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I made concious effort to stop yelling & pointed that

Posted By: out to kids. They listen better now,things are bet on 2008-04-19
In Reply to: Anyone who never has to raise their voice to get (sm) - their kids to listen?

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Stop yelling.
Just because your dog is your best friends, doesn't mean you should bring it everywhere you go. Wow. Try breathing deep and relaxing. I said I don't normally care, but if I had a slipper dog, I wouldn't bring it where it doesn't belong personally.
you pointed out something I never thought of!
I will keep in mind the "midnight runs"... I have this fairy tale of what it would be like... of course I could do MT work while doing house work, like i would do at my own place you know... so I am glad you brought up something like that! But why would they need a full time maid? unless those pictures are not really of their house and they are complete slobs?!! :)
Found a live cam pointed at Himalayan cat w/kittens

Copy and paste this into your browser for a huge dose of cuteness! 


http://www.marestare.com/masada.php


(This is from that same site that does the live foal cams, but these folks have it pointed at their cat with kittens for a change of pace!) 


 


 


 

A forensic scientist on the Today show pointed out....sm
that it's very doubtful these girls are really 16. Most still have several of their baby teeth. They also showed measurements between their nose and mouth which usually has lengthened significantly by the teen years and on each kid on their team it was more consistent with 8-10 year olds. Also their irises are still quite large which is consistent with kids much younger than 16 worldwide.

I think the IOC should investigate more than just accepting China claiming on their passports that these kids are really 16 or older. Of course the government there can make up passports for anything stating any information if they want to. Duh!
So I probably need to make even more effort to see my own (sm)
I think my MIL is already getting plenty of attention. Now that I think about it, it's mine who is getting shafted.
Re the amount of effort
OMG - I had two teenagers who were 19 months apart.  Yes, it was hard and sometimes I just had to turn my head and pretend that was not my child.  The effort and sacrifices are great, especially at prom time and when they start driving.  I am glad I had mine young.  I think it helped me get through it.  I do believe that kids/teenagers are going to get in trouble for something.  That's their job and it is a way of life.  I just tried to put myself in their place when I was that age (I did much worse things actually).  That is also another reason why they could not get by with much.  I had done it all and knew what to expect.  Even so, no matter what my kids ever did and whether I trusted them or not, I always let them know and told them I loved them more than anything all the time (even if they had hurt me).  I gave them my all and taught them to appreciate it.  I put them through college and they put themselves through grad school.  I was not sure the youngest would even graduate high school.  They always knew I loved them with all my heart and I believe most of the time that pays off.  One day all that effort and sacrifice will be worth it.
I am not yelling at you. --sm
I just wanted you to see how terribly naive your post was concerning not having birth control back then. You DID have a choice and you chose to have sex, but did not want the consequences that came with it. You also chose to kill a child, so your life could be more convenient and you would not have to deal with it. All I was trying to say was that perhaps you should have abstained from sex in the first place so that you may have WANTED a child later in life and not have had to resort to abortion as a means of birth control. However, you have to live with your decisions and since you show not one bit of remorse for the lives you took, I pray for you. JMO
It's by far better than yelling at them all day!
Something about engaging their caving instincts. Read that somewhere. They have their comforters and bones in there so it's super comfy, gives them something to do, and the rule is if 2 reprimands in 10 minutes, I yell "crate" and off they go. They run in their crates, do their mandatory 3 spins, and tuck in their noses. :o)
What are you talking about? Effort? Just because he doesn't
live here with me by no means says I didn't make the effort. When you divorce, the kids either go with the dad, the mom, or in our case, it was both. We are extremely close and he wants to live with us.

I really regret this post now. I certainly did not need people like you responding to a very delicate situation and one that is very close to my heart. You sound really evil.
a question of amount of effort
If I had to do it over again, yes.

But I am having a hard time seeing where the amount of sacrifices I made is paying off in these "teenage years."

I think the payoff for being a good enough parent just might be raising "good enough" kids who become "good enough" parents, so you don't end up raising your grandkids....(and end up with a second chance to get it right).

