I get your point, but you lost points due to perception of slamming
Posted By: fellow MT's. on 2007-01-05
In Reply to: I think you're missing the whole heart of the story. - Me2
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I think a lot of it was her perception. Do you know
that she did not have Daniel throughout his whole life, during the younger years? Do you know her brother?
Also, Daniel would take his mother's side on anything. He loved her very much, you could tell.
Where did you get the account of it from? The child with perception issues? Or another adult?
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I am not slamming the south....just never
heard of any cooking like that anywhere else thats all. Was seriously interested in that type of food...always like to learn about new foods...please don't misunderstand and think I'm slamming anybody....just like the differences in all of us!
Maybe not slamming, you just assumed
WRONG- She is a yankee- like you. I guess because it sounds unlike anything you know, you assumed southerns eat crap like that. Ugh! I detest country music and wear shoes. Just imagine!
Didn't sound to me like you were slamming anyone,,,,
just pointing out a very sad truth,
Every Indian in America must be slamming votes for this kid. It's the only thing that
stinks. Sundance sang circles around that kid. It had to have been a planned thing. Something just wreaks about the whole thing.
points are - it's all about.........sm
 in this country it is all about which politician is sleeping with which drug company, how much $$ transpires (greased palms), and in the end, what with all the drug recalls after extensive studying of all the drugs, recalled or not recalled, our family members being used as guinea pigs.
You like this system of doing things? You like the FDA?
*pppffffftttttttttttt*
As to your points
By the time of "the incident", drinking 12 beers was going real easy, 18 was average, and 24-30 meant it was the weekend. It was always one of my fears that I would wake up in the morning to find him dead beside me because I'm sure BAL had to be well in excess of .4. I always wondered if that tolerance of alcoholics (he can drink a 6-pack without visible effect to the untrained eye; I can't drink 2) always increased the level necessary to induce coma/respiratory failure.
As to pitying him, when I fell in love him he wasn't as bad as he is now. He drank 1 day a week, and then it was 2, and then it was 4, and then it was 7. Even now, I still love the part of him that's drowned there in the bottom of the Budweiser bottle. And I do pity him; I don't think he's happy. I think he drinks because he's miserable and then he's miserable because he drinks. The 2 months he was sober after the arrest was the longest his 14-year-old son has seen him sober, and the son is starting to show signs of the narcissistic danger-seeking behavior of his father, and I know that is tearing the ex up, although, ironically, he blames it on everything but himself.
As to the subpoena, the DA, at least the last time I talked to him, made it sound like there were no hard feelings if I didn't show up, although apparently without me there is only the report of the arresting officers.
In the state where it happened, punishment is a maximum of 1 year in jail. The ex tried to make me feel guilty about testifying and potentially making him miss a year at this critical phase in his boy's life, but there's a part of me that thinks getting the kid away from his dad and his father's cronies for a year would probably be a gift. I don't know why CPS hasn't stepped in by now anyway, although this is a bit "backwards" of a community.
I think it just said "low points", but
when I baked them yesterday, I ended up with 18 muffins and they were about 2 points each. I also saw on the same post where you can add unsweetened applesauce and FF egg substitute. That poster said this adds 0 points, so I guess you just figure out the points for the mix.
Finally, someone said they baked cookies with just the spice cake mix and the pumpkin. No water. 350 degrees at 10 minutes. I'm guessing you would be more cookies than muffns this way and lower points, but haven't tried them yet.
What points you are racking up!!
Give from your heart like you are doing. You will have Karma unbelievably so. I have gave over the years and continue to do so, first a friend whose husband died, having a tough time and I gave her $100- went up to my father's home and he turned around and gave me $10,000, bought a coat for a child in my neighborhood who needed 1 on a freezing day, paid $30.00 for that and the next day had unexpected check in mail for $300.00. I give money to animal shelter each and every month for their upkeep and even take my daily papers to the pound because the animals need those. I love being able to give, have done since I was a young child so my mother told me. You are really making points with the good that you do, give from your heart, no matter what you seem to think the response is, your rewards will be there for you in the long run. I never give to get back, never ever, just from my heart. I read stories in the papers or hear on television and will send money to different people I think deserve with never an expected return. Your heart is good!!
