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He does bring up some good points, but -

Posted By: missy on 2008-01-26
In Reply to: did anybody that saw SiCKO feel - like we are a third world country compared to

He fails to say how all these countries offer the *free* healthcare.  That is because it is not truly a free ride.  Every time they pay $6 or more for a gallon of their heavily taxed gasoline they are paying for it.  I know for a fact the property taxes in both Germany and England are outrageous because I have lived both places.  The British also pay outrageous prices for telephone service, must register each TV they have in their home every year and pay to use it, the list goes on and on.  So, while they walk out of the hospital without handing over any money, they have in fact paid for it in various other ways.  Not quite sure Americans would go for some of this since we are already screaming about $3 for a gallon of gas. 


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Wow....good points actually nm
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All good points!

I am in the state of Louisiana and not sure what the laws are regarding this. Ironicially, the neighbor who committed suicide informed ME a few years earlier that a previous owner of my home did the same thing and the first thing I asked him was if it occurred in the house! He told me it did not, it was at another location and I have to admit I was relieved to hear that.


In any event, they were good neighbors and I feel so bad for his wife who is left picking up all the pieces. 


Good points, and that is the thing. It is not
a fix-all. Without making lifestyle changes, everyone will regain their weight back. My step-mom had the surgery and is over the 100-pound mark for the weight she has lost. She has cut out all breads from her diet, desserts, etc. She has made huge diet changes since, and that is why she is losing the weight and keeping it off. She also consumes a lot of protein. She has done fantastic with it though. My friend's sister had it and is having a lot of complications, but she has not followed the recommendations for after surgery either. Her son had it and has done great and is keeping the weight off.
All good points, good post. (nm)
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points are - it's all about.........sm

  in this country it is all about which politician is sleeping with which drug company, how much $$ transpires (greased palms), and in the end, what with all the drug recalls after extensive studying of all the drugs, recalled or not recalled, our family members being used as guinea pigs. 


You like this system of doing things?  You like the FDA? 


*pppffffftttttttttttt*


 


 


As to your points
By the time of "the incident", drinking 12 beers was going real easy, 18 was average, and 24-30 meant it was the weekend. It was always one of my fears that I would wake up in the morning to find him dead beside me because I'm sure BAL had to be well in excess of .4. I always wondered if that tolerance of alcoholics (he can drink a 6-pack without visible effect to the untrained eye; I can't drink 2) always increased the level necessary to induce coma/respiratory failure.

As to pitying him, when I fell in love him he wasn't as bad as he is now. He drank 1 day a week, and then it was 2, and then it was 4, and then it was 7. Even now, I still love the part of him that's drowned there in the bottom of the Budweiser bottle. And I do pity him; I don't think he's happy. I think he drinks because he's miserable and then he's miserable because he drinks. The 2 months he was sober after the arrest was the longest his 14-year-old son has seen him sober, and the son is starting to show signs of the narcissistic danger-seeking behavior of his father, and I know that is tearing the ex up, although, ironically, he blames it on everything but himself.

As to the subpoena, the DA, at least the last time I talked to him, made it sound like there were no hard feelings if I didn't show up, although apparently without me there is only the report of the arresting officers.

In the state where it happened, punishment is a maximum of 1 year in jail. The ex tried to make me feel guilty about testifying and potentially making him miss a year at this critical phase in his boy's life, but there's a part of me that thinks getting the kid away from his dad and his father's cronies for a year would probably be a gift. I don't know why CPS hasn't stepped in by now anyway, although this is a bit "backwards" of a community.
I think it just said "low points", but

when I baked them yesterday, I ended up with 18 muffins and they were about 2 points each.  I also saw on the same post where you can add unsweetened applesauce and FF egg substitute.  That poster said this adds 0 points, so I guess you just figure out the points for the mix. 


Finally, someone said they baked cookies with just the spice cake mix and the pumpkin. No water.  350 degrees at 10 minutes.  I'm guessing you would be more cookies than muffns this way and lower points, but haven't tried them yet.


