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I have been on Klonopin for many years. I take it at night. It is a good med for me.

Posted By: sm on 2007-02-28
In Reply to: I just took a half a tablet at about 8:30 - PAMT~MDM

I am VERY anxiety prone.  Full blown panic attacks are dreadful and wipe you out for the rest of the day and night.  Dealing with the root cause of your panic attacks is key to getting better.  For me, the death of my grandma who I was very close to me followed by a car accident where a woman purposely jumped out in front of my car trying to commit suicide is what triggered it. I went through counseling, which helped a lot, but I am still quite anxiety prone and so I take medication to help with that.  I'm not a depressed person, it's different.  Not everyone who is anxiety prone is depressed. 


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Anybody on Klonopin?
I went to the ER at 3 a.m. on Monday morning for chest pressure that turned into a full blown panic attack.  I saw my family doctor today and he put me on Klonopin for anxiety.  Just wondered how others tolerated it and if it was really sedating or just mild.  I'm picturing myself falling asleep at my desk and drooling all over my keyboard. TIA!
Klonopin is a wonderful drug but a benzodiazepam. Be aware of withdrawal.
I was placed on Klonopin during a stressful year when sleep was elusive, leaving me dragging all day.

It worked amazingly. But, there came a time I had to get off of it. I thought I could just stop taking it. Not so. The drug leaving my system placed me in a state that was far worse than the anxiety I took it for. For three months, I had ringing in my ears, was in an agitated state that I likened to listening to fingernails being scraped across a chaulkboard and then having that sound magnified a thousand times.

I watched a show that featured drug addicts in a methadone clinic and one person interviewed said that the worst drug to get off of was "bennies." Worse than heroin and methadone, and I believe him. I also came to realize there are many people hooked on these powerful drugs simply because the withdrawal is so very unpleasant to go through.

I suggest taking it periodically, never more than two weeks in a row. I only wish my doctor would have said that I would become physically addicted to it to the point that medical supervision would be required to stop taking it. Instead, they appeared to think I had developed "drug-seeking behavior" because of my anxious calls to the office when I was experiencing the symptoms.
Last night most of them were not good. SM
Brooke has talent. Not that much, but something is there. Just not enough to be the next Americal Idol.

I think Carly is vastly over-rated. I like Sayesha.
Ruff night - good one.
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Good question - I fell last night and my dh didn't even help me get up (sm)
I mean I fell really hard and hurt myself and he didn't offer to help.

I really hope things get better for you, whatever your sadness is about.
maybe those 3 years will do some good...
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That's good to know, in 25 years of raising
show cats,I have never seen stud tail in a neuter, but then it could just be my breed.
I tried hard for years - never good enough (sm)
I don't have the desire to try to do any of those things for him because he doesn't care what I want, doesn't care where I want to live, etc. He wants it to all be his way and I am supposed to just do it his way with a smile on my face. As far as him leaving, he is never going to leave this house. He loves it. I have asked him for us all to move for years and he refuses. I think a big part of my problem is disillusionment. I just have no motivation to get better organized or lose weight because it never seems to be good enough.
Glitter is GOOD! I'm [ahem] 'up there' in years and
(And I've been known to have a pink or purple streak or two in my hair, as well!)
;D

Kids do want to fit in with the other kids, and often that means wearing clothes, hair or makeup that is meant to shock us older folks - something we would (almost) never want to copy, so they can have their own culture.

Teens can get away with lots of stuff that we can't, as well. They say if you're old enough to remember wearing red lipstick in the past, you're too old to wear it now. That seems to be true... after 30 I started to gravitate to the pinks & the lip gloss, instead of darker shades.

As for eyeliner, the youngsters can get away with lining the lower lids, but on the over-30's like me, unless it's done so discreetly as to be nearly invisible, it looks scary. (Remember Tammy-Faye?) But heavy under-eye makeup is pretty in with the teens nowadays. Singer Avril Lavigne looks cute with that 'applied-with-a-trowel' look to her mascara, but on most of us it would look creepy.

Also, for some reason you tend to see heavier eye makeup in the Midwest than on the West Coast. So it can be a regional thing, as well.

There are good teen fashion magazines out there that show how to apply makeup; maybe you could get her a subscription to one as a gift.

Other than that, I see no problem with letting kids be themselves and experiment with their look.
Thank you, good ideas,but after29 years, I guess I am searching for something new..sm
Can the masseuse be a guy???
:-) I'm insecure!
Both my mom and aunt have had very good success with it. My mom, smoker for over 40 years, quit cold
turkey and says Chantix is the best drug out there - she tried everything!

