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Posted By: trose on 2007-07-28
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but will use this same lesson when we start back with our weekly youth meetings in the fall. I got the idea for this lesson from Fannie Flagg's book Can't Wait to Get to Heaven. The book is obviously fiction but has a "quirky" (most all the characters in the book are quirky-think Mayberry) person's take on heaven when she dies for just a short time and visits heaven. The book is a wonderfully funny read (just a few swear words but it is very clean). I have read all of her books and thoroughly enjoyed them all. Thank you for responding.
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I disagree. I still have my class ring (class of 1985). It's tucked away in my jewelry...
box. My fingers are too fat to wear it now, but it has sentimental value. Mine was just a metal ring as well and it still looks great.
I gave my class ring to a boyfriend back in the day and it wore it on his pinky. Then he lost it on the beach at the local lake. We ended up breaking up not too long after that and I thought I would never see my ring again. Then one day I'm reading the local paper and there's an add that said "LORI -- did you lose your class ring at city lake? Call... and describe the ring." I called the number and described the ring and it was mine. Thankfully I had had my full name inscribed inside the band of my class ring! The guy that found it was this little old man who had a one of those metal detectors and he spent his retirement days scanning beaches, parks, etc for change and what other treasures he could find. I couldn't thank him enough! He wouldn't take any kind of reward for finding it.
Just thought I'd share my class ring story. I feel that class rings, class keys (Do they still do that?), and yearbooks are such an important part of the high school years, but that's just me.
Since when is teaching the
Since hubby is lacking in consideration, empathy and manners towards his wife, he needs to be taught via "do as you wish to be done by". It is too easy for him to discount her feelings until HE feels the same way, then he'll be able to relate and maybe some house rules can be set as to property. Without any understanding of how shocked and hurt his wife feels, he'll just continue to play the nice guy to outsiders with her stuff and discount how it might hurt her. And that is also damaging to the marriage, right?
I'm teaching myself how to
It's so hard to follow a pattern! Some of the things it says I'm not sure what it means. Is there a good website that could explain some of this stuff that you know of? Thanks 
I do and I'm teaching them the morals
Show you the money!
Absolutely. Is teacher teaching sex ed also? nm
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I just KNOW ur all gonna say that teaching doesn't (sm)
pay well, either. It doesn't not in most cases. But with her skills, degree & experience, she quickly got into an unusual teaching circumstance where the pay was triple what most educators make, and later she went on to train and eventually supervise other teachers.
Agree most don't abstain and teaching that only - sm
as a lot of schools do is very narrow-minded and totally unrealistic. I remember in 7th grade health class our teacher teaching us about different forms of birth control. They had it all laid out (no pun intended) on a board with an example of each method so we could actually see a condom, diaphragm, pill, iud, etc. No idea what they do there now, this was back in 77/78--I hope they are not burying their head in the sand and saying, "don't do it", and leaving it at that. Kids need to know that if they "do it" how to prevent becoming fathers/mothers at age 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, etc. Lots of peer pressure and some just have sex because their friends were. My friends were at 14 and generally had unprotected sex, one got pregnant at 15 but miscarried; I waited until I was almost 18 and after I graduated (the boys had big mouths and I did not want a reputation as a sleaze, which is what would have happened where I went to school). When mine start having sex I will put them on BCPs and hope they use condoms too (I will also tell them about my 2 best friends with herpes); and I hope they wait until they are at least 17 and ready for it and the responsibility of being sexually active. Guess I will find out in a few years. --as for the beginning of time, yes, the past is riddled with sex, just look at all the famous paintings, and stories of lovers, etc in England and France in royalty, etc. Goes back quite a ways
No, it is an inferance and any teaching of religion -sm
should be done by the parents. I had my kids in private school up until 2 years ago, took them out for several reasons, one being that many of the teachers were teaching about God and making them pray before every meal (snack and lunch). I was paying $12K a year for my kids not to be in a church school, as this was not a religious school (or at least not supposed to be). I could have sent them to many, many cheaper schools in the area but they were all church affiliated. Some of us don't want our kids to be taught by others. I explain all the different religions to my kids, but don't want some outsider to teach their beliefs to my child. It is not their business to teach religion, if they want to do that then become a minister and run a church.