What points you are racking up!!
Give from your heart like you are doing. You will have Karma unbelievably so. I have gave over the years and continue to do so, first a friend whose husband died, having a tough time and I gave her $100- went up to my father's home and he turned around and gave me $10,000, bought a coat for a child in my neighborhood who needed 1 on a freezing day, paid $30.00 for that and the next day had unexpected check in mail for $300.00. I give money to animal shelter each and every month for their upkeep and even take my daily papers to the pound because the animals need those. I love being able to give, have done since I was a young child so my mother told me. You are really making points with the good that you do, give from your heart, no matter what you seem to think the response is, your rewards will be there for you in the long run. I never give to get back, never ever, just from my heart. I read stories in the papers or hear on television and will send money to different people I think deserve with never an expected return. Your heart is good!!
Not trying fo get points and people think what they want.....
I told how I work, what I do. I told what I see on these posts. How can that be anything but truth?? If it is perceived to be something other than that, well so be it. Only telling the truth. I think lots of MTs probably see themselves in what I have said and I have stepped on toes.
I see your points and agree that there

is definitely more going on here.  It's very hard to give just 1 answer.  There are so many other factors involved.  As you said, is he just a deadbeat?  Or is he out of work for the first time and is having a hard time dealing with it.  Maybe he kept the $10 because he didn't want to have to ask (or beg) his wife for money later in the week.  Does the wife handle the finances and does she "dole out" the money as she sees fit?  If so, then I don't blame him for keeping the $10.  Or is he constantly out of work, can't hold a job, wants the money for drinking or cards, etc?


Either way, the amount seems very trivial to end a marriage over.  I, too, think there is more going on here and maybe this is just the straw that broke the camel's back.


I have to disagree with some of these points
I do know that my natural gas bill, which is what I would be heating with, was WAY more than my electric bill. So I totally disagree with the statement that gas central heat is cheaper. My last heating bill 3 years ago (which only included gas) was $450 for one month.

What you posted says it uses .12 cph, which would equal approx $90 for 30 days, I could put 5 of them in my home before I reached my last gas bill!

Is this for everyone, no. Should it be used as a constant source of heat, probably not for most households (some single people might get away with it).

Really the only thing I saw in the article you posted against this heater was the cost of the heater. I am willing to pay that because I happen to want something that looks nice. This has a 30-day money back guarantee and a one year warranty.

Where I live anything that you can do to turn the thermostat down, if you use gas, will save you money. I need to heat my house 24/7 for about 7 months out of the year, if I had to pay for natural gas I don't know what I would do.
The others do have valid points, but...sm

things like this happen to me and I am most annoyed about the lack of consideration.  It bothers me to spend time looking for an item to use only to find out it was lent out.  My brother once let his friend use my lawnmower, without telling me.  I ended up borrowing my neighbor's mower because the lawn was getting overgrown.  It took 3 weeks to get mine back.  I think it is reasonable to be asked first, especially if it is something of sentimental value, something that needs extra careful handling, or something that is actually used frequently like kitchen implements/pots/pans...and lawnmowers, of course. : )


I agree with you on some points
Yes- I do believe that person was dead before EMS got there. However, they said that MJ was having trouble breathing right after that injection -- why wait so long to get help? Why not call the EMS asap? I'm not sure that the body is that of MJ or that it is not. He hid from the world so much -- always covering his face. Again -- how would someone know to get that shot of him -- if the identy of the man was kept secret? I'm not saying he is not dead, but on the other hand I'm not 100% sure that he isn't. Wonder if the family is having DNA on the body? There are things that just don't add up, but the he always was "different." Many have said he used body doubles and had an army of wax replicas of himself. Really . . . how hard would it be to fake his own death if he wanted to. If he is really gone, may he rest in peace. He will be missed by his fans.
haha, I agree with you on those points! sm
I can fall asleep with my music in my ears. Only issue I would have is if they talk loud enough to be over the music, or if a movie is playing during the long flights and you can't hear the movie because they are talking so loud, otherwise I don't see it being a big deal. What I don't get, though, is they always made it sound like it interferes with the radio controls or something to have wireless laptops on or cell phones. Guess that was just another story they tell to get you to do what they want, lol.
If you do WW, go to www.dwlz.com - all the points are there for food and restaurants.
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You can google weight watcher points
and get them over internet at sites other than weight watchers. If you have the other material, just do it that way. That is what I am doing.
I really see and feel strongly about both points of view here. sm
I will say I am a Catholic, and a divorced one. I am not practicing at this point, but I am not an unbeliever...exactly. I consider myself a gnostic Catholic, and that is a story for another day.

The so-called Christian morals we have in this country are SELF-IMPOSED. They are with all religions. I consider myself a Christian, so I don't believe in sin because well, Christ died on the cross for the forgiveness of sin...even BEFORE we think about sinning. So, some of this I don't buy into.

If anyone thinks they have the slightest idea of what God wants them to do, they need therapy! WHY would any of us think we know the mind of the Divine??? I don't care how religious you are, YOU DO NOT KNOW THE MIND OF GOD.

