I disagree with that...Gab is for all but not for religious discussions I guess so (sm)
Posted By: HollyJolly on 2007-12-06
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It would only be fair to give others who are non-Christian but want to discuss religion a forum to do so. The thing is I am a Christian but I love to hear others' points of view as well. But if we can't discuss that on Gab board, and can't discuss it on Christianity board because it would be offensive, then I guess we can't discuss it here at all?
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Then why engage in discussions about AI
If someone doesn't like AI, why post or read anything having to do with AI. Why come to a thread just to start trouble. Some of us happen to like it and like to discuss it. It's fine if you don't, but then don't participate in the discussion.
Get out when not working - exercise class, knitting group, book discussions, cooking class, library
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This is exactly why some of us are not religious ! LOL
I am quite content with my life the way it is, thank you :)
please get off your religious soapbox....SM
How DARE you infer that anyone who isn't *born again* isn't getting into heaven......You are insulting the black community and the Jewish and Muslim communities among MANY OTHERS.
Please get off your religious fanatic soapbox.............
FOR. I don't see them as a religious statement - sm
but rather, a statement of love for the person who died there, an expression of sadness that they were lost, and a little reminder to everyone else driving past it to back off on the throttle a little bit.
Actually, certain religious groups have to earn their
way to Heaven by "saving" people - getting them to hear the salvation message and be "born again"...They keep a tally, and believe that God keeps a tally, and first of all earn their place in heaven and then lots of bonus perks - some jewels in crowns, certain seats at the big old banquet table, positions of authority, etc. In particular, the Jehovahs' W group focuses on this. Poor things - they want us to believe that Heaven is for everyone, while they are busy earning bonus points - sort of like the old Green Stamp days, or earning frequent flyer miles! So, they don't care that they are obnoxious and in our faces - they believe this is what they have to do, and it has its perks in their sick minds. Poor things. And I believe this confrontational style in any religion turns away far more than it saves - even THE savior was meek and nonconfrontational - he never forced himself on anyone - but some just don't get it...though they will some day.
No MT, politics or religious posts here. NM
Goldbird
I'd still like a place to discuss religious
or nonreligious beliefs for those of us who are not Christian. I'm sure that is not allowed on the Gab board, which is okay, but where does one go then?
I love hearing other points of view if they are willing to hear mine, and that certainly goes for Christians as well.
Have you spoken with your religious advisor?
If you have one, you might want to try that route. It may be that because she was so well-behaved before that talking with someone she respects would make her realize how bad her behavior is. Kids at that age can be awful; I know I was. I never did drugs or drank, but I really resented my parents for always being on my back. I think with the situation she is in now, you need to stay a step ahead of her. Good luck. I'll be thinking of you.
No, not adherence to religious dogma at all (sm)
Christians believe that every person on Earth is a sinner, and for our sins to be forgiven, we believe that Jesus was and is God's son and that we can pray to God and tell him that we believe Jesus died for our sins. There is plenty of evidence to be found to show that Jesus was not just some nice guy or prophet who died on a cross. Believe me, I looked into it when I had doubts. As for adherence to religious dogma, if you study the teachings of Jesus himself, you will see that he was against those who clung too tightly to their religious beliefs, the Pharisees, who thought they were better than others. Jesus did not hang around ultra-religious pious people, but instead hung around those who were hated in their community, and caused quite a bit of gossip because of it. He stopped the stoning of a woman who was caught having unmarried sex with someone else's husband and said let he who is without sin cast the first stone. No one threw a stone. That is how it is supposed to be.
Ask your religious leader what he thinks about
it -- isn't that why they make those tithe envelopes with stubs on them? I claim all deductions that I have a record of.
The hyper-religious phase
The world's hyper-religious phase is almost out of style,but it has been a long run don't you think?
I taught sunday school for years and I was considered not "religious enough." The next generations will not care for all the "in your face" stuff either.
All the same, you still have a lot to do to get down to two trucks and looks like DH is ready to leave yesterday! So I won't pray for you, but I will say get busy!
Religious conviction is a narrow road for some.
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Btw, wasnt thinkin of this from a religious standpoint
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There is a religious not hygenic reason for circumcision.
Like so many Jewish commandments, the brit milah is commonly perceived to be a hygienic measure; however the biblical text states the reason for this commandment quite clearly: circumcision is an outward physical sign of the eternal covenant between G-d and the Jewish people. It is also a sign that the Jewish people will be perpetuated through the circumcised man. The health benefits of this practice are merely incidental. It is worth noting, however, that circumcised males have a lower risk of certain cancers, and the sexual partners of circumcised males also have a lower risk of certain cancers.
