Here is another sad story--kills dog and daughter - sm

Pa. dad charged in infant daughter's shaking death

Published: 2/28/09, 4:46 PM EDT

Davis was being held without bail. Police did not know whether he had an attorney and the jail had no record of his representation.-----------------------------

What a sick SOB, hope he fries, though don't think PA has the death penalty. 

• Here is another sad story--kills dog and daughter - sm - XXX
  • It really doesn't matter if it was a male or female - not a man hater
  • That SOB will likely BECOME somebody's - sm - What IS it with men, anyway?
  • PA death penalty - pa mt
  • this is terrible, I do not think that a woman could do this..nm - non
    • A woman didn't, it was a man - nm -
      • Sorry misread your post - as for a woman - sm -
        • I understand your frustration, but I mean to let one's - non
    • Come on, you guys....sm - TechSupport
  • Too many of these stories becoming familiar, in addition to inforcing the death penalty....sm - Cyndiee

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***UPDATE*** The Associated Press reveals more details about the shooter:

The suspect had been disarmed after an earlier incident at the center but returned with another weapon, according to a senior military official in Washington, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation into the shootings was ongoing.

***UPDATE*** The American soldier who shot dead five fellow soldiers at a U.S. base in Baghdad is in custody.

"The shooter is a US soldier and he is in custody," US marine corps lieutenant Tom Garnett, a US military spokesman in Iraq, told reporters.

The New York Times adds some perspective to the tragedy:

The killings appeared to be the worst case of soldier-on-soldier violence among the American forces based in Iraq since the invasion more than six years ago.
The shootings, which took place at a stress clinic, highlight the problem of post-traumatic stress disorder among U.S. soldiers, notes the Guardian:

Stress is one of the biggest killers of US soldiers in Iraq. About a fifth of all US troops are thought to be suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, contributing to high divorce and suicide rates. An estimated one fifth of the 4,292 members of the US force in Iraq have died from non-combat causes, either in accidents or from suicide.
***UPDATE*** According to Fox News, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs Monday relayed President Obama's response to the tragedy. Obama expressed shock and sadness and is promising to fully investigate what exactly transpired at Camp Liberty, so as to prevent such incidents in the future.

***UPDATE*** AP has another update. The shooting was at a 'stress clinic':

Pentagon officials say five Americans are dead after a U.S. soldier opened fire at a U.S. base in Baghdad. They say the attacker is in custody.

The officials say the shootings happened on Camp Liberty at a stress clinic, where troops can go for help with the stresses of combat or stress from personal issues.

One senior military official in Washington says it's unclear whether those killed are workers at the clinic or were there for counseling. He says officials also are unsure whether all the dead are members of the military.

***UPDATE*** ABC News reports that the U.S. soldier who attacked fellow troops on a U.S, base in Iraq has killed five of them and is now in custody. Initial reports suggested that he had turned the gun on himself after his rampage.

***UPDATE*** AP now reports that the U.S. soldier who went on a rampage against his fellow troops in Iraq may have survived the incident:

Pentagon officials say five U.S. soldiers are dead after an American soldier opened fire at a U.S. base in Baghdad.

The officials say the shootings happened Monday at Camp Liberty near Baghdad's airport.

One senior military official in Washington said it was not yet clear whether the shooter was among the dead. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the circumstances surrounding the deaths are under investigation.

Initial reports indicated the Army soldier shot several others, then turned the gun on himself. But it was unclear whether he, too, had died.

***UPDATE*** CNN reports that 3 other U.S. soldiers were wounded during the friendly fire incident that has left 5 U.S. troops dead. An American soldier killed 4 of his fellow troops before killing himself.

According to the Washington Post, it is the single greatest loss of life in a single incident involving U.S. soldiers since a truck bomb last month took the lives of 5 American soldiers.

***UPDATE*** CNN has just sent out a breaking news alert reporting that senior defense officials have told the network that a US soldier killed 4 of his fellow troops before killing himself. Check back for more information.

McClatchy is reporting that a shooting at a U.S. base in Baghdad has left 5 soldiers dead. The shooting occurred at Camp Liberty, a base near the Baghdad airport.

