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I don't believe this. Dogs are not *wild*--sm

Posted By: nn on 2007-02-24
In Reply to: Dogs are denning animals. THey see crate as their den, - not a cell. Dogs are not furry people. nm

animals with denning instincts. they were meant to be every bit as free as humans were. As far as I am concerned, ALL animals, not just dogs, are *furry people* with a whole lot more loyalty, compassion, understanding of nature, and caring than a lot of people I know. They should be treated with respect, just as much as humans, because they were *created* just as much as humans were. If a human cannot or will not take the time to train the animal where it wants it to *do his business*, then that human should not have an animal as a pet at all. You would not treat your child this way, so why treat a pet this way? JMO.


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These dogs appear to be puppy mill producing dogs.
The two females, which I thought were older, appear to be just worn out/depleted. Their teeth are those of a 3-5 year old dog. So, I do believe they have had litters each cycle and are suffering from malnourishment.

Funny thing, yesterday, they were covered with mud (it rained and they were digging) and this morning, I look out and see they have all been grooming as they are clean.

Called Love of Animals who has committed to spaying/neutering the animals, giving them their shots, flea repellant and showing them at Pets Mart on Sundays. In a few months, there will be a regional dog show at the local college where on average 150 dogs are adopted out and she asked that I keep them until then.
Which I will...And a girl saw the ad for the Lost Pets and is looking for a replacement for her Shi Tzu she lost a year ago and will come by tomorrow morning.
I have my dogs on it, and yes all my past dogs but 2 have died -sm
from cancer. But I had 2 schipperkes on Frontline for years and one died at 13 from cancer, the other at 16 just from old age/kidney failure. My last husky was 8 when she died from cancer, but I have had one die at 2 (unknown causes), and another at 9.5 from liver cancer (she actually made a nice recovery but succumbed about 6 months later), but huskies don't tend to live past 10 unfortunately. I have had purebreeds and mutts, and with or w/o Frontline/Advantage they have all died from cancer. I suppose it is possible that it causes it, but if you live long enough, cancer will most likely be your cause of death, anything and everything causes cancer anymore. I hate fleas and ticks and we have lots of them, so the dogs get the Frontline except in the cold winter months. They are 6 and 3 and both doing quite well.
And dogs don't bite right? Love my dogs but I
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my dogs are basically indoor dogs sm
but have a doggie door to go in and out as they please. Sometimes our Jack Russell gets excited and barks inside the house. My DH grabs is belt and snaps it and the loud noise shuts her up right away. I am not trying to frighten our dog, but many times just saying knock it off doesn't work.
That is so wild! sm

I agree with the comment on calling to ask a question. Keep us posted, okay?



wild animals
My fiance used to live in a subdivision in our small town. . every night, possums and racoons came up on his back deck and looked through the sliding glass door at us while we were watching TV in the living room. . We enjoyed seeing them and sometimes we would put food out for them. .

I have to share this also because I think it is a once in a lifetime thing - yesterday we were walking on my fiance's farm and saw a deer giving birth. . we got to within about 35 yards of it. . We only watched for about 10 minutes because we could tell we were making it very nervous. . I hope they both do okay. .
Tomatoes gone wild
I have planted 4 tomato plants that have gone crazy.  They are crowding out other things and the cages are barely holding them up.  I would like to try to transplant them to another area.  Anyone have experience with this with a fully grown tomato plant?  They already have some tomatoes and lots of flowers.  I am planning on starting this afternoon by pruning back many leaves and stems that are not fruit bearing yet. 
Because wild birds are not usually fed
grain that has been tampered with by man and has all kinds of questionable additives, and even usually contains dead chicken waste.  I grew up in the poultry capital of the US and it's a wonder I even still eat chicken!
Wild swimsuits
Pic below.
Thats wild! Would help too if mice were diabetics
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wildlife should be left wild
I agree about the psycho woman, but this is about feeding wildlife. As stated above, wild should the left wild. It's become a romantic idea to feed the ducks at the lake. Because animals cannot digest all the synthetic crap we put into our foods, their digestive systems become blocked and they die. Human education is a very long haul.

