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I can totally relate to this post.

Posted By: see inside on 2007-12-14
In Reply to: Isolation is tough sm - Anon

When I take the kids to the pool in the summer (at home full-time), I feel guilty that I'm not at home typing.  It is totally ridiculous.  I really do like my work and at 37, I am making an effort to try and get out with friends once in a while.  We just moved to a new town and I've met some other Moms, so I've been doing some breakfast meets.  We haven't found a church yet, but I think that's my next step to finding some social moments for myself.  The kids keep me busy, but they are in school all day. 


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