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I'm going to Heaven and you're not.

Posted By: Plain and simple. nm on 2006-11-09
In Reply to: What's wrong with being pagan? - Apple Scruff

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I didn't judge anyone. I said, I'm going to Heaven and you're not to that person and
according to the Bible that is true.  There was no judging in the post. 
heaven
I had a "near death" experience and got a glimpse of the other side.  The colors were different, more vibrant, more shades and variations than here and the music was indiscribable.  This happened in childbirth over 40 years ago and I can still remember every exquisit detail.  I also totally believe in reincarnation and that someday we will see heaven spread over the earth and wake up to it's splendor for what it (we) really are.
I don't believe in heaven either...

but that's because I am what I am--a godless atheist. ;-) 


I always have to take the difficult path in my life choices it seems, don't know why, must be my whole "gotta have a challenge" mentality.  I envy the people who believe in god, heaven, and all the good things that come with the comfort of firmly believing in what happens when we die.  I just can never be convinced otherwise; my mom tried right up to her own death and said she was sad for me. 


Well I'm not sad and I don't feel purposeless either.  I just believe in science and need something tangible.  I don't think I'll just become a wormfeast though when I die (course I will be cremated unless there's nothing left to cremate for some reason), but there's some sort of biological electricity in all living things, so I'd like to think that electricity gets transferred some how.  In what way, I have no idea. 


Cue the Star Trek music now!   


 


Heaven to me would be seeing my
Dad and relatives and some dear friends completely restored and happy, and being reunited with my pets; Greta, Maggie, Angus and Molly.
I feel certain you will see her in Heaven - sm

Once we get to be with God, there is no division by religion, that's what I believe anyway.  If she was a good person, she will be there. 


I'm Jewish. I believe in God, but not heaven, at
Not in the other place either. However, I believe bad people get theirs in the end, one way or the other.
Trose - Heaven
Trose, I love the creativity of this site.. go down the page for the beautiful animated graphic, and oh the words underneath are awesome.

http://www.angelfire.com/la2/OurAngel/Links.html

Animals in heaven? NM
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Kingdom of Heaven
Anything with Orlando Bloom is excellent. Seen this movie about 50 or so times and think I will watch it again tomorrow.
Oh for heaven's sake.
There is nothing hateful in my post. At ALL. I gave 2 conditions; either she likes the way she looks or she doesn't. Either way, SHE is the one responsible. Not the MRI company, not airlines, not McDonalds, no one else. If you think this is hateful, it's because you don't think she should take responsibility for her own behavior, & I'm willing to bet you would like the rest of us to take responsibility for yours as well. Good grief! You even want me to take responsibility for your feelings when all I've done is state a couple of facts & conditions. Why am I not surprised.

Yes. It's hard to lose weight. Millions of years of evolving to super-efficient fat storage have seen to that. But actions have consequences. Everyone who is obese seems to think no one noticed how they got that way. Now the consequences of that behavior are yet another thing the rest of the population is supposed to take responsibility for, like bad loans or cigarette companies or bad business plans or anything else, & it pi&&es me off.
Oh for heaven's sake.
There is nothing hateful in my post. At ALL. I gave 2 conditions; either she likes the way she looks or she doesn't. Either way, SHE is the one responsible. Not the MRI company (and not airlines, not McDonalds, not the cigarette companies), NO ONE else. If you think this is hateful, it's because you don't think she should take responsibility for her own behavior, & I'm willing to bet you would like the rest of us to take responsibility for yours as well. Good grief! You even want me to take responsibility for your hurt feelings when all I've done is state a couple of facts & conditions. Why am I not surprised. Sorry, but I am of the opinion that we all make our own beds & lie in them.

Yes. It's hard to lose weight. Millions of years of evolving to super-efficient fat storage have seen to that. But actions have consequences. Everyone who is obese seems to think no one noticed how they got that way. Now the consequences of that behavior are yet another thing the rest of the population is supposed to take responsibility for, like bad loans or bad business plans or anything else, & it pi&&es me off.
Well, obviously. For heaven's sake.
If there's a surgical indication, like inability to urinate, of course I would have it done! WITH anesthesia.

What I'm against is unnecessary circumcision, which the vast majority are. I seriously question the ability of practitioners to discern developmental phimosis, which will correct itself naturally over time, with phimosis that will cause a serious health condition later in life.

http://www.nocirc.org/publish/pamphlet6.html
Trose, I don't believe in heaven, but I would teach SM
heaven to small children, until they are older and can grasp death in the reality of truth. Hmm,did that make any sense? It's late.
Another heaven quote I love!!
Perspective on Death:

Death is God carrying us in one arm while the other flings aside heaven's door to welcome us back to the blazing hearth of our first home

.... while those inside, having arrived before us, rush to the door like glad children shouting, "They're here!"

