I am not saying it is okay to cage a wild animal
Posted By: trose on 2007-12-27
In Reply to: I agree with you but - mt47mtmm
but these animals are not in little iron cages. They are living in open areas down in deep areas that have 15 to 20 foot walls. If there are going to be zoos, this is the kind to have.
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A cage is a cage
these animals have territories up to 100s of miles long, outside enclosures are just that, another form of a cage.
Put a lid on the cage if you haven't already - sm
We have 2 hamsters, and the cat just sits on the kitchen table and watches them (they are on a little table in the kitchen). Provides her with hours of enjoyment!
PS Tried a cage - she bent it and got out!
Houdini!
Are you cage training her?
If so, put her in her cage when she gets too rambunctious (sp?). Our new puppy is also about 8 or 9 months old, and she knows the meaning of "NO" and "STOP BITING".
Also, have you tried spraying her with water? it works on most dogs and cats.
All I can say is for people who want to cage their *pets*
or make them live outside (as another poster said), do yourself and them a favor and don't get them in the first place! How about that? :)
I always used a cage for my kids (playpen). So?
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I have one sounds just like Nicholas Cage
I'm typing one at Webmedx that sounds just like Nicholas Cage (if he was reading head MRs and CTs). Maybe his next movie role can be a doctor and this guy can consult/voice dub for him!
Unfortunately that is what happens when you cage the king of the jungle
I don't go to zoos anymore, but I found as a child the saddest exhibits were the big cats, just pacing and pacing the perimeter of their enclosure, so very very sad.
The Bird Cage! I love that movie.
Hank Azaria is a hoot. In fact, all the principals do a great job.
Johnny Depp & Nicolas Cage
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''crate'' is a euphemism. Just a nice word for what it really is which is a cage.
A crate is a nice, PC term for cage, and a cage should NOT be considered a humane training tool. There should be a ''golden rule'' for animals also. If we would not like something done to us, we should not do it to the animal. We need stricter animal adoption laws because if someone can't train an animal without putting it in a cage, one should not be permitted to have the animal in the first place. Where is the compassion.
Nicholas Cage, John Travolta, Al Pacino
You needed a heavier gauge wire cage. They make
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That is so wild! sm
I agree with the comment on calling to ask a question. Keep us posted, okay?
I don't believe this. Dogs are not *wild*--sm
animals with denning instincts. they were meant to be every bit as free as humans were. As far as I am concerned, ALL animals, not just dogs, are *furry people* with a whole lot more loyalty, compassion, understanding of nature, and caring than a lot of people I know. They should be treated with respect, just as much as humans, because they were *created* just as much as humans were. If a human cannot or will not take the time to train the animal where it wants it to *do his business*, then that human should not have an animal as a pet at all. You would not treat your child this way, so why treat a pet this way? JMO.
wild animals
My fiance used to live in a subdivision in our small town. . every night, possums and racoons came up on his back deck and looked through the sliding glass door at us while we were watching TV in the living room. . We enjoyed seeing them and sometimes we would put food out for them. .
I have to share this also because I think it is a once in a lifetime thing - yesterday we were walking on my fiance's farm and saw a deer giving birth. . we got to within about 35 yards of it. . We only watched for about 10 minutes because we could tell we were making it very nervous. . I hope they both do okay. .
Tomatoes gone wild
I have planted 4 tomato plants that have gone crazy. They are crowding out other things and the cages are barely holding them up. I would like to try to transplant them to another area. Anyone have experience with this with a fully grown tomato plant? They already have some tomatoes and lots of flowers. I am planning on starting this afternoon by pruning back many leaves and stems that are not fruit bearing yet.
Because wild birds are not usually fed
grain that has been tampered with by man and has all kinds of questionable additives, and even usually contains dead chicken waste. I grew up in the poultry capital of the US and it's a wonder I even still eat chicken!
Wild swimsuits
Pic below.
Thats wild! Would help too if mice were diabetics
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wildlife should be left wild
I agree about the psycho woman, but this is about feeding wildlife. As stated above, wild should the left wild. It's become a romantic idea to feed the ducks at the lake. Because animals cannot digest all the synthetic crap we put into our foods, their digestive systems become blocked and they die. Human education is a very long haul.