The homophobics and racists are ALREADY teaching
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Anyone have tips on teaching ESL child to read? (sm)
I have been volunteering at my children's school once a week helping some of the children in my daughter's 2nd grade class practice reading. The children having the greatest problems are the English Second Language children and I have been working more with them, but one child in particular needs help and the teacher and I have decided that I should dedicate more time to him. In his home, his parents speak Spanish (he tells me) and he has two younger siblings. He is a very sweet, very popular child at school. The problem is he doesn't even recognize all the letters in the alphabet yet, even though he has been through kindergarten and first grade (how has he passed?). Trying to teach him the sounds that correspond to the alphabet has also been difficult, because he does not know the names of common objects/animals used to teach children alphabet sounds. For example, we have been making an alphabet book, cutting pictures out of magazines and gluing them to the page with the corresponding letter at the top of the page. He calls all large animals "elephant" and cannot remember from one week to the next that the "D" animal on his page is a "dinosaur" and not an elephant. He confuses letters like "e" with "n" when he is writing the name of the animal (with me dictating the spelling to him). I want to help this child so badly, but I dont' know where to begin.
teaching kids to take responsibility for their actions
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So tired of parent teaching kids it is always other
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Need tips on teaching husband to be frugal..sm
Here is the situation...for quite some time I have been trying to be more frugal and really watch my spending and our money. It seems my husband is doing the total opposite. I asked him while at the store to get some fabric softener for the laundry. He gets an $8.00 bottle and I know this store has Downy for $4.99. To some people $3.00 may not seem like much, but over time it does add up. We do not have the extra money that we used to and he thinks nothing of spending constantly. I have said things to him and he does better for a little while, but then it gets out of control. I had to convince him that he had to get a part-time job because we were sinking fast as he changed jobs and took and major pay cut.
He even asked me today after stating he wanted to go get something from the store why are we broke? I said we are not totally broke, but we do not have the extra money to splurge either. I go days without spending money. Yes I work at home, but I do have to spend money on gas now because our oldest daughter started school this year. Her lunch is $1.75 a day, but most days she wants to take her lunch box. I am getting so frustrated with him. I work two jobs myself as well as take care of the home and our kids (2). I go to the grocery store and buy plenty of food (breakfast and lunch for him to take to work) and try to make sure that we are not going to the store just because, you end up spending way more money that way. On the days he has to go to his part-time job he comes home before going to the part-time job. I do not even see the real reason for coming home before going to the part-time job. He is only home for 15-30 minutes before going to the part-time job. The reason I think it is crazy for him to come home before going to his part-time job is the fact that it is 13 miles out of the way. He is too old to break and too lazy to make the effort to change. He is more about convenience.
Some times I think if we were to split he really would not survive. I handle all the money and frankly after 14 years I have come to the conclusion he has no money sense. He says I nickle and dime him to death, but money in his pocket is money definitely spent. He has to spend it or die and then looks pitiful when he is broke. But guess what, I'm to the point where I do not even care when he does not have money because he should be more sensible. Just as long as he has money for gas to go to work, forget carrying around money. I feel like sometimes I am having to lie about money simply because if he knows it is there he finds a reason to spend it. I told him he will never have anything because he just cannot learn to do without.
I guess I am finished fuming for now.
BTW, there really is more to it than an $8.00 bottle of fabric softener, but over time it just builds....look for a bargain at least sometimes.
The world you're teaching them to live and survive in
seems to be a very cold, harsh one. I wonder if you're as hard on yourself when you make a mistake and "forget" something.
