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I agree with moral principal and ethical value

Posted By: Apple Scruff on 2008-02-19
In Reply to: Apple, the whole board knows you are not a fan of "religion." I have sm - No Obama Fan

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I totally agree with you... did you get a response from the principal?
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You started out with an ethical dilemma and
and a medical center.  Will you be reporting your friend out of moral duty for sharing the fact that he was at a medical facility?  I believe his privacy rights assure him that his business or appts at a medical facility are protected?  Who are you kidding?  I've volunteered for many years and there are parents like you in every bunch.  The sad part, they always involve the kids and they are the ones who lose. 
And for me, I have moral objections to having my daughter take this....sm
We are raising our children to understand that sex is something you wait until you marry to undertake.  Now I know tht is how it may not turn out, but I feel like giving this vaccine to young girls is like saying go ahead and have sex, you will be protected from HPV and genital warts.  We might as well make it mandatory for all young girls to go on birth control pills.  This is just my opinion on this and how I feel.  I will "jump through the hoops" if the state that I live in requires it to not have it administered to my child. 
It just shows the current moral climate of our country...
you can advertise a site offeriing help to have an extramarital affairs but don't try to push anythig that has anything to do with morals or values such as church, God, taking personal responsibility, etc. Very troubling times indeed.
A apologize. I need to emphasize. I quit watching moral filth about 3 years ago. sm
I still love the food network, PBS, and DWTS but not anymore. I refuse to see R rated movies. Filth in, filth out.
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Call the principal as well
It's nice to hear someone be concerned about a child who is not their own. I agree with the other posters, call the adviser, but after that I would call the principal and reiterate my concerns for this student and the possible consequences of giving her free rant space.
The article said he had to get the principal's -sm
signature on a form allowing him to go, which the principal did sign (which says he can go obviously) but then said, well if you go you will be suspended even though I said it was okay. What total nits.
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Hello ladies.  Does anyone use this product by Victoria Principal?   Any comments will be appreciated.  Thank you.


I would have a meeting with principal or teacher.

Wow, how inappropriate of that teacher!  I would definitely talk to the teacher's higher ups or to the teacher personally.  That is unacceptable.  Your poor daughter!  Could she possibly be switched to another class instead of swimming for now?  That gym teacher seriously crossed the line into territory that was none of his/her(?) business and will probably continue to do it to her and others if no one stops him/her(?).  I would be very upset if I were you too!


principal should not have signed the form
if the student was not allowed to go. By signing the form, he gave permission. Therefore, the student should have no problems getting his diploma. He has the principal's signature saying it was okay to go, which is better than words saying he should not go.
Followup - phone call with the principal....sm
I sent an e-mail to the principal this morning outlining my displeasure with the results of yesterday's meeting and CC'd our school board representative. Within a few minutes the principal was on the phone and asked me what I wanted them to do to educate our child. I told her that they're the educators, not me, and that they need to be the ones to figure out a reasonable game plan to get her caught up and educated during the school day. She then reiterated that they don't have the resources to work with her exclusively and won't unless she gets at least 6 months behind, at which point they'd then test her for potential learning disabilities and screen for special education consideration.

The school board representative sent me an e-mail that she'll be calling me tomorrow to discuss the situation. Hopefully by making the school board know that I'm not happy someone will intervene to educate her now and not wait 4 more months to give serious consideration.

Of note, my sister lives an hour away and her school district is completely different. Her son is ADD and is now a junior in high school. All throughout his elementary, middle and high school years there the teachers and schools have been great about working with her and him to keep him out of special education classes, and when needed at times they got parapros to work with him. I hear so many flip-flop stories about school systems and how some really work well with parents and meeting needs and others don't want to do what they're required to do until forced to do so.

We are hoping to be able to move out of our district hopefully next summer but that will depend on whether or not we can get our house sold. Rest assured that we won't move to a new area without my making sure that the schools my daughter will attend are willing to work with us to keep her out of special education and mainstreamed.
Principal Secret products work really well nm
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Bless your heart, they were talking about paying on principal
and that is when I talked about paying also. Don't hate. I have been in bad shape before. When I was there, I worked and worked and worked to make my ends meet and now, well what can I say? Again, not good to have hate in your heart.
Should definitely be reported to principal/school board. Ridiculous!
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Make a fuss to school board, principal, teachers, dept. of child welfare (sm)
whoever you need to. I understand these are difficult to get rid of but obviously the mom of that little girl is not getting rid of them, maybe she treats the child but if you don't clean up the environment reinfestation is a sure thing.