JMO, but having been a very wild teen at one time...
you really should intervene. Your sister has a right to know, it is her child after all, and to turn a blind eye and pretend it does not exist does your niece more harm than good. Take it from one who has been there, if someone would have done the same for me I would have been angry, but looking back now it would have changed my life tremendously. A lot of young girls today really need some direction, look at the role models they have out there, most of them are nothing to brag about! Good luck to you, you sound like a loving and caring auntie!
Used to have one at Wild Birds Unlimited
think there is a web site - that was mirrored on the other side. It has been a while but they had one at their store where I shopped and the goldfinches were right there outside the window totally oblivious.
Pretty wild posts
I was reading the posts below and some pretty heated discussions. Everyone seems to have an opinion and I feel bad for the people who give their opinion and then are jumped on by others. The only thing I could possibly add is do what you feel is right. Emotional scars go very deep, and its true that once things are said (or written) its very hard to forgive. I remember years ago (19 years ago) I got called into a room by my MIL who proceded to tell me how much she always hated me and if I turned her against her son she would find me and kill me - this was after I told my husband (not in front of her) we don't have the money to pay our bills and we can't keep taking her out to eat with unlimited pitchers of beers. He's the one who told his mom we couldn't go out to eat cos we didn't have money. Anyway...those words she said still haunt me and the memory is like it happened yesterday. Words hurt very deeply and the emotional scars will always be there. It sounds like you are getting counseling and that is good. Don't know if your kids are also getting counseling but that might help them too. Good luck to you.
Is it legal to keep a wild deer as a pet? sm
Someone has had a wild pet deer for a pet in our subdivision for a few years now. I am a serious animal lover myself, but it has gotten rather old having this deer roaming through the roads and, most of all, eating landscape plants down to nothing. We have sprayed deer repellent on nearly everything, but the one little area we miss will be chewed right away. Besides, we have to keep doing it over and over and this stuff is not cheap. Really getting tiresome. Do not want to be mean, but what rights do the homeowners in here have?? 
Are we living in the Wild West?....sm
I wonder that the police do not take more action against him.
Your mother has now to live imprisoned with a shotgun next to her bed?
She should make him institutionalized, declared incompetent and the property should become hers and yours.
Wild kingdom in my back yard!
It's my day off, and I was standing at the kitchen window, noticing two thrushes (large reddish birds) all riled up. I was about to tell DH that how funny they were acting when I noticed a black lump on the tree that seemed to be the center of attention. There was a large snake coiled on the side of the bradford tree trunk! Not only were the thrushes yelling and jumping at it, now and then other birds were getting into the act, like a robin that would dive-bomb it. The yard was alive with chatter over the out-of-place intruder. Despite the fact that I was still in my jammies, I armed myself with a hoe and went out to fight the good fight. DH joined me. What was great was that the birds didn't mind how close we got to them. It was like they could tolerate anybody that was involved in the fierce battle against the invading predator. Since the snake wasn't wound around very well, and had most of his bulk on one side of the trunk, it wasn't too hard to dislodge him, but I took time to study his head shape, which was quite beautiful if you can appreciate a nice nonpoisonous snake. We decided it was the black racer snake rather than the rat snake we've seen before. So we and these birds were arguing with a very cranky snake, LOL. Once I had ID'd him we finished dislodging him. He plopped 3 feet to the soft pine-needled ground below and remained semi-coiled. The birds moved down to the ground and continued a fabulous display with cocked wings and upright tails and wide-open mouths, jumping and flying in the face of the enemy. As the black snake coiled and struck out at the birds, he revealed the ugly truth; his abdomen bulged with a recent meal. Apparently eggs or babies were already lost to the fiend!
We were sad for the birds, especially since we have made no attempt to discourage the snakes from living in our yard. They are supposed to control mice and moles - not birds.
Pretty wild about David Ducouvne
That's an addiction you don't hear very much about even though it is out there.
Don't forget the Wild Card Round
Any three of them could be back.
Actually, we bake cornish hens with wild rice.
Glaze is made with melted butter, brown sugar, worcestershire sauce.
Well, tigers in zoos now never knew life in wild and
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the wild west of oregon! go east to see family...
every year. my sis brought me to NYC one year and that did it, i was hooked on handbags! originally from the big city and forgot how many good buys there are if you look for them!
Running wild all summer in the surrounding citrus orchards - sm
- Also the small town (which it isn't anymore) 4th of July parade, and how excited my dad would get about the fireworks.