But this is not a school-wide accepted teaching practice, it is individual (nm)
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Our public school wasn't teaching phonics so we've moved....sm
our daughter to a private school that does. Before moving her she was barely able to read because the public schools were teaching them to "read" by looking at pictures and if they knew what the picture was they would know what the word was. For the life of me I don't understand how that's supposed to teach a child to read and I told the school board that in life you don't always have pictures for everything! Our daughter's reading improved immensely once we moved her to private school and she can read anything - without pictures. :o)
I had them as an adult (sm)
I had braces from about 27 to 31 years old. It was painful - but definitely worth it. I had a crossbite that was embarassing to me for years. You will get used to wearing the braces and won't be so self-conscious soon - it's just because they're new that it's bothering you right now. And it will be worth it when you're done!
adult boy
Thank you. I hate it when people blast others.
I have adult ADD....
as well as depression, anxiety and OCD. After battling for years with just the depression symptoms, there were still concerns in my life which I thought medication and therapy could fix but didn't. These things drove me crazy...Not being able to finish a project - for example a crochet throw I have been working on for over 5 years, various projects started and left hanging, never able to keep at the same task, etc. Now with the help of Adderall I am able to focus for a few hours at a time (I do have withdrawal effects) and I am able to work with less distraction. It has not been a cure-all, but it has brought me some peace of mind being able to get my work done in a reasonable period of time, rather than having the constant urges to do other things.
he was an adult, by our standards, and would have been--sm
accountable for his own actions if he had been arrested and sent to trial. However, if there was familial abuse involved which perpetuated this act of violence, it should be addressed in some manner, but not for the parents to be held accountable for what he did as a result of it. Sometimes even knowing about a person's difficulties is not enough to change them or prevent them from doing something horrible like this. Obviously there were a lot of people, in retrospect, who felt this person had severe problems and they chose to do nothing about it either. He was seeing a therapist, but should the therapist be held accountable, as well? It just comes down to every one being accountable for their own actions.
No, he is an adult and responsible for himself.
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on adult swim
I've seen it.....What about The Boondocks or South Park? I have too have a sick and twisted sense of humor.....
Too bad some responsible adult...
could not get those kids. We have a celebutard, immature, crazy mother against a wanna be anything hanger on who is only interested in money...some role models! I hope there is money put away for the therapy those kids will need. The parents even give white trash a bad name!
Adult Behavioral Changes
Call a neurologist who specializes, one who may probabably also have a PhD in Psych. Go in by yourself if you have to and describe what you are experiencing and maybe he or she can give you some direction and information that may help you have your husband evaluated. There are tests he can administer and others that he can send him out for. There are several things that come to mind, but without evaluation this is speculation. It is possible that after you consult a neurologist that he may send you out for evaluation by either a psychologist or psychiatrist, or both. Maybe he has family members or good friends who will help you to encourage him to be evaluated? No matter the outcome, it is best if you consult someone professional who can steer you in the right direction. Best wishes to you. I will be thinking of you. Let us know how this works out.
Legally, yes, but how adult were you at 18? nm
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Perks of being an adult
Sometimes I feel like it really stinks to be an adult with all the responsibilities and stress and I'd love to go back to being a child. What are the little perks of being an adult that you have found?
I found a simple one this morning...I picked all the marshmellows out of the last bit of Lucky Charms to have extra in my bowl.  No I won't dare tell my 10yo I did that. I thought it was a better alternative to having a brownie for breakfast which is what I really wanted!
You're obviously the only ADULT between the two
Someone has to teach your daughter to have the money in hand for things you want; otherwise, when will she ever learn to work for what she wants? Handing it over BEFORE the money is made is a huge mistake.
I watched my husband do this with our son and he always said he would pay us back but he needed it NOW because it was on sale or some such garbage. He would be given more labor intensive chores around the house to make the money but never paid us back.
No matter how much I told my son he was not going to get a penny out of me without the job done first, my husband always went behind my back and bought it beforehand, gave it to him, and of course my son had absolutely no motivation to pay for anything. Long story short, he is now 23 years old and still doesn't get the point of working to pay for what you want.....
