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I meant before now- you sound like it's my fault

Posted By: lisa on 2007-05-01
In Reply to: You were the one who said you got - What are you thinking about again

I mean I have never gotten in trouble before this. Yes - I work for an extremely strict company - if you are late more than 5 minutes twice in a 30 day period, it counts as an absence. I missed one day last week for my daughter having strep; prior to that I had missed one day in 7 months due to child illness. My employer says you have to have someone else to watch your child when they are sick


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    He is 100% at fault.
    He agreed to park it on his property and it was stolen while on his watch. End of story. Yes, your husband perhaps should have taken care of things before he drove off for the night, BUT your BIL agreed to keep it for him. Yes, as the poster below stated, it is really no different than if he borrowed your car and it was stolen while in his possession. I would not let it go, they are plain out and out wrong. I do not understand how people sleep at night when they treat others that way, family to boot!

    I truly hope you get something resolved. Good luck to you.
    It's not the dog's fault
    Why would you call them stupid dogs and then say you can't shoot them?? and you have a dog of your own. It's the pet owner's responsibility. The dog's don't bark just to annoy the neighbors. The owners should take responsibility or they shouldn't have dogs.
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    No....it isn't the dog's fault.

    The OP was complaining of just barking.  I was complaining about a lot more than just barking.  My mother is 64 y/o, widowed, and suffers from MS.  She has a right to be able to walk in her yard without worrying about the neighbor's dog knocking her over, barking at her, tearing out her trash, or getting under her feet and making her fall. 


    I understand that it isn't the dog's fault but no matter how many times you call the Sherriff or the humane society.....nothing is done.  They still have the dogs and my mom still deals with it everyday.  She has no rights whatsoever to keep her yard animal free and she has to live like this. 


    I personally feel that anyone should have a right to shoot any stray animal on their property.  If pet owners aren't going to be responsible enough to keep their pets in their own yard, they have to live with the idea of someone shooting their pet.  I don't like other dogs on my property.  I don't allow my dog to go off of our property. 


    Not your fault sm
    There is a program on called, "Intervention" and you may or may not get it in your area (on cable). It is a very sad but true reality show that deals with addiction. You didn't do it to him. He has this "go" factor in his brain that makes him want the drug more than anything else in the world and he will lie, cheat and steal to get it. If there is free counseling, get it or call NA and ask if there is a program you could go to yourself to learn how to deal with it. You can't go to AA for drugs unfortunately because they'll let you know right off the bat that it's for alcohol. There may be programs for multiple addictions you could attend. It all depends what tools you have wherever you live. Don't cushion his fall and don't be an enabler. I had to cut myself off from a brother I love dearly but he has to learn that I won't give him money, won't take his BS stories or anymore schemes. When I saw him last, I cried, he looked awful, but he did it to himself, the drug rules. There are many online chat rooms and I think if you Google "Recovery" or 12 step programs you may want to go in, sign in and just listen and at least get some feedback. You did not cause it and don't think for one moment you can cure it. The only one who can help your son is God and if you believe it, some power higher than himself. But he has to want it more than the drug. Intervenion may help. Don't enable him or he will reach a tragic end. Most of all, take care of yourself.
    it's not all his fault

    My dad is a teacher in California (I live in a different state) and has had 10 days per school year cut from his paycheck. The vacations are also longer during the school year as well. I don't understand the whole new office furniture purchase from your superintendent, but it sounds like your school system is just like everywhere else. Government-run systems/jobs have all had to make cuts, and schools seem to be the first that get screwed. All of the changes he has made probably stem from mandatory cuts he has to make to save money. Each school is going to be different how they implement them.