JMO, but having been a very wild teen at one time...
you really should intervene. Your sister has a right to know, it is her child after all, and to turn a blind eye and pretend it does not exist does your niece more harm than good. Take it from one who has been there, if someone would have done the same for me I would have been angry, but looking back now it would have changed my life tremendously. A lot of young girls today really need some direction, look at the role models they have out there, most of them are nothing to brag about! Good luck to you, you sound like a loving and caring auntie!
Used to have one at Wild Birds Unlimited
think there is a web site - that was mirrored on the other side.  It has been a while but they had one at their store where I shopped and the goldfinches were right there outside the window totally oblivious. 
I am not saying it is okay to cage a wild animal
but these animals are not in little iron cages. They are living in open areas down in deep areas that have 15 to 20 foot walls. If there are going to be zoos, this is the kind to have.
Pretty wild posts
I was reading the posts below and some pretty heated discussions. Everyone seems to have an opinion and I feel bad for the people who give their opinion and then are jumped on by others. The only thing I could possibly add is do what you feel is right. Emotional scars go very deep, and its true that once things are said (or written) its very hard to forgive. I remember years ago (19 years ago) I got called into a room by my MIL who proceded to tell me how much she always hated me and if I turned her against her son she would find me and kill me - this was after I told my husband (not in front of her) we don't have the money to pay our bills and we can't keep taking her out to eat with unlimited pitchers of beers. He's the one who told his mom we couldn't go out to eat cos we didn't have money. Anyway...those words she said still haunt me and the memory is like it happened yesterday. Words hurt very deeply and the emotional scars will always be there. It sounds like you are getting counseling and that is good. Don't know if your kids are also getting counseling but that might help them too. Good luck to you.
Is it legal to keep a wild deer as a pet? sm
Someone has had a wild pet deer for a pet in our subdivision for a few years now.  I am a serious animal lover myself, but it has gotten rather old having this deer roaming through the roads and, most of all, eating landscape plants down to nothing.  We have sprayed deer repellent on nearly everything, but the one little area we miss will be chewed right away.  Besides, we have to keep doing it over and over and this stuff is not cheap.  Really getting tiresome.  Do not want to be mean, but what rights do the homeowners in here have??
Are we living in the Wild West?....sm
I wonder that the police do not take more action against him.
Your mother has now to live imprisoned with a shotgun next to her bed?
She should make him institutionalized, declared incompetent and the property should become hers and yours.
Wild kingdom in my back yard!
It's my day off, and I was standing at the kitchen window, noticing two thrushes (large reddish birds) all riled up. I was about to tell DH that how funny they were acting when I noticed a black lump on the tree that seemed to be the center of attention. There was a large snake coiled on the side of the bradford tree trunk! Not only were the thrushes yelling and jumping at it, now and then other birds were getting into the act, like a robin that would dive-bomb it. The yard was alive with chatter over the out-of-place intruder. Despite the fact that I was still in my jammies, I armed myself with a hoe and went out to fight the good fight. DH joined me. What was great was that the birds didn't mind how close we got to them. It was like they could tolerate anybody that was involved in the fierce battle against the invading predator. Since the snake wasn't wound around very well, and had most of his bulk on one side of the trunk, it wasn't too hard to dislodge him, but I took time to study his head shape, which was quite beautiful if you can appreciate a nice nonpoisonous snake. We decided it was the black racer snake rather than the rat snake we've seen before. So we and these birds were arguing with a very cranky snake, LOL. Once I had ID'd him we finished dislodging him. He plopped 3 feet to the soft pine-needled ground below and remained semi-coiled. The birds moved down to the ground and continued a fabulous display with cocked wings and upright tails and wide-open mouths, jumping and flying in the face of the enemy. As the black snake coiled and struck out at the birds, he revealed the ugly truth; his abdomen bulged with a recent meal. Apparently eggs or babies were already lost to the fiend!

We were sad for the birds, especially since we have made no attempt to discourage the snakes from living in our yard. They are supposed to control mice and moles - not birds.


Pretty wild about David Ducouvne

That's an addiction you don't hear very much about even though it is out there. 


