I know...and I was off the pill for about 7 years before my tubal (sm)
Posted By: Me again on 2007-12-30
In Reply to: I googled post tubal syndrome - amazing how many people have it
so can't blame mine on that. In the 7 years since I had my tubal, I have had to have a hysteroscopy for a thickened uterine lining and multiple period problems, very heavy, very painful. Before I had always had fairly easy, very average periods which lasted only 4 days. Now they last 7. Sometimes they stop completely for a couple of days right in the middle and then start up again. I will probably end up having a hysterectomy because of the tubal.
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I had a tubal about 8-9 years ago. I would really...
suggest not going to an outpatient surgery center. When they did my tubal they found I had an ectopic pregnancy and had to yank the tube and ovary. I went home 2 hours later; if it had been done in the hospital they probably would have kept me overnight. Just something to think about. Had no problems afterwards. Was back to typing 2 or 3 days later and really did not notice a change in my periods. Good luck.
Had a tubal 10 years, reversal 5 yrs ago and have a 15month old
What would you like to know lol.
I missed on day of work for the tubal and three for the reversal.
The tubal really didn't hurt at all but the reversal was a doozie (The doc forgot to warn me about the bendz??sp??)
I had a tubal 10 months after my second child (11 years ago). The only real
"problem" I had was with the air left in my abdomen (it was a laparoscopic), I had sharp pain in my shoulder for a while, but other than that I have had no problems. Regarding Essure, I know they use coils in teh tubes, but don't know what the failure rate is. A friend of mine wanted that, but because she had endometriosis, she was not able to have it done.
Poster below said something about hormonal problems. I don't see how you could experience anything hormonal if your ovaries are left in. Tubal does not remove those. I still have "PMS" sometimes, but that is because my ovarires are still functioning.
Try crushing up the pill and
putting in baby food, I have had success with that. If not, there is a shot your vet can teach you to give, never had to do that myself, but a friend has and did it, but I am not sure if it is intramuscular or subcutaneous, I can do the latter, not sure if I would be able to do IM. I think it is called Torbagesic (not sure of spelling), but you can ask your vet about it. Good luck, I feel your pain, have dealt with cancer and it is so heartbreaking. Then again, I am so darned sensitive to them, any time I lose them I cry. I never get used to it. Good luck and keep us posted.
Diet Pill
I was also taking this med for weight loss. At one time it was a combo of two drugs, they called them ... “Fen-phen” diet pills. Although I did not take the combo I took the one you were inquiring about. It made me very jumpy, but also brought out an underlying condition (diagnosed by the same doc I got the pills from), and messed up my metabolism, as well as give me High blood pressure, due to the damage the pill had caused, the two issues I have cannot be reversed and I have been living with them since that time. Mind you, this was about 12 to 15 years ago when the combo came out. My advice is this, do your research, talk to the docs, read, read, read, and then if you think that you will be able to work with the side effects, and the benfits outweigh the risk, you should do what you feel is right for you.
Yes I did lose the weight, about 60 pounds at that time but like one other person stated I gained back plus 80. It is like a HYPER drug for your metabolism. Please be careful and good luck.
You know, just take a chill pill
I like to kid but just because you had what you think are complications to a tubal does not mean there are thousands out there saying best thing I ever did. I read some had depression. I was thankful and joyous that as far as sexuality goes did not have to rely on BCPs anymore and felt liberated. I never discussed a tubal or a vasectomy with my husband when I had my tubal. I knew what I wanted and that is what I did, signed the papers and there you go. If the OPs husband has serious concerns about not having a vasectomy, she might face the possibility of him being impotent but then that is something she would have to weigh, not me.
But of course there are now pill-identifier websites too!
http://www.drugs.com/pill_identification.html
pretty neat!