I was in an extremely abusive marriage. He abused me, the kids, our minds, our bodies, our hearts, our souls. I was married in the Catholic church and I am still married in the church, having a divorce without an annulment. I made the commitment to keep only to this one man and that I have done. I live celibate for a number of reasons and my spoken commitment in the Catholic church is one of them.

Their respective marriages are over and not because of each other. They are free to be together if they choose to do so. Being arrogant enough to think he knows what God would want, yes he needs therapy! I think he is a bad bet for her because he will always come right back to what God would want, has no ability to exercise the Free Will God gave him, can't think for himself and would be pretty useless as a husband. This may, in fact, be what drove his wife to kick him out! Milquetoast!
I get your point, but you lost points due to perception of slamming
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How About Those BEAUTIFUL CARDINALS, up by 3 points, I adore Kurt Warner!!!! happy! ,,,,,nm
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I'd bring it up with him...
That was pretty rude of the BF.
Bring someone with you
I heard on the radio the other day that a man advertised a room on craigslist, then when the woman showed up to look, he assaulted her; threw her down on a bed & tried to attack her.

Bring someone with you. Finding a room on craigslist can be a great thing, or it can be a ruse for lowlifes.

If it turns out to be legitimate, get very clear ahead of time on what they expect of you in exchange for rent & that they know you will be working.


to each his/her own - I couldn't bring myself

of who made the movie and the director/producer's family history...........


to each her/his own..................


different strokes for different folks, and so on and so on and dooby dooby doo bah.......(lyrics from Sly and The Family Stone)


Bring the dog to my house
I would go get the dog and bring the dog to my house and take care of it. 
so, did you bring the dog to your yard?
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I own it on DVD, but can't bring myself to actually watch it!
It seems way too sad! My husband will never watch it with me because it's a "chick flick." LOL!
you bring up my dilemna
I notice that you say you went to your grandparents as a child but now you expect your children's grandparents to come to you.  I am soon to be a grandmother - DD and SIL make 200,000.00 a year and work only 40 hours weeks. I am struggling with 2 jobs - 60 hours a week, no days off, to make ends meet (was divorced and their father pretty much left me to pay for everything - now credit cards have been paid with my retirement and rolled into house payment).   We went to my grandparents and I took my children to their grandparents for most visits, why now is it my responsibility to get to them?  Do you spent at least equal time going to the grandparents' houses?  What changed?
How did it turn out, what did you bring???
Love to know!
I would bring mom home
Sounds like it is time to bring her closer to you.
Maybe bring him to your home, until you can get those slackers out of there.
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You could even bring back the Macarena! :) nm
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in my opinion, if you don't want to discuss it here, why did you bring it here?--sm
You write a lengthy post and then dismiss any response with *I don't want to discuss it here.* You are not looking for help then. sorry. JMO
Do you mean cut flowers to bring inside,
or do you want an inside plant that blooms?

I am an outside gardener myself. If it's outside flowers you are interested, where do you live or what is your zone?
They should bring the dog in and tie the dog-hitting kids.....
:(
Maybe you could just bring up casually in conversation

how much you enjoy the squirrels, and how much it pains you to see when one has been run over. Don't mention the incident at all, just talk in general about squirrels. Even if she views squirrels as pests, hopefully your talking to her will make her more aware of them when she is driving.


I love squirrels, too, and fortunately I have never hit one, but I tell you, more than once I have nearly had a wreck trying NOT to hit one. They are tricky little devils!


Ah...our furbabies. They bring such joy and sadness.
I have been where you are and my thoughts are with you.  Mine died 4 years ago and I still miss him every day even though I have since adopted 2 more.  Each one is special and unique.  You are doing a good job...hang in there.
Anything cherry or lemon! Bring it on!
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Nope, the shopping can bring you down if (sm)
you go to the wrong place and the people are grumpy.

I normally kind of like to see the people out and feel like I'm participating in something big, I don't get married to the idea of getting a lot of stuff, and today I was glad I didn't, because I got up and went to Kohl's (5 mins from my house) to get an item I saw in the flyer and couldn't find it! Searched all over the store. Then I realized the checkout lines were by this time all the way to the back of the store and I thought, eh, heck with it, and went back home!

I did try to smile at the other folks I saw, and I tried to think of just being out in the nice clear cold morning for a change as I'm not typically a willing early riser. Got to see the morning star and all that.

Hope you're able to find your happy place today!
Nothing like money to bring out the love, huh?
I'm about to file an adoption petition for my granddaughter. My daughter is willing to consent to the adoption, but we have no idea (for over 2 years) where the dud is. We have to do all this stuff to make sure the dud has been notified before we terminate his rights on her (for abandonment), but my lawyer made a point. Sometimes a dud will find out someone came into money and wants to be a father for the first time.