- First trip to Yosemite & Lake Tahoe in 1960. Back then the park was practically empty in late August.
- Neighbors who showed Disney movies for all the kids in the neighborhood for free on summer Sat. nights.
- Halloween when I was 10, and trick-or-treating with no parents along. Kids sure can't do that now.
- The nearby thoroughbred horse farm, where we used to sneak into the *old guys'* pasture, climb aboard, and ride them around. It's a wonder we weren't killed...
- *Sledding* down hills on dried-out grass on big pieces of cardboard.
- Tire races! (Put small kid in large tire at top of hill, roll tire down hill. Resulting dizziness of said small kid was VERY funny. Tire & kid that go the farthest before falling over is the winner.)
- Building our own wagons, go-karts, tree-forts, stick-horses, bird-houses, etc. without adults to tell us the *right* way to do it. Much more fun our way.
- Playing in construction sites. We once found a HUGE beam that was eventually going to be a main ceiling beam, and with about 15 kids' help, were able to drag it to a spot where we could turn it into a GIANT see-saw. You could put about 8 kids on either side, and it went REALLY high.
- Going to my friend's house on Sunday nights to watch Bonanza - in COLOR! (Everyone else in the neighborhood had blk. & wht.)
Cornish hens with a glaze and a wild rice stuffing? nm
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roasted veggies and sauteed tofu with wild rice, and salad. nm
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Use beans to stabilze blood sugar, yams, brown and wild rice, hearty
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groundhogs,squirrels, wild turkeys, rabbits, raccoon, goat and deer meat..sm
Some folks just take for granted that they can walk into a market and shop for meat...We've done the same for similar reasons as you and nothing was wasted. At least you're self sufficient!!! And, I bet you've put up/canned/frozen all the vegetables from the summer/fall harvest.
Didn't mean to be flippant in my earlier post...whack it, hack it, pack it and stack it...  Cat
Put my animal * up* ???
where would you suggest I put him???? He was an indoor cat but managed to escape. Ate through 3 or 4 screens to get to the * wild *. It was in his blood. He was found in a field and I rescued him.
That's what some cats do. They kill birds. Period.
But you don't need to worry about the birds anymore, because the cat left one day and never returned. He was completely white. He left around Halloween and was never seen again. My daughter worried for months and wrote a story about him to the local newspaper hoping to get him back. Did not happen.
Maybe a bird ate him. Would that make you feel better?
I am very sorry, being an animal lover, but
I really believe the final call on this had nothing to do with money. A horse, unlike cats or dogs, cannot support their weight only on 3 legs and I believe the people who owned this beautiful animal did everything they could to let him live. They knew he would never run again much less be able to live any kind of meaningful life. I heard he was not doing well yesterday and thought this would be the outcome. So sorry, though.
I said never again for taking in animal because
right after I had surgery, a Springer Spaniel came to my door. Loving animals I took him in, put flyers out in the neighborhood trying to find owner, called the pound to see if anyone declared missing, put ad in the paper under found animals, nothing-all the calls I got wanted him, did not lose him. I interviewed and hoped I chose the best- he was high energy and me low. It breaks my heart to see strays, feel so sorry and carry dog food in the back of my vehicle to feed in case I come across 1-I have before.
I am so, so sorry as I am an animal lover also
and can really feel your pain. I have 3 furkids of my own and my heart just goes out to you and your family at this time. These special animals are just part of our own families and I grieve with you.
You could probably win every stuffed animal at the
I bet you could whip them bad boys out instead of using the real gun that shoots the water and win the biggest stuffed animal EVER! LOL 
It depends what animal for me. (sm)
When DH sees something dead in the road, he always calls it a possum, no matter what it is. Cause I'm not a big fan of those (sorry possum lovers). To be funny he'll say masked possum (for a raccoon) or ring-tailed possum (also racoon), or gold possum (cat), bob-tailed possum (rabbit). He thinks he's hilarious.
No animal control
There is no animal control in many rural areas.
Don't know if Animal Control will be much help
At least, not if they're like the ones around here. I have called them a couple of times for large dogs roaming loose in the neighborhood and they said they would drive by when they got a chance but if the dogs weren't there at the time there was nothing they could do. Even when I told them, they're here right now and will probably be here a while, I never saw the Animal Control vehicle come by either time.