Not trying fo get points and people think what they want.....
I told how I work, what I do. I told what I see on these posts. How can that be anything but truth?? If it is perceived to be something other than that, well so be it. Only telling the truth. I think lots of MTs probably see themselves in what I have said and I have stepped on toes.
I see your points and agree that there
is definitely more going on here. It's very hard to give just 1 answer. There are so many other factors involved. As you said, is he just a deadbeat? Or is he out of work for the first time and is having a hard time dealing with it. Maybe he kept the $10 because he didn't want to have to ask (or beg) his wife for money later in the week. Does the wife handle the finances and does she "dole out" the money as she sees fit? If so, then I don't blame him for keeping the $10. Or is he constantly out of work, can't hold a job, wants the money for drinking or cards, etc?
Either way, the amount seems very trivial to end a marriage over. I, too, think there is more going on here and maybe this is just the straw that broke the camel's back.
I have to disagree with some of these points
I do know that my natural gas bill, which is what I would be heating with, was WAY more than my electric bill. So I totally disagree with the statement that gas central heat is cheaper. My last heating bill 3 years ago (which only included gas) was $450 for one month.
What you posted says it uses .12 cph, which would equal approx $90 for 30 days, I could put 5 of them in my home before I reached my last gas bill!
Is this for everyone, no. Should it be used as a constant source of heat, probably not for most households (some single people might get away with it).
Really the only thing I saw in the article you posted against this heater was the cost of the heater. I am willing to pay that because I happen to want something that looks nice. This has a 30-day money back guarantee and a one year warranty.
Where I live anything that you can do to turn the thermostat down, if you use gas, will save you money. I need to heat my house 24/7 for about 7 months out of the year, if I had to pay for natural gas I don't know what I would do.
The others do have valid points, but...sm
things like this happen to me and I am most annoyed about the lack of consideration. It bothers me to spend time looking for an item to use only to find out it was lent out. My brother once let his friend use my lawnmower, without telling me. I ended up borrowing my neighbor's mower because the lawn was getting overgrown. It took 3 weeks to get mine back. I think it is reasonable to be asked first, especially if it is something of sentimental value, something that needs extra careful handling, or something that is actually used frequently like kitchen implements/pots/pans...and lawnmowers, of course. : )
Wow....good points actually nm
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All good points!
I am in the state of Louisiana and not sure what the laws are regarding this. Ironicially, the neighbor who committed suicide informed ME a few years earlier that a previous owner of my home did the same thing and the first thing I asked him was if it occurred in the house! He told me it did not, it was at another location and I have to admit I was relieved to hear that.
In any event, they were good neighbors and I feel so bad for his wife who is left picking up all the pieces.
I agree with you on some points
Yes- I do believe that person was dead before EMS got there. However, they said that MJ was having trouble breathing right after that injection -- why wait so long to get help? Why not call the EMS asap? I'm not sure that the body is that of MJ or that it is not. He hid from the world so much -- always covering his face. Again -- how would someone know to get that shot of him -- if the identy of the man was kept secret? I'm not saying he is not dead, but on the other hand I'm not 100% sure that he isn't. Wonder if the family is having DNA on the body? There are things that just don't add up, but the he always was "different." Many have said he used body doubles and had an army of wax replicas of himself. Really . . . how hard would it be to fake his own death if he wanted to. If he is really gone, may he rest in peace. He will be missed by his fans.