I feel for your friend and hope she keeps a flame thrower loaded and ready for this jerk and that family. She may end up needing to use some of that money on a lawyer to keep the guy away. She will be in my thoughts.
DRAT,,,, I can bring up the U tubes but
I can't get them to play.
Wonder what's wrong. Guess I have to check it out further but really would enjoy seeing in. I love your description.
Bring him in. My BIL had this a few weeks back...

went in, had cath done and had two 70-75% stenosed arteries, CHF, 10% function and may need a transplant. They stabilized him with meds and he is at home with a cardiac vest. He has not felt well for the past year, but kept putting the doctor visit off. Of course, they told him that had he come in sooner it wouldn't be this bad. Good luck.


funny you should bring up warts,
I remember my mother's great-aunt putting an aspirin an a band-aid on one I had on the side of my thumb before I went to bed and the next day when I awoke, it was gone. I have always been suspicious though because the band-aid was gone, too! I started this thread because we are losing all that info and we may actually need it some day, that is why I wanted what works on here. Thanks everybody who contributed. L
Bring ads from other stores. Most pricematch..sm.

So you don't have to worry about trying to get to the other stores before the sale item is gone, bring the ads from the other stores with you. Most store will match the price of other stores if you bring in the ad!! Thus eliminating running all over town in a mad rush.  All you have to do is get to the "sale item" at that store first before it's gone, then you can relax while getting the stuff from the other ads because there'll be plenty of stock cuz it's not on sale there.  It makes it sooo much easier and a lot less stressful.  I hope I worded that so it makes sense. I'm tired.


Or, get together the day before with a few other people who are going. Each of you is designated a different store and picks up what the others want at their designated store.  Then meet for breakfast afterwards to exchange the purchases as well as horror/humor stories from the "adventures." Thus, again, eliminating the "rushing" from one place to another. 


I think I'll stay in and shop online this year.  I heard you can do that for the black friday sales and some store will even let you buy online and pick up at the store. (later, after the rush and madness is over!)  


For the "virgin" poster, beware, some people can be downright mean, nasty, rude and even violent that morning.  Seriously.  Oh, and NEVER leave your cart unattended if you were lucky enough to get one of the "limted amounts per store" items.  People will literally take them right out of your cart if you're not watching. Keep your stuff buried beneath your coat at the bottom of the cart and NEVER let your cart leave your side.  And keep your purse in sight at all times.  If you bring a purse, have it hang in front of you and not on your side.  I like to just keep my money and/or credit card tucked snugly in my front pocket of my jeans and not even bother with a purse.


Wow does that bring back memories
Homemade chicken soup, sourdough bread, wine, and some German pastry thing for dessert (we lived in Germany).

So I can remember 27 years ago, but darn if I can't remember what we had last week. :-)
Signing in, yes, but have to bring a form
filled out and signed by the other school's principal? That's a little over the top. If it's about permission, they should ask the parents, not the other school anyway. So strange...
Bring something in a crock pot that you can plug in at the office & set on low.

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If she really loved him, she would bring church to him. She wouldn't go if sm
he didn't want her to go and would respect him. That is just my opinion.
I don't bring my dog anywhere around food, unless it's nice weather and

the tables and chairs.  It is allowed where I live.  I have never seen anyone bring their dog into the grocery store unless it is an assist dog,  I do bring my dog in her stroller into the mall and I have yet to have gotten kicked out over it.  Children LOVE to look at my dog in the stroller. It is the type of stroller that has a screen on it so children can look and parents are not fearful that my dog would bite.  My dog doesn't bite but it's an added precaution. 


In comparison, my dog is friendly, is not a yapper, is well groomed, and potty trained.  I have seen many, many children who are ill behaved, running around uncontrollably and I've several times passed by babies in strollers who smell like their diaper hasn't been changed in a week. 


To the person who supposedly has the severe allergy, I say this...If you have such a severe allergy to dogs, then you most likely have severe allergies to a bunch of other stuff, too, and like the other poster said, you could just as easily be allergic to passing by the perfume counter as you would my 4 lb. chihuahua.


Lastly, to the OP, you need a lesson in manners. Even if you don't agree with the dog being in the store, you shouldn't have gotten ugly with the owner.  She was minding her business, why didn't you just mind yours?


 


Comfortable shoes! Bring a few different pairs :)
As far as clothing, anything goes!
If you think it will bring you peace of mind and you're
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And bring lots of candy gelt.
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You're talking about 2 different posts. Please don't bring that
I don't care which side you're on. I'm just getting tired of the boards all being covered with religion. Take it to the Faith board please.