We got a letter from the school yesterday stating there is a lice outbreak in the school. Then we had a program last night in which all the 3rd graders put on these little capes (that came out of a community bag where they had used them before at practice and then bagged them back up) They of course went over their heads and rested on their shoulders. I wasn't the only person that sucked in air when they saw this last night.

I am sure that poor child is and will be embarrassed about this and probably other things in the future if her health/hygiene issues are not being taken care of properly.


Paid $60,000 on principal last year and this year
planning on another $30,000 after my taxes paid for the year. We are getting our house paid down very quickly.
What an awesome post! I agree, agree, agree completely with you.
You are right on the money in my book! 
I agree, try to live in another country, then you will also agree...nm
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absolutement! Agree! Agree! Agree!
Why is it so hard to understand this?  HMOs are just middlemen who get everything balled up and costly!
I agree with you - not judging either but agree (nm)
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and I agree with you *nn* -

I agree......
I agree with everyone's reply here. Also--one more thing...DO NOT TOUCH THE RADIO/CD PLAYER WHILE DRIVING!! It was 17 years ago that one of my best friends was killed this way-very responsible girl, just did not think for that one moment.

I was a responsible teen, but my parents set strict rules on my driving. At the time, I did not understand but now that I have a 10-year-old son who keeps reminding me each year that he will be driving in __ years, I understand completely. If it were an option for us, I would keep my kids babies forever.

Another thing you can do, just to maybe ease your mind about driving is take her to the local police department and have them to show actual footage of accidents. I know that sounds pretty harsh, but it has saved a lot of kids lives in my surrounding area.

Hope this helps!!
wow - I sure do agree with you!!....sm

I would rather them be locked in a car driving than strolling or walking alone - In Florida - we have had MANY YOUNG KIDS killed (murder) by being alone walking to and from school.  My children are VERY responsible and pay for everything, except that car insurance (which is wayyyyyyyyy too much) which I offered to pay until age 28.  By the age of 28, they'll be earning more $$.  My OLD brother (and he's very old *LOL*) did this for his son until age 28 (think he's about 38 now) because of the exhorbitant insurance rates.  I decided to follow suit.  If we have it, why shouldn't we help them.  I'd rather help my children while I'M ALIVE AND KICKING rather than what they get when I die, IF there is anything to get *LOL*


Y'all have a GREAT day! 


Remember, we can all agree to disagree without being nasty and rude. 


and I so agree with you!!!.....sm

One of my children saved all the Xmas/holiday/birthday $$ ever received from toddler-hood so that at 17 had $6000+ and put it down on a BRAND NEW SMALL CAR, albeit I had to co-sign the balance.  Child did pay the rest off.  I too am very proud of the children who are  young still, one has worked for 10 years already (started off part-time at about 14 after school by own choice).


Yep, I want kids to hang out in multiple numbers today - never walking alone - too many CREEPS out there in the USA today and they are EVERYWHERE....really creepy to me.........


Let's sing out for the responsible good kids who are out there trying to live life in this messed-up world!!!! 


HOORAY FOR THE CHILDREN!!!!  They are our future and if we don't back them, well then we are up the creek without a paddle, right?   