This is a different situation, of course, but if the dog is receiving food and water I really don't think Animal Control would do much.
I understand that you do not want to bring an animal into your home that would make your cat uncomfortable. If you can keep the dog company in his yard or bring him into your yard (as suggested below) that might be a good alternative.
Maybe you could keep an eye out and try to find out who is feeding the dog and talk to them about some kind of alternative, or at least find out when the owners will be back.
I can't believe people treat their pets this way, just to save a few dollars. For a dog as small as a Sheltie, boarding isn't all that expensive. I did a quick on-line check since it's been a while since we boarded our Pom, and most places listed $12/night for small dogs. A small price to pay, in my opinion.
animal adoption
i agree that we needed to know about this. there are some deceived and warped people that would sacrifice animals in evil ceremonies. a relative of ours had a puppy turn up missing and later it was found with its heart cut out. sick, sick, sick,
I got my dog from Animal Control.
There was an "application" but it was mostly common sense stuff. Good luck!
I am animal lover and get this
Spoke with my daughter last night. She owns her own home and rents out part of it. She tells me her roommate gone a lot- she intends to speak with him about his small dog. She tells me her dogs and this dog are not hitting it off too well but it is freezing here for the past 2 nights and the dog is outside without any shelter. I have written her a note and told her if she gets pis…oh well. I told her she is responsible for things that go on at her home and surely I gave her some compassion in her raising, otherwise I have failed miserably. I asked her how long does it take to bring the dog in, feed and crate it for the night? Surely as a human being you can not allow a poor defenseless animal to suffer because it belongs to your roommate. I am never confrontational- let her run her own business but I really hate this and if it puts a wedge between us then I guess it will have to. I keep my mouth closed but I could not this time. If it were my neighbor and they had small dog left outside, I would probably call the animal abuse people on them and someone there might do the same. I don’t worry so much about that as I do the abuse of a small animal. I asked her to find in her heart the right way to deal with this. I hope she is not as cold-hearted as she was last night.
Have some animal knowledge
To those of you speaking about how pits are so evil, I have two things to say...
1. Any dog is capable of that behavior. We have two dogs and one is a search and rescue dog and both are very loving... but you should never ever underestimate a dog no matter what. they are still animals and they still respond according to their instincts in certain situations. ALL ANIMALS have this capability.
That being said...
2. So if you outlaw pits, who's next? What animal species will be evil incarnate after that?
Basically, it all boils down to the owners, the training and the language the animal gives off in certain situations.
For example, my friend recently told me that someone she knows put their golden to sleep because it bit their child. When they euthanized the dog, a technician made the incidental finding that one of the kids had shoved a pen into the dogs ear. They came to the realization that this is why the dog had bitten, but no one ever even tried to sit down and figure out what had happened... nope, the dog is just put down.. no questions. You know, I would have torn that kid in two myself if that had happened to me, so its the kid and not the dog.
Go to a dog language class, take some training and learn some things before condemning an animal to death for "instincts" that supposedly only that breed has. Its ridiculous and completely ignorant.
OK all you animal lovers...
We have a Basset hound puppy, around 7-8 weeks old; we've had her a week now and she is going absolutely NOWHERE with her potty training. We are trying to crate train her, but she just can't get the idea. We take her out on a regular schedule, feed her on a regular schedule, and make sure she poopies and pees before she comes back in, but it never fails that she will, at least once a day, poopie in her crate...SO DISGUSTING! I'm at my wit's end and ready to give her up, but she's sooo adorable, I really don't want to.
Of note, I am not a huge animal person, can take them or leave them, but she stole my heart and I love her! I seriously am looking for some answers here. 
Animal Control
I'm sure the responses vary depending on where you live, what the situation, and who you talk to but for those who have had no help from Animal Control - there might be hope. A farm in my area was obviously mistreating their cows, standing in water for days and weeks with nothing to graze on but plenty of land to move them too. Just a lazy farmer I think, the whole place was a mess. I called Animal Control, the Sherrif's Dept, and the Humane Society every week (atleast once a week) for over a month. Every time I had to leave a message and soon was immediately transferred to a voicemail. I am happy to say I was persistent and eventually the problem was solved. I can only assume they got tired of hearing from me. I haven't seen a problem over there since and its been a couple of years.
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