    My husband's parents work for a government college and they are having the same problem with money. The college laid off so many people to save money. It is sad, but nothing can be done when it comes to mandatory cut backs. Hopefully things will change in the future, but it sounds like they are floundering to find ways to save money anyway the can.


    hospital CEO's at fault too
    Nurses not work when they are tired? Hospitals need to hire enough nurses so that won't be forced to work when they are tired- ARH nurses in our state are on strike right now fighting for this. about the Quaid babies, I agree the meds should be in totally different colored bottles.
    You are saying to make up when you think not your fault?
    I have done this before, a relative got very angry with me years ago and I told them if I could visit again I would never say anything to upset them again- if they said the sky was striped I would say, yes it was- that is what I had to do if I wanted to see them so I have done that- now having said that- he is upset about the fact he thinks I took his money and told me so. Why try to make amends when it would never be right in his eyes- he still feels slighted. An apology from me would not change his perspective on my having
    so called cheated him out of what was due him.
    Except FL has no fault divorce. Everything is 50/50.
    nnnnnnnnnnnnnn
    And it's not their fault you offend them.
    But--this is another reason. It was very nicely explained, and yet the arguing continues. Sometimes you just need to state your opinion and move on. There are some you just won't win. Like this one--or the puppy mill one. Somtimes people just don't want to hear it, let alone hear it over and over again. Just step away from the situation.
    how did i even imply it was his fault?
    I was asking if it is something that can be worked out. Obviously this is my only long-term relationship. And what gave you the impression I "go out all the time". First of all I don't drink, at all. Secondly I NEVER went out until 2 years ago because he was in the Marines and I just stayed home all the time waiting for him and being worried... but you sound a lot like my mom, like if I am not married and popping out babies by the time I'm 30, I'm a total failure.


    but that is not you daughters fault sm
    that you had such a horrible life. I feel for you. I too had a pretty rough childhood but no way would I even think to make one of my kids pay for that. Sounds like you need some serious counseling or you are going to be one miserable lonely old lady.
    And I bet the divorces weren't her fault, either.
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    It is not my fault others get offended at my opinions
    x
    maybe it's the post office fault.
    x
    No, NOTHING makes it the woman's fault, BUT....
    I don't think the woman has anything to do with whether a man cheats or not. Period. End of Story. Spare me the long sob story about how the woman *never put out* for her man.

    That said...

    If a person who has been cheated on just sits and lets nature take its course, almost always they are vindicated.

    If Princess Diana had just let Charles be Charles, he would have become and STAYED the laughingstock of Britain. And she would have become Queen. (Okay, maybe not Queen, but she was then and is still an icon in Britain, and he would have never recovered from his cheating on her).

    In looking at the John Edwards scandal - it's very similar. Elizabeth never did anything wrong. If she continues on that path until her death, ultimately John Edwards will probably NEVER recover politically speaking.

    When you do the RIGHT thing instead of the convenient thing, you will ultimately be vindicated.
    I also disagree that it is never the woman's fault.
    I do not know what your circumstances are, but there are a lot of wives out there whose fault it is that their husbands leave them.

    There is something I would never, never do and this is cheating with a married man.
    This is downright despicable, ruining marriages.
    I say it's her mother's fault. Supposedly she was stage mom from
    !!!!
    It was the OWNERS' fault for allowing the dog to run loose.
    The fact that you didn't see him and ran over him was an accident. That accident wouldn't have occurred if those people had been responsible dog owners and kept him in a securely fenced yard.
    Nothing makes it the woman's fault - not even if she also cheats. sm
    Two wrongs don't make a right. Men need to act more like humans and less like animals, and keep themselves under control.
    On the subject of fault. Dont read if easily

    If my opinion upsets someone, I think it is their "fault" (for lack of a better word) if they get upset.  Everyone owns their own feelings and should not let someone else's opinion have so much power over how they feel.  As far as lemmings and masses, those are generalities, a comment on society as a whole, not aimed at any one person.


    I am sorry if my opinions have so much influence over others. I will try to keep my thoughts in check.


