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I've used Donna's method

Posted By: with mixed results on 2009-05-17
In Reply to: Mother's Day Treatment - Donna

Finally have my 14 year old trained - but he had to go without birthday presents or Christmas presents from me last year before the light would dawn.  No amount of preaching about my feelings, lectures about reciprocating good wishes (even IF one has no money to shop for gifts - a phone call or card will NOT bankrupt anyone!!!!), or anger could get through to him.  No amount of pointing out people he knows who whine that "nobody remembers their special day" that do nothing for others on their day seemed to matter.  But the golden rule did - and he realized that he DOES want to receive something from ME, so I better receive something from HIM.


His 31 year old sibling cannot and will not see the light, and continues to moan that nobody cares on x-mas or birthday; forgetting all the years that presents were received and were not even acknowledged, much less any gratitude expressed or reciprocated.  Guess that person is doomed to a lifetime of lonely special days.


OP, your husband sounds like an entitled, lazy turd.  Its not your job to be his secretary, or remind him he has a mother.  Good grief, if he can't remember THAT on his OWN, he deserves whatever the fallout will be.  I sincerely hope on his next birthday she "forgets" him in return.  As for father's day - ask him why hasn't he reminded you to call your dad, and why hasn't he gone shopping for a present for your dad for YOU?  Maybe then he'll see how stupid and ridiculous that is.




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I agree with Donna below...

You first have an obligation to your son to teach him how to be a man!  You are not raising a child.


I would have a talk with your ex-husband who apparently has figured out how to treat a woman and have him talk with your son.  But most importantly, it has to come from you that you are special also and deserve recognition.  So many women will tolerate this and it is not acceptable. 


I would also have a serious talk with your current husband about his job as a husband, friend, lover.... but also his obligation as a role model to your son as he is the man in the house and he should have done something, made a card, cooked you diner, did the dishes and in front of your son, explained why...  *Lets do the dishes for Mom because it is her day!* 


I feel very strongly that raising a boy to be a man in these times is very hard, respect, love, tenderness, concern, compassion, understanding, kindness.... these are all things not being taught to our young boys. 


Many, many times I will walk into a store and a young man will walk in right in front of me and not hold the door.  I always follow the young man in and make mention of the fact that he should hold the door for a lady, children, or the elderly.  Yes, sometimes they take offense to this but I do not care.  Someone has to enlighten them.


Good luck to you Mom, and do not forget to call that ex-husband on Father's Day!


Donna, it couldn't have been said better. nm
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I think it was very, very rude to correct her. You know you made her feel stupid. She is not in some grammar contest with you. I use improper grammar all the time when I am just talking. You do not have to act like you are editing/typing a medical report everytime you are having a conversation with someone. I can't stand smarta&& people like you! I know you embarassed that lady and you should be ashamed of yourself. I hope you made yourself feel like you were sooo smart.
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If you've got one, you've got bunches!

How do ya feel about cats?  That's what I'd do...get a cat...but I love cats and love it when they bring me 'presents' of dead varmints. 



If that's not an option, and you're not comfortable with baiting, glue traps, or that sort of thing, it'd be worth it to hire a professional 'cridder ridder' or exterminator.  Those things will chew up your walls and floorboards like you have no idea and cause incredible amounts of damage.  Good luck in your jihad! 



 


 


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Took a break and worked at my kids preschool one year, worked at a hospital one year, took a couple months off once. It does burn you out because it takes all of your concentration. When I worked at the hospital as a secretary I could not believe how easy the job was ;-) I was sooo used to just getting paid for actual work that when I had a conversation with a coworker or a phone call or took lunch, I felt like I was getting away with a lot! I hope your break works out!! I wish you lived close-by, we could take turns watching each others kids ;-)
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I've tried that...

I've done that along with changing my diet but still no relief.  I just received an e-mail saying to try vitamin E which is what I am going to try next.


Thanks a bunch.....