The commandment is binding upon both the father of the child and the child himself. If a father does not have his son circumcised, the son is obligated to have himself circumcised as soon as he becomes an adult. A person who is uncircumcised suffers the penalty of kareit, spiritual excision; in other words, regardless of how good a Jew he is in all other ways, a man has no place in the World to Come if he is uncircumcised.
Religious difference between husband and wife?
I am Christian and interested in a guy who is Jewish. What are the pros and cons of marrying someone from other religion?
Give me a broader view of problems that can arise in a relationship when your spouse is from other religion in general and Christian/Jewish marriages in particular.
TIA.
adminstrator...can we have a religious political radical board until the election?...sm
so as not to disturb the rest of the flotsam and jetsam of the gab board? So far everyone has been reasonable... Cat
Religious posts and political posts go to appropriate boards. NM
Goldbird
Disagree with you on this
Happened to my father and it falls under the category of elderly abuse, same as if you beat old folks up. My father had no dementia but after his spouse passing, the younger married women moved in on him. He had lots of money. A person likes attention from someone they think finds them attractive. He had plenty of friends and associates, did not spend lonely times at home, nothing like that- just thought the wonen were interested in him sexually. He gave away over $100,000.00 to 1 woman I found out after he was killed in accident - get this, going to see her!
I disagree!!!!
Frenchie willingly posed completely topless for money for a website that reportedly was also using underage girls and apparently did not have a good reputation. Antonella posed with her friends and I believe a boyfriend and they betrayed her and put her pictures on the internet behind her back. They were really not even *nude* photos. I'm not saying they're not bad but then again in today's world is there anything left that would be really shocking? I definitely disagree that this was even similar to Frenchie's situation and her playing the race card is oh so typical and sickening to me. Some things never change. The only thing Antonella is guilty of is being a lousy singer.
I disagree and here's why - sm
While I may disagree with the idea of abortion, I am also completely against someone taking away a choice that is MINE, whatever the reason may be.
I don't understand why so many people don't try to look at the bigger picture. There are many reasons why a woman might choose abortion, not just as a form of birth control.
Can you honestly say if you knew a woman or girl was raped or became pregnant by incestuous means that you would prefer to traumatize her further by forcing her to carry a baby to term? I know the baby is an innocent that didn't ask for what happens. I struggle with that thought too but... I also believe that is one less baby who would probably be neglected, abused, or worse because that same woman or girl feels pressure to keep this baby.
If you are lucky enough to have never suffered a brutal rape, you could not possibly understand. If you have and you still feel this way, you are stronger than many many many women.
Disagree with you sm
I'm not going to get into a religious war but a TRUE Christian would never dress like that!
I disagree
I was both in the military and legally drinking when I was 18. Husband, whom I met and married in the military when I was still a teen, entered when he graduated high school at 17. We did not have a problem with drinking responsibly and neither did most of our fellow soldiers at that age. In fact, most of the young soldiers just out of high school are way more responsible than the average college student years older because that responsibility and accountability is demanded of them by the military and is generally not demanded in civilian life.
People trying to take away even more responsibility/accountability by excusing bad behavior because of the "youth" of people that are legally adults are creating the problem by refusing to put the accountability for said bad behavior exactly where it belongs--on the people behaving irresponsibly, and likely on the parents for not instilling the knowledge that there are consequences for bad actions. Budweiser is not responsible for their idiocy. Jack Daniels is not responsible for their stupidity. They are.
Oh I so disagree with you
I tried and tried, did things my g'children loved but I did NOT want them playing on my company computer and my company machines, not mine but if I asked them to come out of the room then the DIL thought I was wrong because at the other g'parents home they could do everything they wanted? As a PARENT you have to instill the fact there is not just 1 set of parents, usually 2 - maternal as well as paternal and both should be able to spend time with the kids. It is terribly unfair otherwise just to be 1 sided and this is exactly what happened in my case. I had no say in my being bypassed. My DIL so entangled in her family, my side didn’t and still doesn’t count. I eventually gave up- I did not want to compete for attention.
I disagree...I think you are looking too far into this...
her children obviously don't want to go for a reason because they are crying not to go...sounds to me like something the grandmother is doing and not the mother...rememeber she asked for opinions not judgement...