    It's not the worker's fault. She has to follow the rules or be fired. sm
    I've taken a lot of flack from a lot of customers, and the run-of-the-mill retail worker really has no freedom to make decisions. When the worker is caught between a yelling customer and a yelling manager, who do you think she'll listen to?
    How is the school's fault if Johnny comes to school armed?
    And how is the school's fault if off campus people are getting jumped? Everybody wants to blame the schools, but the reason places have gone "zero tolerance" is because every parent whose kid gets popped for an illegal weapon says, "Oh, my little pookie wouldn't do that." Which is exactly what the parents of every perpetrator of school violence has said. At 15, this girl should have been aware that it was verboten and, if they felt that strongly it was necessary, kept it hidden. If she is not capable of thinking that part through, maybe she shouldn't be trusted with pepper spray anyway.
    Sorry.. I meant
    to say that they will assess a penalty on you this year. If you are unable to pay back the loan amount, prior to the end of the calendar year, the IRS will expect penalty fees. Your 401K company is obligated by law to turn this information over. If you close out your account, expect to have up to 40% withheld.
    Meant to add
    It seems as though almost all treatments for cancer have side effects which include a possibility of cancer later in life.
    Oh, meant to say
    I was going for guardenship of my father - set to be filed in court on Monday and he was killed going to see this woman over the weekend. I had no qualms about having the courts to step in, wanted them to because he did not want to listen to me, his only living child and next of kin.
    I don't think she meant this towards the OP, but to --sm
    the poster above her.
    OMG! Meant SIL!!! LOL!!!
    x
    Meant to say IS IT POSSIBLE? NM
    !
    Meant to put JW, not JV
    s
    Meant to ask you below
    Could you tell me what an M-team and an S-team are? Also, do you know what an LEA is? It may be that we are in different states and the terms are interchangeable with something I have heard of (I think I read something about an SST team, may not be the correct letters though).

    Glad you were able to get things to go your way! We have always been pleased in the past and our son has always progressed very well in their programs, receiving A's and B's on his report cards and major behavior improvements, but they missed the mark on this one, and when my husband signed acceptance of their plan after their refusal to try what we thought would be best for him, he told them what would happen and his prediction has come true.
    Perhaps this was meant for OP?
    Not sure why you would intend it for moderator--didn't see anything in mods post that you had to stop.
    Sorry, I meant --looking at it the right way--- no msg

    LOL -Yep, what is what I MEANT to say - sm
    Running on no sleep and just not making sense. I stand corrected!
    it's exactly what she meant, you know.
    nm
    Well.....I meant....sm
    the time before the first ice age. Kinda of hard to believe that we are heading to an ice age when temperatures around this part of the country can top 100+ degrees in the summer and stay up as high as 70 in the winters. Weird weather.....

    Anyhoo.....I also like to melt about a half block of the big block of Velveeta and add a can of chili to it and heat through until bubbly. Really good with Fritos, too!
    I meant...
    I know someone with a dog that gets loose often, and sometimes it is beyond your control.
    Well it is according to how he meant...sm
    how he meant it. If he wasn't playing around and was serious then I would be mad. I mean you never want to call your child names.
    yes, that's what I meant - Thanks!
    nm
    (I meant, " CAN'T see...")
    .
    What I meant was...sm
    There's no debate because I am not arguing against ESC research.
    All she meant
    was please don't put it in the subject line...I didn't watch either show until this afternoon, so when I scrolled down and saw "Talking about AI" (or whatever the OP said) I just skipped it and came back tonight and read it after I had watched. That's all.


    I meant to say

    When I looked back at my post, I meant to say my mom is the only person we will leave a sick child with if we absolutely have to go somewhere, not that if we absolutely have to leave them with her.  My mom is a retired nurse, as well as having great mom common sense after raising 4 kids with all the mumps, measles, chicken pox, colds, flu, etc that goes along with it.  She's also close enough to pick them up from school if need be.  It's just worked out really good for all of us.  Like I said, I think she and the kids would have missed out on a lot if she had lived far away.


    Thank you! That's what I meant. nm
    nm
    Wow, you sound like
    someone with real compassion for animals - NOT.