Don't forget the Wild Card Round
Any three of them could be back.
Actually, we bake cornish hens with wild rice.
Glaze is made with melted butter, brown sugar, worcestershire sauce.
Well, tigers in zoos now never knew life in wild and
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the wild west of oregon! go east to see family...
every year. my sis brought me to NYC one year and that did it, i was hooked on handbags! originally from the big city and forgot how many good buys there are if you look for them!
Running wild all summer in the surrounding citrus orchards - sm
- Also the small town (which it isn't anymore) 4th of July parade, and how excited my dad would get about the fireworks.
- First trip to Yosemite & Lake Tahoe in 1960. Back then the park was practically empty in late August.
- Neighbors who showed Disney movies for all the kids in the neighborhood for free on summer Sat. nights.
- Halloween when I was 10, and trick-or-treating with no parents along. Kids sure can't do that now.
- The nearby thoroughbred horse farm, where we used to sneak into the *old guys'* pasture, climb aboard, and ride them around. It's a wonder we weren't killed...
- *Sledding* down hills on dried-out grass on big pieces of cardboard.
- Tire races! (Put small kid in large tire at top of hill, roll tire down hill. Resulting dizziness of said small kid was VERY funny. Tire & kid that go the farthest before falling over is the winner.)
- Building our own wagons, go-karts, tree-forts, stick-horses, bird-houses, etc. without adults to tell us the *right* way to do it. Much more fun our way.
- Playing in construction sites. We once found a HUGE beam that was eventually going to be a main ceiling beam, and with about 15 kids' help, were able to drag it to a spot where we could turn it into a GIANT see-saw. You could put about 8 kids on either side, and it went REALLY high.
- Going to my friend's house on Sunday nights to watch Bonanza - in COLOR! (Everyone else in the neighborhood had blk. & wht.)
Cornish hens with a glaze and a wild rice stuffing? nm
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roasted veggies and sauteed tofu with wild rice, and salad. nm
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Use beans to stabilze blood sugar, yams, brown and wild rice, hearty
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groundhogs,squirrels, wild turkeys, rabbits, raccoon, goat and deer meat..sm

Some folks just take for granted that they can walk into a market and shop for meat...We've done the same for similar reasons as you and nothing was wasted.   At least you're self sufficient!!!  And, I bet you've put up/canned/frozen all the vegetables from the summer/fall harvest.   


Didn't mean to be flippant in my earlier post...whack it, hack it, pack it and stack it...  Cat 


  


 


Where dogs came from (sm)
A newly discovered chapter in the Book of Genesis has provided the answer to 'Where do pets come from?'

Adam and Eve said, 'Lord, when we were in the garden, you walked with us every day. Now we do not see you any more. We are lonesome here, and it is difficult for us to remember how much you love us.'

And God said, I will create a companion for you that will be with you and who will be a reflection of my love for you, so that you will love me even when you cannot see me. Regardless of how selfish or childish or unlovable you may be, this new companion will accept you as you are and will love you as I do, in spite of yourselves.'

And God created a new animal to be a companion for Adam and Eve.
And it was a good animal.
And God was pleased.

And the new animal was pleased to be with Adam and Eve and he wagged his tail.
And Adam said, 'Lord, I have already named all the animals in the Kingdom and I cannot think of a name for this new animal.'

And God said, ' I have created this new animal to be a reflection of my love for you, his name will be a reflection of my own name, and you will call him DOG.'

And Dog lived with Adam and Eve and was a companion to them and loved them.

And they were comforted.

And God was pleased.

And Dog was content and wagged his tail.

After a while, it came to pass that an angel came to the Lord and said, 'Lord, Adam and Eve have become filled with pride. They strut and preen like peacocks and they believe they are worthy of adoration. Dog has indeed taught them that they are loved, but perhaps too well.'

And God said, I will create for them a companion who will be with them and who will see them as they are. The companion will remind them of their limitations, so they will know that they are not always worthy of adoration.'

And God created CAT to be a companion to Adam and Eve.

And Cat would not obey them. And when Adam and Eve gazed into Cat's eyes, they were reminded that they were not the supreme beings.

And Adam and Eve learned humility.

And they were greatly improved.

And God was pleased

And Dog was happy.