You are yelling more than my own mother did,
calm down!! It happens and so?? At least I am not like 1 of the women I read about on here, a single mom, unable to make a living having to raise kids by myself. Whatever mistakes I made, I took responsibility and never had to rely on others for the things I did....
Most rewarding parts require most effort.
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Maybe folks think you are upset because you keep yelling
Ultimately it is your decision whether or not to give someone the key to your home, or once they have it to let them keep it. You have to do what you are comfortable with. I have keys to my parent's home, my siblings' homes, and my cousin's home. Two of my brothers have keys to my home. We are all comfortable with that arrangement.

As a side note, you posted here about the entire situation knowing that everything in your post would be open to comment. If you did not want folks to comment on aspects your situation, then there really was no need to divulge so many details. You simply could have said, "My son is moving out of my home. I asked for the keys to my house. My mother felt this was objectionable." Then you could have asked for opinions or what other folks do.

To GF: Do you realize that the all caps is yelling?
I think you should realize that first before you get upset with everyone here.

You are yelling through your all cap typing.

My husband yells at me for yelling at them.

He says I sound evil.  I told H then he should cook and clean the house after he works all day and not do anything enjoyable.   I will just throw my crap on the floor along with the kids and that is were it will stay until he picks it up.  I wonder how bitter and evil he would sound.


I have told my kids in a calm voice that if I have to pick up these toys it will go in the garbage and you are not going to get anymore.  I have followed through. It may sound mean but then again, it isn't right for them to treat me this way.  They will expect others to pick up after them too and you know that isn't going to happen. 