RUTIN, not familiar with this. Is this a pill? NM
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Get some lysine and crush a pill in some
canned food. It helps boost their immune system. Don't now about the fever and don't know details of where you got kitty, but rescue kitties often get herpes that will cause gunky eyes and congestion. We foster rescue kitties and we told to do this by our vet and it does work. The Clavamox is good, but lysine is good too and much cheaper. We always use that as our first course of treatment. Dosage doesn't matter as they won't OD on it, but no more than 1 pill a day.
take your happy pill today, did ya?...N_O_T....
regardless of the type of person ANS was......she still had people who loved her, had pain and misfortune in her life, grew up from nothing and tried to make something of herself, but had a type-A addictive personality...........MANY people are like that and you'd be surprised in one's own family how many people are like this...........
look in the mirror lately? I wouldn't point a finger at anybody's life....we ALL have our stories, now don't we?
in this imperfect world, there are too many pointing fingers 
judge not lest ye be judged (bibles all say this) and/or don't judge until you've walked a mile in someone else's shoes..............
pot/kettle/black
Yep. I'm pretty good with the pill-giving
now too, but that CJ was tricking me and not swallowing his antibiotics. He'd pretend he did and then spit them out in another room.
All this is really new for Sasha. The vet told me she did her growl thing at her, and the vet told her not to do it, so Sasha kissed her. Cracked me up because that's Sasha for you - all talk, but loving.
Oh honey...go take a pill and have a stiff drink too...
some kids are just plain bratty and mean, bios and steps, no matter what the age. Many kids know how to manipulate the situation to their advantage, especially kids from divorce. Some of us are adult enough to see through it and make others aware. Nothing wrong with kids coming first, however, parents need to know when to reign little Tommy or Susie in and stop catering to them all the time.
Tubal
Yep, me too. I had a tubal with my C-section 3-1/2 years ago. My monthly cramps are MUCH WORSE!!! My doc told me it was caused by blood backing up in to the tubes and having nowhere to go. (Gotta love my technical explinations, lol). I now have cramps that radiate around to my lower back and down both legs to my knees. No one warned me either! My doc said to take ibuprofen right before my cycle and every 4 hours throughout the week. This does nothing! I wish my hubby would have gotten "fixed" instead.
I had a tubal at age 27 (sm)
I do not advise a tubal for anyone.
I experienced very heavy flow and excruciating pain after my tubal (tubes were cauterized), and this lasted until menopause at age 55. From onset of menses until the tubal, my monthly cycle was never a problem. I changed OB/GYN, who said the painful cycles after tubal was because BCPs had kept that from occurring prior to tubal. I told him I was not on BCPs and had not been on them since I was about age 21. Of course, OB/GYN does not want to think tubal creates any problems.
My family physician (female) explained that, after a tubal, every month during ovulation the egg ruptured through the wall of the ovary into the abdominal cavity (and body absorbed the egg or eggs), which could create the severe pain during mid-cycle.
I took multiple Aleve during this time. I have a high pain threshold, but just prior to menopause I needed pain medication.
I strongly encouraged my daughter not to have a tubal after her 2nd C-section. Her OB/GYN was not too pleased with her decision. Her husband had a vasectomy a year later.
I had a tubal the day after
the delivery of our third child. My husband and I had discussed it and he didn't want to undergo the vas. He is deathly afraid of needles. After going through childbirth 3 times, I was kind of used to it. I honestly don't remember a single bit of pain following the tubal. I had it done laparoscopically and I was already on "light duty" because of the delivery. I was discharged the day after the tubal. I had a 5-yo and a 2-yo at home plus the newborn. My husband was able to take a week off to help me out, but he would have done that regardless of the tubal.
As for cost, my insurance covered either. I would suggest that your husband wait until after the birth of this child to have the vasectomy, the reason being that you may end up needing a C-section (though I hope not) and they can do the tubal then if you've already discussed it with your OB.
Good luck and congratulations on your pregnancy! I hope your "surprise" brings you as much joy as mine does! We hadn't planned on our third one either, but I can't imagine life without him!
Sentinel. Heartworm and flea protection in one pill. nm
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Once in a while I take Lasix (BP med/water pill) when I get bloated that is my sister's.
And yes I know I should not do this but I'm not dead yet! I'm not sure if Atenolol is that similar so definitely monitor your BP and maybe call a pharmacy and ask them if you don't want to call the doctor.
Misha and Furkids mom....Oh, for a pill to take to help lessen the pain!
I am on several golden and Sheltie email lists. Whenever one of our fuzzbutts are ill, or have already made their journey to the Bridge, we include poems, passages, or what have you to express our feelings. Here is one of my favorites:
(Now, this might be too hard to read at this moment, if so, set it aside for another day. But, I promise you, someday you will get comfort from these words.)