I see that there are mixed feelings about this drug as with all drugs. Works for some and doesn't work that well with others. Sorry to hear about their experience!
And Thursday night is safer than Friday night - how?
We used to live in a town that was once in the Guiness Book of World Records for number of churches per capita (which by the way was the worst place I've ever lived - discourteous, Nazi schools, etc.), and they wouldn't let us trick or treat on Sundays. Ridiculous! People can say what they want but celebrating Halloween doesn't make you a devil worshiper! Just my 2 cents!
I had the same thing the night before...last night though (sm)
made teriyaki chicken and macaroni and cheese from a box. Tonight is chicken and rice. Tomorrow night is leftover teriyaki chicken :-)
My husband is 7.5 years younger. Been together almost 20 happy years...nm
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My feelings; people shacking up together for years and years
and then all of a sudden deciding to get married don't need a thing, obviously. A shower should not even be given. I lived with my now husband a while (nowadays who doesn't!) before we married and I also had been married before years ago but he was not....so of course HIS mom wanted a shower. I told her absolutely not unless it was just the immediate family, his mom, sisters, etc, more like a celebration/get together. And so that's what we did. Showers are tacky, period. Unless it's a couple of young kids getting married straight out of the house and that doesn't happen much anymore.
Been with a man 13 years older, now with a man 4 years younger.
Younger is better, at least in my case ;)
Sorry, meant 75 cents. Still, that was years and years ago.
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I studied to be a scopist years and years ago
Back in the early 1990s I took a course called Note reader Scopist. They read court reporter notes (those long skinny papers that looks like a cash receipt) and types them into documents. I had found the course through something called At Home Professions but just didn't finish it because it was too expensive for me. But I am familiar with them and even found my book from the first course I took. Looking back I think it would have been a blast if I had kept up with it.

It is definitely legitimate. A lot has changed since the early 90s, so I'm not too familiar with the industry now. I do remember what was really weird was it didn't take a lot for me to learn it. For instance I could look at a line of court notes and see something that looked like: NV p srn - and I seemed to know exactly what it said. Just weird. My DH used to say that I understood it because I was an alien and my ship crashed in Roswell. HA HA HA Anyway...that's what I know about it. But if you Google note reader scopist or at home professions i'm sure you could probably find a lot of info.
I have been vegetarian on/off for 35 years, was vegan for about 5 years sm
not that hard. Right now, I am having so many issues with food allergies and celiac disease, having to give up nightshade veggies...nothing left to eat. I am eating some meat now, but not when the gastroparesis sets in!

Being vegan is not hard...unless you are a celiac. This is how I figured out the celiac part because so many of the meat analogs and vegan packaged foods use gluten for the protein and I got really sick from it. I gave up all the premade things and the whole grains with gluten and I was fine.

There is vegan and then there is VE-GAN. By definition, vegans don't wear, use or consume anything that is derived of animals...no leather shoes, most shampoos and toothpastes are off the list, as are deodorants. No wool or silk. Anything with soap usually has animal byproducts. It is very involved and rather difficult to do.

Giving up meat, eggs and dairy is no big deal, except for cheese. You hear that ad about "comfort proteins" in a baby formula and there is such a thing. Mother's milk, be it human, cow, goat, whatever...contains a chemical that triggers the release of endorphins in the brain so that feeding feels good in more ways than one. The purpose of this is ensure that the nursed young want to nurse and thrive. Human milk has a lot of these, so does cow's milk and cow juice triggers the same reaction in the adult human brain. Cheese is concentrated milk and therefore these chemicals are also concentrated. As a result, cheese is an addictive substance. This is the hardest thing to give up when going vegan. Vegan cheese substitutes are nasty and they don't melt. If a dairy-free cheese melts, it contains casein, an animal protein and not vegan.
I studied this years and years and years ago
Most definitely is legitimate. In the late 1980s I studied to be a note reader scopist through a group called At Home Professions. I loved it, but unfortunately could not continue due to no funds. It was reading the court reporters notes which looked like a grocery receipt with a bunch of letters scattered on it. The weird thing was I found it extremely easy. For instance I would see a line that looked like: av e cr, and for some reason I would know what it said. My DH told me that's because I'm an alien and my ship landed in Roswell. HA HA. Well I know that a lot has changed, after all it's been over 20 years since I took the first course and know a lot of it is computerized now, but it is most definitely legitimate and I've heard people like to do it. I think I remember one of the courses was in medical terminology and another course was in legal terminology. Should be able to find a lot of it on google, or maybe go to your local college if they offer it and talk to an instructor.
This has happened for years and years, where have you been?
Frank Sinatra, Elvis, the Beatles, and on and on. This person is acting very normal like the age she is. You would have to have been under a rock to think differently, like this was an abnormal behavior....
Lost my mom 23 years ago and dad 18 years ago.
My son was not even 1 when my mom died....she was only 50.  My dad died at age 59.  So even though I feel your pain....I would have been very grateful to have them into their 80's.  I guess we take what we get and be thankful.  Sometimes it is hard though. 
I was married for 13 years and 2 years
after my divorce I met the most incredible man. He was also divorced, we both have 2 kids, and though we are not married, we have been together for 9 years. They are still out there, you may have to go through a few marginal ones before you find him, but they are out there and available.
Anyone have any good holiday dessert recipes? Looking for something good to take to a party. nm
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What a good role model you are for good holiday spirit...wow nm

