Good for Kate! Who needs a cheating man.
Posted By: nm on 2009-06-23
In Reply to: Jon and Kate file divorce papers - Sara
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First of all, Jon and Kate did not have
octuplets. They had 2 girls previously (I believe through fertility treatments) and then went on to have another fertility treatment, this time ending up with sextuplets.
Secondly, they had the emotional and financial support to have these children. I do not believe the taxpayers ever had to support their children. Yes, I do believe they are using their children for financial gain now, but I don't believe they were forced to do so in order to care/provide for them.
The main difference I see is that octomom already had 6 children that she couldn't care for and then went on to bring 8 more into it.
Jon & Kate
I thought Kate seemed to be hinting at a specific problem that had been going on for a long time, but I don't think it is other women. I think Jon might have a drinking problem. I noticed that since they been being interviewed on the couch separately, his speech is slurred and he seems very lethargic. Or maybe it is just severe depression because he never smiles anymore. He used to be so light-hearted, even when Kate picked on him.
Jon and Kate show
I watch all the time. I definitely think they will divorce, but I hope not. Those kids are the cutest and I have followed them for years. I think they actually probably split months ago too as one of the little girls said she missed her dad. On earlier shows Kate was very obvious the one that ruled in the family, but with that many kids a person would have to organized to the hilt. Money has broken the family apart and one could tell from last season he did not want it to go on. I can see both sides. There is no way that either one of them would make the money doing what they did in the past. I do hope they can work things out, but I am so skeptical about them staying together. They did not hardly look at each other on the season opener last night and I cannot believe he did not meet them at Party City. Lots of this stuff is staged too, but it was very obvious he was probably not lilving at home anymore. Most of the other couples that have done Reality Shows have divorcing. I hope they work it out, but really doubt it. We all dream of lots of money like they are most likely getting, but they have basically become prisoners in their own home too. Its takes two to work it out and I am not so sure they can do it. It might just be too late. Everyone deserves a second change and we are not in their shoes, but if they did not do the show anymore they might make it work. Good luck and God prayers that it will work out for everyone.
Jon and Kate question. SM
Please don't bash me. Just sitting here typing and strange question enters my head. I don't watch this show, but all the gossip about them makes me wonder, again, please don't bash me, did Kate have all those children just so she could have her own reality show? I mean, who in their right mind has 6 children? At one time? I suppose all the stuff on Octomom got me wondering.
I'll go back to work now. 
Don't forget that Kate has also
been accused of cheating with her bodyguard. At least Jon is man enough to acknowledge that he made mistakes in their marriage which is something Kate did not do until last night with her fake tears. She also cheated on the boyfriend before Jon.
I quit watching the show after she insisted that she never had any help with the kids, prepared all meals, rarely took vacations as it was not in their budget and could not afford to and overall, very frugal. It came out that she had nannies, a personal chef, all vacations were paid for, cosmetic work paid for, 75,000 an episode, 3,000 speaking fee - seems she lies about a lot of things so why not cheating?
The way she made a fool of Jon was an outrage with her constant yelling and demaning way.
Should they divorce, I hope Jon gets full custody. Those kids are nothing but a meal ticket to her. She has exploited them from day one. I also heard that she put down another famly that had sextuplets - guess she is getting nervous but that family said they would never put their children in front of the camera.
I think the kids would have a stable life with Jon.
Anyone watch Jon & Kate last night?
It seems to be me that Kate is willing to give up her marriage for this new quasi-celebrity life style. She kept saying over and over how everything she is doing is for her kids, but I really don't think so. She's enjoying herself. Jon wants to go back to his old life, said this isn't what he signed up for. It's all very sad.
Personally I like Kayla, Kate, and Katherine - nm
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Jon and Kate file divorce papers
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Get to Little Italy...bought 2 Coach handbags and 1 Kate Spade bag..
that just happened to *fall off a truck* for $125. Brought them both to Nordstrom, clerk could not tell the difference!
Thanks everyone.....No he is not cheating
Last time he said he was "in love" with someone else, but she had her own family and stayed comitted to it, and he came back to me and has had nothing to do with her since. There is no one else this time, I am sure of that. I am almost willing to pretend that conversation never took place and if he is willing to stay with me for the kids, then that should be enough. But I don't want him unhappy, I still love him, and I suppose I deserve to be with someone I love too, but my kids and their happiness come first and foremost, before mine. I could be happy with him as long as he was content. I don't want him to stay though if he is just going to be an angry, unhappy person. I have thought of marriage counselling, he might be willing to try it. I am willing to try anything at this point.
Those cheating men
Over the last couple of weeks and especially in the last week 2 different families that have been much in the news, 1 family on a TV program and another family in government. Both husbands have been seen, caught, accused of having a child outside his marriage, another husband supposedly was going with a young teacher. Both of these men's spouses have taken their husband's sides, defending them, maybe even looking inward and seeing if possibly something the woman did was wrong. How would you react if your husband or significant other. Would you defend, get mad, get even or what?
