I'm sure there must be a mental problem - (SM)
Posted By: ..that will surface eventually. on 2007-02-08
In Reply to: Have people lost their frigging minds? - Lana
She may have been just fine last summer when she made her last NASA space flight. But things can take a turn suddenly. She may already have a problem like OCD or depression that she was on meds for, and suddenly gone off them, or else the "love triangle" thing might have been stronger than the meds. So many different possibilities. Look at her "before" and "after" pictures. She almost looks like she's on crack or heroin in that mug shot. Could be hooked on painkillers, uppers, or ? I'm trying not to rush to judgement, but I also wonder why someone would throw away such a seemingly charmed life. But when a person is having a mental problem, they often can't see through all the "noise" in their head, and can't weigh consequences. Anyway, it's a shame, but how lucky for the woman she was after, that she wasn't thinking clearly enough to actually get the job done.
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mental aspect also
figure out who is a pain in your butt! Sometimes it is referred pain!
…Had nothing to do with mental incompetence
Fraud yes but how do we not know the above is not verging on the same?
I really think there is a mental issue going on
She is actually quite a bit older than us. I am in my late 20s and my husband is in his mid-30s and this woman is 50. We met her years ago when we used to work together.
She wouldn't tell us exactly why she lost her job and was very, very vague in the details. I have a feeling that there is more going on than she would reveal to us, but I really don't even care at this point.
I honestly do believe that her husband is caught right in the middle of all of this, esepcially since we haven't heard a single word from him in weeks. She was very, very nasty in her email that she sent, which included several personal attacks, all of which were completely untrue accusations.
This is a direct quote from her email that she sent today:
"i should not be surprised because u dont take care of ur own financial commitments either and often get in over your head. If you had gotten urself into a mess financially i would have helped you out because we were friends, i now expect that you can deliver the money you owe us over here at the soonest possible time."
The woman can't even spell! Also, she doesn't know anything about our finances. We own a house, 2 cars, always work LOTS of extra hours, and always pay our bills. For her to say that is absolutely insane. She is just in such a desperate state and is beyond frustrated because we refuse to pay her anything.
Oh, and she even said in her email that we owed him $456!!! Where did that amount come from?!?! Yesterday it was $300, which was still outragenous!
Sorry for the long vent...again! LOL
I think I really am going mental w/isolation thing.
I guess it's an occupational hazard, isn't it? I have these bouts where I just withdraw and don't want nuttin' to do with no one--sometimes for weeks a a time, then I get almost manic and freeze up physically and mentally, which can last for days, and then one day I'm happy as a clam and glad to be alive...then the cycle repeats.
I'm geographically isolated anyway but this 'career' is just mentally crippling when you are a person who needs to be forced to get up and out anyway or else they might sink into a depression, ya know?
I'm actually starting to get mild panic attacks if I have to drive anywhere--how f'd up is that?! This not where I had planned to be at this time of my life--or ever for that matter! Serious midlife cris going on here in my head, so, yeah you're not alone.
If there were more opportunities in my neck of the woods, I would so be out of this business. But, alas, if I leave it's a MAJOR step backwards and I won't do that. You know what though, now that I'm thinking about it....I am a halfway decent cook, and did okay in chemistry class, and there sure are a lot of folks strung out on meth 'round these parts. I'm thinkin' maybe I should open up a meth lab and go into business for myself! It sure would get me back in touch 'with the people!'
how do I access the mental health page?
I just came across it a few seconds ago. Thanks!
Check out the mental health board
:)
obviously you don't have a personal experience with mental illness
she is very sick and she needs help, which I am hoping she is getting. Mental illness is like any other disease, cancer, diabetes, etc., but there is a horrid stigma attatched to it. She can't help being sick just like anyone else can't help having cancer. It's called a chemical imbalance...when will people realize this is just as real and the affected can't help it or just "get over it"???
Ways to maintain mental health...
 Hope these make someone laugh... Makes me wish I worked in an office away from home sometimes...
Ways To Maintain Mental Health
1. At lunch time, sit in your parked car with sunglasses on and point a hair dryer at passing cars. see if they slow down.
2. Page yourself over the intercom. Don't disguise your voice.
3. Every time someone asks you to do something, ask if they want fries with that.
4. Put your garbage can on your desk and label it "In."
5. Put decaf in the coffee maker for 3 weeks. Once everyone has gotten over their caffeine addictions, switch to espresso.
6. In the memo field of all your checks, write "For sexual favors." (I actually do this one!)
7. Finish all your sentences with "In accordance with The Prophecy."
8. Don't use any punctuation
9. As often as possible, skip rather than walk.
10. Ask people what sex they are. Laugh hysterically after they answer. 
11. Specify that your drive-through order is "To Go."
12. Sing along at the opera.
13. Go to a poetry recital and ask why the poems don't rhyme.
14. Put mosquito netting around your work area and play tropical sounds all day.
15. Five days in advance, tell your friends you can't attend their party
because you're not in the mood.