THE JOURNEY
by Crystal Ward Kent
Copyright 1998 – All Rights Reserved
When you bring a pet into your life, you begin a journey — a journey that will bring you more love and devotion than you have ever known, yet also test your strength and courage.
If you allow, the journey will teach you many things, about life, about yourself, and most of all, about love. You will come away changed forever, for one soul cannot touch another without leaving its mark.
Along the way, you will learn much about savoring life’s simple pleasures — jumping in leaves, snoozing in the sun, the joy of puddles, and even the satisfaction of a good scratch behind the ears.
If you spend much time outside, you will be taught how to truly experience every element, for no rock, leaf or log will go unexamined, no rustling bush will be overlooked, and even the very air will be inhaled, pondered, and noted as being full of valuable information. Your pace may be slower — except when heading home to the food dish — but you will become a better naturalist, having been taught by an expert in the field.
Too many times we hike on automatic pilot, our goal being to complete the trail rather than enjoy the journey. We miss the details — the colorful mushrooms on the rotting log, the honeycomb in the old maple snag, the hawk feather caught on a twig. Once we walk as a dog does, we discover a whole new world. We stop; we browse the landscape; we kick over leaves, peek in tree holes, look up, down, all around. And we learn what any dog knows: that nature has created a marvelously complex world that is full of surprises, that each cycle of the seasons brings ever-changing wonders, each day an essence all its own.
Even from indoors you will find yourself more attuned to the world around you. You will find yourself watching summer insects collecting on a screen (How bizarre they are! How many kinds there are!), or noting the flicker and flash of fireflies through the dark. You will stop to observe the swirling dance of windblown leaves, or sniff the air after a rain. It does not matter that there is no objective in this; the point is in the doing, in not letting life’s most important details slip by.
You will find yourself doing silly things that your pet-less friends might not understand: spending thirty minutes in the grocery aisle looking for the cat food brand your feline must have, buying dog birthday treats, or driving around the block an extra time because your pet enjoys the ride. You will roll in the snow, wrestle with chewie toys, bounce little rubber balls till your eyes cross, and even run around the house trailing your bathrobe tie — with a cat in hot pursuit — all in the name of love.
Your house will become muddier and hairier. You will wear less dark clothing and buy more lint rollers. You may find dog biscuits in your pocket or purse, and feel the need to explain that an old plastic shopping bag adorns your living room rug because your cat loves the crinkly sound.
You will learn the true measure of love — the steadfast, undying kind that says, “It doesn’t matter where we are or what we do, or how life treats us as long as we are together.” Respect this always. It is the most precious gift any living soul can give another. You will not find it often among the human race.
And you will learn humility. The look in my dog’s eyes often made me feel ashamed. Such joy and love at my presence. She saw not some flawed human who could be cross and stubborn, moody or rude, but only her wonderful companion. Or maybe she saw those things and dismissed them as mere human foibles, not worth considering, and so chose to love me anyway.
If you pay attention and learn well, when the journey is done, you will not be just a better person, but the person your pet always knew you to be — the one they were proud to call beloved friend.
I must caution you that this journey is not without pain. Like all paths of true love, the pain is part of loving. For as surely as the sun sets, one day your dear animal companion will follow a path you cannot yet go down. And you will have to find the strength and love to let them go. A pet’s time on earth is far too short — especially for those that love them. We borrow them, really, just for awhile, and during those brief years they are generous enough to give us all of their love — every inch of their spirit and heart, until one day there is nothing left.
The cat that only yesterday was a kitten is all too soon old and frail and sleeping in the sun. The young pup of boundless energy wakes up stiff and lame, the muzzle now gray. Deep down we somehow always knew this journey would end. We knew that if we gave our hearts they would be broken. But give them we must for it is all they ask in return. When the time comes, and the road curves ahead to a place we cannot see, we give one final gift and let them run on ahead — young and whole once more.
“Godspeed, good friend,” we say, until our journey comes full circle and our paths cross again.
It is sold in pill form for weight loss,
so I would take it that way.
The pill always made me feel awful - does Depo?