I disagree
Spanking doesn't have to be abusive. It doesn't have to be done with a belt buckle, or something that will inflict undue harm.
The power of spanking is humiliation. Using your hand or a folded magazine to sting the kid's buttocks or upper back thighs is not going to scar them, physically or emotionally. What it does do is let them know their behavior is unacceptable and has consequences.
Throughout human history, the majority of people have used spanking as discipline - notice I said discipline not punishment - and I would say the human race has managed to make progress. So, spanking can't be that awful.
I was spanked 3 times in my childhood and I have never laid a hand on anyone in my life. So, the theory about spanking making the recipient into an abuser is just bunk. Tens of thousands of us were spanked as kids, and we turned out fine.
I am not advocating out of control parents beating kids within an inch of their life - but I do think a swat on the bottom isn't the end of the world for any kid.
I do wish people weren't so afraid of kids today - kids have way too much power and adults need to take it back. We're aren't doing these kids any favors by giving them the run of the place.
I could not disagree more
I see no reason whatsoever to have a girl on hormones to "manage" her for her entire life in one way or another, to me that is repression. I also disagree that being a woman causes "needless suffering." Seems like men have simply perverted the normal for monetary gain and insist on managing every miniscule aspect of our bodies. It does not take much to convince a woman that if she is okay she is an exception to the rule.
I disagree...
my husband and I each have an e-mail account with our own passwords and I am sure that if I asked, he would give me the password, but I really have no reason to read his e-mail. Don't you think that he should be able to have something of his own? I have nothing to hide in my e-mail, but have never even thought to offer up my password. Frankly, I would be offended should he ever ask for it.
Sorry, but I disagree...
That is great that you are happy and not having orgasm, but not everyone feels that way. It does not mean that is the only 'glue' in the marriage, but it is an important component to many marriages, and that's okay.
I disagree...
I think that if you lose your honor, it is a bad example for your children. I am not saying that she should not make sure that she gets some money, but it is dishonorable and bad for the children to take it all. I watched it happen and I don't think it is good for the children. Also, kids know more than you think. If you feel you are resorting to something, you are doing the wrong thing. I watched my mother act in a way that she taught me to be better than. I will never regain that respect. And it was never about us. It was about revenge. My point was that women should be careful of stooping to those levels, it happens a lot. I was not defending the husband. He might be a horrible person or he might be okay; I have no idea. The OP cannot control his actions, but she can control her own.
You can disagree all you want but if you
don’t notice either a rapid weight gain or weight loss, then you don’t really know your body. I have a scale at home, maybe you should invest in another or just do what you want with the deal about weighing. I am not going to, don’t have to but whatever floats your boat.
Disagree with you
There are many reasons why a child flies alone but that aside, what is the big deal? They are supposed to be assigned a flight attendant at that age to chaperone them. Obviously there were a bunch of incompetent people at every step of the way. I have flown alone many times as a young kid - no biggie if people are doing their jobs the way they are supposed to. The airline is absolutely at fault here.
well...I both agree and disagree...
I agree that your feelings of being attacked are valid. As a preacher, he should know better than to judge you or your family.
On the other hand though, I would not do such a display, and that is just me! I don't decorate much for Halloween, maybe a few Jack-o-lanterns, but that's about it. And only cause the kids like making them. Sounds as though your decorations are pretty elaborate, though. To each her own...have fun!!!
I am sure people with disagree with me but...sm
I think the school has told you what they can and cannot do...it is now up to YOU as her parents to make up the difference. You stated that your daughter has ADD, which in itself requires more attentional than a student without it. With 27 children in a classroom, which unfortunately is what almost all of us face with public school, the teachers just do not have the time to focus on children with special needs. If she were my child, I would put however many hours it would take at home to work with you. And if you can, go to the school and work in her classroom. Most teachers beg parents to become helpers in the classroom.
I have a 17-year-old nephew who cannot read at all but has been passed from grade to grade. His parents basically blamed the school system instead of working outside of school with him. I do not agree that he should be passed on from one grade to another, but unfortunately that is what happens to most of these kids....the schools won't flunk kids anymore because of no child left behind.
Bottom line...try every avenue open to you at home...Sylvan or private tutor or whatever is available.
I have to respectfully disagree with you on this. If it
costs him his job and his reputation, that is entirely his own fault. This may not be the first time something like this happened and if he gets away with it, it probably will not be the last time either. Who knows what it could escalate to with someone else. I would not appreciate that kind of comment made to my 24-year-old daughter and would not hesitate for one minute to report it to management. That is absolutely and completely unacceptable from anyone for any reason. He admitted he thought she was pretty and was maybe overly friendly, so, obviously he knows he's wrong and should suffer the repercussions from his inappropriate behavior. 