Awesome! Good service is good news.
nm
glad to see you look at it this way! Really good idea! Have a good season! nm
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Good Fences make good neighbors
You can get premade cedar fencing that comes in sections. You dig a post hole at the appropriate distance and fill with a bag of quick-crete. Alternatively, you could buy a used fence from a place that hauls away.

You could also get an electric fence, just hook to a battery and run the cord (for retraining purposes) it would not hurt your dogs.

I feel your pain. Roll up your sleeves and pray for some digging weather!
Yes, I used to take 20 mg at night

and this worked very well for me.  I also felt a little out of it for the first week or so, but give it time to work as I didn't notice any changes until about 3-4 weeks after taking it.  I'm sure you know this, but don't stop taking it altogether without weaning because I actually ran out of it once for about a week and I had really bad symptoms of withdrawal after the second day. 


Hope it works for you!  It really did help me a lot, and I got to a point where I didn't need it anymore. 


Do you take it all during the day or only at night?

I took that 1/2 a tab this morning and fell asleep on the couch after lunch.  Ended up oversleeing for my 2:00 shift.  Don't want to do that anymore.


I'm sorry about what happened to you.  That would be freaky to have someone jump out in front of your car like that.


I only take it at night. I take it about 35 min. before I go to bed. If I were to take it during the
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An Okay night, Me2!

At first when I went to bed I was freakin' out!  I did not sleep that well, but them drifted off. I think maybe when Hermie comes home at night (He works at home, but has a job a few evenings second shift) when he check his mail he leaves the front door open. I think that is how they get in! He said he had three in about 5 years!!  See my post about Hermie. I'm havin' some unsavory thoughts!  HAAAA!


 


Yes, the party was a smash hit. My precious growled at me when I acted like I ws gonna take her new rope toy. I heard this little ERRRRRR under the table and cracked up. She loves to jump up on my lap about 500 times per visit, but last night those  jump-ups were rather limited. She was GUARDING HER TOY! Every time she jumped up I could see her looking to the side with her big eyes watching the toy on the floor! 


I will try to enjoy my day. Some days I am not really up for just being alone and doing errands, but today I am. I need to relax. I have had so much pain lately again. I am glad we are email friends and sure wish we could get together sometime. Do you enjoy watching the agility trials and dog shows? I wish I knew of a place when it gets cooler to do to just take a lawn chair and watch these fabulous dogs perform for the crowds!  I don't know if I told you before, but I went to Westminster with my niece and friend in 2006! What a thrill!  I wrote a song and sang it on CD and took along and gave it to David Frei. I sure wish you could hear it!  About a month ago I wrote another song about a dog show, but I really don't want to go to the expense now to find someone to play for me and put it on CD.


 


Have a great day, and read my Hermie post. You might smile. IT IS ALL TRUE, so help me TYNE! 


 


N/T Fan, what did you think about last night?

Loved it, but poor Christian, feeling so left out.  But still up to his old ways.  I didn't like what he did at the end. 


Linda


 


We did that last night
We had pancakes and bacon.
When I was a kid we did that every Wed. night
That was our FAVORITE dinner! Scrambled eggs, bacon and toast! I still do that now, though not as often. I get hungry just thinking about bacon.
COF night
We do a COF night - clean out the fridge - where we just warm up all the leftover from the meals during the week.  Usually was something leftover from every meal or frozen in containers to just microwave as all it takes is adding a bit to the weekly meals.  Everyone seems to like it and finds plenty - just get out some applesauce or fruit to add and we are good.  Sometimes throw in a batch of cornmeal muffins. 
We have it almost every night unless

We've been married for 16 years.  I don't know what the average is, but I guess you have to really want it.