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Tubal Ligation
I had a tubal after my c-section when I had my second daughter 3 years ago. I was over 40 when I had my second child and I knew I didn't want another child since I was older so it wasn't really a problem for me. I will say though that it made recovering from the c-section a lot worse. Our best friend had a vasectomy and he had no problems at all.
I had a tubal ligation
I had it done while I had my last c-section. Maybe it's easier when it's done by itself, but I had a lot of pain and it took me a long time to recover. My husband even said that if he knew what I would have to go through he wouldn't have wanted me to have it. But again, that was because I also had a c-section so don't let me scare you. I'm sure someone here had a tubal separate from anything else and can tell you exactly what they went through.
I never heard of the Essure procedure. What does that actually entail?
I had a tubal with my second c-section sm
i had a c-section with my second baby and while he was in there i told him to do a tubal. he cut and cauterized my tubes. i haven't had any problems since, that's been almost 6 years ago. when i'm ovulating, i do have some pain on my left. i don't know if that's due to the tubal, but i don't regret getting it done. good luck!
I also had a tubal during a C-section
I healed up OK, but have very painful cramps every month ever since. Other people who have had tubals have told me its a very common experience - nobody mentioned it prior to my decision. I'm talking 10 years of such awful pain I could not work during my monthlies without serious pain killers - worked my way up through every strength of ibuprofen, scrips included, until finally was prescribed a psychotropic drug that turned me into a happy zombie that barely noticed the pain. Finally around the 11th year the pain has slacked off enough I can get by on 2 regular strength ibuprofen every 4 hours, as long as I'm very careful not to get much strenuous exercise during my period - that brings back flareups of mega-pain. I had no warning in advance this was a supposedly common result of a tubal so I wanted to warn you to ask around and talk to as many people as you can that have had tubals and see if debilitating cramps have been their experience. Good luck in whatever you decide.
I had a laparoscopic tubal at age 28.
The procedure itself was relatively painless. I took one Tylenol and that was it. No pain meds, nothing. The doctor did cut out at least an inch of fallopian tube and cauterized the ends to prevent regrowth of the tubes, but I still wonder about the chances of an ectopic pregnancy especially with ovulation pain mid month.
I have had problems since then with extreme PMS (PMDD?), heavy flow, cramping, mood swings, headaches, hot flashes with sweats, not being able to sleep for 1-2 nights before Aunt Flo arrives, and a bunch of other annoyances. In reading the post tubal syndrome websites, it seems to fit. I don't know how much of this is related to not taking birth control pills, getting older, gaining weight with a sedentary job, just regular PMS, or the actual tubal. I was also recently diagnosed with uterine fibroids.
I had never heard of the Essure procedure, but I personally wouldn't choose it. I just don't like the idea of having something "foreign" inside my body. What if it dislodged, what if the metal springy thingies were recalled, what about scarring?
Update, might not have been the tubal
but getting off the birth control pills, sorry about that.
I also had my tubal after my second C-section
And it was incredibly painful. It took me way longer to recuperate from having both of them done at the same time. After my husband saw how bad it was for me he had second thoughts about me having the tubal. Even months after I still had slight stabs of pain in the area.
Vasectomy vs tubal ligation
Okay, I am about 8-10 weeks pregnant. My husband and I definitely don't want more children after this one. We weren't even trying for this one actually. We talked briefly about our options. Every thing that I have read leads me to wanting him to have a vasectomy. It is cheaper, less invasive, done under local anesthetic, and recovery is within 48 hours. Tubals are more expensive, requires an abdominal incision done under general anesthetic, and a weeks worth of recovery. However, I don't know that my husband is really wanting to go with the snip snip himself. I'm hoping the cost alone will talk him into getting it done versus me as it is 3-4 times cheaper than a tubal.
Does anyone else have any helpful tips on this? I wouldn't mind having the tubal but I really don't think being unable to lift things and having light activity for a week will really go well with a 5 y/o and a newborn to take care of. Plus...there are more risks with a tubal than there are a vasectomy. So any additional tips on this subject to try and convince my husband into undergoing the ole snip snip would be much appreciated. Thanks!