Disagree on aspirin
We used to prescribe Ascripton all the time to dogs with arthritis. My dog has been on one to two a day for several years now. Also my neighbors dog has been on aspirin for his arthritis. Just like people you have to watch for bleeding or hemorrhage but when she had a benign growth removed last August her blood work was better than that of an 8 year old dog. Again you have to watch for the signs of GI bleeding but it is not as potentially dangerous as the NSAID's are to the liver. Read about those side effects. I have been given hand outs on the use of aspirin by several vet's. So again -- I disagree with you.
yes..we can agree to disagree...sm
I will always take an animal's side over a humans. They cannot defend themselves. I was not judging YOU personally and you did not need to explain yourself to me. I never asked that you do. I was addressing *craters* to those that choose that over spending the time to properly train. I will argue this point no more, and I am sure you will be happy with that. you are just wrong too. have a good evening.
Others may disagree with me, but since it is cooked
I think it would be fine.
Agree or disagree
An Associates Degree isn't worth the paper its printed on. Agree or disagree?
There was lunchtime conversation about this today. One person said an Associates degree is useless because it won't help you get a better job than just having a GED or Diploma. Not worth the paper its printed on.
Another said a 2 year degree is a total waste of money. You save a lot of money by choosing a 4 year college and totally bypassing a 2 year program altogether.
Another said a batchelors degree is losing its value now & unless you have a Master's you can't get too far in any field.
Of course a masters degree would be better to have than an associates & a PHD would be even better, but doesn't an associates degree still have meaning? What do you think?
I agree and disagree....I think and would
love to see women 40 and over on VS. To see these children in ads is disheartening. Friends and I have taken polls - young people in VS with older women or just the young ones. Everyone said older women too. Older women are more sexier, confident, funny, secure, sexual and know what they want. The young ones are insecure, money hungry, have no idea what a relatinship is, and lastly, do not know about life and that life is not fun. It is hard and you have to give in order to receive. It is not all about good looks and a good body!!!
I disagree with the other poster
While forgiveness is divine, forgetting is just plain dumb. I would not let this incident go by without discussing it with the mother of the daughter as well as the teacher and the school principal. Personal space or not, that girl had no right to put her hands on your son. She was not defending herself. She was not in harms' way. If she gets away with this now, it will only continue. In public school, this kind of thing would be handled by suspension of the girl. Boy or girl, big or small, every child has the right to feel safe in school. That's one of the fundamental rights of all children. See to it that this private school enforces it. Only you can make them accountable.
I realize how angry you must be right now, but hopefully by posting this and sleeping on it tonight, you'll be able to compose yourself enough to handle this maturely.
I disagree with that old adage...
My mother remarried when I was 7 and my brother 12. My stepfather brought four kids into the family ages 5, 7, 9 and 12. Back in those days (1967) we respected people and had manners. We had problems at first but quickly became a blended family of 8. Perhaps because my parents sat us down before they married and explained that neither parent was taking the place of the biological parent.
We are all now in our late 40's to 50's and see each other on a daily basis. My brother remarried and adopted his stepdaughter. I do not think of my brothers and sisters as "step" and I call my stepfather dad and he always referred to me as his daughter - not his stepdaughter.
Bottom line, blood is not thicker than water unless you want it to be.
I have to disagree with some of these points
I do know that my natural gas bill, which is what I would be heating with, was WAY more than my electric bill. So I totally disagree with the statement that gas central heat is cheaper. My last heating bill 3 years ago (which only included gas) was $450 for one month.
What you posted says it uses .12 cph, which would equal approx $90 for 30 days, I could put 5 of them in my home before I reached my last gas bill!
Is this for everyone, no. Should it be used as a constant source of heat, probably not for most households (some single people might get away with it).
Really the only thing I saw in the article you posted against this heater was the cost of the heater. I am willing to pay that because I happen to want something that looks nice. This has a 30-day money back guarantee and a one year warranty.
Where I live anything that you can do to turn the thermostat down, if you use gas, will save you money. I need to heat my house 24/7 for about 7 months out of the year, if I had to pay for natural gas I don't know what I would do.
Heartily disagree with some of those...
I love the post office. For 42 cents, they will take my card or letter all the way across the US, to Alaska or Hawaii! I think it's the greatest bargain going. (And, no, I don't know anyone who works for the post office.)