Mom dying, dad with Alzheimer's, so I'm taking care of both, though my dad was still independent in ADLs.  I worked at home so I didn't really work and I was supposed to take everyone to the doctor.  My sister had 3 days off, the same time as my son's/husband's birthdays.  She said she would come help one day, but that needed time for herself.  I'm the one with young kids, I'm the one trying to maintain 2 households and work full-time .......  I finally moved in with my parents, gave up any privacy, spent 98% of my waking time when not working taking care of someone or something.  I don't regret it and I would do most of it all over again because I'm a caretaker, but if there are 4 other siblings why should I have to carry the burden.  After my mom died I fell apart.  I had to put my dad in a facility and my sister said she would take over primary caregiver duties, but she was hit or miss.  Her kids were grown and out of the house, her DH was always off playing golf.   She complained that my dad was only getting 2 showers a week, but she wasn't willing to go give him a shower.  She complained about using all her vacation time for doctor's visits - like I didn't have to either take vacation or make up my time.    I could go on and on.   They told us in grief counseling that in most families there is one that always ends up doing everything.

The only thing I can say is that when your dad is gone you can seek comfort in knowing that you did all you could to help him, that you were there for him when it counted.  Your sister will be the only who has to live with the guilt that she wasn't there (and she will suffer, must maybe not right away).   At the same time I think your dad is just thinking about what he wants and I completely understand.  My mother wanted to die at home in her own bed, not a hospital bed, even if she was still at home she didn't want a hospital bed, but I also think it puts a lot of stress on you and one day he will be gone and you'll have to pick up the pieces and continue on and there may be a day when you can no longer care for him at home.

I was very long-winded, but what I'm trying to say is don't worry about your sister.  Focus on your dad and do what you can do and that is all you can do. 

I have a sad story to tell.  My husband's cousin's x-wife had an accident Friday night and was severely injured.  She was coming from a night out and was drinking and wrecked.  She was ejected from the vehicle and suffered severe head trauma.  She was put on life support and was found to be brain dead.  Her parents had to make the decision to pull the plug.  The doctor assured them she had no brain activity and could not breath on her own or anything.  So they unplugged her yesterday.  This young woman was I think if not mistaken 29 years old.  She had 3 children ages 8, 4, and 2.  They have no mother now.  She was so disfigured from the accident that her boyfriend went in ICU to see her and hit the floor as he passed out from the shock of seeing her face.  She never dreamed when she left to go out last Friday night that she wouldn't be returning and she was leaving her kids for the last time to soon find they had no mother.  I had the pleasure of knowing this woman for her brief time here on Earth.  She will be so missed by her children and the rest of her family.  The 8 year old boy is taking it by far the worst because he comprehends what death means and that he won't see his mommy anymore on this Earth.  The 4-year-old just knows mommy is in heaven but can't comprehend that mommy can't come visit her from heaven.  The 2-year-old just doesn't understand at all.  She just misses her mommy.  Brief story about what the 4-year-old said to her mawmaw yesterday:  They were going down the road and she had learned earlier that day her mama was gone to heaven.  She was staring out the window at the sky because she was told that was where mommy was.  She was just desperately hoping for a glimpse of mom I guess.  Then she said mawmaw that's my mom.  And she pointed to the sun.  It was shining really bright inside the car on them.  It was a really sunny day.  Her mawmaw says where baby?  She said do you see the sun mawmaw?  She said yes baby I see it.  She said that's my mommy shining down on me.  She is watching me mawmaw.  This is from a 4-year-old.  Now if that don't break your heart what does?  Pray for these children who have suffered probably the greatest loss they will know.  And please don't drink and drive. 

my girlfriend's husband was put in jail for 5 years because he was a "victim" for receiving child pornography.  Says he opened up an Email and it snowballed from there.

Of course it was all a lie.  He had his own website out of the UK and was filming himself masterbating.  I did some research and it was amazing that almost ALL men that are busted say the same thing --- they were innocent and all they did was open an Email!  Hope he rots in jail.

CJ was playing with a stuffed hedgehog he found at my house.  My niece showed him that it squeaked.  As she continued to squeak it, he started to cry ... and then softly howl.  I had to ask her to stop.

He's 5 years old and looks just like a miniature wolf, but ...

Don't hurt CJ's stuffies. 

I have 2 teenagers and 1 in college.  I get to work in peace most of the time.  The biggest emergency I had this spring was when my daughter drove to school early for band practice and her younger brother, who doesn't drive yet, failed to arrange for alternate transportation and then also missed the bus, so I had to stop to drive him to school.