And Cat didn't give a hoot one way or the other.
dogs
I love that - this year, my niece's huge yellow Lab grabbed a pie off the dessert table. Needless to say, nephew put the dog outside. We all thought it was funny - niece did not!
dogs
What breed are your dogs? The darker one looks like she has Boxer markings, but I have never seen one like the blond. Reminds me of a G.S. Beautiful dogs, no matter what they are!!
Oh and he's not alone. He has 2 other dogs with him.
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Outside dogs (sm)
Outside we have a Boykin Spaniel (you can get these sometimes from rescue centers, Google if interested) and we have a mixed breed - Basenji and probably lab. Both have plenty of fur but not too much and love to be outdoors.
hot dogs....
kosher and nonkosher to cover all your bases.

I only like ketchup but you know there are those that want everything, so ketchup, mustard, mayo(yuck), relish, onions, chili?

hot dogs and brats...cover all your bases.....same on toppings...EVERYTHING!

If you have the space, fries are great when it's cooler weather.

Can/bottled drinks probably the best best. Less space, more drink for the buck anyway.


dogs

Uggg.  I feel for you.  At least the dog isn't being abused but I understand your frustration.


BTW you get the little icon thingies when you click "post reply to this message".  They should be right underneath the message box and just click on the ones you want.  Don't click "quick reply" because then they don't pop up. 


dogs
as a child, we had a rat terrior, irish setter and german shepherd - and daddy always had beagles.

as an adult, we have had a german shepherd, beagle, toy fox terrior, cocker spaniel, collie, border collie and right now we have a corgi and a chocolate lab.
Dogs
Since I was a little kid, Dad has always had dogs.  I remember we had a black lab, a brittney spaniel, a toy poodle (wretched dog), a German short-hair, and 2 mutts.  He and Mom now have another black lab.  My sheltie, Casey, just died this summer.  Now I have 4 cats.  The last one (a calico kitten) got dropped off (we live on a farm and it happens all the time!) the week after my dog died and just suckered me in. 
I have two dogs
They love me and are all over me every chance they get. Most dogs love me. The dog next door will look at my kitchen window and if she sees me, she will wag her tail and bark until I come out and pet her.

I am horribly afraid of German Shepherds. I got bit near my eye by one. My BIL has 2 of these dogs and they can tell I don't like them. But they just avoid me.

Now my friend who lives about a mile from me has a small dog and that dog hates me with a passion. It gets so upset and snarly when it even hears my van. I refuse to go in her house until that thing is caged. Am I bad person? I don't think so. Funny thing, I drive past her house to pick my girls up from school. They have a couch in front of a big window and every day when it is time for me to go by, that dog gets up on the couch and when I drive by it freaks.
I have 3 dogs
My newest addition is a dauchshound puppy.  I got her back in March (or maybe April - can't remember).  Anyway, she is  now 9 months old and all puppy.  She is relentless with my other 2 dogs, especially my little Maltese who is 7 years old.  Just runs around her, nipping at her tail, and racing away.  I know she's playing but it's NOT a game to my little white furball.  And she doesn't quit!  So, when you have had this situation, how do you stop it?  How do I get this puppy to understand that she needs to stop this behavior?    Other then this annoying habit of hers, she's a wonderful, funny, loving little girl!
Dogs!!
do you have a picture of yours? My dogs are the sweetest things, but they are DEFINITELY barkers if they hear anything outside and I agree with you, people can break in, but if they hear those dogs barkin, they are PROBABLY gonna turn right around and go somewhere else!!!
dogs
Boston terriors are great with kids and a great family dog.
Are the dogs okay if they don't see each other?

Years ago when I lived in Detroit and we had chain link fences, there was a nylon type of material that you could get to weave in and out of the chain links in the fence.  Sort of like the stuff that the old style folding outdoor chairs were made of.  It gave you privacy in terms of not being able to see on the other side, but you could still hear everything.  Would the dogs still go nuts if they could hear and smell each other, but not see each other?


The nylon in the fence is old school and not necessarily pretty, but it might work.