Secondly, I would NEVER give up my land line on my telephone. Try dealing with a few conversations getting choppy and incomprehensible on a cell. Cell phones have their place, but their quality is pretty poor compared to that line stretched on the poles.
While I disagree with you... I am curious
What "chemical change" do you think it causes in their bodies? I have a bachelor's degree in Animal Science, which is mostly production, and I know that withdrawal periods on growth hormones are very long. Most cattle would get their last ear implant at 3 months of age. We generally butcher at 2 years of age. They are moved from grass to grain slowly and the change that it produces is in the microbial content of their stomachs, which is something that we do not eat. Since ruminants digest with the aid of microbes, you cannot just move them straight to grain because they cannot process it. The muscle stays the same chemically. The reason for grain finished beef is that consumers pay more money for a higher intramuscular fat content. This is what makes your steak juicy. All beef (grass fed or otherwise) has extramuscular fat trimmed to 1/4" thickness. It is only the marbling that changes from grade to grade. Personally, I am convinced that most foods are good for you, if not taken to excess. Ruminants are the only natural source of B-complex vitamins, as their bodies produce them and ours do not. You can take a vitamin, but it is usually made from beef. Corn finished beef. The only reason for corn finishing versus raising them on corn to start with is that corn is very expensive. Fat is the most expensive part of any animal's diet, so finishing is cost effective.
There are a few ways to disagree. You can
respectfully diagree, and you can be nasty and bash. The latter would be the troll.
Because I disagree, that makes me
miserable. You have no idea what kind of life I have, which by the way seems almost A letter perfect compared to most I read on this board. If I should need help, I certainly do not try to find on a forum with people who are total strangers to me and could not give me a helping hand if need be. You speak as though you are on a first name basis with these other people when in actuality you would not even know them if they walked up to your door. I would think the original poster grown; however to ask did she miss a bullet when turning down giving a ride to 2 strangers and she has to ask??? I say again, she should not be out by herself, the next time she might make a different decision and it end her life. Oh, I'm not perfect but I sure have common sense and use it and never have to ask you or others on this board for answers anyone over the age of 8 or 9 should already know.
I strongly disagree!.
I think everybody remembers the 'first time'.
It is said that no woman forgets her first lover and even if they might part, she will always have a special place in her heart for him. (Well, not everyone, it depends on him, too)
Not that I disagree well to a degree
I am sorry, but you are comparing an animal rescue to human babies; no, no, no. Animals can fend for themselves if left alone, but babies cannot.
No, she should not have gone out and did it again, but it goes along the same lines as people who do not believe in abortion. JMHO.
I'm sure the faith board would have a field day with your temperament here.
What is the difference between what this girl did and what other families that have multiple children do? Not a thing. There's a show on called Jon and Kate plus eight or something like that; check it out sometime. That mother works hard.
Another thing is, some people just want to be famous, so this is her style. I'm just not sure I agree with the "what are you thinking?" She wanted children, and now she's got them and if people feel compelled to help her, then so be it.
By the way, I believe in choice as far as abortion goes, so I'm not welcome on the fath board either, I'm sure, since most believe that abortion should be banned.
Believe me, I see where you are coming from to a degree regarding having babies on purpose, but comparing babies to animals just doesn't settle too well with me. 
I disagree with most on this issue...
I do NOT think that the counselor should have said anything to the girl's parents at all. If she were pregnant, it would be evident soon enough. It is irresponsible for an adult to lend any credibility to this sort of gossip at all, not to mention embarassing to the girl to whom it happened. I had a similar situation in Junior High, only involving smoking and not pregnancy (which I understand is a big difference), but I was a straight A student who was horrified that I was accused of something that I never would have done. I can't imagine if it had been a pregnant rumor. Adults should not get in the middle of mean adolescent gossip, it only lends it validation.
I must disagree with that. My husband
would ask that 'we' buy her groceries or necessities since she's a mother because he has a kind heart, but he wouldn't do it to feel like a hero, and he wouldn't go to that extreme of $500, ESPECIALLY without consulting me, and I would venture to say if it came to that, he would want me to handle it so that it wouldn't look improper. This is FLIRTING at the very least, if not more, and I think she should confront the situation. I'm sure her husband would not like it if the roles were reversed & it was his wife & another man. The feelings of your spouse come first, and if the woman is in need, it's something they should address as a couple if THEY decide to help her out.
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