.

My excused absence . com? LOL  Our local news just had a story on this. There are websites that SELL jury duty notices, doctor's sick forms, discharge summaries, and even jury duty notes!! They cost between 5 and 25.00 to download and print to hand in to your boss when  you "fake a sickness" or use an excuse of why you couldn't work.  LOL  This is hysterical that people would actually do something like this! I can't believe how funny this is to me. Actually, not really funny, just unbelievable. My son was in the hospital last week with a smashed face and I was tempted to fax in the REAL discharge summary, but have it in case I need it.  Though, the company was very kind in excusing my absence.

Anyways, I"m TAKING A POLL RIGHT NOW: Who would use this kind of form? hahaa

I hate it and that's why I continue to be single and loving it.  Knowing the simplistic mind and approach of men to relationships, think of it this way (just to put it bluntly).  They are like boys with new toys.  If they play too much with the toy, sooner or later, they will set it aside and forget about it.  As far as "games," yes dating is a game, a "cat and mouse" game.  The cat enjoys inmensely chasing after the mouse.  You have to "dangle the catnip" for the cat and let him work for it.  If the mouse does the chasing, then it is not fun for the cat.  Many men have the same thing in mind while dating "hit and run" (if you know what I mean), as in "why buy the cow, when you have tasted the milk."  You have to let him do the chasing.  When a woman goes too much after a man, he just sits in his all mighty throne knowing that he doesn't have to do anything, but wait for you to come to him to tell him how much you need him.  If he really has any real true intentions, he will call you or write to you wondering what you have been up to.  There is nothing worse for a man that not to know what a woman is thinking.

Natalie Cole has a lot of nerve talking trash about other people when she herself is involved in a relationship with a con man who is currently under four felony indictments!