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TIA


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Hang in there...
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I definitely can't do more than a minute on it, as it REALLY targets my inner thighs. I can really feel it working already, but I don't know what the benefit is going to be to everything it states, i.e. thighs, abs, back. I did a lot of research before I bought it and the only negatives I found were about ordering it through the company's website. So, I ordered it through QVC and saved a lot of money. Plus I received it only 3 days after I ordered it with no extra shipping charge.
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The Wedding Date
Must Love Dogs
In Her Shoes
The Family Stone
In Good Company
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How did you win it?
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LOL, I've seen some of those!
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I've been on it
now going on 3 weeks and love it. I never use up my points and am always full. Best thing is you can still eat the foods you love. I only purchased the starter kit and did not join. I feel better and have lost weight and best of all I'm never hungry. But, like everything else, 1 diet doesn't fit all. I've tried Nutrisystem, Adkins,Right Size Smoothies, and Medifast and they didn't work for me. So far WW has worked. Also, you don't have to give up the "cool ones" on this plan.
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Same problem, and it doesn't go away overnight. Mostly my right (pedal) foot. Is yours?
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But can't remember which one...a bride having her bridesmaids sign a contract, yeah right...I'd tell her exactly where she could put all her demands...geez!
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There is, unfortunately, an "out", meaning that if they have ever been invited to call (We refi'd our house and had been calling mortgage brokers, etc) they are exempt from the list, at least in New York. So it could be a brokerage or something trying to drum up business (not my problem)but all I have is an 866 number to go by, no name on the caller-ID. I wonder if you can get them back on the list after your business is finished.
I've been there

I understand.  For 17 years I dealt with this, always feeling like I was never doing enough, if only I could do more then maybe....  I became very ill myself because of it.  I had no life of my own, -- I lived for the next crisis, just like you -- and no one could understand, not even my doctor.  I didn't find peace until I took the burden off my shoulders and put it on His--until I realized I had a responsibililty to God for my own life and I was losing my life, my freedom to find His Will for me and do it, to someone else's addiction.  In this case, it was my mothers's.  She was there night and day as well, no escaping.  I gave up my outside job and worked from home too.  I finally had to move in order to remain sane and THEN other family members had to start doing their share of helping out while I tried to regain some sense of self. It wasn't until then that she even got a clue that I had a right to my own life. 


Your daughter, loved though she be, is robbing you of your life.  That is not right.  But I don't know of a stronger bond than that between a mother and a daughter no matter what problem may arise.   One can never really walk away, forget it, etc. like so many will tell you to do.  Inside, that bond lives strong.  All you can do is find a way to deal with it, a way that is fair to you, healthy for you, a way that will keep you strong or else she will take you down with her. 


For me, it was distancing myself physically and praying for her.  I realized for all my love of her, only He could make the changes in her, and He did once I acknowledged how true the words are, "Without Me, you can do nothing."  Now I pray for and expect miracles if it so be His Will when I have problems I cannot resolve.  It brings great peace and strength -- and HOPE because I've seen first-hand how prayer made with faith truly does bring them and I don't feel like I am carrying the burden all by myself anymore and then I accept whatever He lets happen, realizing He in His wisdom knows more than I.   


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4 times and my sons have done it once...They went through blazes in the south in high school with their long, patterned braided hair (they learned to braid themselves bkz I could never get it tight enough to suit them).  But, when ridiculed by their coaches, school administration and teaching staff they replied, "Cause we want to donate to Locks of Love like mom, and it's hard to get a good grade of black hair...It's not just white kids that get cancer".  Cat


 


 