Good points, and that is the thing. It is not
a fix-all. Without making lifestyle changes, everyone will regain their weight back. My step-mom had the surgery and is over the 100-pound mark for the weight she has lost. She has cut out all breads from her diet, desserts, etc. She has made huge diet changes since, and that is why she is losing the weight and keeping it off. She also consumes a lot of protein. She has done fantastic with it though. My friend's sister had it and is having a lot of complications, but she has not followed the recommendations for after surgery either. Her son had it and has done great and is keeping the weight off.
He does bring up some good points, but -
He fails to say how all these countries offer the *free* healthcare. That is because it is not truly a free ride. Every time they pay $6 or more for a gallon of their heavily taxed gasoline they are paying for it. I know for a fact the property taxes in both Germany and England are outrageous because I have lived both places. The British also pay outrageous prices for telephone service, must register each TV they have in their home every year and pay to use it, the list goes on and on. So, while they walk out of the hospital without handing over any money, they have in fact paid for it in various other ways. Not quite sure Americans would go for some of this since we are already screaming about $3 for a gallon of gas. 
haha, I agree with you on those points! sm
I can fall asleep with my music in my ears. Only issue I would have is if they talk loud enough to be over the music, or if a movie is playing during the long flights and you can't hear the movie because they are talking so loud, otherwise I don't see it being a big deal. What I don't get, though, is they always made it sound like it interferes with the radio controls or something to have wireless laptops on or cell phones. Guess that was just another story they tell to get you to do what they want, lol.
If you do WW, go to www.dwlz.com - all the points are there for food and restaurants.
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You can google weight watcher points
and get them over internet at sites other than weight watchers. If you have the other material, just do it that way. That is what I am doing.
I really see and feel strongly about both points of view here. sm
I will say I am a Catholic, and a divorced one. I am not practicing at this point, but I am not an unbeliever...exactly. I consider myself a gnostic Catholic, and that is a story for another day.
The so-called Christian morals we have in this country are SELF-IMPOSED. They are with all religions. I consider myself a Christian, so I don't believe in sin because well, Christ died on the cross for the forgiveness of sin...even BEFORE we think about sinning. So, some of this I don't buy into.
If anyone thinks they have the slightest idea of what God wants them to do, they need therapy! WHY would any of us think we know the mind of the Divine??? I don't care how religious you are, YOU DO NOT KNOW THE MIND OF GOD.
I was in an extremely abusive marriage. He abused me, the kids, our minds, our bodies, our hearts, our souls. I was married in the Catholic church and I am still married in the church, having a divorce without an annulment. I made the commitment to keep only to this one man and that I have done. I live celibate for a number of reasons and my spoken commitment in the Catholic church is one of them.
Their respective marriages are over and not because of each other. They are free to be together if they choose to do so. Being arrogant enough to think he knows what God would want, yes he needs therapy! I think he is a bad bet for her because he will always come right back to what God would want, has no ability to exercise the Free Will God gave him, can't think for himself and would be pretty useless as a husband. This may, in fact, be what drove his wife to kick him out! Milquetoast!
How About Those BEAUTIFUL CARDINALS, up by 3 points, I adore Kurt Warner!!!! happy! ,,,,,nm
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All good points, good post. (nm)
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If I lost say 60-80 lbs
I would be so full of attitude even my hubby probably not able to get to first base with me! Nah, just kidding. I also need to lose that much, just gonna have to do it it seems.
lost
Note - next week is 2 hours. Starting at 9.
Yes - they said the woman who parachuted was with an expedition that Penny sent.
Locke really appears to be dead.
lost - and am I!
I don't really know how I feel about the fast forward - but of course there is something wrong there because he said "call my father" and we know his father was dead before he hit the island. Why didn't Charlie hold his breath and swim up through the port hole? Whose funeral did no one want to attend?
we lost one of THE BEST!!! nm
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LOST! (nm)
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lost ours . . .
Four years ago both of them at the same time. We still have their son . . it was just heart retching. My husband and I actually cried harder than the kids . . . isn't that crazy???? We were devastated.