I had a tubal/ piece of cake sm
My husband is a big baby. I was working full time at an insurance company. I had my surgery the day after Thanksgiving. I was home by 10 AM feeding the baby (not my husband) in the high chair because my husband had to run to the store for stuff we needed. Not a big deal. Didn't hurt, woke up from anesthesia quickly.
Are you peri/premenopausal? Friend just dvdlpd acne and has had to go back on the Pill
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I googled post tubal syndrome
What I found scariest is the way doctors commonly try to blow off your symptoms - blame formerly being on the pill as being why it was never this bad before, or just act like you're being a big baby. Many women on those forums saying "thank god I read this - now I know I'm not crazy". I went to several doctors (male and female)about the pain and not ONE of them said it could be related to my tubal. They don't want to admit these side effects are common, and they don't want to admit they don't know what to do about it. They want us to just shut up and deal with it. Its shameful the way they sweep this under the rug, and the only way you find out its common is word of mouth. No such thing as "informed consent" when it comes to tubals! We need to spread the word! Like call Oprah or something!
tubal in 98 reversal in 2002 and baby in 2005
I was in a really bad marriage and knew I wanted no more children in this relationship and so I spoke with my OB/gyn and her performed a tubal not removing any of the tube just cutting and cauterizing. In 2000 my hubbie and I married and he had no biological children so we had my tubal reversed at a cost of about $3000 and little or no discomfort. A couple of years later and some Clomid (because of my age) I gave birth to an almost ten pound baby boy and am planning on working on a little sister currently *~*~*weg*~*~*~
My husband and I were deciding on a tubal versus a vasectomy....
after reading these responses about a tubal I told him he has to get a vasectomy....thanks for making my decision easier--I honestly never knew about menstrual issues afterwards...
Say a tubal ligation got rid of your eczema, wanna know how I got rid of mine?
Had severe eczema on my hands, thought once would lose my fingernails. I got divorced, the eczema went away and never returned. True story.
Google post tubal ligation syndrome
Very many people find there are side effects to a tubal. My worst problem since having one is horrible, debilitating cramps. Every.single.month! Sometimes they get so bad I can't work at all, and I have to baby myself during that time every month as the least amount of physical activity brings 'em on. I have been to numerous docs (who act as if I'm exaggerating the pain), had numerous prescriptions - they finally put me on a strong psychotropic drug (where you still feel the pain but you're so stoned you don't really care).
I had never heard of PTLS prior to my tubal and had no idea what I was in for. Docs don't give full disclosure, IMO, as to the risks. Please look into the numerous websites on it - the testimonials of people who all have identical symptoms should be enough. This can mess you up until menopause - and its completely unfair to take on a sentence of pain vs some guy's ego!
Google post tubal peace of mind syndrome
Nah, just kidding but I had a tubal at age 29 after my second child, knew definitely did not want another, had always said no children at all after 30 and that is what I did. Never had the first problem with it. I would not try to talk a guy into a vasectomy if he had any drawback to it because lots think it somehow takes menhood away and men can be such big babies to start with sometimes.
My husband is 7.5 years younger. Been together almost 20 happy years...nm
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My feelings; people shacking up together for years and years
and then all of a sudden deciding to get married don't need a thing, obviously. A shower should not even be given. I lived with my now husband a while (nowadays who doesn't!) before we married and I also had been married before years ago but he was not....so of course HIS mom wanted a shower. I told her absolutely not unless it was just the immediate family, his mom, sisters, etc, more like a celebration/get together. And so that's what we did. Showers are tacky, period. Unless it's a couple of young kids getting married straight out of the house and that doesn't happen much anymore.
Been with a man 13 years older, now with a man 4 years younger.
Younger is better, at least in my case ;)
Sorry, meant 75 cents. Still, that was years and years ago.
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I studied to be a scopist years and years ago
Back in the early 1990s I took a course called Note reader Scopist. They read court reporter notes (those long skinny papers that looks like a cash receipt) and types them into documents. I had found the course through something called At Home Professions but just didn't finish it because it was too expensive for me. But I am familiar with them and even found my book from the first course I took. Looking back I think it would have been a blast if I had kept up with it.