Death has a bad name on earth but in heaven it's a homecoming party everytime the door opens.

God does not forget those earthbound children, sad and left behind.

God leaves the party early to enter into their despair and to get them ready for their own parties SOME DAY!

Phyllis Koehl (author)

If you expect $60K to rain down from heaven think again

My Bible tells me that the Lord will provide (and has provided) for all of my needs, it does not say he will send money raining down for me whenever I get myself into excess debt.  Rest assured that the Lord will provide the faithful with all that they need and plenty of what they want.  It is your right to believe otherwise, but do not step on my Christian beliefs in the process. 


Luke 12:28, "If then God so clothe the grass, which is today in the field, and tomorrow is cast into the oven; how much more will he clothe you, O ye of little faith?"


 


 


Imagine the music in Heaven now!
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I think there are probably more animals in heaven than people, too. (nm)
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Grandparents are Heaven on Earth
I have no kids so can only give you a viewpoint of how my grandparents shaped my life. I grew up very close (personally) to my grandparents (grandma was my second mom). My grandparents (moms side) lived up the road from us (about a 5 min walk with an open field between us). In the mornings we would walk outside and if she was out we would yell "hello up there" and grandma would yell back "hello down there". She took care of my sister and I during the day while mom worked. We went everywhere with her every day (hairdresser, butcher, stores, errands, church activities, her friends house, etc). She taught us how to whistle with a blade of grass, play "here is the church & here is the steeple, open the doors and see all the people" with our hands. We ate every Sunday supper with them and then she and grandpa moved the living room furniture and taught us how to polka to Lawrence Welk. We also ate there often during the week. Once a week we would spend the night at their house. Grandpa had a lawnmower repair and sales business but anytime I was having trouble in school, he would come in and after supper sit down and help me (mostly with math), but he didn't even think twice about not helping. He was the most unselfish person in the whole world. When I was feeling down about my grade on a report card or test (I was a C & D student, occasionally a B and very rare an A) he would ask me if I did the best that I could and I said I tried really hard but I just didn't understand. He told me as long as I tried the hardest I could he was proud of me. We grew up in the country and g'ma taught us about wild flowers, quilting, and other country type stuff. During the winter we would have sled parties at her house for my girl scout troop and she would bring out hot cocoa with mini marshmallows. Just a couple years ago my best childhood friend was telling me she had just been thinking about that sled party and my grandma bringing us the hot cocoa, and I just have so many wonderful life memories the list would go on and on. She died when I was 16 (30 years ago), grandpa died a few years ago. I miss them so much it still hurts. My dad's grandparents lived 15 minutes from us and we spent every Sunday afternoon with them and when I was old enough to drive I would go up on my own during the weekdays and sit at the table and talk and talk with grandma for hours. I miss them both so much too. I think grandparents are the most wonderful gift a child could have. I was blessed to have mine live so close to us. They spoiled us rotten and we loved it!

Oh how I dream of being young again and having my grandparents to talk to. I'm now 48 and live alone with husband. All my grandparents and mom are gone, dad lives across the country and I see him once every 3 years. I sure do miss them all. I hope all kids have a chance to be close to their grandparents the way I was.

My mom (when she was alive) and dad all have fond memories of their parents (they both told me they had the best parents anywhere).

So the only way I can sum it up is that "Grandparents are Heaven on Earth".

Poem "My First Christmas in Heaven"
In the search box put My First Christmas in Heaven poem" and do a Google search.
Make sure it is the poem written by a 13-year-old boy to his mom before he died of a brain tumor