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That sex scene with the old girlfriend amputee was quite something!  I'll never be the same!
I've done this...and..
I was a struggling single parent working for a doctor and in the 10 years I worked for him I had to get an advance twice. He was very kind and thought nothing about helping me. He also gave me a loan to get out of debt with a 3-year payback plan ($50 out of each check). This way he also insured that I would stay at least 3 year until my debt was worked off..LOL..so it worked for us and I ended up staying 10 years and I still do fill-in work for him. He saved a single mom's life..I would never ask a large employer, but usually small companies are very kind to their employees as they want to keep you..
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going back to school to be a viable option if yer already workin' a 12 to 14-hr day, then yes, we ARE struggling. The only way an MT can make money these days is to marry it.
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FOUR litter pans. I clean them constantly, wash out daily, have tried every kind of litter they sell. She doesn't seem to care, except she wont use the natural kinds. Feliway was an expensive failure. It seems to be more behavioral than anything. If I stand right there and say "Use your box", she will. (Knows she's gonna get a treat!) crate-training helped the first time, by the 4th it was fruitless. Called the rescue she came from but they won't take her back, saying she's un-adoptable, and the only choice left is to put her down. So, this is pretty much her last chance. Getting the medication into her is no walk in the park, either - she hooked a claw right into a vein on my arm last night. I advertised her for adoption last week, just to see if I got any takers, and all I got was a kid with a boa constrictor.
I've had 4...
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The last 2 pregnancies occurred when I was on birth control and was married. I simply did not want to have a kid. Period.

For awhile 4 abortions seemed like a huge number until I talked to a birth control counselor at a college I was going to...she told me that on her first day as a counselor she had talked to a woman who had had 28 (not a typo) abortions. Now THAT is extreme. I don't think abortion should be a form of birth control.

I've never regretted not having children. There have been times I have regretted not having gone through the birth experience, but I have never, ever wanted to be a parent. So it's okay. Mothering, at least in part, can be experienced in other ways (beyond the scope of this post), & this is enough for me.
I've done it - sm
When we would go on vacation and still had milk I'd freeze it rather than pour it down the drain. It always seemed fine when I thawed it out again. Not to mention, I used to always freeze breast-milk when I was working out of the house or for babysitters (for what it's worth). Go ahead - give it a try. The only thing, though, it will probably go bad a little faster after it's thawed.
I've been there

I have been in your shoes.  Last year my husband died unexpectedly at age 56, I literally woke up one morning and he was dead in our bed next to me (aneurysm).  That started a downhill spiral . . . . since then I've lost our home to foreclosure, my car has been repo'd, and I lost my job due to cuts at the hospital.  I can't begin to tell you how depressed I've been.  I've had to make some major changes as you can well imagine.  I am working now and starting to pull myself up out of the dark hole I've been in.


The poster above is right.  You need to see a doctor.  I found out that most major health systems have programs for those of us with no insurance and no money.  Call their financial offices and just tell them point blank you need to be seen and you have no insurance.  They will not refuse you.  I found a clinic near my house that is part of a large hospital.  I was able to see a doctor for a physical and get my annual Pap and mammogram done at no charge.  They gave me samples of my medications (I have asthma) for a few months until I had insurance again.  They prescribed an antidepressant which worked wonders and they gave me that as samples each month.


Move closer to your family.  You'd be surprised how supportive and helpful they can be.  My family has been supportive of all the decisions I've had to make and helped me through them.  Spend time with your grandchild, kids can make you feel so much better.  If you're not making much money, go sign up for assistance.  I did.  I didn't think I ever would, but I had no choice.  For just myself I was given 174.00 a month for food and it helped out tremendously.  I know it's hard, but you have worked all these years and you have paid into these programs all along, now is the time for you to benefit from them.  You may be hesitant to take free medical care or ask for food benefits, but remember THIS IS ONLY TEMPORARY and you will get back on your feet.  It may take a while, but you will make it.  Good luck to you.


 


I've been there.
I don't believe in getting even - although, whew! I'm human. I've performed several mental castrations.

But through quiet observance, being stuck around this person albeit distant, I learned I didn't have to stoop. Life took care of that time and time again with the fool.

Talk it out with the right person, cry it out, write it out as much as you can; key word is out. Find an outlet, running, drawing; don't bury it within.


the few i've known that had
deer as 'pets', did not let them roam free. Guess you'd have to call local (animal control?) and see.

a roaming wild animal pet is in grave danger, because their natural instincts are replaced with trust. Persohally I don't agree with keeping deer as pets, esp in a neighborhood.
I've been there s/m

If you feel you have done everything to try to make it work, then you know what you need to do.  After leaving my ex and having two children, I received help for daycare.  I was able to obtain health insurance from where I was employed, so that did help.  Do not count on child support, as it was court ordered with mine, but he decided to go back to school and only work part-time and they can only garnish so much of one's wages by federal law.  I would sometimes receive $15 for two weeks.  He did end up catching up after he graduated though. 