I agree...
Don't be too quick to judge! Last I knew car seats can be moved from one car to another! It's so sad that a few rotten apples out there ruin it for the people who really need the help! Hope you are never in a situation where you may need a little help.
I agree
Hey, Chillie, I love what you said.  It's time somebody did.  All this political correctness crap is getting to the point where it really offends me.  And I'm SOMEBODY, TOO!!!  Thanks.
It all goes to what you agree to when you take the job
If you take the job knowing that it involves working the holiday or the night of or the night before then it is your obligation to do so.  That is the way of this trade.   Then the days following the holiday we are "dead" and everyone is yelling for work.  Kind of like the hospitals, the police, the fire department, the stores half the time -- we all know what is expected when we accept the job.  If you knew that it was expected of you when you said yes -- then I think it is your obligation to work.  If you have your own accounts or are an IC then you have the right to say no but don't complain when nothing comes your way the day or two after the holoidays.  I chose to have my own accounts and some are open the day after Thanksgiving and so what I pick up on late Weds has to be back by early Friday and so somwhere in that timeframe I have to get it done.  I might have a few more hours to do it but also have a family and life so will squeeze it in.   Then Friday I will have what was dictated on Weds and have to work on over the weekend.  So you see you are not alone but this has been the way since I have been doing this, close to 20+ years.  Before that when I worked in office/clinics we were never closed for the Friday after Thanksgiving, saw patients until 6 on Weds, back at 8 on Friday.  Anway got things to do.  Patti
I agree
I was in management also and I was lucky in that there were only a certain few MTs that were very stubborn about not working holidays or flat out refused. Most were willing to compromise, maybe do one major holiday and have off the other, or even put in a few hours of their choice. It is those who refuse to work all holidays that can mess things up for everyone. For if everyone refused, what then? I guess it would then have to become mandatory???? Exactly!
I agree with you...
Even if the story you were told is true, there's still something not right about the situation.  Best to make sure your daughter's not in any danger, I'd do the same thing!  Good luck...I feel for the other family though...how hard would that be?
I agree...

My husband is far from dispensable!  He's my best friend too.  He's a wonderful father, husband, son, brother, everything!  We've been married for almost 20 years and I love and need him more today than I did in the beginning.  Men are getting an unfair wrap here...although I completely sympathize with the OP.  That's her situation, though, not every marriage comes down to that.


Like I said before (and my post was deleted for some reason) I am looking forward to growing old with my husband...raising grandchildren...hopefully finally getting to travel.  I do believe the best has yet to come for us!


I 100% agree.
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I agree
My friend and I went on a sugar free diet - it lasted 2 days. After numerous trips to the restroom, we both finally came to the conclusion that it was the sugar substitutes. Go for Splenda... After removing sugar substitues we had no more problems.
I agree and not only that - what about the

actions speak louder than words - if he wasn't guilty he would've stuck around..........would have had nothing to run from if he was innocent......and that's another thing - in the case, he was NOT found NOT GUILTY - he was found innocent by a reasonable doubt....(pssst - cause he's still guilty)...LOL


if it looks like a horse, smells like a horse, acts like a horse, it is not a swan! 


RIP Ron and Nicole......


I agree sm
If you take hungry men a meal of sand covered with some cheese, they are gonna say it is great.  It was very funny to me too.  I am a country fair blue ribbon winner.  Of course they are not gonna say this tastes awful.  I make the best blue ribbon potato salad.  I mean really, if you take hungry men anything, they are not gonna tell your husband it was mediocore, hungry men will eat almost anything.
I agree with you...
Your original intention was to "feel" out how others felt about your situation. You never argued with anyone who replied earlier with anything but thanks. Log off now, and forget about the rants and raves. I hope you have a good evening.
I agree
I have never been big on that with my kids, never felt comfortable with it even when they were much younger. As ridiculous as it may sound, I can remember finding out there was no Santa and I was incredibly upset that my parents lied to me. Christmas is not about Santa. Still bugs me. haha.
I don't agree with your vet.
When I finally saw my dog going through a partial seizure, she was definitely scared and in pain. Afterwards she almost stopped breathing. Hers were caused by a tumor, but in a young dog like yours, it is almost certainly epilepsy. I have a friend whose dog has epilepsy with terrible seizures, and now he's on medication and only has 1 seizure a month. They are all much happier. If I were you I'd change vets because I'd be worried the seizures were causing brain damage.
I agree, but...
not everyone can multitask.  Fortunately, it is nice to be able to simultaneously do laundry and type at the same time.  No one should be sitting in front of a PC for 8 hours straight.  You have to get up and stretch, so why not switch the clothes from washer to dryer, or catch the news or have a cup of tea for a few minutes.  If you were inhouse, you would be at the water cooler.  Working at home is a privilege, but even people who work inhouse take advantage.  I have seen where fellow employees are taking personal phone calls, balancing their checkbook, making appointments, asking others opinions regarding personal issues, etc.  Lighten up!!!!  You will either be diligent or not off-site or not...  No one can type and clean at the same time, but it sure makes it easier to dust your living room, and then go type for a while....  Oh my!  That is why I love this board! 
I agree
For the first year or two I went to an accountant he was very helpful.  But then after  I realized that I was doing 80% of his work for him and I do understand taxes quite well, I bought Turbo Tax and for the past 10 to 12 years have used Turbo Tax.  You have to figure out how much sq ft your office is versus your house to find the percentage you get to take off for mortgage payment. utilities, etc.  Also he will let you know what the pros and cons are for depreciating your home.  Since I figure on dying here -- and not in the near future -- I have been using the depreciation.  If you use your car for any mileage related to your business, supplies, delivering, banking you can take that off.  Ask him about setting up a SEP fund -- self employment pension fund -- even if you only contribute 5 to 10% that helps to bring down what you pay SSN, every dollar helps.  Good luck, once he does it for you then you can use last year guidelines for how to do it.  
I agree 100%
I also suffered from HPV and had to endure 4 colposcopies as well as a LEEP procedure. If this had been available when I was younger, I would have gotten the vaccine. There is always risk to these types of things and it is a matter of personal preferance as to what you choose to do.
I agree. sm