Read this poem every year as if your son is sending it to you.
Of course not!!! Heaven forbid!! She wound have NO part of that!
I said she was perfect, didn't I? Her life was perfect. Everyone should be like her... but of course, I come across women every day with all kinds of problems because they are not perfect and their lives are not perfect ... ahh... poor them... I try to provide them with exercises and the like to help them improve their damaged and imperfect psyches, but there are no guarantees when one has a hisory of making mortal mistakes...
Someone who is atheist clearly is not going to Heaven. No judging, just stating fact as
per the Holy Bible.
There is another bright star in animal heaven. He was a beautiful boy. NM
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Add green chili and some cheese, and I'd have died and gone to heaven! nm
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Don't go telling people they are "special enough" to enter heaven because they were "goo
Shame on you
It's only a teeny weeny piece of skin, for heaven's sake, get real! nm
nm
You're not 'low-class', you're FUNNY, & a good writer!
Which is often the case then someone is the first to cast stones!
You're surprised? I'm not. They're not going to stop voting....
as was mentioned in a prior post. Imagine if they succeed? They just may.
At least you wait until they're cooked! LOL...we're raw dough
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Sounds like you're doing great! We're also making out...sm
daughter pay for gas and insurance when she starts driving. She hasn't started driving yet because she doesn't want to get a job to pay for that privilege. That's her choice. We're also making her pay 1/2 of the fees for the state required driver's education course.
Things you're afraid of vs. things you're not
I didn't used to be afraid of spiders, but I seem to have developed a fear of those little beasties. I also can't stand boats, water deeper than my hot tub and bridges. I'm also fairly convinced that UFOs, if not aliens (well, isn't anything driving those things?) are real, so that kinda scares me, yet it is strangely fascinating. I'm also afraid of El Chupacabra, though I'm very certain that's not real. It's one of those "hahahahaha" fears. 

Things other people fear that I do not include snakes (awwww, they so cute! they look like they're smiling!), rats, gangbangers (except Mara Salvatrucha, move them up to my "scary" list), poverty, death, traveling at high rates of speed with almost anyone sober, bats (CUTE!!!!!), homeless people, Sasquatch, most of my male friends, bears, mountain lions. 


Fear is such an odd thing, don't you think? So much of it is relative to our own experiences in life, yet at the same time some of them are downright irrational. 


So, how 'bout you? What will send  you running screaming in the other direction, and what things can you take care of when someone else goes running screaming in the other direction?


you're welcome. nm
nm
I see what you're saying...but
heaven forbid, they break up and one of them dies, wouldn't you want the same thing. If she were to die, wouldn't she want her husband to have the same choice she is wanting??? I guess I'm just concerned with pushing this on the husband and he doesn't want to do it. I hope it all works out though. This is a hard decision to make.
You're welcome!
I hope you can come up with something, I've "been there and done that".
Should be you're not, not your not
and actually in the minority as I do work a full 8 hour day, no chasing after kids, walking the dogs, doing housework so you got it exactly right, in the minority as opposed to a lot I read about on here.
Aww, sorry you're going through that...sm
My husband can get into moods also, but I honestly won't allow him to talk to me like that. In every relationship I've ever been in, I wouldn't allow it. In the beginning when I was pregnant with our second child, I wrote him a long letter telling him I needed more help and would not accept anything less. I was so stressed out with working at home and taking care of a 2-year-old and being pregnant. That was it! Ever since then, I swear he does more than me! If he talks to me in a certain way, I demand an apology and I get it, not always right then, but a little later. He knows I won't take it. We've been together for 15 years now, and that is a big thing in keeping us strong. He doesn't take my crap, either:-) He's still my best friend so it's worth it to make it work. Stand up to him and make him respect you! I say that with much care.
Because you're mom, LOL.
Moms just know these things.
We're all in this together ...

I think.  It's always reassuring for me to know that other people are dealing with the same stuff I am. 


She was furious when she found out I had gone through her purse, but too bad.  You live in my house, you live by my rules, sweetheart. 


Another thing that gets me is where she was getting the stinkin' things anyway.  She works in a restaurant where her coworkers smoke but I hope they would know better to get them for a minor.  As far as I know, she hasn't started up again.


 


you're welcome--sm
a lot of physicians are almost insistent on someone taking the synthroid, and it makes me wonder how much stock they have purchased with the manufacturer. They always try to say we don't need the T3 that is included in the Armour, but I know I feel a whole lot better with taking it. I didn't even know I had a thyroid problem until I went to a doc with flu like symptoms and wanting to sleep 14 hours a day. I saw a doc from India in an urgent care clinic, who I had never seen before. I was hardly in the door yet and he said *how long have you had that goiter?* I was stunned. I had seen so many doc's in between and none of them ever picked up on this. I was on synthroid for five years, and never really felt much difference. I read up on thyroid problems from all sorts of web sites and decided to try the armour. Unfortunately my doc at that time would not prescribe it for me. HE did not believe it in. *hmmmm*. I had to go to an endocrinologist, as well, and still had to BEG to try it. He reluctantly gave it to me and it took a while to get it up to the level that would even out my TSH levels, but I am now at 120 mg and seem to be holding. I do feel better, but as I said earlier, I still battle with weight loss/gain. but every body is different. stick to your guns, get what you want, and check back in three months or so and let me know how you are feeling/doing. email me if you wish.
If that's what they're doing ...
it's fine with me. I thought it was interesting, but different that we suddenly focused on 2 characters I didn't remember. But there they were in scenes from the past that I did remember, LOL.
No, we're not out there saying come on
But by nature cats do roam. We have a big field in our back yard and he only goes out early in the morning and goes through the brush. He comes up on them when they fly up and he will jump straight up after them. I have gotten many away from him simply because the first thing he does is bring them to the back door, but when he meows to be let in, they fly away. My husband and I certainly aren't thrilled about it, especially during the springtime, but cats do go after birds and the big old hawks flying around our house could easily scoop up our tiny little female kitty, and I suppose that would make it even?
You're right