My husband is very good with money, as am I, but I was raised to pay for what you want and not on credit. Children really need to learn this lesson early on. I was always surprised my husband handed everything over to him because husband worked since he was 12 years old at jobs the labor laws would never allow now! If he wanted anything, he paid for it himself.....the end!! No discussion!
Our son is still loafing around in college, home for summer now, supposed to have a job but of course does not because he knows his dad will not do anything about it, and if I say anything, I get chewed out and disrespected by our son because he knows I have no back up.
You stick to your guns and do what is right..... you do not want her to turn out like that! Her tears will go away. She wanted to umpire, let her umpire and I would definitely tell her how her first responsibility is to umpire. NO CREDIT FOR A TEENAGER!! EVER!
2/3 class
I'm a former school teacher. As a matter of fact, I did my student teaching in a split 3rd/4th grade class. It was wonderful! It was the twice the work and preparation, but the kids were fantastic.
Kids selected for split classes are usually the best behaved, most independent workers in the class, so you should be bursting with pride that you daughter has been selected. Every other kid in the making the adjustment and will be meeting new kids, too, so I wouldn't worry about a 2nd grader being put in a new environment. Kids are extremely resilient and if she's smart, independent and motivated enough to be put in a split class, she'll more than meet the challenge of adapting to her new school environment.
Let us know how she does, OK?
Gas in Class
Yes I agree! These schools should get back to teaching! This is unreal! Getting punished for something your body does naturally? I don't think so!
you are not low class....
that poster was being rude. I feel for you. Keep being you and don't feel sorry for that! I think you are a hoot!
I'd let her out of the class. (sm)
Why break her spirit and make her lose her enthusiasm for school.
Don't kid yourself. If you had any class at all,
you wouldn't have posted your sarcastic and now condesdending remarks. You wouldn't know a standard if it walked up and slapped you in the face, at least not in this context.
maybe i have no class
and maybe i have no standards, but at least i know that i definitely would not want that man
I too met my "father" as a teen/adult.
I had always asked questions. My mom was always very honest when she felt we could handle it about why they broke up (he was abusive). He contacted my brother and me when I was 16. I met him, found out he wasn't my "dad" since that was someone who would have at least been there for me when I needed him or to even know so I consider my "father" as a sperm donor. I am glad I did meet him and have closure (like someone else mentioned) because I think I would have always been curious but I didn't pursue a relationship with him. My father-in-law has been a real dad to me but my blood relative father is not a dad.
I agree with what someone mentioned too that your mom may not have been totally honest, wanting you to not want to pursue meeting him. I was lucky, my mom never badmouthed him when we were growing up even when we had all these questions about him, why they didn't stay married, what it would be like if they had stayed together and everything else. I realize now of course my mom was smart to have gotten out at the beginning. Once an abuser always an abuser so I'm relieved now. If you want to talk about it more let me know and I'll send you my e-mail.
Maybe you can try adult conditioner. My daughter SM
has thick curly hair. I would wash it every day. She never did mind my combing or brushing it. You could also try one of those plastic brushes with bristles wide apart.
My daughter is now 32 and does her own hair.
Adult ADD? Never diagnosed but wondering (sm)
So all my life I have been disorganized, first it was papers hanging out everywhere from my notebook, now it is everything in the world stuffed in my purse. My mind wanders all the time. I do transcription but flip back and fourth between here and my work and my e-mail and other things on the net that interest me. And i have to have background noise while I do all this. My house gets very cluttered and than I have to work like a maniac to get it cleaned up but still things are kind of in haphazard places, not really organized. I just always feel overly busy, overly tired, and behind on everything. So....could I have ADD? Or am I just too busy, bored with sitting in front of the computer, and disorganized??