Back then (15 years ago) they didn't have the different health plans offered by the state, but depending on where you live, here in Michigan they have MI-Child for those who qualify.  It is a great program.  $10 a month and everything is covered.  That would at least get your kids covered. 


You need to believe in yourself and set your mind to it.  It will be a rough road, but it is possible.


Best of luck to you. 


You've done all you can...
It is up to her. She is a grown woman who should not be acting that way. You invited her, but also told her that it was okay if she didn't want to come. I would just drop it. It would do her some good not to have people seeking her out. Let her come to YOU this time. You've done the best you could. Merry Christmas :-)
I've been going since I was 15, and 36 now. sm
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Yes, I've done that. nm
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I've done that before.
I've found that usually mine just curl up and go to sleep.  They usually like the dark warm spot to snooze.  If he had been in real distress, he'd have meowed or even howled when you called him.  LOL, but I'm sure he stalked out like he had been mistreated really bad.  The worse I ever heard was I worked with a really air-headed girl who had gotten her first kitten.  She couldn't find the cat, got really stressed out, and decided to have a cold beer and try to calm down.  Opened the fridge and lo and behold, who was sitting on the bottom shelf?  Kitty!  Seems she had went into the fridge a little earlier for something, was talking on the phone and not paying attentoin, and figures the cat must have jumped in there then.
I've done that before.
I've found that usually mine just curl up and go to sleep.  They usually like the dark warm spot to snooze.  If he had been in real distress, he'd have meowed or even howled when you called him.  LOL, but I'm sure he stalked out like he had been mistreated really bad.  The worse I ever heard was I worked with a really air-headed girl who had gotten her first kitten.  She couldn't find the cat, got really stressed out, and decided to have a cold beer and try to calm down.  Opened the fridge and lo and behold, who was sitting on the bottom shelf?  Kitty!  Seems she had went into the fridge a little earlier for something, was talking on the phone and not paying attentoin, and figures the cat must have jumped in there then.
I've tried that.

My cats just look at me and I know they're thinking, "that's okay.  I'll just wait until you're not around."


Plus I have a couple that actually like to play in water.  Go figure.


I've not had one............ sm
but here is a link to discussions about it. Hope this helps some.

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/280333

I've been where you are....
the first several times my NOW EX threatened to kill himself, it scared me to death. His behavior disrupted our entire household making our children suffer greatly- not to mention the burden he placed on the neighborhood, the medical community, and local law enforcement. The emabarrasment and humiliation and anger eventually drove me over the edge. The last time he pulled that stunt with me, he was threatening to slit his wrists. I was completely numb and totally drained, I didn't care anymore. I told him to go right ahead but to please go to the bathroom, get in the tub (so the blood would be contained to one area)and to please be sure he did it right by cutting an artery - and I actually demonstrated to him where to cut. He was so shocked and confused, his whole demeanor changed and the suicide threats ceased. My ex is an alcoholic, drug addict, (probably bipolar), and he was physically, emotionally, and sexually abusive towards me. He is a very manipulative person.

Fortunately, he didn't follow through on his threats. I don't know what I would've done if he had actually killed himself. SO PLEASE UNDERSTAND: I DO NOT RECOMMEND ANYONE DO THIS. The threat of suicide is not something to be taken lightly. I am only sharing my story with you because I understand your frustration and I know what it is like to be in your shoes. I was scared to leave him, scared to be without him, I wanted us to work as a family. Familiarity of what I was living in and the fear of change or the unknown kept me and our two young sons captive in insanity for several years. I got to the point where I knew I had to do something to get some normalcy in our lives; so I finally got the courage up to get out of that miserable situation. That was 15+ years ago. Life is so much better. Oh, and he is still alive! :)

I wish you much luck.