And it was even worse in the days of pay toilets what we had to endure. 


 


I remember sitting there broken heated.


Paid a dime and only farted.


I agree as with the others

Definitely don't get tempted on the business trip, and if he wants you he needs to get rid of the other one. 


It is really easy to cheat on a business trip and come home to the wife/steady girlfriend like nothing happened (for some anyway).


I agree with everyone here and I have --sm
been in your shoes too, in the past. Only thing is that I was not mature enough way back then to keep business separate from *high school feelings* and the only one that got hurt was me. I felt not so bright in the head, and *cheap* afterwards.

He is still in his present relationship for a reason and since it seems so easy for this man to forget that, I would stay WAY clear of him! (gotten smarter in my old age). IF he leaves his present girlfriend, which I seriously doubt, then MAYBE, but also keep in mind that he was willing to step out of bounds on that relationship to see what could be done with you, and I would almost bet this is not the first time, so if things ever got serious between the two of you....how easy would it be for him to do it to you after 7 years or so?

It just seems so easy for a man to change his life like he changes his pants every day with no qualms about who he hurts in the process. Keep your dignity...don't do it. Just my 2 cents. good luck to you!
Agree with you

A lot of teens are going to have sex before marriage.  My 17-year-old daughter came to me last fall about wanting to go on the pill.  She is in her first serious relationship, so I took her.  I had a pregnancy scare in high school and it was not fun and I was very honest with her about that. 


My daughter is not getting the vaccine because it is too new and I don't think anyone knows the long-term problems that could come from it.  Hopefully by the time my daughter is having this discussion with her daughter, it will either have been proven safe or pulled off the market, but my daughter is not going to be a guinea pig.


I so agree!!!.......................nm
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I agree.
A broken heart can kill you, if not dramatically reduce your zest for life. I know a woman whose teenage son died of suicide. She still visits his grave everyday. This has been over 12 years ago. She said if it was not for her other other, she would have died.
Yes. I agree. nm
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And I agree with you...he's no....sm

He's no Judge Judy or Judge Millian (Marilyn) or Judge Mathis or any of them.....he seems to be merely an ATTENTION SEEKER.


Judge (*and I use the term JUDGE loosely here*) Larry Seidlin is a 3-ring-circus unto himself with his one-liners and cliches...remember folks, he is a former cabdriver in Bronx, NY and is exactly what he *sounds* like in the courtroom....chastising the attorneys, calling them/addressing them by state , i.e., *Texas...sit down*....or things to that effect...and yet taking every single momentary opportunity to push his OWN agenda, and what I mean by that is HOGGING THE SPOTLIGHT and CAMERAS!!!  He's nauseating!!! 


So, Irish Mom....GMTA (great minds think alike) !!!   


I agree
I think she purposely wanted to be buried as far away from her mother as possible and also keep Daniel away from her - can't say I blame her after everything I heard about her upbringing.  The reality is in my opinion than Anna Nicole is already with her son now somewhere in spirit.  The bodies are just empty shells.