16. Have your co-workers address you by your wrestling name, "Rock Hard."
17. When the money comes out of the ATM, scream "I Won!, I Won!" 
18. When leaving the zoo, start running towards the parking lot, yelling "Run for your lives, they're loose!!"
19. Tell your children over dinner. "Due to the economy,  we are going to have to let one of you go."
20. Share this with someone else... its called therapy.
Question regarding mental retardation and other issues
My sister adopted a boy back in 1989 when he was just about a year old (from Paraguay). He's now 19 years old and she said he is awful and getting worse and worse. She said he's horrible to be around and it's getting to a point where she doesn't want to be around him anymore. He was diagnosed before he ever went into grade school with mental retardation. Through the years my mom and sister were always defensive about it telling people that's he's not retarded, he's "special". Anyway....here it is 19 years later and he is getting worse and worse. Sis just called me from Maine on her last day of vacation and said he's the worst he's ever been. She said he has mood swings, happy one second miserable another. He won't let anyone touch the remote control and all week they had to watch what he wanted otherwise they were in screaming matches in the room. Whenever there is a thunder or lightening storm (which on the east coast is a monthly occurrence) he goes absolutely nuts...meaning, he runs around their house screaming at the top of his lungs "make it stop, make it stop" "tell God I'll day anything he wants, just make it stop", then he runs around banging his head against the wall (btw - it rained every day they were on vacation). I went back 2 years ago and one night it started raining. Actually it hadn't even started raining, there were some dark clouds in the distance. I was woken up early early that morning (bout 4 am) to the sound of screaming. My bedroom was on the first floor and they all were upstairs (they live in a 2 story colonial home). Anyway...I kept hearing screaming and screaming and I thought something happened to one of them so I yelled up to make sure they were all okay. Sis yells down that there are some dark clouds in the distance and she's yelling at my nephew to knock it off, it's not raining or anything. He's running around yelling "make it stop, I can't take it". I fell back asleep only to be woken by my nephew standing at the side of my bed saying "I can't help it, I can't help it. It's not my fault" and his hands were clenched in fists. Then he started hitting punching himself in the head. I could hear my sis and her husband talking upstairs so knew they were okay, but all I could picture was him standing over them with a knife after he's slashed them then stand there like that saying I couldn't help it, it wasn't my fault, I couldn't control myself. He's a very huge kid (340 pounds) - and he keeps telling them he is not overweight, he is muscular. Anyway...to make a long story short years ago they brought someone to the house to try and find out what's going on with the storm thing and nobody helped them. I kept telling her he may need to be on medication, but they had no health insurance so never did anything about it. This morning she called me and said she is going to have some counselers from her church (she's mormon and said they have professional counselors there) evaluate him when they get back from vacation. She said they charge but not as much as regular ones (outside their church - they charge according to what you can afford). Anyway...she said he is horrible horrible horrible, and she called him a little pri*k. She said even her husband said to her "you and Dan don't get along". She said he won't listen to her, said he's 19 and he can do whatever he wants and he won't listen to them. They were giving him $50 a day allowance while on vacation this past week and he would demand it every morning before they had a chance to get out of bed. She said they would hide their wallets after he fell asleep because he just goes in and steels money from them. I asked her if I heard that right. I said $50 a day? I said if she held back his allowance for 3 days that would have paid for an hour of counseling. She said to me I don't know what I'm going to do it they tell me he's bipolar or ADHD or whatever and needs medication. I said would you rather have him diagnosed and on medication or know that he has something he needs medication for and he's deprived of it. I said it's going to just get worse and worse if they don't treat it (whatever the illness is) and for her and her husbands sanity she's got to do something. Sis turned 50 this year and her husband is 64. I said this is not what they need at this time of their lives. Also, last October they adopted a little girl from China (she's just two years old and she's okay and is not handicapped), but she said this week it was like Dan was competing with her. She would get a happy meal at McD's and he would have to have one too, amongst other things he did. At one time this week they asked him if he was upset because they adopted the girl and he said no. They asked what the problem was and he said nothing, leave me alone. My BIL seems to think that maybe Dan realizes that he's not going to go anywhere in life and is depressed. I just told her either way, she has got to get some help for him because he could get worse and worse. Once I told her that I was worried about the safety of she and her husband if they didn't get their son the treatment he needs, but she blew it off and said no, that her son is deathly afraid of her (he may be 340 pounds, but sis is 260 pounds - not as big but he backs down if she comes after him).