I was actually dxd with adult ADD several years back sm
by a psychiologist. I had symptoms similar to yours and was being treated for depression at the time and sent by my psychiatrist to this person who gave me a computer test and then gave me the same test 6-8 weeks later on medication to see if the results were different - and they definitely were. If I recall correctly it had to do with reaction times and how long my concentration was, etc. The results were a little shocking. I think I knew for years I had it - my oldest son was dxd years ago but it was just kind of lurking in the back of my mind and didn't come forward until I started having serious problems with getting my work done and making a decent living at MT... I finally took medication upped my BP so badly I had to quit. I just try to go with the flow now - I have white noise playing in the background while working, shut my door, note on it not to bother me unless house is on fire, set goals for myself and treat myself with done with work and try hard not to let emails and IMs distract me. I leave all my other chores until the very last minute/second and then rush to complete and am always late and cook everything on high and burn or overdo things as always in a hurry - can't remember all of the other things I do - they have just become a part of me. I did do much better on medication and if I seriously needed again would definitely look into another one.
My very first boxer as an adult had kennel
cough. I rescued her from a pet shop under similar circumstances. She had been there with her brother and her brother died. I refused to let her die in a pet store so brought her home took her to the vet and got her started on medication. The first month was rough, there were nights I just sat in bed and held her, she felt so miserable. She finally got through it and after that rocky start she lived to the age of 13.5 with not another medical problem the rest of her life.
Why don't you be a mom and take care of your daughter until she is an adult? sm
Boyfriend, spoiled, blah, blah. You are her parent. You need to provide her a place to live until she is old enough to do so herself. I would either allow her to move in with you and your boyfriend or I would rent her a place to live. She is not old enough to be expected to find a roommate and pay all her own bills yet. If you had done your job to begin with she wouldn't be spoiled or having such issues.
18 IS legally considered an adult.
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sounds like you will have to be the adult in this situation as the ex is not ---
and follow the mother's lead - she knows her daughter, she sees/hears the tantrums and probably way more often than you; she is being the adult in the situation as you are, so don't lose it.
food for thought: she was hurting at the funeral. sometimes people put all their hurts in one pocket and never deal with it, never heal. gram died, the pocket opened and out it all came. you may be only one situation she put away for a rainy day.
The nicest adult I know is my BEST FRIEND, because
She still likes me even though she now lives clear across the country and has new friends there. Emails me all the time, and makes it a point to get together when she's in town. She has never ever said anything mean or derrogatory to me or about me. She has also given me moral support when I was depressed, or recovering from surgery. I dont know of ANYONE who doesn't like her. Pretty rare, these days!
I'm also a big fan of adopting ADULT cats!
I don't have the time nor storage space to 'kitten-proof' my tiny, cluttered apartment. I like how quickly an adult cat will come to love me (usually just a couple days - in the case of my current one, about 2 seconds!) Also how quickly they adopt daily routine similar to mine.
They aren't totally non-destructive (I doubt if there is such an animal). One insists on sharpening her claws on my good faux-Persian rug in the living room, pulling little tufts out of it. So I try to keep them well-trimmed. The other one likes to barf up hairballs on the light tan carpet that stains more easily, but those "oxy" types of cleaners work on those.
Other than that, it's just the occasional object they may knock over and break (which I try to keep out of their reach), or the hair everywhere, which is just part of life with any pet.
I agree with the other posters, though - I wouldn't want to live without them, so I guess I'll just have to deal with the occasional mess.
Legally an 18 year old is an adult, so
therefore not a minor, however ethically a teacher should not be messing around with a student.
I knew about 2 happening in adult because
my father was diagnosed with diabetes at the age of approximately 87 or so but it also ran in his family, his mother died years earlier from renal failure, long before dialysis was around. I had always thought with type 1 that was from childhood and the doctor today said it was 1 if it ran in the family. My husband was diagnosed several years before he had to start on medications as he kept under control with diet alone, watching what he eats and not overdoing plus checking blood sugars. Thanks for your input.