Cheating men
Dateline tonight had a VERY interesting show on regarding this subject and people said as well it could be genetic - hmmmmm
Actually when my dad was cheating on my mom...sm
He has always left his cell phone laying around when home. Then she noticed he started keeping it in his pocket at all times. He even took it to the bathroom to get a shower. Or she actually found it hidden under a pile of dirty clothes one time when he was in the shower. He didn't want her to pick it up and see the calls on there.
What makes you think he's cheating on you?
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Cheating spouses
I look at it this way, when you cheat on your spouse in the eyes of the Lord your marriage is dissolved anyhow. If my spouse ever cheated on me, I would definitely not stick it out for companionship or otherwise. It would just not be worth it to me because there would be massive trust issues from that point on. Just not worth it. For goodness sake, I would buy a dog before I would stay in a loveless marriage always wondering if my spouse was getting ready to cheat again!
Kind of cheating
At work our user names are the first four letters of our last name and the first two of our first name. Mine came out Horski which I kind of liked and on the boards, no one knows my gender right away too. I'm female by the way! You trying to pick something?
Cheating Spouse?
Have you ever caught your spouse cheating? If so, how did you catch him/her?
cheating spouse
I worked day shift and he worked 3-11 so for a few years we would hardly see each other at all. First, let me say that my husband is kind of messy. I would notice that when I came home from work, my home was in the same order that I left it in the morning. Even the curtains had not been opened yet. There were no dirty dishes. There was no sign anybody had been home all day. I would ask and he would always have an excuse..went to play golf before work, went to a ball game, had lunch with the guys, etc.
Then a woman started calling the house in the evening asking for my husband. I would say he was at work, ask if I could take a message and she would say no and hang up. She would call about 3 to 4 evenings a week. I asked my husband who she was and he would say he didn't know.
Then, HER husband called and left a message on our machine one day while we were out. He didn't say any names, just said stay away from my wife or I'm going to come over and beat your a$$. I asked who was that and my husband said he didn't know.
This all happened over about 4 months when he was offered a transfer with work out of state and we took it. He never admitted having an affair but I know he did. That was 16 years ago. We are still together and before everyone flames me, I will tell you that the man has paid dearly for that little fling. We've never discussed it because how can you discuss something he won't admit to? He didn't leave the house for years without taking 1 or all the kids with him, even to the grocery store or the post office. He never got to do anything he wanted to do, no more boys night out, no more golf weekends, etc. It got to the point where I was feeling sorry for him but he never said a word.
Now that we're in our 50s, I wish someone would take him so he'd leave me alone!
hubby cheating
I had a friend years ago who hid in the back of her hub's camper-cover pickup when she suspected he was going to see the other woman one night. He had a little *bed* in truck. She caught them and filed for divorce, later remarried and happy as a lark for 30 years now.
So corporate cheating is fine
You said - However, it does NOT justify lying, cheating, stealing insurance dollars and benefits just because you don't like it.
What do you call it when someone pays their premiums for years, they are told they are covered, then the insurance company decides they don't have to pay? Sounds like what you just described above. But it happens every day, and its supposedly OK, because its business, I used to do medical billing, outrageous how many claims were denied because the ordering physician didn't do a precert, the insurance company decided it was unneccessary, or some other little loophole. The providers didn't get paid, the patient ended up in collections,,,and IMO the patient was lied to, stolen from, and cheated out of his insurance dollars and benefits.
BTW, I do make my own money. I'm just not too pleased at handing large chunks of it to an insurance company, knowing they will diligently seek reasons to deny a claim, even if I play by all their ever changing rules and memorize my policy. And that includes the entire insurance industry, be it medical, LTD, life, auto, or homeowners insurance.
Cheating spouse/boyfriend, etc.
Many years ago I was married to a cheating spouse. I was pregnant with our second child when he took it upon himself to cheat with an underage girl in the back of our brand new station wagon. Well, I learned about this when a paternity suit came up with his name on it. Apparently he was so dumb that he did not know the girl had a boyfriend and being the sucker that he was he did not know that they would pin the paternity on him, and get money from him. Too bad it wasn't in this day and time because he would have been in jail because she was only 17, and he was in his 30s. This was only 1 in a string of women that I found out after the fact, and even contracted an STD when I was pregnant!! I also suffered spousal abuse, and have the scars to prove it. After 5 years of this I got out,and the only reason I stayed was for the children, but that was a huge mistake on my part. Now, whenever, I hear or see this on a program it makes me furious that these men think this behavior is okay. It is never okay and leaves many people, including children, to suffer much heartache.
I understand the problem with cheating by using phones
and my children do carry the cells to school but keep them turned off and in their locker....which kinda defeats the purpose of being able to call in an emergency but I do know the problem it can become. The kids are also not supposed to have them on field trips that are just for the day (they are allowed to take them on overnight trips). Well, my son was on a high school field trip to VA Tech on Apr. 16. If hadn't had a teacher that allowed them (just don't abuse them) we would not have known for hours that he was okay. I went to the middle school that very afternoon and spoke to the principal about my DD taking her phone on a field trip and the principal said that it would be okay. That's good, cuz she was taking it no matter what.