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  Name and (party)1 Term State of
birth 		Born Died Religion2 Age at
inaug. 		Age at
death
1. Washington (F)3 1789–1797   Va. 2/22/1732 12/14/1799 Episcopalian 57 67
2. J. Adams (F) 1797–1801 Mass. 10/30/1735 7/4/1826 Unitarian 61 90
3. Jefferson (DR) 1801–1809 Va. 4/13/1743 7/4/1826 Deist 57 83
4. Madison (DR) 1809–1817 Va. 3/16/1751 6/28/1836 Episcopalian 57 85
5. Monroe (DR) 1817–1825 Va. 4/28/1758 7/4/1831 Episcopalian 58 73
6. J. Q. Adams (DR) 1825–1829 Mass. 7/11/1767 2/23/1848 Unitarian 57 80
7. Jackson (D) 1829–1837 S.C. 3/15/1767 6/8/1845 Presbyterian 61 78
8. Van Buren (D) 1837–1841 N.Y. 12/5/1782 7/24/1862 Reformed Dutch 54 79
9. W. H. Harrison (W)4 1841 Va. 2/9/1773 4/4/1841 Episcopalian 68 68
10. Tyler (W) 1841–1845 Va. 3/29/1790 1/18/1862 Episcopalian 51 71
11. Polk (D) 1845–1849 N.C. 11/2/1795 6/15/1849 Methodist 49 53
12. Taylor (W)4 1849–1850 Va. 11/24/1784 7/9/1850 Episcopalian 64 65
13. Fillmore (W) 1850–1853 N.Y. 1/7/1800 3/8/1874 Unitarian 50 74
14. Pierce (D) 1853–1857 N.H. 11/23/1804 10/8/1869 Episcopalian 48 64
15. Buchanan (D) 1857–1861 Pa. 4/23/1791 6/1/1868 Presbyterian 65 77
16. Lincoln (R)5 1861–1865 Ky. 2/12/1809 4/15/1865 Liberal 52 56
17. A. Johnson (U)6 1865–1869 N.C. 12/29/1808 7/31/1875 (7) 56 66
18. Grant (R) 1869–1877 Ohio 4/27/1822 7/23/1885 Methodist 46 63
19. Hayes (R) 1877–1881 Ohio 10/4/1822 1/17/1893 Methodist 54 70
20. Garfield (R)5 1881 Ohio 11/19/1831 9/19/1881 Disciples of Christ 49 49
21. Arthur (R) 1881–1885 Vt. 10/5/1829 11/18/1886 Episcopalian 50 56
22. Cleveland (D) 1885–1889 N.J. 3/18/1837 6/24/1908 Presbyterian 47 71
23. B. Harrison (R) 1889–1893 Ohio 8/20/1833 3/13/1901 Presbyterian 55 67
24. Cleveland (D)8 1893–1897 N.J. 3/18/1837 6/24/1908 Presbyterian 55 71
25. McKinley (R)5 1897–1901 Ohio 1/29/1843 9/14/1901 Methodist 54 58
26. T. Roosevelt (R) 1901–1909 N.Y. 10/27/1858 1/6/1919 Reformed Dutch 42 60
27. Taft (R) 1909–1913 Ohio 9/15/1857 3/8/1930 Unitarian 51 72
28. Wilson (D) 1913–1921 Va. 12/28/1856 2/3/1924 Presbyterian 56 67
29. Harding (R)4 1921–1923 Ohio 11/2/1865 8/2/1923 Baptist 55 57
30. Coolidge (R) 1923–1929 Vt. 7/4/1872 1/5/1933 Congregationalist 51 60
31. Hoover (R) 1929–1933 Iowa 8/10/1874 10/20/1964 Quaker 54 90
32. F. D. Roosevelt (D)4 1933–1945 N.Y. 1/30/1882 4/12/1945 Episcopalian 51 63
33. Truman (D) 1945–1953 Mo. 5/8/1884 12/26/1972 Baptist 60 88
34. Eisenhower (R) 1953–1961 Tex. 10/14/1890 3/28/1969 Presbyterian 62 78
35. Kennedy (D)5 1961–1963 Mass. 5/29/1917 11/22/1963 Roman Catholic 43 46
36. L. B. Johnson (D) 1963–1969 Tex. 8/27/1908 1/22/1973 Disciples of Christ 55 64
37. Nixon (R)9 1969–1974 Calif. 1/9/1913 4/22/1994 Quaker 56 81
38. Ford (R) 1974–1977 Neb. 7/14/1913 12/26/2006 Episcopalian 61 —
39. Carter (D) 1977–1981 Ga. 10/1/1924 — Southern Baptist 52 —
40. Reagan (R) 1981–1989 Ill. 2/6/1911 6/5/2004 Disciples of Christ 69 93
41. G.H.W. Bush (R) 1989–1993 Mass. 6/12/1924 — Episcopalian 64 —
42. Clinton (D) 1993–2001 Ark. 8/19/1946 — Baptist 46 —
43. G. W. Bush (R) 2001– Conn. 7/6/46 — Methodist 54 —
Read up on writing etiquette. It is yelling.
It comes across as hateful
How old is your child/children and when did you decide he wasn't worth the effort? nm
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we can make a quiet knowledge group effort to eliminate him
nm
I heard the voice yelling out about broken record
and I figured Kara was saying similar statement as she had for previous round. Had no idea Megan's brother. I, like you, could not believe how she was acting and basically think she shot her own self in her foot. What music producer would take a wannabe and try to make a star out of that? Besides do not consider her that talented at all.
Stop! Stop! Memories

Keypunch machines. That's why my hearing is a bit off now. LOL


First personal computer and printer: An Epson and continuous paper printer with DOS operating system. Cost: $3500.


I still have my mood rings and my torquoise jewelry but lost my class ring in the grocery store.It was expensive, $50, black onxy stone and gold band.


Snowstorms that shut the towns down for days on end. Couldn't get out to go to work unless you worked close to home and could walk. Schools never shut down. Five of us walked a mile a day to school with snow up to our hips. Our lessons for the day? Study hall.