It is definitely legitimate. A lot has changed since the early 90s, so I'm not too familiar with the industry now. I do remember what was really weird was it didn't take a lot for me to learn it. For instance I could look at a line of court notes and see something that looked like: NV p srn - and I seemed to know exactly what it said. Just weird. My DH used to say that I understood it because I was an alien and my ship crashed in Roswell. HA HA HA Anyway...that's what I know about it. But if you Google note reader scopist or at home professions i'm sure you could probably find a lot of info.
I have been vegetarian on/off for 35 years, was vegan for about 5 years sm
not that hard. Right now, I am having so many issues with food allergies and celiac disease, having to give up nightshade veggies...nothing left to eat. I am eating some meat now, but not when the gastroparesis sets in!
Being vegan is not hard...unless you are a celiac. This is how I figured out the celiac part because so many of the meat analogs and vegan packaged foods use gluten for the protein and I got really sick from it. I gave up all the premade things and the whole grains with gluten and I was fine.
There is vegan and then there is VE-GAN. By definition, vegans don't wear, use or consume anything that is derived of animals...no leather shoes, most shampoos and toothpastes are off the list, as are deodorants. No wool or silk. Anything with soap usually has animal byproducts. It is very involved and rather difficult to do.
Giving up meat, eggs and dairy is no big deal, except for cheese. You hear that ad about "comfort proteins" in a baby formula and there is such a thing. Mother's milk, be it human, cow, goat, whatever...contains a chemical that triggers the release of endorphins in the brain so that feeding feels good in more ways than one. The purpose of this is ensure that the nursed young want to nurse and thrive. Human milk has a lot of these, so does cow's milk and cow juice triggers the same reaction in the adult human brain. Cheese is concentrated milk and therefore these chemicals are also concentrated. As a result, cheese is an addictive substance. This is the hardest thing to give up when going vegan. Vegan cheese substitutes are nasty and they don't melt. If a dairy-free cheese melts, it contains casein, an animal protein and not vegan.
I studied this years and years and years ago
Most definitely is legitimate. In the late 1980s I studied to be a note reader scopist through a group called At Home Professions. I loved it, but unfortunately could not continue due to no funds. It was reading the court reporters notes which looked like a grocery receipt with a bunch of letters scattered on it. The weird thing was I found it extremely easy. For instance I would see a line that looked like: av e cr, and for some reason I would know what it said. My DH told me that's because I'm an alien and my ship landed in Roswell. HA HA. Well I know that a lot has changed, after all it's been over 20 years since I took the first course and know a lot of it is computerized now, but it is most definitely legitimate and I've heard people like to do it. I think I remember one of the courses was in medical terminology and another course was in legal terminology. Should be able to find a lot of it on google, or maybe go to your local college if they offer it and talk to an instructor.
This has happened for years and years, where have you been?
Frank Sinatra, Elvis, the Beatles, and on and on. This person is acting very normal like the age she is. You would have to have been under a rock to think differently, like this was an abnormal behavior....
Lost my mom 23 years ago and dad 18 years ago.
My son was not even 1 when my mom died....she was only 50. My dad died at age 59. So even though I feel your pain....I would have been very grateful to have them into their 80's. I guess we take what we get and be thankful. Sometimes it is hard though.
I was married for 13 years and 2 years
after my divorce I met the most incredible man. He was also divorced, we both have 2 kids, and though we are not married, we have been together for 9 years. They are still out there, you may have to go through a few marginal ones before you find him, but they are out there and available.
Was your kid almost THREE years old?
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I am and have been for 3-1/2 years....sm
feel free to e-mail me any questions you may have and I'll answer the best I can. For me, foster parenting has been a very rewarding experience.
this years
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I had it done 5 years ago.
The good: Surgery went well. Lost from 420 pounds down to 175.
The bad: Became depressed, lost my hair, damaged a kidney, and eventually gained the weight back. Weight 350 pounds now.
If you can't change your habits now, you probably won't change it then either.
Only 5% of those who lose weight (even with surgery) keep it off.
DH had one about 5 years ago....
It was a breeze for him, and only a $10 copay! He tried to be macho though and lift something pretty heavy 2 days later, ended up home for about 4 days and pretty sore! All in all everything has been A-OK, he has never had a problem. Didn't slow him down any either, he is still quite the man, if you know what I mean! LOL! Good luck, hope it works out for you.
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