Anyway...I don't know how much stronger I can emphasize to them that they need to get help. Sis has talked about some day comeing out for a visit and hanging out at our place, but there is no way in you know where my DH would allow that. I am very intolerable of my nephew. When I go back to visit her he gets on my nerves something really bad. The thing is he does things on purpose to urk them and then he'll look at me and laugh about it, so I know he knows what he is doing wrong. But I get him back because I tattle on him to his parents. HA HA - Okay, I'm bad. But after being around him for about 15 minutes is enough for me. There is nothing that is nice about that kid. I've been around a lot of other retarded kids, kids with down syndrome and they are nothing like Dan. I love them dearly and they are the nicest kids (sometimes better well behaved than kids without disabilities). Anyway...because I know I can't take more than 15 minutes or so with him my DH is way less tolerant than I am and he has no interest in seeing him at all, let alone having him come to our place. Nephew also has a bowel problem and goes to the bathroom in his pants often, so that woudn't work either.
Anyway...don't know if anyone has anything to add to my post on what I can tell my sis. Always afraid of saying the wrong thing to her. Anyway...just had to vent about that. I do hope they get him some help but not sure if they will (it's been 16 years since they should have first gotten him help.
Mental health agencies have had funds depleted. There is no help
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does anyone know how to access the mental health board on MT stars??
I know this isn't the right place to ask but have not received an answer anywhere else yet. I came across it accidentally last evening when someone posted. Thanks!
Of course they will listen. Mental abuse is extremely prevalent
and the abuse counselor will tell you the cycle of violence, here's an example you may recognize from him: First there is grumbling or little comments that demean you. You question yourself because he just seems to be "trying to help you," then, there is using finances, threats to take things away including children, controlling who you see, where you go, even what you think, then when you voice an opinion the violence. Starts out verbal. Will definitely lead to physical some day. He will also try the "crazy making," If you know the moon is blue for example, he will say it is green cheese, and then make you feel like you are the crazy one. You will question your reality and the truth that the moon is blue. You will become confused.
Then, a gift will appear, some form of kindness from him. You will forgive him figuring you were wrong, maybe it was you, maybe he will change, or whatever. You give in to him. Then it starts all over again, the grumbling. It is like clockwork. This is a proven fact with abusers. These people never change. A minute percentage do seek counseling, but the control they desire is too rooted in their being and their identity. They feed off of this control. Once the person they control is gone for good, they will seek someone else out.
Mental violence is a crime. Stalking is not just physical for example, phone calls, constant badgering when you say no, or say stop treating me this way, this is violence. I could go on about it, but please call the hotline and forgive me for being wordy here. Make that call and all will fall into place.
Needing A Mental/Emotional Jump Start
You good people are probably as good to ask as anybody although if we had a philosophy board, it might be better. My question is Why? Why are we killing ourselves? And I mean this in the broader sense than just the MT industry. I have an ex (46 years old) who is an alcoholic. He lives waaaaaaay out in a very rural area. He owns his own house, land, and a lot of horses, something he acquired 20 years ago when he had a really really good job. He has a regular income now of about $1000/month from CDs, primarily funded from an industrial accident about 10 years ago.
Anyway, neither he nor any of his friends work. They sit around, start drinking at noon and light their first joint, and just drink steadily until passing out around 2 AM. They play horseshoes, cribbage, shoot pool, shoot the breeze, joy ride, poach deer, etc. His house is kind of a dump (jiggle the toilet handle, turn on the tub water with pliers, no windows that open) and lots of projects undertaken while drunk, some done, many half finished. As they say, the Lord provides for fools and drunks, and that seems to be the case here, as he never goes hungry, has never had to do without his vices because of money, etc. Somehow, something always falls into his lap when he needs it, and I'm not talking $20...he'll rent a chunk of land to a farmer for several K and gets all caught up, or he sells some old fencing and gets a grand. He bought a couple of timeshares years and years ago so he takes these great vacations a couple of times a year where the lodging is only $150/week.
I had to leave because I just couldn't stand the lifestyle (I don't drink, smoke pot, or shoot pool), but I'm wondering why. I'm killing myself working 2 jobs to keep the roof over my head and maintain even a meager quality of life, and while I don't have the drunken projects he does, my house is no palace. If it weren't for my kids chipping in and helping, my car would have been reclaimed by the finance company a couple months ago.
So I'm having a hard time hanging on to my motivation lately. There's probably some jealousy involved, but it's also making me wonder why I bother. If I really wanted to, he would probably take me back and there are moments that I wonder 'Why not?'. What is wrong with the way he is living? Footloose and fancy free without a care in the world?
How do you find the strength/will to go on plugging away when it would be so easy to fall into the idiot/drunk category and just the Lord take care of everyday existence like he does for the ex?
How about your mental health and wear & tear on your body??! Enuf
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link for Mental Health Board inside post
http://forum.mtstars.com/misc/b/8.html
it's located right here above our posts and under the words GAB BOARD
Many meds for depression and mental retardation make people very SM
heavy. My friend has gained probably 75 pounds or more since being on some of the meds. Don't know quite why they contribute to weight loss, but one commercial some years ago said that it does something to the part of the brain that senses when you are full. . . . .
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