My first car was a ི Chevy coupe. Gas was $.27 a gallon and I chauffered 5 friends to and from school for $.25 a week. On Friday and Sat. nights there was a dance with a group that became 'almost famous.' They got as far as the Steel Pier in Atlantic City dance club. It was a big deal to be on TV in those days. On those nights, I would go to the next town and pick up anybody hitch hiking to the dance. (I wasn't allowed to go to the dances). I wired the car with an older portable record player that only played 45s and kept my records under the seat.Worked great except when I would hit a bump. LOL


Bandstand every day from 3:30 to 5:00 EST.


Sleigh riding in the winter on our Flexible Flyer. We did it on steep coal banks. Much better thrill. Then we found out cardboard worked even better. No getting stuck halfway down the bank because the sleigh rails would hit a larger piece of coal sticking up.


Hide-and-seek when it got dark. I missed the pole and hit face first. What a bloody mess, but you didn't run to the ER for it.


Throwing corn at the nasty neighbor's house at Halloween. He called the cops. We ran and hid. I was caught. Where was I hiding? In the neighbor's garbage pile. Today garbage piles are called compost piles.


 


 

My family made home-made mozzarella,
and it was very good. I was pretty small at the time, so I don't remember the exact process, just that it was done pretty quickly, and a lot of milk was used.

I don't know if you'll save a lot of money making your own cheese. The cost of milk is very high, too, and you need a lot of milk to make cheese.
yep, so will probably have to stop
reading the posts and get some work done. LOL.
stop it
Stop sitting back waiting for him to do something - it seems like you have to have his approval for everything - even to be upset - Stop waiting for him to change because he probably won't. Some people have suggested that he is abusive - I'm not sure about that because it seems like you ASK for something, he says no and that is the end of it. . STOP ASKING. She's your sister - for most people, this would not be a big deal. . For once, just tell him she is coming and you will be spending time with her. . Maybe his reaction won't be that bad, and if it is, so what?? Are you afraid of him?
STOP IT
quit putting yourself down - Your child will never hate you - your husband will not hate you - You have done nothing wrong.. SOME people today do put too much emphasis on material things -but you know as well as I do that material things are not that important. . Your heart is what is important. . Love your child and husband and continue being the good person you are - Do you think those people are better than you because they have a lot of land? No - they may have more money but they are no better - and from the way they treat other people - it sounds like they are not as good as you. . And the gifts you gave the child were fine - people would be a lot better off playing board games with their kids than letting them play video games all the time.
LOL, me too, also that gum would all congeal and stop you up.
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tell her if she does not stop running she will not sm
get to go with you anymore. Find someone to watch her and stick to your guns. kids need and want consistency. Make it stick.
Trying to stop smoking
I haven't smoked today! I am trying to quit. Have tried several times before, but this time I have to do it!
Stop beating yourself up....
I have been following since your first post. You asked for opinions, which you got, and you also got a lot more. I wish mothers were more supportive of each other. We truely have the hardest job in the world and I think we have all made choices that we have second guessed or I know other mothers would not have made.

When I was 13 (I am now 40) and in junior high I was "paddeled" while wearing a cheerleading skirt. I was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time and was gathered up with several other students (who really weren't doing anything wrong) and we were all paddeled. I said something to my parents about the fact that I had a couple of welts on my thighs and they told me that was my fault since I obviously did something wrong in order to get paddeled. I got an apology from the vice principal so evidentally my parents realized they needed to stand up for me. My parents now sing a totally different tune. I have wonderful parents (father and step-moter)now, they just made some, in my opinion, wrong decisions when I was younger. They now talk about how they wish they had parented me differently. I am not saying you made the wrong decision...we don't have paddeling in our school system so I don't know whatI would do. Now just move on, it is over with, can't change it, and I can honestly say the paddeling had no lasting affect on me.
Then she should stop going out if she knows the commotion she causes
I realize that the press and photographers should leave her alone. God only knows I'd have a nervous breakdown if I ever had to endure her life, but under the circumstances, if I was just released from the hospital and had psychiatric problems, I would go home and try to keep a low profile for a while to try to heal and try to put her life back in order. It seems like the minute she got out of the hospital, there was was driving all over LA going here and there (or wherever she is in CA with yet another man). Stay home and you won't be followed. Some one on one of the talk shows said she brings a lot of this on herself, and I agree. Someone also said she should just get away out of the country to some little part of the world where she can be secluded and where not many people know her (although I think it would be hard to find a place like that).
No they don't and you somehow need to make it stop
because this is very degrading to you? Has he always been like this? There have to be some 'safe' things he does to show his love/affection, etc., that don't make you feel like the next step is directly to the bedroom....!!!
If you don't stop crying, I am just going to
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STOP!!!! BETTER TAKE A CLOSER LOOK
This is what I found when researching this:

Just Wondering asked the question; Do the Heat Surge Fireless Flame heaters that the Amish sell really work?
It is being advertised in the local paper (The Herald-Dispatch,Huntingto n , WV ). That it is a Miracle Heater. Saves Money: uses less energy than a coffee maker. Stay really warm and slash your heating bill all at the same time. It uses 1500 watts. It is 5119 btu. My question is. Is this really a Miracle Heater? Should I buy one for every room in my house and turn off the heat pump?
10 months ago
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The ads (which are all over the country) are very misleading.

1. A coffee maker uses a large amount of electricity for about a minute. It's true that the so-called "miracle" heater uses less electricity than a coffee maker DURING THAT ONE MINUTE. But you're going to have the heater running for a lot longer than one minute a day. So it's going to cost you a lot more to operate than a coffee maker does.

The heater will cost you around 12 cents per hour to operate. The average cost of electricity in the U.S. is 8 cents per 1,000 watts per hour, so 1,500 watts costs 12 cents per hour on average. This is true for ANY 1,500 watt electric heater.

2. The ads say that the heater produces an "amazing" 5,119 BTU (a measure of heat energy), but ALL 1,500 watt electric heaters produce 5,119 BTU. If an electric heater was 100% efficient, it would convert 1,500 watts of electricity into 5,120 BTU of heat. All electric heaters are nearly 100% efficient, and this has been true for decades. The "miracle" heater is no more efficient than any other electric heater.

3. The website of the heater's manufacturer (Heat Surge, a company in Ohio that has nothing to do with the Amish) is much more honest than the ads. It states clearly that the way the heater saves you money is if you turn off your central heat, buy one heater, use it to heat one room at a time, and move the heater from room to room as you move around. This is called "zone heating." See the Saves Money section of the website (www.heatsurge.com).

This is true, but it's also true for ANY electric heater. The problem is that a lot of people don't like to have just one room of their house warm while all the others are cold.

You DON'T want to heat your entire house by putting an electric heater in each room. That would cost you far more than central heat. Gas central heat, for example, would cost around half as much as having an electric heater in each room. (The exact amount varies depending on what part of the country you live in.)

If you want to get one heater and move it around with you, that would be cheaper than central heat, but you can get a lightweight 1,500 watt / 5,119 BTU electric heater with a fan for under $100 at your local hardware store, while the "miracle" heater costs $350 including shipping. The heater at your local hardware store won't have the Amish-made mantle and the fake flames, but it will work just as well. Make sure to get one with a fan, since it will warm up the room faster, although fans can be noisy.
10 months ago
I just wish they would stop saying a "man" sm
was pregnant. I mean, come on, the person was born a woman and female internal organs or else this wouldn't be possible. If they did a DNA test, it would show XX not XY. To me, this is no different than lesbian couples doing artificial insemination or IVF. It's only getting publicity because one of them has had surgery to appear male and lives as a male.
Got hit from behind at a stop sign
Got out of the car and went back to see that the car that hit me had lo more damage than mine.  Went up to the car and nobody would roll down a window, three guys all on their cellphones (at that time anyway) so I stood there, got out my cellphone and called the police. Tapped on the window then and found out none of them spoke English.  Told them in English not to move.  The police came and went back to them, came to my car and said they were all illegal immigrants, was not their car, driver didn't even have a license and was driving a "friend's car."  AND of course, no insurance.  His pen was flying as he was writing up those tickets in his car and as I pulled out I saw squad cars surrounding the car and I bet INH was on their way too.  Didn't feel one bit bad but sure would have if I had damage to my car. 
may stop a slimeball
When I was single (before the invention of the cell phone) someone followed me home to my apartment. I stayed in my locked car. He pulled up next to me and started honking like he was waiting on someone to come out. Well, I knew for a fact, none of my neighbors would tolerate being "fetched" by a honking horn, so I stayed put.....for about a half hour. He never got out and drove off. I went into my apartment safe and sound.