I did WW for about 2.5 yrs and lost 72 lbs! sm
It works but you need to stick with it. Don't get discouraged on the weeks you do not lose weight; it is also not "a diet" but a lifestyle change. Do try to find some fruit/veg that you enjoy; the fiber definitely helps you feel full and lose. Low sodium V8 is a good 1 pt or 0 pt option to get in 1-2 servings of veg daily. Eat a piece of fruit for your snack. I found that I really began enjoying fruit-veg after a while. Get active, drink water and give it a chance - WW does work well and nothing is off limits.
Gee, I think I should rejoin! Good luck.
I had lost about 30%. in my IRA. My
broker put my money into some type of annuity where I am guaranteed not to LOSE any more money for the next year. If on my anniversary date I am below my original balance, I retain that balance. If I have acutally made a little, I do get that and then am guaranteed that amount until my next anniversary date where the same scenario occurs. It is in lower-making funds, but at least I can't lose any more.
Lost coat
If it were me, I would be angry as heck at my 8 yo for not being responsible for her things. Forgot that someone might have taken it, the child was irresponisble. At 8, she should know better than to leave her things behind. Too bad, so sad, no coat, maybe she'll remember her things next time when she has no coat because she's cold. Learning life lessons are tough and 8 is really old enough to take responsibility.
Just another perspective.
lost coat
Maybe she actually left it at school or someplace other than dance, but is certain in her mind that she last had it at dance. You could be looking in the wrong place. I don't ever trust my memory on things like this because when life is really hectic (whose life with kids is not hectic?), sometimes events run together in my mind. Maybe her coat is at school in the lost and found or in the back of the van under a seat, etc. Just a thought.
Lost Coat
You bet!! Unless shehad the money to purchase another one. She left it, so it got stolen. If it was grabbed off her back and stolen, that would be another story.
Kids can be kids, but they have to learn responsibility some time. It's the parents that don't teach it that are having issues with their kids. Mine learned early and often that their actions have repercussions, good and bad ones. And they learn from them.
For example, 15 yo daughter is a competitive dancer. When she was probably 10 or so, she goes to a competition and forgets to pack a tutu that she needs for one of her numbers. Do I got back and get it? Nope. Her responsibility and she had to expain to the others in her group that it was at home. Did she ever forget her tutu again? Nope. It usually only takes one time.
We need to be parents, not friends and teach them to live and survive in the world. It is never too young to learn. My 4 yo knows that if she walks out the door without her lunchbox for school that she doesn't have lunch. How many times did this happen? Exactly once. Kids are smarter than you think they are.
She was either drunk or lost a bet - sm
what a total freak, what woman would shave her head unless she absolutely had too (like a bad attack of lice, which I highly doubt was her problem). It will take quite a few years to grow back long again, oh well, guess that is her problem (s).
I lost 123 pounds (sm)
I am down to 112 pounds. All my skin, including my face skin, bounced back really well. I do have a little loose skin on my thighs but not so much that I can't wear shorts. My belly looks like I've been pregnant with big kids, and with my largest being 10 pounds, I earned my loose belly skin.
It might have made a difference that I did it "au naturale" without the surgery, so I am still absorbing my nutrients properly.
I know your pain..I lost my 16 y/o
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I am so sorry to hear you lost your
precious kitty. That's a long time to form an attachment. I feel bad for your daughter. I'm sure it was a shock for her - you're never ready for that. You are going to cry for a few days and then one day you the good memories will start and you'll realize you always have those - lots of those in 16 years.
You might make a collage of pictures for your office wall.
LOST fan here, see inside.
If they were not dead before, they probably will be now, unless they find some way of digging out. Orrr, maybe the conversation the guy had with John, where things don't stay buried if they're too close to shore, hmm. However, what was the point of this episode? It centered around 2 people that we really haven't seen before, then they seemingly get killed off in the same episode. The only thing related to the series was when Raphael (I think his name was), was hiding in the bathroom when Ben and Juliette were in the Pearl bunker watching Jack on the monitor and making some plans about him. Other than that, I totally did not get the purpose of the episode.