I have 2 dogs........... sm
and my Chow, Butch, will not let "Old Yeller" eat. He chases him off. Butch is an older dog and rather grumpy to Old Yeller, so my son has started bringing Old Yeller inside the utility room so he can get a decent meal. I don't keep food out at all times because my dogs are outside dogs, but if you have a self-feeder or keep food out all the time, sounds like the distance between the bowls is a good idea.
We also take the dogs with us sometimes - sm
depends on where we are going and what we are doing. We do a lot of camping and boating, so this one place we go to and rent a cabin allows animals so we do take them there sometimes. Usually it is just easier to leave them home, plus downsized our truck from a Suburban to a Trailblazer so unless we put everything in the boat, there is no room in the car/truck for the dogs, lab and extra-large husky. (or we only take the lab, but I feel bad when we do that!)
I am doing all I can for the dogs....sm
I am using my gas to go back and forth to their house to make sure the dogs are eating and get to go out, etc. I love dogs but I have 2 inside to care for, 1 out in a fenced in yard that I out of the goodness of my heart because I am a succer for dogs rescued and I put her in my back fenced in yard and take care of her. Then I have my husbands beagles I take care of while he is gone out of town working. I have approximately 13 dogs to care for on a daily basis. Only 3 of them are mine. I think I am a pretty nice person to take the responsibility of cleaning the beagles pens everyday and feeding them and giving them attention. FIve of them belong to my husband and five belong to a friend of his. I do all this for all these dogs because I love them. With caring for so many dogs already I think it is kind of rude of them to even ask me to take there 2 dogs too and take care of them. When they asked I did show reluctance and said I dont know. Then finally I said I guess. I think they should board their dogs at the vets or pay a sitter, etc. I have 2 dogs in the house. I have never tried to pawn my dogs off on other people. If I knew someone genuinely did not mind it would be different but they had to see the hesitancy I had to begin with. They do this all the time. They are frequently asking for somone to keep their dogs. Well about a year ago I told them I would no longer be able to keep their 2 dogs because I have 2 in the house and 2 more is too many inside. So then they started getting her brother and his wife to keep them. I guess they got tired of it and stopped keeping them cause then they started boarding them. Well that costs money so they are back to asking me. Well I will not keep them anymore for 2 reasons.
1. The dogs are not well behaved dogs. They act like wild animals in the house.
2. One of them is not properly house trained and will pee in the floor or poop.
3. I have 2 dogs already and 4 in the house is too much.

As for my dog not being neutered he is in his own house. I didn't ask them to bring their dogs over here and my husband specifically asked is she in heat. My female is spayed. If they are going to be leaving the dog frequently they need to have her spayed so they don't have this problem. As for me I will not keep them anymore even if she was spayed simply because the dogs are like wild animals.
Great dogs...sm
The little weiners are one of the best dogs.  Great personalities.  The only thing negative is when puppies they chew on everything!  We had just remodeling our house when we got a puppy.  I lost a new comforter and a specially made quilt in one room, two new pillows in another and some chewed up table legs and rocker.  She also ate her bed!  They do outgrow this though. Unfortunately, we lost "Shelly" to a hit and run while my son was in the hospital.  I do plan to get another one some day.
No hot dogs either! Nope.
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All about dogs and aspirin
Aspirin has the same problems in dogs that it has in people. It can cause gastrointestinal upsets and ulcers if the GI signs are ignored. It can cause renal failure if overdosed. It causes an increase in clotting time. This usually isn't a serious side effect but it does occur. Despite these shortcomings it has a lot of beneficial effects and it is inexpensive. The currently recommended dosage of aspirin varies a little from publication to publication but it is between 5 and 15mg/lb every 12 hours. Since there is a range I usually pick the middle of it and go for about 10mg/lb every 12 hours. This works well and seems to be pretty safe. That works out to an aspirin tablet per 32 pounds of body weight twice a day. I have to admit that I rarely advise giving more than 2 aspirin twice a day despite the fact that some big dogs could obviously take more based on the per pound calculation.
Seizures in dogs. sm
It really varies.  My chihuahua sustained a brain injury at the age of 4 (baseball); and she started having seizures.  They were terrible.  They only lasted about 5 minutes but felt like hours.  I finally got a vet to put her on phenobarbital and she never had another seizure the rest of her life.  The vet said some dogs respond, others do not.  As mentioned, she had brain injury and vet was skeptical, but it worked for us.  Good luck.
dogs are better than people in most
instances. I have 3 and would never cage or kennel them. They are like my children and live where ever they choose to in the house. They have a specific place in the back yard for their "business" and have not had any accidents in the house because my husband and I have trained them properly. They are my best friends.