If I knew there was a history of cheating on former wives,
then my opinion would be different. I think that once cheating occurs, it is more likely to be repeated in future relationships. Not saying that this is your case, but it would worry me.
My rant: I agree cheating on one's spouse is never SM
acceptable. The one thing that REALLY bothers me, is that men claim that they have to cheat, since sex with their wives is no longer exciting and that their wife won't do what paid companions will and my thought is always the same "Did you ASK her?". If they ask nicely, I'm sure loving wives would be more than willing to comply. Within reason, of course.
How far would you go (or would you) to find out if your husband/lover was cheating?
I am married now and never even think of his cheating or even worry about it, just do not have a feeling like that but in the past married to a real dog. I then checked his pockets, his shirt collars (for lipstick, makeup), phone calls and on and on. How far would you go and what have you found?
Strange question. I punched my ex when I found out what a cheating SOB he was. SM
I personally haven't been punched in the face since I was 20ish and I'd like to keep it that way. 
Anyone have any good holiday dessert recipes? Looking for something good to take to a party. nm
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What a good role model you are for good holiday spirit...wow nm
Awesome! Good service is good news.
nm
glad to see you look at it this way! Really good idea! Have a good season! nm
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Good Fences make good neighbors
You can get premade cedar fencing that comes in sections. You dig a post hole at the appropriate distance and fill with a bag of quick-crete. Alternatively, you could buy a used fence from a place that hauls away.
You could also get an electric fence, just hook to a battery and run the cord (for retraining purposes) it would not hurt your dogs.
I feel your pain. Roll up your sleeves and pray for some digging weather!
Hey hon, you can have one. There are tons of good ones out there looking for a good woman. They ain&
doorstep. Seek and you shall find. So, if you 'really' wanted one, me thinks you would have one...
All good points, good post. (nm)
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a good movie with a good lesson
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Good for you! Keep up the good work!
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Yes there are some that are good. This wasn't about one that was good.
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R-I-D-D-A-N-C-E. Good riddance. Not good riddens. Riddens is not even a word.
my pet peeve
I would make a good Beth with wig on. Not sure DH would make a good Dog.
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Here's a good one.....
She is sexually inactive since being widowed by choice. 
Good for you!
:-)
Good for you
Sounds like she has a good home. It just may take her time and I am sure professional help will help. We need to learn not to let them train us. I have two cats and my dog and I am sure I spoil them according to most people but right now they are my family. I am sure Tasha will not be around much longer and don't think I will replace her for a while. Would be nice to be able to come and go for a while and not worry about someone taking care of the dog. Also it is a little more work training a puppy down here on the water in a floating home. So it will be me and my cats for a while. I am also not sure I have the energy for a puppy. But it sounds like you have sure provided a good home for Miss Lilly.
Patti
good for you--sm
Puppies have a way of healing our hearts! We won't forget, but they fill that empty gap..for the other remaining pets, as well. They get lonesome too after having had a companion for a period of time. Just give them time to become friends. I am happy for you!
as an IC you need to get a GOOD CPA....
I truly do not think you can do this yourself, unless you are so business-books acclimated and always on top of things.....
I've been an IC for 10 years and an MT for nearly 30, and as an IC I always get my things CPA-ready for the CPA (receipts/bills/statements, and I write everything down once I get the receipts/bills in good order in the late winter/early spring, by March, and so I go to him with all the categories and the figures and not the receipts/other garbage). You get a percentage off for your office, your electric, et cetera. The CPA's know all the in's and out's of this and are quite helpful and worth every dime, in my mind. I used to pay quarterly taxes (about $500-750) but now I choose to pay yearly, one lump payment by April 15th and I'm all very legal!!
Best of luck! 
It looks good!
And shouldn't that be rheumatiz? :-)
Good for you and your Dr..sm
That is great to hear. Our GYN office was out of the vaccine at the time of our visit, so they must either pushing it hard, or getting a lot of requests for it. I had seriously considered having my daughter get the vaccine, but after I have had a chance to think about it, I'm having second thoughts. I don't want this generation of teenage girls to be guinea pigs for something that may have harmful effects later on. And the government making it mandatory? Let's hope not.
some good, some bad
but don't you want your kids to have a better and easier life?
That's a good one!
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not good
according to about-to-graduate as vet daughter. As certain nutrients that the one animal NEEDS, is not in the other's food. I can't remember all of what she said, but know it can lead to deficiencies.
Good for you!
Glad to hear things went so well, and I'm sure your mind will rest easier now too.
LOL! Good one... : )
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Good for you.....
 So excited to read that. I would swear that is the best "diet" so to speak. Great news - keep up the good work! 
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