    I personally would rather have my tax money go for this cause as opposed to going to cover welfare and disability incomes of people who are perfectly capable of working and just choose not to because they can. But that's just my opinion.
    You know what? If it were me, and I know this may sound sm
    way off to some people, but I would treat this young boy with love! Invite him over, talk to him, show him that someone truly loves him. I would invite him to church and pray for him. I know, totally unconventional. He acts that way because of his parents. He needs good, godly role models in his life. I would try my best to be that person.

    I think too many people try to throw away bad kids. It's such a shame. They can be rehabilitated. 11 isn't that old. And I am not saying that is your responsibility because it's not! I understand that. But if I lived there, that is what I would do and see how that works. That saying, "love makes the world go round," is because love can turn a bad situation around. Bad always reaps bad.

    I know because just this past Wed. I kept 5 kids at my house (I have 3 of my own!) and we stayed outside and played until 9 at night. I live out in the country and have a lot of land, animals, a pool, etc. The kids I had over has a dad serving in Iraq and I just wanted to give their mom a break. They don't have a yard where they live. They played until they collapsed. I ordered pizza and just loved on them. I see their mom struggling with them and I just wanted them to have a place where they could let loose and have a great time. One of them was a little ornery, but I would talk to her and be sweet and I really think I brought the best out in her. They brought their collie with them to play too and he ended up staying! So, we also have a new dog and we love him!

    Good luck to you. I know this probably hasn't helped you much at all, but try not to be mad at him.
    You sound
    like a real taker and nasty, changing dirty diapers on a conference table?? I would have been finished with you then also. Gross. I have been at time share meetings before but a good answer is NO! Did not have to resort to a free this or that and I know how to get a point across without being offensive.
    you sound like me

    I have read people use timers to get themselves away from the computer when reading email on their working days.  For me, I keep talking to myself and saying "just do it"  especially when I feel the urge I want to begin and don't want to delay getting started any longer.  I was more energetic when I was a SE. 


    Here's the sound for ya ...sm

     Cat 


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hBUO_1BPWU


    How do you know who I am? You sound
    xxx
    That does sound a lot like us
    I'm one of those tweeners size-wise; I'm not fat and not thin, wearing somewhere around a 10-12 jean, a 16 shirt, 5Ǝ", 170 pounds. But three children and breast-feeding have taken a toll, not to mention the varicose veins and a few randomly scattered keratoses. Like yours, mine claims (and acts) interested until it's actually bedtime, but then finds reasons not to come to bed. Like you also, the supposedly wanted advances have frequently been rejected (not outright, but more a 'not now' thing), so I've kinda quit putting myself out there, too. Fortunately, there are things that still say everything else is okay so I'm sticking it out, but with the price of batteries going up, we may have to find a better solution!
    you sound like the big sis I need
    Thanks for your note. I could be making more of this than what is really necessary. It is a horrible way to live (always planning for the worse and worrying about what's going on for things we can't control). I think he realized today that all the negative news and me having to work was really getting me down. I just feel myself getting heavier and heavier and I'm so exhausted right now I feel like I'm about to fall asleep and I have got to finish the rest of my work (about another 4 hours). The reason we don't celebrate holidays is actually an agreement we both have. We used to celebrate holidays but every year I found myself so depressed because I've been away from home for close to 30 years and it is still hard, and I cant just go home every year. And he does not like family rituals or whatever those things are called (can't think of the word), as in it's Thanksigiving so we eat Turkey because it's thanksgiving (family traditions - that's it). So over the years I found it easier to deal with the holidays by not celebrating them. If I do cook a turkey on Thanksgiving its because I feel like having turkey that day.

    When I say I can't throw too much at him, he doesn't have health problems, but he just can't handle too much. We take one situation at a time. I learned that years and years ago. Me, I'll do 10 things at once, but I keep it simple for him otherwise, so he doesn't get too overwhelmed. Yes I know he's a big boy, but not all men act like it.

    I may not be expressing myself too good at this point. I'm so exhausted and need to go lay down.

    Thanks for listening. I liked your last line bout thinking his down and out feelings are more important than my well being. I will be thinking on that one more.

    Thanks again.