Funny...but I'm not lost...
I'm just coming unscrewed in the process.
My ESL would say LOOOsing it or more like lucing it!
I just need a real vacation WITH PAY!
Did you see LOST yet? (Not too spoilerish)
All I can say is - WHOA!
Didn't quite see that ending coming.
Very, very weird and interesting episode.
never miss a LOST!
We are huge Lost fans at my house! We didn't think the show shed any new light on things though. Just old stuff we already knew. They said John Locke has been trying to sabotage their chance of being rescued from the beginning, but we didn't really see anything until midway through like when he blew up Mikhail's station and then the submarine. Did we miss something else? Anyway, Locke is being so selfish now. Even if everyone else got rescued he could stay on the island by himself, so why is he trying to prevent everyone else's rescue? And we still want to know why Libby was in the institution!
Lost Addict
I'm thinking "call my father" is either a drug haze that Jack was in, OR he came back to life on the island. He did see his father standing on the beach not long after the plane crashed in season #1. At the time, I thought it was a hallucination. Maybe not? It seems that the island has the power to bring people back to life at times. The one-eyed guy came back -- or was he not really dead?
Whose funeral was it? Hmmm. Ben's? It was someone that Kate and Jack knew. Sawyer's? Someone that we haven't met on the island yet? How 'bout Jacob?
Ooooo! It's such a long time to wait, and so many possible answers to too many questions!
I lost my Tasha last May
I lost Tasha last May, she made the decision I did not she was 16 1/2 years old. But I did take her body in to be creamated and am going to spread her ashes in the park where she loved to run and chase the squirrls when I can bear to do it. But my sister has had three dogs put down, the vet come to her house and she is on acerage but they bury them in their back field. In their other homes they also buried several pets. I worked for a vet and I know how some of them dispose of the animals and I would never do that and that is why I decided to have Tasha cremated. It cost me but was worth it. I was going to bury her out at my sisters but decided to keep her here where she loved living. But you can have her put to sleep and take the body home with you and they don't ask what you are going to do, at least here in Oregon. But be sure you dig a large enough hole and down rather deep so some other animal does not come and dig it up. Even in the city, raccoons will dig it up sometimes. Sorry, about Foxie. I kept Tasha comfortable on arthritis medication but the Glucosamine helped the most from Petco and kept her quite comfortable for the last year. Ultram kept her free of most of the pain during the last 6 weeks and I really don't think that she suffered. But she decided it was the end and just went to sleep and up to that day she was walking a mile a day or so with me around the moorage. She was eating well. It is hard and I have not yet decided to get another dog yet but may soon. Take care. Patti
Somehow I lost 10 pounds.
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I lost my mother sm
Two and a half years ago. She was 59. I still have my father and a wonderful step-mother but not a day goes by that I don't miss my mom. So many people helped my by telling me what a good daughter I was and that my mother passed away knowing how much I loved her. She and I talked every day and most days it was 2 or 3 times. I have a 16 and 14yr old and everytime something wonderful happens in their life I think "Oh how proud my mom would be". You are always going to get meaningless platitudes but just keep in mind that your parents did a wonderful job raising you and obviously knew how devoted you were to them. Hugs to you!
My SIL had this and lost over 150 pounds. She...
really did not have any major problems after the surgery. However, it has been almost 2 years and in the past few months she has regained 35 pounds. If someone is eating to deal with emotional problems or just life in general, having the surgery does not make the emotional problems go away. They need to find another way to deal with them before the surgery in order for the surgery to work effectively. Just my opinion from watching my SIL. The docs need to deal more with WHY the patient is eating the way they do and work on changing eating habits before they have the surgery.
so, how much weight have you lost? nm
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You lost him years ago - help where you can when you wish
to but don't make them your project - it will drain the life from you. This is the life he evidently wants so life yours and wish him happiness. You need to let go - it is difficult I know - but you can do it.
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