curfews and adult children
We went through this with both our kids, and repeatedly I tried to get it through their heads (okay, thick skulls, lol!) that I worry about their safety, that I NEED to know that they're safe. I told them also that their driving privileges could be revoked if I saw fit (I'm not sure they believed I would actually do that, though, and I ended up never needing to go that far). But the main thing that I think finally got through to them is that I really do genuinely worry. I can't sleep peacefully when they're home from college or home visiting now, if they're not back under the roof here when they say they will be. (I don't have as big an issue with that when they're at college or living in their own place; then, a once weekly call is enough to keep my quiet!) I've also been known to ask for extra contact numbers of their friends, in case their cell phone dies or they lose it or whatever (yes, it has happened, and the extra contact numbers have come in handy). But the agreement with the extra contact numbers is that I won't use them unless there is a true emergency here or they haven't checked in at their agreed upon frequency. They don't want me to embarrass them to their friends because Mommy is checking up on them.
Whether it is safe for an 18-year-old to be out after midnight is perhaps a relative question - relative to where you live, what the night-life in your area is like, how many deer cross the backroads randomly during deer season, whether you live in an urban area with a lot of party clubs that 18yo kids don't need to be tempted to visit, etc. You get the idea.
But first and foremost, get it through her head that you need to know that she is safe, that she needs to check in with your regularly if she's going to be out late.
As for my kids - we got through those rocky years, and now when I go to visit them, they expect ME to call THEM to let them know that I arrived home safely. Life is good!
We had no curfews for our adult children.
And I consider 18 an adult.
As each of our children reached age 18, we had a frank discussion with them and laid out what we expected of them. We told them that they were now basically non-paying roommates. Because we loved them and wanted to give them a boost into adult life, we kept our home open to them, paid their living expenses, and supported them in pursuit of their dreams. But as parents, we worry. All curfews and restrictions were dropped the day they turned 18. They didn't have to tell us where they were going or what they were doing. But we asked that they not worry us. We requested that they give us approximate times of coming and going. I needed to know whether they would be eating with us, and basically at what hour I should start worrying if they hadn't returned home. I also asked that since we were paying their tuition (high school and college) that they keep good grades. Our first son was not a great student, and we told him that we did not consider paying his way to college a good investment of our hard-earned money. We asked him to prove his seriousness by working, attending community college full-time and paying the community college tuition himself. He did that, received good grades, and then transferred to a state university with our blessing and tuition assistance. Since our sons drove our cars, we told them that we would not allow them the use of our car if they stayed out later than expected without calling home or had any driving issues, or God forbid, drinking. Any major infractions, drugs, drinking, legal issues, and we'd close our home to them, as well.
The discussion was very honest. They told us what they wanted from us, too, which was to be treated as adults. That was fine with us. We gave them quite a bit. A place to live, a car to drive, an education, and respect. They gave us respect in return, and actually never stayed out very late. On occasion, if stayed out longer on weekends, they called or left text messages so that we wouldn't worry if their plans went later than expected.
Children need to learn to act like adults. We have to treat them as adults, but it's also fine to give them a bit of help as they head out into the world on their own. If your child is a responsible teenager, likely the transition to adulthood won't be so bumpy (but do expect a few bumps). Just sit down and talk about expectations, listen to your child, and come to an agreement. I think that I enjoy my adult relationship with my children much more than I did when they were young. And after all, if we live out even an average life span, we will know our children as adults much longer than we know them as children. Best to get use to them being adults!
I wore them as an adult for 18 months - sm
Nobody likes wearing them, but you will eventually get used to them and what you can and cannot do while wearing them and practically forget they are there. I know I am SO glad I did because I have a pretty smile now and no overlapping teeth. Hang in there!!!! 
Ballet class :) sm
My daughter (now 8) has been in ballet since she was 3 years old. Of course, the first couple of years they do spend learning how to stay in line, twirling around, etc BUT they begin learning the basics which is great! You will see her progress over the years if she stays in it. My daughter participate in The Nutcracker this year and she is now really in love with ballet. She only had 2 small parts but she thougth it was the best thing in the world she has done so far. She is also on a competition cheer team and ballet beat it out. :)
Maybe that ESL could give a class
on "Keeping Your Transcriptionist Happy"!
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