I love locked cars.
I can't stop laughing....
Do you have any idea how much you will be paying in taxes if tobacco and alcohol are made illegal? Who do you think pays for the sin tax - the users of alcohol and tobacco. If they want to abuse it, fine by me as it does not affect me. Once it is made illegal, it affects me big time with taxes.
Sorry, but I think I am going to stop watching this
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Okay, you guys have got to stop - sm
Posting these delicious-sounding recipes!  I want to try them all, but I also want to be able to fit into my chair.            
As soon as you stop enabling them - sm
They will figure out they need to do things on their own like the rest of society does.  You are NOT helping them by giving in.  What you are teaching them is if they press somebody hard enough and wear them down, they will eventually roll over.
When did you stop believing is Santa?
When did you stop believing is Santa?

If you have kids old enough, when did they stop believing?

How did you/your kids find out?

How did you/they react to the truth?

If kids don't find out on their own, what age do you think they should be told?
vaccine doesn't stop one from getting pox.......sm

as I know it, vaccines don't stop you from getting a disease - vaccines help in that you get a milder case of it, and in this case, chickenpox......


 

Hey Regina. STOP EMAILING ME.
Geez.
I would stop sleeping in the same bed/room as him
Tell him that you can't stand the stench because it can't be good. Not taking care of/repairing your teeth is as bad as not taking a shower/practicing basic good hygeine. It's pretty gross.
Somehow you have to make him stop, for your daughter
My stepdad used to pull the same stunts when I had friends over (he was an alcoholic). It got to the point where my friends' parents would no longer allow them to come to my house. I also got teased at school something fierce because of his behavior. It got to the point where I would not allow anyone to come to the house - still don't take boyfriends home to meet the family! -which meant I was constantly out of the house and spent less time at home with my mother. I'm sure you don't want that to happen with your daughter, so somehow this behavior has to stop.
It won't stop legitimate breeders, who will - sm
pay for a license. But hopefully it'll help to shut down lots of the irresponsible backyard breeders, puppy & kitten mills.
Husband should have put a stop to this years ago.
xx
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Oh stop that!! We'll have none of that here Missy!
I'll have to stop in and say Hi next time
we go up there. LOL. Yes, lots to do too. What part of the NJ shore?

I also love the ocean but do not get to go there much. Just too much traffic for me to handle. I like Point Pleasant. That is about 1-1/2 to 2 hour drive, depending on that darn traffic on the lovely Garden State Parkway. Love Cape May too but way too far.
I have not read but others wrote yet but you just need to stop - sm
you have done all you can do and have bent over backwards to help. Your guilt will be your downfall. I don't know how to tell you to stop feeling guilty, but you really have nothing to feel guilty about. You have done way too much for her and she has just taken advantage. She is 19 more than old enough to take care of herself. She wants to be homeless and can adapt as you say to any situation, then let her. I would just tell her the gravy train stops now and she has to learn how to take care of herself. Get some names of some shelters to give her, the YWCA, etc. and if she really wants to help herself she can start there but she is going to have to do it on her own now. If the worsed happens you know you have done all that one person can possibly do; but if she does not want to help herself (and it is obvious she does not) then there really is nothing you or anyone else can do. You need to steel yourself not to give in and basically cut off all contact until she proves w/o a doubt that she has cleaned up her act which will take at least 6 months if not more I would think. If you don't have caller ID then get it, otherwise let your answering machine answer all calls and just don't take hers or return her calls either. Good luck.
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