AI last night
I was very happy with last night's outcome. I love Adam and I think Allison is amazing for being so young. Not too sure about Chris. I really don't like the way they're doing the voting at all this year, though because I thought there were more than 3 that should have gone through this round and last round. It will be interesting to see who their wild card picks are going to be. Did you know that Clay was a wild card and he ended up coming in second and being pretty successful.
Well, how did you like last night?
I think the final 13 are about the best I have seen in several years now. Started off with a bang. I loved Danny, Lil and dog it, cannot think of the other's names yet. The group really is hot. I am glad to see it back as a contest of singing, hopefully not a contest of who is the most popular. This is a good group to choose from.
AI last night
I thought most of them did an awesome job. I did miss a few, but my favorites so far are Adam, Danny, Matt, Lil Rounds and Alexis, although I do think the judges were right last night and she was a little too over the top. Now what do you think about what they said last night about the big change? I was a little worried at first, but then on The View, Elizabeth was thinking that maybe it has something to do with the way the votes are done this year. She thinks that maybe the judges will have a say this year and not just the voters. If that's the case, I may like it. That way if America votes off someone and the judges think they were wrong, they can keep them. Not sure if this is what it is or not, but it made sense -- don't make it a popularity contest, but a real competition. She likened it to Sanjaya where he basically stayed because he was so popular.
Last night's AI
I personally cannot stand country music so last night was tough for me to watch but I am wowed by the talent this year. It's hard to say who should be in the top 4. Love the young 16 yo rocker girl and also love Megan. She reminds me a little of Joss Stone.
But it is the next day, was on last Night. NM
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On a slightly different night...

...one of our previous pastors was called on the carpet for putting up a few Halloween decorations on his own propery.  Not by anyone in our congregation, but by a stranger.  They told him he should "know better."


I also don't know what decorating for Halloween has to do with those poor Amish girls, either.  Weird.  I decorate for fall more than Halloween, especially since my kids don't like to carve Jack-o-lanterns anymore, and Halloween has never been my thing since I was a little kid and the neighborhood teenagers had me scared out of my wits, but it sounds like you have fun!!


20/20 had a special on E-Bay the other night,
warning about scam sellers - it was actually a repeat though they touted the show as new. On the test buys they ran, all the sellers who scammed them in one way or another had 98% or above feedback. The feedback means nothing, really, as there are lots of ways to remove it - i.e. paying for it to be removed, and also lots of feedback blackmail, where most buyers are too wimpy to leave a negative, as it means they will get one, too. So the feedback system is not valid at all.
I've used it.. best to take at night.
It does make you sleepy but not like out of it or anything. It definitely helps calm you down. I have never taken it on a FT basis as I was scared of being hooked on them as I know they are addictive. I just take them when I'm extremely stressed out.
so who got the boot last night?
Was it the results show? I haven't really kept up with it this year, just can't seem to get into it...but I did see Lakisha and LOVED her!
last night on Nat'l Geographics.....sm

I get what you're pointing out - makes no sense (esp the teacher-child molestation issues)....


On TV last night was a program on the Miami Drug Cartel from the 1970s thru the 80s and into the 90s.....it was so interesting to see how this city was built up......and so much of it was from the drug business, laundering money out of country, and returning it back to Miami in the form of constructing new sky scrapers everywhere and the cigarette racing boats


.......it's going to be on several times this week on Nat'l Geographic TV but worth checking out.......all appeared to be white collar crime too....most of these people (who are now quite elderly or getting quite elderly) were sharing their drug-running stories and not from jail.  It was riveting to see how it all came about, how it evolved, and how it changed drastically during the Reagan era....and how *crack cocaine* came to be and how that particular drug has taken down so many from so many walks of life.


Drugs are a big factor in why people make these bad choices that they do - what you were pointing out..........studying, getting degreed, and then thrrowing it all away...and that's what was shown on this TV show!!! 


Very sad, indeed!!! 


Signed:  Someone who lost a sister to drugs in 1977


did you even WATCH last night?

in Africa and in the Adirondacks in this country and NOLA.  This was not the usual american idol - no one got booted off the show and they collected MILLIONS of dollars during this 2-hour special.


Unless you watched it last night, best hold your tongue because you have no clue.......last night was not a REALITY show American Idol -


AGAIN, IT WAS A TELETHON.......


You won't see the bugs, they only come out at night....
when you are sleeping.
Something did occur to us last night sm
At about the same time this started, we bought a small tree for the front yard. We first got a Crimson Queen maple, but it would have gotten too much sun where we wanted to put it, so my husband took it back and we got a wisteria standard instead. He was manhandling these trees (in pots) into the back of his car, and the worst areas of the rash are areas where the pot would have touched him when he was trying to get it into the car. Both pots were dripping water. So it is possible that either there was something in one of the trees that caused this reaction, something in the water (fertilizer, etc.), something in the soil in the pots - who knows? But we're hoping that was the origin as we aren't planning on buying any new trees for a while!
Anyone see Mohammed Ali last night on...sm

I do believe Laila Ali or Apollo are going to win, although Laila toned it down last night because her father and mother were sitting on the sidelines (her mom is always there but first time for Mohammed).  He didn't look great but he smiled on one side of his mouth, had that eternal twinkle in his eye, and pointed at someone he recognized.


love Ali, and not bragging or anything but I met him when I was 18 and he was known as Cassius Clay...


ut-oh - age giveaway *lol*