Trying to leave while he is there, especially in the middle of an argument, is a gesture, not a serious attempt at leaving. All it does is make him angry and more vigilant.


And you're right that even the best organization can't guarantee complete safety. But they can offer shelter, advice, compassion, and some safety. It's better than trying to do it on your own.


I'm sorry if you have been in this situation before. No one should have to go through that. But unfortunately, many, many women do, every day.


Maybe you're right about his
tummy hurting. You can give dogs Pepcid; ask if you can give something like that to your cat to try.

Are you aware of any weird low-cal foods your cats like? Like cooked vegetables? If so, maybe that would help. Or offer grass to chew in the house.

I'd go to one of those holistic places and see if they have suggestions. They might even have aromatherapy for cats, HA!

I agree it's hard to correct a cat's bratty behavior. Next time consider a dog, LOL.


Tell us what they're about, or if there's another
author you could compare them too. Are they romances, mysteries, stories about moms or what?
you're welcome............sm

there's a lot to them to explain and I will supply one of 1000s of links...but to me it's like a person is damned if they do, damned if they don't living with one of these types....


here's the link :)


http://www.ptypes.com/passive-aggpd.html


 


You're not alone in this

Hi,


I found out yesterday that my 15 year old kitty Dimas has bone cancer in the jaw.  Last week the vet determined he had cancer according to the blood tests but couldn't find a tumor.  Then over the past 5 days he developed a huge bony tumor on his jaw.  He might only have a few days left and I have to decide when to put him down.  I'm convinced that he will let me know when he's ready.  Meanwhile, I'm a mess and am so terribly sad to be losing my buddy.  Please know that I feel your pain and my prayers are with you and your kitty.



Lisa


 


You're not alone in this

Hi,



I found out yesterday that my 15 year old kitty Dimas has bone cancer in the jaw.  Last week the vet determined he had cancer according to the blood tests but couldn't find a tumor.  Then over the past 5 days he developed a huge bony tumor on his jaw.  He might only have a few days left and I have to decide when to put him down.  I'm convinced that he will let me know when he's ready.  Meanwhile, I'm a mess and am so terribly sad to be losing my buddy.  Please know that I feel your pain and my prayers are with you and your kitty.


Lisa


You're so not alone on this one!

I've been going through some extreme stress of late...I actually asked for a "mental health day" yesterday and was refused...and I don't ask for nuthin' unless I really need something.  I was going to take that time to go for a hike in the woods--that always clears my head and relaxes me.


But right now I'm waiting on a delivery of firewood soon...I find that taking an hour or so to stack it or chop it works for me, but that's just because I'm a psycho. ;-) 


I hope you find some relief soon--I totally know where you're coming from!


 


Can't really help, but you're not alone!
Unfortunately with mine I pretty much always ended up in the hospital on IV medication after days of vomiting. I got them every month with my cycle, so eventually the doctor put me on the Depo shot so I wouldn't have my cycle and that pretty much stopped the headaches. However, I just stopped taking the shot for other medical reasons and I definitely fear those headaches! I'm so sorry you have to deal with them!
You're welcome
Neither of my parents was alcoholic but our family was MAJORLY dysfunctional. So I can definitely relate. And I have a son who is 20 years old. Seems just yesterday he was in middle school....sigh.
OMG, I think you're right
Just call me stupid. LOL. I looked up GE Owens Illinois, and I think that did pop up, but I thought he said "in" and not "and". Thank you so much.
you're welcome *S*

For the entire month of Ramadan, the folks of the Muslim/Islamic faith fast all day (but go to work and all the stuff they normally do but cannot ingest anything during daylight hours) and then eat/party all night....